RE: [EXTENSIONS][RELEASE] (was RE: Calling all volunteers: It is time to test)

2012-03-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I recall the discussion about the BerkeleyDB. However, the dots with respect to the current state and consequences for users were not connected for me until I saw Jürgen Schmidt's reply today concerning the experience of Larry Gusaas. My creation of this derivative thread was immediate. It

RE: [EXTENSIONS][RELEASE] (was RE: Calling all volunteers: It is time to test)

2012-03-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I recall the discussion about the BerkeleyDB. However, the dots with respect to the current state and consequences for users were not connected for me until I saw Jürgen Schmidt's reply today concerning the experience of Larry Gusaas. My

Signing DLLs EXEs and Copyright Notices (was RE: Symantec WS.Reputation.1 Errors: What we can do)

2012-03-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: Symantec WS.Reputation.1 Errors: What we can do On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Out of curiosity I just did another download of the OOo-dev 3.4 Windows MSI r1293550 to see if the popularity contest had been won yet. Not yet

RE: Signing DLLs EXEs and Copyright Notices (was RE: Symantec WS.Reputation.1 Errors: What we can do)

2012-03-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 12:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Signing DLLs EXEs and Copyright Notices (was RE: Symantec WS.Reputation.1 Errors: What we can do) On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org

RE: Signing DLLs EXEs and Copyright Notices (was RE: Symantec WS.Reputation.1 Errors: What we can do)

2012-03-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 14:19 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Signing DLLs EXEs and Copyright Notices (was RE: Symantec WS.Reputation.1 Errors: What we can do) On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Just to be clear, further

RE: [TEST] procedures for no overwrites of existing OOo 3.3?

2012-03-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
First, the safest way to avoid those problems on Windows is to install the OOo-dev 3.4 developer builds. These do not overload on existing OpenOffice.org installations. If the system integration builds are used, they identify themselves as OOo 3.4 and this will indeed cause collisions. They

RE: Nominate release blocker: 118999 - Leap year not correctly calculated

2012-03-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The reported bug is about a date conversion error on loading of a stored ODP file. It appears from the description that the conversion fails and a serial-date number of 0 results. If it can be confirmed that the error is localized to that case, the fix has to be benign. This would be

New Committer: Regina Henschel

2012-03-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OOo PPMC announces the addition of committer and PPMC member Regina Henschel, regina@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo. Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

RE: Nominate release blocker: 118999 - Leap year not correctly calculated

2012-03-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 14:12 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Nominate release blocker: 118999 - Leap year not correctly calculated On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: The reported

RE: Nominate release blocker: 118999 - Leap year not correctly calculated

2012-03-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
No, this is definitely not the Excel leap-year bug. Compensation for the [Visicalc?]/Lotus/Excel Leap-Year bug is what has the default OO.o Calc serial-day for 1899-12-30 be 0 rather than have 1899-12-31 be serial-day 0 as it is in Excel. This way, all dates starting with March 1, 1900 have

RE: Nominate release blocker: 118999 - Leap year not correctly calculated

2012-03-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 17:25 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Nominate release blocker: 118999 - Leap year not correctly calculated On 03/03/12 17:34, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Amen on understanding the scope of the bug!! As promised, I built a smoke-test

RE: [RELEASE] Bug 118037 - oo should warn opening/saving libreoffice files

2012-03-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I agree with Oliver that it is INVALID. This means using metadata in valid ODF files as a way of discriminating against the producer. That sucks. The generator marker is explicitly not for this purpose. How unsupported features are dealt with when opening such a file is a different matter

RE: Test results: AOO run on Windows 8

2012-03-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I can also confirm that the OOO-dev 3.4 x86_install_en-US r1293550 downloaded 2012-02-28 installs perfectly on a fresh Windows 8 Consumer Preview (64 bit) running under VirtualBox 4.1.8 on Windows 7 (64 bit). The registration of start-menu entries is automatically turned into tiles on the

RE: Symantec WS.Reputation.1 Errors: What we can do

2012-03-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The web-based downloader in Internet Explorer 9 also warns about the .exe files (not the tar.gz or Zip ones). The message is clearly a no-reputation-yet warning. This is an on-line check. When the file is known to be regularly downloaded, the report will change automatically. I have

