Re: Subversion history

2011-06-19 Thread Marcus (OOo)
OK, good to know. Am 06/19/2011 04:23 AM, schrieb Greg Stein: Go look at archive.org sometime. It seems just fine if they crawl and save the entire OOo site. Has nothing to do with licensing. Cheers, -g On Jun 18, 2011 9:56 PM, Luke Kowalskiluke.kowal...@oracle.com wrote: Simon, I am not

Re: HowTo for editing the website

2011-06-20 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/20/2011 07:56 PM, schrieb Arthur Buijs: the menu at the left doesn't seem to work on your howto page. Which menu do you mean? What is displayed and what is the title of the page? Thanks Marcus

Re: About apache.org E-mail Addresses/Aliases

2011-06-24 Thread Marcus (OOo)
I've used your brief summary to add it to the FAQs. ;-) Marcus Am 06/24/2011 09:27 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT TO EXPECT AS AN INITIAL COMMITTER

Re: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members

2011-06-24 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/24/2011 03:48 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Since almost all of us are new to Apache we're learning a lot about how Apache projects organize themselves. Based on my reading, I understand that Apache projects have three degrees of participation: 0) Users that are just working with the software.

Re: [PATCH] Corrected two typos on website

2011-06-24 Thread Marcus (OOo)
, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Dick Groskampth.grosk...@quicknet.nl wrote: Op 24-6-2011 20:18, Marcus (OOo) schreef: Thanks for the fix. :-) As I don't know yet how to add a patch to SVN, I've corrected the text directly. I hope it's OK for you. Of course I've mentioned you in the commit message. Marcus

Re: What to Expect as Initial Committer (RE: About apache.org E-mail Addresses/Aliases)

2011-06-24 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Message- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 05:43 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: About apache.org E-mail Addresses/Aliases I've used your brief summary to add it to the FAQs. ;-) Marcus Am 06/24/2011 09:27 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton

Re: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS

2011-06-24 Thread Marcus (OOo)
My experience is that the user has to a) subscribe to this mailing list and b) he doesn't know how to search for other things like in a FAQ. Of course, you think it's easy to subscribe and I can search in a mail archive. But for the *average* user these are unfamiliar things and IMHO they

Re: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS

2011-06-24 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Yes, IMHO we must have user mailing lists for their native languages. Otherwise we cannot bring them onboard. But only when it's requested. We can start with the normal one in English and see which other languages are requested again and again. If the user forums can be migrated then we have

Re: My introduction

2011-06-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Thanks, lets see how long we need for the first build. But first we need to learn how releasing is working at the ASF. Marcus Am 06/26/2011 12:37 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: Hi Marcus, I liked the time when I was watching the OpenOffice.org releases list and reading your posts updating

Re: Top level question on website migration

2011-06-27 Thread Marcus (OOo)
See here if you want to edit the webpages: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/docs/edit-cms.html Am 06/27/2011 05:29 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Kay, I know the Kenai layout, I was asking about

Re: Top level question on website migration

2011-06-27 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/27/2011 02:28 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Assuming we're not trying for a big bang migration where we move everything at once, it seems we have two main approaches: 1) Assign existing OpenOffice.org DNS to Apache now. For services which we have not yet migrated to Apache we redirect back to

Re: Please add your name to the contributors page

2011-06-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)
When editing the CMS via command line, then there is also no preview. ;-) So, IMHO errors will come along in any case. Marcus Am 06/28/2011 11:02 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: OK. That appears to work, though the wiki-like syntax did not. The downside is that the web-preview with that syntax does

Re: Please add your name to the contributors page

2011-06-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)
for the table's contents to stabilize and then sort it. If you sort it now, it will become only partially sorted in another 8 hours. -Rob On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Next point for clarification: How to sort this table? I would prefer by last name

Re: Build-Translate-Plan

2011-06-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
IMHO you can do such little changes without to ask. We should extended the languages to Russian (due to Cyrillic letters) and Portuguese resp. Brazilian-Portuguese (due to long compared to other languages). Marcus Am 06/29/2011 01:46 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: As we see Plan Matrix,

Re: Build-Translate-Plan

2011-06-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
is the easiest test that we can do to verify that localization is not broken in OOo? For a public release, this will be much more complicated. -Rob On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: IMHO you can do such little changes without to ask. We should extended

Re: Naming of trunk and feature branches

2011-06-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/29/2011 03:45 PM, schrieb Greg Stein: Yes, very much clearer. Thanks! :-) Whatever ever we decide on the name, it will be Apache $something. We know that much, but I don't think the community has (yet) tried to figure out what $something should be. OpenOffice? OpenOffice.org? Office?

