[RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
It is now clear that, thanks to new volunteers now coordinating on ooo-l10n, we will soon be in a position to add 3-5 new languages to Apache OpenOffice. It is also clear that at the moment we have no demand for a 3.4.2 with critical bugfixes because... well, 3.4.1 does not have critical

Re: [QA BUG] - some regression defects were found by GUI perfromance test

2012-10-26 Thread Linyi Li
Hi Jianfang, Thanks for your clarification. I will retest it when the build is ready:) On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:20 PM, zhangjf zhan...@apache.org wrote: Hi, For bug 121199, it has the same root cause as bug 121134, so I just duplicated it with bug 121134. And Jinlong still doesn't have

Re: Apache and ODF

2012-10-26 Thread Fan Zheng
Hi, All: I am confused about the UX specifications of document representation requirement on mobile devices, that which is the most first important point should be, the different device condition adaptability of layout result? or the fidelity of the document originally recorded? For example. An

Re: [PROPOSAL] difficulty field for Bugzilla

2012-10-26 Thread Andre Fischer
On 24.10.2012 22:28, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: @Regina, Yes, Wizard is a reference to the level of mastery that a solver must possess, and is one of those which one of these words does not belong solutions. There is a well-known *logarithmic* difficulty scale that has been used over 40 years

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/26/12 9:00 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi On 26.10.2012 08:49, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 26/10/2012 Larry Gusaas wrote: The requested URL /~jsc/developer-snapshots/r1400866/macos/languagepacks/Apache_OpenOffice-Dev_AOO350m1_MacOS_x86_langpack_en-US.dmg was not found on this

Re: Apache and ODF

2012-10-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On 26 October 2012 08:42, Fan Zheng zheng.easy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All: I am confused about the UX specifications of document representation requirement on mobile devices, that which is the most first important point should be, the different device condition adaptability of layout

Re: Apache and ODF

2012-10-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:58:25 +0100 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 October 2012 08:42, Fan Zheng zheng.easy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All: I am confused about the UX specifications of document representation requirement on mobile devices, that which is the most first important

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
Thanks a lot for your long and informative answer, I read it with a positive attitude and will just make one comment, it is hard to be new especially with the state of documentation we have. I will in the future make a lot less noise. I will work your comments into my proposal, and in general I

[QA Call For Review]Bug 121279 - [testuno]frame wrap,anchor,position,size,description,hyperlink test uno script

2012-10-26 Thread Du Jing
Hi all, I have developed a test script about frame anchor,wrap,position,description,hyperlink properties,below is patch link, is there anyone help me to review? https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121279 Thanks~

Re: Apache and ODF

2012-10-26 Thread Fan Zheng
To Ian: Yes, I agree with you that there shall be options for: 1. Fitful formatting way, for the READING; and 2. Uniform formatting way, for the REPRESENTATION; Thus, the solution will lead: A: The bad thing is that there shall be a series of formatting specification definitions, for Kindle,

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: It seems that I messed up the links, it should be clean now. Let me know if there are still missing links Slovak (sk) Windows: listed in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds but missing. Polish (pl) Windows+Mac: not listed in

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/26/12 1:16 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: It seems that I messed up the links, it should be clean now. Let me know if there are still missing links Slovak (sk) Windows: listed in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds ups,

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 22/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 20/10/2012 imacat wrote: I happen to have a 300x100 logo at hand, so I updated it. Feel free to revise it if you feel my uploaded logo is ugly. The reference logo is http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO-logo-hires.jpg ...

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: It is now clear that, thanks to new volunteers now coordinating on ooo-l10n, we will soon be in a position to add 3-5 new languages to Apache OpenOffice. It is also clear that at the moment we have no demand for a

Re: Apache and ODF

2012-10-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Fan Zheng zheng.easy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All: I am confused about the UX specifications of document representation requirement on mobile devices, that which is the most first important point should be, the different device condition adaptability of layout

Re: Apache and ODF

2012-10-26 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 25.10.2012 21:14, Rob Weir wrote: If you search for it, you will find various solutions for converting ODF to EPub. But I have not seen something that does the same for Kindle's MOBI format. For the records: Amazon does not even deliver .epub files sent via Email to the mail account of