RE: Test results: AOO run on Windows 8

2012-03-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:12 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Test results: AOO run on Windows 8 I can also confirm that the OOO-dev 3.4 x86_install_en-US r1293550 downloaded 2012-02-28 installs

RE: Symantec WS.Reputation.1 Errors: What we can do

2012-03-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
that is downloaded. (It appears that LibreOffice has changed that.) It strikes me that using external digest values (md5 and sh1 digests) on the download requires a super-user skill set and should not be the only thing relied upon for project binary releases. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton

RE: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community (Draft) Public Statement on Email Forwarding

2012-02-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't want to touch the draft. I have but one suggestion: Move the most important and actionable information to the very top. That is, background and related elaboration should follow for the curious. I think this is also important for non-native-English recipients who attempt to figure

[DISCUSS] Hagar Delest as Committer and PPMC Member

2012-02-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
All right, let's get specific: I propose that Hagar Delest be invited to become a Committer and PPMC Member. As soon after midnight Thursday, 2012-02-23T24:00Z that this discussion quiets, I will review the discussion and determine whether there is sufficient consensus to undertake a [VOTE].

RE: [DISCUSS] Hagar Delest as Committer and PPMC Member

2012-02-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
of the PPMC to conduct all personnel matters privately and in confidence. I screwed up. The offending message cannot be removed. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 15:46 To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator

RE: LinuxFest Northwest 2012

2012-02-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
This event is in Bellingham, Washington, on April 28-29. Bellingham is between Seattle, Washington US, and Vancouver, British Columbia Canada on US Interstate I-5. I expect to be around at that time though I am probably not a good candidate for a LinuxFest. I believe there are a few others

RE: my build breaks in libxslt

2012-02-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Last week I received the MSDN Membership offer for Apache Committers. It is an MSDN Ultimate, which is surprising and far more than I can use. The current interest on MSDN is in Visual Studio 2010 and the 2011 upgrades for Azure, WindowsPhone, etc. But older versions can be downloaded.

RE: Integration of my chart features

2012-02-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
*, On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: If Regina were the LO committer or the creator of the patches that were committed, She is. author Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de 2011-06-06 17:31:56 (GMT) committerFridrich Štrba

RE: Logo request for website listing money saving software links

2012-02-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 - Dennis (It reminded me that there were different rules for the best viewed using , download it now buttons and that had me smile. I am not suggesting any sort of parity here.) -Original Message- From: Andrew Rist [mailto:andrew.r...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, February

RE: Proposal for AOO test tool

2012-02-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Ji Yan, I don't think the situation is that bad: Progression through an instance of a test can be handled by comments and managing the state of the bugzilla issue. That may be too crude, and it doesn't deal with the need to automatically populate a set of open tests for a new release. Some

RE: Integration of my chart features

2012-02-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: Integration of my chart features On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: If Regina has the right to submit the patches anywhere of her choosing, it seems to me that her submitting them here is automatically covered

RE: License name

2012-02-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Not to muddy the waters, but I see ALv2 a lot and I tend to use it myself after seeing it so often. If apache-2.0 fits and it is the designation used by the Open Source Initiative, I would use that, since it is from an authoritative registry for open-source licenses,

RE: Committers and Alias.txt

2012-02-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Rob, I haven't added any alias to try that, but I bet it is updated automatically in its new location. (The old location of Alias.txt is now a one-liner that directs users to a new location in id.apache.org.) I also notice an improvement in the updating of Alias.txt by folks changing the

API Docs Versioning (was RE: [PATCH] fieldmaster)

2012-02-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
reference These section gets always updated after a new release. It's the same documentation that is also part of the SDK I hope that make it a little bit more clear Juergen Regards, Dave On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I am not clear what is what would

Committers and Alias.txt

2012-02-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There is a committer-community maintained file called Alias.txt. This is a private file that requires logon by a committer's SVN credentials to accessed. The file was recently moved to https://id.apache.org/info/MailAlias.txt. This file is where a committer can list all e-mail addresses

RE: [WWW] Feedback/contact us about the website link needed...