Re: Please add your name to the contributors page

2011-06-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/29/2011 03:52 PM, schrieb Eike Rathke: On Tuesday, 2011-06-28 15:03:03 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: This is an essential project skill, so if you have not already studied that page, it would be good to take this as an opportunity to pick up this skill. If you are a programmer, comfortable

Re: Build-Translate-Plan

2011-06-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/29/2011 04:12 PM, schrieb Greg Stein: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 09:11, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Right. Maybe we should split this into 2 parts: 1. The very first build(s) to handle fixes for build breaker: IMHO here it should be enough to have en-US only For better

Re: OpenOffice project interest in South Africa?

2011-06-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/29/2011 11:08 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Just noticed that we had project members from North America, South America, Europe, Asia and Australia. So 5 of 7 continents. I have doubts that we'll get anyone from Antarctica. Come on, don't exclude them before they had a chance to spoke up via

Re: Naming of trunk and feature branches

2011-07-01 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/30/2011 04:03 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Sorry, it seems I wasn't clear enough. I don't think about how to name directories and files in the SVN repo itself. Sure we can stick with the schema like it is done

Re: Naming of trunk and feature branches

2011-07-01 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/01/2011 04:56 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 06/30/2011 04:03 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Sorry, it seems I wasn't clear

Re: Naming of trunk and feature branches

2011-07-01 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/01/2011 05:23 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@openoffice.orgwrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.dewrote: Am 07/01/2011 04:56 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Marcus

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/03/2011 07:43 AM, schrieb C: On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 06:29, Graham Lauderyori...@openoffice.org wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 12:57 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: Some projects are huge and others small. I downloaded several: wave@minotaur:~/ooo-test$ ls -1 development documentation download

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh

2011-07-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/05/2011 09:33 PM, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a look into the conversion. In case anyone else is already at

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/05/2011 10:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauermathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-07 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/07/2011 11:25 AM, schrieb Graham Lauder: On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:34 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Graham Lauderyori...@openoffice.orgwrote: We had some earlier discussions on this. Personally, I was proposing that we take the opportunity to simplify.

Re: Future of OOo

2011-07-07 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Asked for a screenshot? Here you are: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:SO52_Desktopintegration.pngfiletimestamp=20090521112446 And already in German. ;-) I think for the license it should be OK when you name the source. When I remember

Re: ooo blog

2011-07-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
*and* to moderate comments. Right? Marcus On 08/07/11 22:36, Marcus (OOo) wrote: AFAIK we have not yet decided if we want to remove the .org extension or keep like it was in the old project. BTW: What will be the URL name? So, before a name will be setup we should clarify these things first. Marcus

Re: Blog Created

2011-07-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
I would like to help to admin. So please give an account. My ID is marcus. Thanks Marcus Am 07/09/2011 12:07 PM, schrieb Gavin McDonald: Hi All, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Currently I have invited: Dave and Andy as Admins Dennis as Author Anyone else wants an account please let me

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
OK, to let the name start with Apache seems to be a requirement. Am I right when I see more people saying that it should be named Apache OpenOffice.org and not Apache OpenOffice? BTW: I don't want to get rid of the .org extension on any price. Due to the new Apache home I just wanted to talk

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/11/2011 05:18 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Kay Schenk wrote: On 07/11/2011 04:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 11:12 +0100, David McKay wrote: snip On 09/07/11 07:58, eric b wrote: The .org is and was always essential to the community. Why? Out of the folk on the OOo

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/12/2011 08:55 AM, schrieb Pavel Janík: It seems to me that a lot of the problem arises in keeping the development project and the product brand names exactly the same. Another proposal: Product name: OpenOffice.org. Project name: Apache OpenOffice.org. I'm strongly against mixing OOo

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/12/2011 02:01 PM, schrieb Kai Ahrens: Am 12.07.2011 12:30, schrieb Marcus (OOo): When the users actually do what they want to name the product and/or project, IMHO then there is no need to change anything that you cannot predict. Then we can stick with the known brand name and also avoid

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/12/2011 01:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Graham Lauderyori...@openoffice.org wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 20:21 +0300, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Javier Sola wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:43:17 +0700: If Apache forced this without discussion it would be a bad