Re: Apache Asia Roadshow 2012 - Dec 13th Beijing

2012-10-26 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Don Peter, I think it is a very good opportunity to promote Apache OpenOffice in China marketing through Apache Asia Roadshow 2012. And from another side, the wide influence of OpenOffice can also help to promote Apache. I'd like to work with Peter together on it. The target can be not only

Re: Apache Asia Roadshow 2012 - Dec 13th Beijing

2012-10-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/26/12 3:48 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Don Peter, I think it is a very good opportunity to promote Apache OpenOffice in China marketing through Apache Asia Roadshow 2012. And from another side, the wide influence of OpenOffice can also help to promote Apache. I'd like to work with

Re: [PROPOSAL] difficulty field for Bugzilla

2012-10-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 24.10.2012 22:28, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: @Regina, Yes, Wizard is a reference to the level of mastery that a solver must possess, and is one of those which one of these words does not belong solutions. There is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: The launch of 4.0 is a unique opportunity in the life of AOO both now and far into the future. The branding needs to position us in the market place, be distinctive and unique and makes a statement about the product.

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
Do you mean the outdated symbol, which should do just fine ?? Jan. On 26 October 2012 17:18, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/25/12 9:19 PM, jan iversen wrote: Maybe we could move them to an archive ?? I think we can find probably common consensus that we want to

RE: Apache and ODF

2012-10-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Rory, I agree about Kindle. A Kindle Fire has more functionality and all of the UI capabilities one expects of an Android device, whereas the Kindle Readers have a different, special-purpose application. I see Rob has provided a comprehensive statement later on this thread. I would add

RE: [PROPOSAL] difficulty field for Bugzilla

2012-10-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Andre, Absolutely. Knuth originally published his scale for difficulty of exercises in 1968. It is in the Notes on Exercises in every edition since, including the 1997 version that I use now. I modified it as you can see. Also, Knuth has a way to indicate when there were special skills

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On 26 October 2012 16:04, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: The launch of 4.0 is a unique opportunity in the life of AOO both now and far into the future. The branding needs to position us in the market place,

Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!

2012-10-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/25/2012 04:58 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/20/2012 12:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-26 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 26 Oct 2012 11:04:46 Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: The launch of 4.0 is a unique opportunity in the life of AOO both now and far into the future. The branding needs to position us in the market place, be distinctive

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Jan; No the outdated symbol is different. {{Delete}} Is a template that puts the article in a special category to be deleted by an admin or by a bot. Keith jan iversen wrote: Do you mean the outdated symbol, which should do just fine ?? Jan. On 26 October 2012 17:18, Jürgen Schmidt

[APEU2012] Schedule on 11/5

2012-10-26 Thread imacat
Dear all, I will arrive Hotel Sinsheim at noon, 11/5. You may find me in the afternoon, 11/5, if you want to discuss with me about forum, wiki or anything. We do not have a scheduled Hackathon, but we may still work on something. See you there. ^_*' P.S. Do we have anyone that is local at

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-26 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 05:27:41PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, a new snapshot build is available for MacOS and Windows. Linux will be available later. They are now available. Once thing to pay attention for the next release is the increasing size: more than 14 Gb for Linux packages

Re: svn commit: r1402586 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/pmc-faqs.mdtext

2012-10-26 Thread Dave Fisher
I have access to the current list and will make the full update by early next week. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:19 AM, b...@apache.org wrote: Author: bmcs Date: Fri Oct 26 17:19:31 2012 New Revision: 1402586 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1402586view=rev Log:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: On Friday 26 Oct 2012 11:04:46 Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: The launch of 4.0 is a unique opportunity in the life of AOO both now and far

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang packs only for now 2) release full installs, but for only these new languages I don't see a big difference between a langpack and a full install in this case, so I'd go for full installs, unless releasing langpacks helps in communicating that

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
So if an article is outdated, then it is ready for deletionor ??? Is it wise to have outdated articles alongside the correct/newer ones, thinking of e.g. building instructions it would at least confuse me. but I have no problem using {{Delete}} thanks for advicing me. jan. On 26 October

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
just two small comments. have a nice weekend. Jan. On 26 October 2012 19:43, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang packs only for now 2) release full installs, but for only these new languages I don't see a big difference between a

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-26 Thread RGB ES
2012/10/26 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 05:27:41PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, a new snapshot build is available for MacOS and Windows. Linux will be available later. They are now available. Once thing to pay attention for the next release is

Re: [PROPOSAL] difficulty field for Bugzilla

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/24/2012 09:08 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: As you have probably noticed, I'm engaged in a variety of initiatives to grow the community, bring in more volunteers, etc. One additional piece that I think would be useful is to add a new field to Bugzilla to indicate the difficulty level of the bug.