2012-02-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I agree with Kay that one reason someone may want to contact us is because there is a problem with the web site itself. I also think that going directly to the mailing list page is perhaps too abrupt. Some free analysis from the top of orcmid's head: For issues about the site(s) itself, I

RE: Committers and Alias.txt

2012-02-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, February 10, 2012 12:51 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Committers and Alias.txt On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: There is a committer-community maintained file called Alias.txt. This is a private file that requires logon by a committer's SVN

RE: ANONYMOUS CMS ACCESS (was Re: Bad Link on OOO API Web Page)

2012-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I finally nerved-up to figure out how to make the bookmarklet work in IE 9. It took a little effort, but I managed it. It is an interesting way to tell that a web page was published via the CMS, or not. Having looked around a little, I can understand why there are not many folks who have the

RE: [PATCH] fieldmaster

2012-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am not clear what is what would be called the maintainable source in the case of the ooo-site. It is useful to know that some of the pages are generated automatically as byproducts of other processes (such as an IDL processor/generator) and are not the maintainable source. I wonder if there

RE: [PATCH] fieldmaster

2012-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
illumination for you? AFAIK - api is a special case and was discussed in the past. I'll find the thread if needed. Regards, Dave On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I am not clear what is what would be called the maintainable source in the case of the ooo-site

RE: Proposal: The ODF Commons

2012-02-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Louis, Are you suggesting that extensions, the format of .oxt files, and the means by which extensions can integrate into operation of an ODF processor should be the subject of the ODF specification or some other interoperability agreement? At the moment it is all OpenOffice.org-specific under

RE: 2012-02-01 PPMC Status: End of Initial Committer Establishment

2012-02-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: 2012-02-01 PPMC Status: End of Initial Committer Establishment On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: As of the end of day, 2012-01-31, the Apache OpenOffice podling has 85 committers, with 67 on the PPMC. Since the previous, 2011-11-17, report

2012-02-01 PPMC Status: End of Initial Committer Establishment

2012-02-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
authz - awaiting completion of authorizations 17 PPMC? - eligible for serving on PPMC 80 complete 25 other - special status - declined, retired, etc. 123 TOTAL -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 21:00 To: ooo-dev

RE: admin permissions on old OOo

2012-01-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For any situations of this kind, it is always appropriate to direct folks to ooo-private @incubator.apache.org when someone has a request for which they want discrete resolution. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Florian Effenberger [mailto:flo...@documentfoundation.org] Sent:

RE: [CODE]: Registration... menu entry in the Help menu

2012-01-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If the welcome document is stored locally in the installation locally, having it as an ODT might work. It does mean that translations will be required. Opening of a web page has the advantage of being able to adapt to browser language settings on a server and also being able to update the

RE: [CODE]: Registration... menu entry in the Help menu

2012-01-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: [CODE]: Registration... menu entry in the Help menu Hi, all! Comments in-line. On 1/28/2012 14:23, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: If the welcome document is stored locally in the installation locally, having it as an ODT might work. It does mean that translations will be required

RE: [PROPOSAL] Bugzilla Cleanup

2012-01-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on Regina's comments in general. I think that the default owner name should be unassigned. That works fine in other issue-management systems. The question on what requires committer karma is one that will require more consideration. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Regina

RE: Double dictionaries for languages

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Can you provide a link to António's site please. If not, can you describe whether both spellers can be installed at the same time, and how they are distinguished? (What names are used for them.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Marco A.G.Pinto [mailto:marcoagpi...@mail.telepac.pt]

RE: Double dictionaries for languages

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
01:55, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: If they've registered a separate language code for one or the other, that should be the answer. Also, is the agreement just with respect to pt-PT or does it apply to pt-BR, etc.? Both dictionaries could be added to the same OXT, just

RE: Conflit Open Office / Smart Notebook

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Is this the SMART Notebook that is being talked about? http://smarttech.com/us/Support/Browse+Support/Download+Software (English) http://smarttech.com/Home%20Page/Solutions/Education%20Solutions/Content%20and%20Resources (French - Canadian) - Dennis -Original Message- From: eric b

RE: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Don, What's your understanding of the connection between open-source encryption algorithms and SOPA/PIPA? Where is there more information available? Are you talking about the encryption methods themselves or the *use* of encryption in support of piracy. Those are different. With regard to

RE: Has docs converter been created?