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/12/2011 02:28 PM, schrieb Kai Ahrens: Am 12.07.2011 14:18, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/12/2011 02:01 PM, schrieb Kai Ahrens: Am 12.07.2011 12:30, schrieb Marcus (OOo): When the users actually do what they want to name the product and/or project, IMHO then there is no need to change

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-13 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/14/2011 12:00 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: I'm sending this with my IBM hat. I'm going to be speaking at the ODF Plugfest in Berlin Friday afternoon, and will be making some announcements. I wanted you to hear this first, before anyone else knows. Great, thanks for this. [...] We will be

Re: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

2011-07-18 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/18/2011 12:36 PM, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 17 July 2011 20:26, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/13/2011 06:37 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: ... Contributions elsewhere do not count. It is contributions here that matter. There was plenty of time during proposal time for past

Re: Before Symphony contribution

2011-07-18 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/18/2011 06:32 PM, schrieb imacat: I welcome the contribution from the Symphony team. But before the Symphony contribution, shouldn't it be the first task to move the source onto Apache SVN or something, instead of the current mercurial hg? Not only IBM would like to contribute back

Re: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

2011-07-18 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/18/2011 08:12 PM, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 18.07.2011 12:53, Marcus (OOo) wrote: That the new contributors have to play the game now with the Apache rules is OK. But they need to know *that* it's going on. I've heard a few times that it was still thought that OOo is dead. They haven't

Re: A first try to remove some copyleft components from the build

2011-07-18 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/18/2011 10:04 PM, schrieb David McKay: On 18/07/11 20:50, Andy Brown wrote: Mathias Bauer wrote: On 18.07.2011 20:21, Mathias Bauer wrote: 1) xpdf (GPL'd) is a run dependency, this is linux/unix specific. PDFBox may be a replacement. This component is used for the pdf import

Re: Slides and Video of my Apache Way talk at ODF Plugfest

2011-07-20 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Thanks for the links to your presentation. Even with the terrible sound in the hall I can imagine that you had fun to present what and how Apache is doing. Marcus Am 07/19/2011 04:33 PM, schrieb Ross Gardler: I've uploaded the slides of my presentation to the ODF Plugfest to slideshare

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/21/2011 03:16 AM, schrieb Shane Curcuru: Thanks for the info. Note that it would be helpful if people interested in working with trademarks read the Apache policies, as well as our growing list of FAQs: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/

Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

2011-07-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)
The Connector for MS SharePoint (also for Alfresco's CMS and Oracle's Universal Content Management (UCM)) wasn't part of the OOo development. It was working for OOo, too, yes, but the main point was to have it for StarOffice resp. Oracle Open Office. I don't think it will be part of the grant

Re: Suggestion for OOo branding...

2011-07-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/21/2011 11:35 PM, schrieb Michael Acevedo: Greetings to all developers of OpenOffice.org in Apache, I am writing to you to make a suggestion for the branding of OpenOffice.org. After Oracle bought Sun they decided to simplify document icons by changing the color codingto a unified blue

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)
: On 21 Jul 2011, at 06:31, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/21/2011 01:11 PM, schrieb Eike Rathke: Hi Peter, On Thursday, 2011-07-21 09:21:45 +0800, Peter Junge wrote: Once this is cooked, I'm eager for us to pick up the threads on trademark enforcement against subscription fraud abusers

Re: Suggestion for OOo branding...

2011-07-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/22/2011 08:11 AM, schrieb Gianluca Turconi: In data 22 luglio 2011 alle ore 04:29:02, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org ha scritto: Also, using ODF in those boxes is not exactly OOo branding. When OO.o is registered to be the application that works with .doc, .xls, .ppt, etc.,

Re: Suggestion for OOo branding...

2011-07-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
. Yes, it would be a great help to our users if they can choose their favorite icon design. I could imagine a pool of the current B/W and the older colored icons with the option to bring in own sets (e.g., the set from LO). Marcus On 7/21/2011 4:00 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/21/2011 11

Re: Suggestion for OOo branding...

2011-07-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/22/2011 02:03 PM, schrieb Gianluca Turconi: 2011/7/22 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de We need to be able to simultaneously develop alternatives on the design front. Yes, it would be a great help to our users if they can choose their favorite icon design. I could imagine a pool

Re: [DISCUSS] Initial Committer: Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

2011-07-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
I think Christian is right. It's about to close the gate for being a *initial* committer. Not the *normal* committer status. And for this we have to define a deadline. My suggestion is still end of July or latestly end of August. When you have entered your name on the list on the beginning

Re: [DISCUSS] Initial Committer: Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

2011-07-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/23/2011 05:11 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Let me ask the question in reverse: how long do you think that we should leave the door open, no questions asked?