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Jan; {{Documentation/Outdated}} and {{delete}} are two seperate entities. Outdated merely says that some inormation is outdated and should be revised. {{delete}} is a special case that marks a file for speedy deletion by an wiki administrator. At least with the user documentation we tend to

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-26 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 02:28:42PM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 05:27:41PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, a new snapshot build is available for MacOS and Windows. Linux will be available later. They are now available. Once thing to pay attention for

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-26 Thread RGB ES
2012/10/26 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Ricardo, On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 08:24:26PM +0200, RGB ES wrote: On the forums we are testing the ES version and I have a doubt about non translated text on the UI: while there are some strings that comes from new code (new

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
Please allow a side-question. Can the UNO command also be used to identify where a string is used in the UI framework and not only the source code where it is programmed ? my problem is that I was told that it would be of high value to language QA if the system could provide screenshots showing

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
Thanks for clearing that up. I have just been searching for build instructions (again), and in the search response I cannot see if an article is outdated, so I had to open some before I got the correct one. Would it be an idea (if possible) to have outdated as a category, and extend the search to

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread RGB ES
2012/10/26 jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com Thanks for clearing that up. I have just been searching for build instructions (again), and in the search response I cannot see if an article is outdated, so I had to open some before I got the correct one. Would it be an idea (if possible) to

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
So it is just a matter of having a checkbox next to the the search (upper corner) ? but I assume the setup of wiki is INFRA and not something we control locally, so a change is not very easy (or how to request such a change) ? jan. On 26 October 2012 21:36, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Thanks or that Ricardo, I had forgotten that outdated also assigned the category. Regards Keith RGB ES wrote: 2012/10/26 jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com Thanks for clearing that up. I have just been searching for build instructions (again), and in the search response I cannot see if an

Re: svn commit: r1402586 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/pmc-faqs.mdtext

2012-10-26 Thread Dave Barton
Is this the same list per your email Sept 23 https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201209.mbox/%3CD3A520E4-AD53-43D6-9E3B-43CA10E6D54A%40comcast.net%3E If there haven't been any other changes since then I would be happy to make the update. Original Message

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/26/2012 07:43 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang packs only for now 2) release full installs, but for only these new languages I don't see a big difference between a langpack and a full install in this case, so I'd go for full installs, unless

[DISCUSS] Cleanup installation files, make them more modular

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
I've modified the subject as I think this topic deserves its own, new thread. Am 10/26/2012 07:28 PM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 05:27:41PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Once thing to pay attention for the next release is the increasing size: more than 14 Gb for

The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi Every now and then a user finds the experience of downloading, installing, using AOO disappointing and frankly frustrating if not worse. They will usually go to the user forums, but sometimes they will contact the Apache Foundation directly. Okay, but this does not really help them. What we

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
On 26 October 2012 23:06, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 07:43 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang packs only for now 2) release full installs, but for only these new languages I don't see a big difference between a

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lo...@apache.org wrote: Hi Every now and then a user finds the experience of downloading, installing, using AOO disappointing and frankly frustrating if not worse. They will usually go to the user forums, but sometimes they will contact the

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
Just an idea, which once helped me. Typically users dont think things will go wrong so they dont pay attention to whatever we write, but one apache project had a quite clever solution (if I remember right it was Axis, but dont depend on my memory), when the installation failed it did not just

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, -Original Message- From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] On Behalf Ideas? What do you mean? Better design or more/better content? If you feel content, maybe even local resources would be useful. For example, I am since over 8 years moderator in the largest

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 07:43 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang packs only for now 2) release full installs, but for only these new languages I don't see a big difference between a