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It's not clear to me that the DOCX files are broken. It is that import into OOo and LO is unsuccessful. (People will say that is because DOCX is not OOXML but I've never seen actual evidence for that, simply the claim as a weak justification for why DOC should be used instead. There's no

RE: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
11:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner Including the list this time. Watch those reply-tos, Dennis...:) On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Don, What's your understanding of the connection

RE: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
implementers of the encryption provisions be worried? Probably not. [It may still be very sloppy law and any self-deputizing of vigilante enforcers is a terrible notion.] - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 18

RE: Has docs converter been created?

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: Has docs converter been created? On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: It's not clear to me that the DOCX files are broken. It is that import into OOo and LO is unsuccessful. (People will say

RE: Double dictionaries for languages

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thank you. I found out what I needed to know by downloading both pt-PT and pt-PT (pre-ao) versions. -Original Message- From: Marco A.G.Pinto [mailto:marcoagpi...@mail.telepac.pt] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 16:45 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Double dictionaries

RE: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

2012-01-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages Hi Dennis, On 17.01.2012 02:14, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: If you look at the localization languages that are on the current list for built-by-AOO packages as part of a release

RE: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

2012-01-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[mailto:a...@a-w-f.de] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 04:18 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages Hi Dennis, On 17.01.2012 02:14, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: If you look at the localization languages

RE: Double dictionaries for languages

2012-01-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If they've registered a separate language code for one or the other, that should be the answer. Also, is the agreement just with respect to pt-PT or does it apply to pt-BR, etc.? Both dictionaries could be added to the same OXT, just as is done for en-*, but somehow the user has to have a way

RE: Resolving MS Word Binary File Format

2012-01-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I just downloaded the complete 70MB Zip of the complete set from the first link on this page: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc313118.aspx. The [MS-DOC].pdf is over 600 pages. So it is not a treat to implement from scratch, especially with figuring out how to map into/from the

RE: Question related derivative code based on our Apache licensed code

2012-01-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
OT: http://www.amazon.com/Allegro-non-troppo-Contrappunti-Italian/dp/8815019804/? It is conceivable that Cipola produced the English versions himself. A number of his papers have English-language titles. But the Italian title, leads to these:

RE: Seeking Bugzilla Admin Volunteers

2012-01-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on our own BZ Admin list. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 14:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Seeking Bugzilla Admin Volunteers [ ... ] I would like to discuss what the policy should become.

RE: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

2012-01-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If you look at the localization languages that are on the current list for built-by-AOO packages as part of a release, that effectively identifies the *minimum* set of languages that writing tools are required for. In addition, some of the built packages cover other languages by default simply

RE: [build] planning to create new developer snapshots

2012-01-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Take a look at this provisional page for unofficial developer snapshots started by Jürgen today: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots This seems like an easier place to do this. (I didn't know about it until I saw a commit message about

RE: Question related derivative code based on our Apache licensed code

2012-01-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I see no effort to weaken affiliation with LibreOffice. I see prominent affiliation by participants on Apache OpenOffice with LibreOffice (and consequently vice versa). That there are individuals on each project that find cooperation unappealing has not hindered cross-contribution. Perhaps

RE: Question related derivative code based on our Apache licensed code

2012-01-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Oracle required copyright assignment and had all the rights it needed to license the code base to the ASF. That is a different conversation than the honoring of licenses and directing ones contributions under one license or another. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Bjoern

RE: Java 7 and Apache OpenOffice

2012-01-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 There is a similar situation with some JIRA systems that I work on. VERIFIED is a nice condition. My understanding is that RESOLVED means that there is a resolution, with FIXED meaning it has been applied, with VERIFIED needed to be satisfied that the issue can be closed. There is still

RE: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Jürgen, I'm going to see if I can move Drew's two images for this particular case onto that page also. There is a cross-reference now. It would be good to have all of the proposed images for the same use to be together for easy comparison and mutual appraisal. - Dennis -Original

RE: Category-B tarballs in SVN (was Re: External libraries)

2012-01-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Pedro, That seems like a silly reason to step down from the PPMC. Nothing discussed here has involved a vote and it is not an ooo-private discussion. There is no obligation to vote on any issue and an abstention can be cast with no need for explanation. On a vote carried out on ooo-dev,

RE: Seeking Bugzilla Admin Volunteers

2012-01-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For David McKay, see if thegur...@apache.org is registered. On the other hand, I would not elevate his privileges or ask that he be set up as administrator without having his confirmation that he's still interested and available. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir

Images in AOO Blog Posts

2012-01-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Some externally-sourced images do not present properly in all browsers that visit the AOO blog. I notice this especially with IE 9 and IE 8. The root source is apparently violation of browser privacy rules (even set to medium or low) when accessing the image file attempts to deliver cookies

RE: Real life preview of some of the proposed images

2012-01-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Drew, 1. I notice that Jürgen's MAC image still has Open.Office.org in places (e.g., under the Orb and in the title of the screen). I like it too. 2. The new install images are interesting. When you are satisfied with the set, I am going to add the applicable ones (preferably the PNGs)

RE: Images in AOO Blog Posts

2012-01-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Yes, the imported image works just great. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 07:55 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Images in AOO Blog Posts [ ... ] OK. I saved the image from the forums to disk,and

RE: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Apparently, the bugzilla-ad...@apache.org e-mail is an alias for an infrastructure list, perhaps infrastructure@ itself. Issues that are specific to the AOO Podling bugzilla don't reach a project designee, if there is one, in any direct way. - Dennis -Original Message- From:

RE: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Apparently, the bugzilla-ad...@apache.org e-mail is an alias for an infrastructure list, perhaps infrastructure@ itself

RE: EN Forum Activity Summary

2012-01-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I noticed two things in the preview: 1. It would be good to emphasize more sharply that this is for the English Language Community Forums. Either in the title or in a simple lede. 2. The graphic is not coming through. It is evidently on the Forum site and it doesn't seem to be including

RE: EN Forum Activity Summary

2012-01-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, the blocking continues. So there is more to it. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:apa...@robweir.com] Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 17:24 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: EN Forum Activity Summary On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton

RE: Couldn't enter login status on service wik after longin

2012-01-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I see the same thing when I attempt to use the Login on that QA/TestResults page. My login is accepted but I am not shown as logged in and the Edit tab does not show up. This seems to be very specific to that page. - Dennis FURTHER EXPLORATION If I navigate to the Main Page via the

RE: Extensions hosting

2012-01-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
At some point it would be good to return to the use cases that are of concern and what they represent: 1. There are extensions that are bundled in the setup that is delivered as part of the install process for a binary release. These extensions are installed in a specific place while the

RE: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
1. I think there should be agreement on the design and not the fine technicalities (is the font and its license, is there one or more SVG masters, what are the crafted bitmap renderings, etc.). 2. It should also be clear what situations a particular image is intended to be employed in to

RE: Extensions hosting

2012-01-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
) that are not provided in the corresponding Apache OpenOffice release and should not be regarded as having the same provenance and being the responsibility of the Apache OpenOffice project. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 12:17

RE: [forums] Two Branding / Migration Issues

2012-01-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: RE: [forums] Two Branding / Migration Issues On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 18:20 -0800, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I have nothing new on this beyond the issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-104 and the related discussion at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118518

RE: i18nregexp replaced with ICU regexp = heads up

2012-01-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think there are three concerns regarding the substitution of ICU regexp (a move that I favor): 1. There are whatever the internal usages are within AOO. Those don't need to be documented externally. 2. There are the places where users may specify regular expressions, especially in Calc

RE: Question related derivative code based on our Apache licensed code

2012-01-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Agreed. The misconception is that the last guy to modify some code not created by that person gets to put his license over all of it. From that point on, there are no valid deductions. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Wednesday,

Site Staging Toward AOO 3.4 (was RE: [BUG] AOO cannot be installed)

2012-01-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 I am not disagreeing with Drew. I am agreeing that it is important to shed critical path wherever possible. Because there are different contributors involved, the critical path that Drew sees is not impacted by folks working on getting the site rebranded and managing whatever the

RE: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 To be clear, I assume the discussion is about the single logo that is at the top of the page (Example column) and made available in two download formats (Logo-AOO-dj.tar.bz2 and Logo-AOO-dj.zip). I also assume that it is the essential design that is being approved. There is need for

RE: [WWW] rebranding...