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12-10-26, at 17:33 , Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, -Original Message- From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] On Behalf Ideas? What do you mean? Better design or more/better content? If you feel content, maybe even local resources would be

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/26/2012 11:20 PM, schrieb jan iversen: On 26 October 2012 23:06, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 07:43 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang packs only for now 2) release full installs, but for only these new languages

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.comwrote: On 12-10-26, at 17:25 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Of course, the real question, Louis, is what do *you* want to do? Be cynical, or I mean, more cynical. Seriously, I have the same objections and

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/26/2012 11:25 PM, schrieb jan iversen: Just an idea, which once helped me. Typically users dont think things will go wrong so they dont pay attention to whatever we write, but one apache project had a quite clever solution And when they remember that there was a banner talking about How

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12-10-26, at 17:38 , Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.comwrote: On 12-10-26, at 17:25 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Of course, the real question, Louis, is what do *you* want to do? Be cynical, or I

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
On 26 October 2012 23:38, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 11:20 PM, schrieb jan iversen: On 26 October 2012 23:06, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 07:43 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/26/2012 11:38 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Louis Suárez-Pottslui...@gmail.comwrote: On 12-10-26, at 17:25 , Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Of course, the real question, Louis, is what do *you* want to do? Be cynical, or I mean, more cynical.

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/26/2012 11:35 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 07:43 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang packs only for now 2) release full installs, but for only these new

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/26/2012 11:46 PM, schrieb jan iversen: On 26 October 2012 23:38, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 11:20 PM, schrieb jan iversen: On 26 October 2012 23:06, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 07:43 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir

Re: [PROPOSAL] difficulty field for Bugzilla

2012-10-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/26/2012 07:26 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 24.10.2012 22:28, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: @Regina, Yes, Wizard is a reference to the level of

Re: [DISCUSS] Cleanup installation files, make them more modular

2012-10-26 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:06:45PM +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I've modified the subject as I think this topic deserves its own, new thread. Am 10/26/2012 07:28 PM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 05:27:41PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Once thing to pay attention

extensions and translations.

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
While doing an update to the l10n workflow I think I found a slight problem. Extensions offers the capability to integrate/extend our UI. Assuming somebody writes an extension, and publishes it on http://www.openoffice.org/extensions/ how does that get integrated into the translation process ?

Re: [DISCUSS] Cleanup installation files, make them more modular

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/27/2012 12:33 AM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:06:45PM +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I've modified the subject as I think this topic deserves its own, new thread. Am 10/26/2012 07:28 PM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 05:27:41PM +0200,

Re: extensions and translations.

2012-10-26 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:36:38AM +0200, jan iversen wrote: While doing an update to the l10n workflow I think I found a slight problem. Extensions offers the capability to integrate/extend our UI. Assuming somebody writes an extension, and publishes it on

Re: [DISCUSS] Cleanup installation files, make them more modular

2012-10-26 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:47:56AM +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I don't see the context to bad inet connections. Maybe you can tell with some other words? When we do the restructure then we will have less content on the mirrors. But for the user there is no change as they still have to

Re: extensions and translations.

2012-10-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/27/2012 12:36 AM, schrieb jan iversen: While doing an update to the l10n workflow I think I found a slight problem. Extensions offers the capability to integrate/extend our UI. Assuming somebody writes an extension, and publishes it on http://www.openoffice.org/extensions/ how does that

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... it would probably allow to skip the release process and voting, since we would merely be adding 3-5 binary artifacts (built for different platforms). It is an interesting question if we should only vote for source releases. Certainly

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
+1, being a non-native english speakng person, I want to ensure that we keep the AOO stability in language versions and not just see them as nice to have add-on !! jan On 27 October 2012 01:48, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ...

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 26, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Hi Every now and then a user finds the experience of downloading, installing, using AOO disappointing and frankly frustrating if not worse. They will usually go to the user forums, but sometimes they will contact the Apache

Re: extensions and translations.

2012-10-26 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 01:17:33AM +0200, jan iversen wrote: I see, I have to get used to this license issues (a long time ago I believed open source was just open source, then I joined an apache project). It has nothing to do with licensing. Even if the extension code and all its dependencies

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... it would probably allow to skip the release process and voting, since we would merely be adding 3-5 binary artifacts (built for different platforms). It is