2012-01-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Let's take this knot apart and work it more systematically. 1. I think there is alignment on what the logo is for Apache OpenOffice (incubating), in terms of text with gulls. That takes care of the one main logo. 2. With regard to branding on the web properties, and the references to Apache

FW: Error message on Oracle's templates repository

2012-01-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I've lost track of who is keeping track of this. - Dennis -Original Message- From: floris v [mailto:floris...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 07:33 To: ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Error message on Oracle's templates repository The website where Oracle still hosts

RE: draft - Website migration(+) announcement - draft

2012-01-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are, of course, some cautious folks who still see their incoming mail as plaintext regardless of how it is sent. It matters, in that case, that the plaintext rendering be sufficient for the links to the full, formatted content to be seen and followed at the option of the recipient. The

RE: draft - Website migration(+) announcement - draft

2012-01-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 11:48 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: draft - Website migration(+) announcement - draft Hi, On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] 1

RE: Replacement for Liberation Fonts (was Re: Font related questions)

2011-12-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For resiliency testing of the font-embedding provisions in ODF, I am going to use the M+ font faces which are under a BSD-equivalent license. M+ appears to have characters for enough Unicode points for useful testing. This is not enough variety of font styles for a default set, though. There

FW: New: fake openoffice site

2011-12-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I see a number of factors related to the bug report, below: 1. The high search-result placement for a pay-for-download site 2. The prospect that the download is not authentic 3. The collection of a payment for the download It is unclear what appropriate actions are available. - Dennis

RE: [www][announce] Beginning the Website DNS Migration in 1 Day

2011-12-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Well, it is not a www.openoffice.org page, so the whole behavior is interesting. If I go from that page (with its missing formatting) to Browse an Archive, and come back, backing into the page has it show up with the correct format. I can also log in under my existing OOo ID and it works. If

RE: Improving the look of the our website

2011-12-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
First, I want to congratulate Dave, Kay, Gavin, and Joe for all of the work and no small amount of sleep-deprived nail-biting to kick off the cut-over to ASF custody and operation of the openoffice.org static web site. This is a big day. The journey of the site through Apache OpenOffice

RE: Now available: Apache OpenOffice Announcement List

2011-12-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I just subscribed and everything worked. You may need to check your spam or junk mail folder for the echo message. Also, the spam filter at the list service may have dropped your request for some reason. Check for a bounce message of some sort. And yes, try again. The response might not be

Accepting WhiteLabel Office Bug Reports?

2011-12-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I notice that a bugzilla report on WhiteLabel Office 3.3.1 was received and closed as invalid: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118695. I wonder if there is something more generous that can be provided here while the relationship between WLO 3.3.x, OO.o and AOO is sorted out. One

RE: Early User-QA Engagement (was RE: Ip Clearance: 1st version of Svg replacement available)

2011-12-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- From: TJ Frazier [mailto:tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 13:11 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Early User-QA Engagement (was RE: Ip Clearance: 1st version of Svg replacement available) On 12/26/2011 15:06, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I think that is a good idea

RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks! On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: orcmid comments=in-line / -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 22:55 To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator Subject: [WWW

RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks! Exactly. It doesn't exist on Apache Infra. It's Kenai. What do we do? Do we care? I don't. Who will change the site and how? Should it be before the migration or after? Regards, Dave On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:17 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I

RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It has to do with this page and all of the other pages like it for the lists that each of the OpenOffice.org projects (and NL projects) have: http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists. If you have an OpenOffice.org login, you will see Subscribe and (if already subscribed) Unsubscribe buttons

RE: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
monochrome icons Hello; --- Gio 22/12/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org ha scritto: 48 hours is too short. The practice is a minimum of 72 hours for a lazy consensus. (I am not arguing against your proposal.) I have no hurry to see this in but I do have to note

RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
? From: Dennis E. Hamilton hims...@orcmid.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks! It has to do with this page and all of the other

RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
/. would be welcome additions. CTR people! Regards, Dave From: Dennis E. Hamilton hims...@orcmid.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final

RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
and I'll respond to that now. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:34 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks! On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote

RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
work. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:42 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks! On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Now I'm even more

RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 13:28 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks! On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: All I know is that http://openoffice.org

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