Re: [DISCUSS] Initial Committer: Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

2011-07-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/23/2011 06:29 PM, schrieb IngridvdM: Please find my comments inline. Am 23.07.2011 14:45, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I think Christian is right. It's about to close the gate for being a *initial* committer. Not the *normal* committer status. I don't have gotten that wrong. I was talking

Re: When does one become a committer?

2011-07-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
For me the main point is the vote. You should note that it is still possible that one can rejecting the vote and still keep the role as a normal contributor, user, etc. So, no vote, no committer status. *) Everything else like signed iCLA, chosen ID, subscribing to mailing lists is kind of

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-01 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/01/2011 09:07 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi, AFAIK the current projects at Apache doesn't have high download numbers compared with OOo. So, a download request can point directly to a mirror or a mirror list is shown

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-01 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/01/2011 09:14 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi, AFAIK the current projects at Apache doesn't have high download numbers compared with OOo. So, a download request can point

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-01 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/02/2011 12:15 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 1 August 2011 22:51, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/01/2011 09:25 PM, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 1 August 2011 18:20, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.dewrote: AFAIK the current projects at Apache doesn't have high download

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-01 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/02/2011 12:49 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/02/2011 12:15 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 1 August 2011 22:51, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.dewrote: Am 08/01/2011 09:25 PM, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 1 August

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/02/2011 03:00 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/02/2011 01:00 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 1 August 2011 23:42, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/02/2011 12:15 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler: ... The ASF does not care what your

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/02/2011 04:53 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/02/2011 02:15 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/02/2011 03:00 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Marcus

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/02/2011 06:05 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/02/2011 04:53 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/02/2011 02:15 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/02/2011 11:03 PM, schrieb Gavin McDonald: -Original Message- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011 12:55 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads? Thanks for you note. Then we should implement

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/03/2011 02:17 AM, schrieb Gavin McDonald: -Original Message- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011 9:40 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads? Am 08/02/2011 11:03 PM, schrieb Gavin McDonald

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
mirror server + file name to get the download URL. Marcus Am 08/02/2011 01:34 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/02/2011 01:00 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 1 August 2011 23:42, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/02/2011 12:15 AM, schrieb Ross Gardler: ... The ASF does not care what

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/03/2011 04:53 PM, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 3 August 2011 15:47, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: I've created a little diagram how I think the download has to work: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/docs/download_process.png As it seems we cannot go on like we did

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/03/2011 04:57 PM, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 3 August 2011 15:53, Ross Gardlerrgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 3 August 2011 15:47, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: I've created a little diagram how I think the download has to work: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/03/2011 04:54 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Marcus (OOo) wrote: I've created a little diagram how I think the download has to work: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/docs/download_process.png As it seems we cannot go on like we did with OOo the JS magic has to change a bit, how

Re: status of OpenOffice logo?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/03/2011 05:56 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: There are some first steps proceding with moving portions of the existng OpenOffice.org site to Apache. See, for example,

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
far. But new project, new try. ;-) And of course as now #2 and #3 are choices from the right side navigation. Yes. Marcus Am 08/03/2011 05:54 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/03/2011 04:54 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Marcus (OOo) wrote: I've created a little diagram how I

Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Do you mean this? http://www.openoffic.org http://www.openoffic.org/news Or which landing pages do you have in mind? Marcus Am 08/03/2011 09:29 PM, schrieb Shane Curcuru: (Taking the opportunity to Refactor a new thread on OpenOffice.org) Are there any short term plans to update the main

Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Sorry, of course I meant these: http://www.openoffice.org http://www.openoffice.org/news I think you knew this. ;-) Marcus Am 08/03/2011 10:13 PM, schrieb Larry Gusaas: On 2011/08/03 1:43 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote: Do you mean this? deleted spam links / Or which landing pages do you have

Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/03/2011 10:31 PM, schrieb Larry Gusaas: On 2011/08/03 2:26 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote: Sorry, of course I meant these: http://www.openoffice.org http://www.openoffice.org/news I think you knew this. ;-) Of course. But only after clicking on the previous links which opened a pop up in Safari

Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/03/2011 11:41 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Am 03.08.11 23:27, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Do you mean this? http://www.openoffic.org http://www.openoffic.org/news Or which landing pages do you have in mind? An idea

Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?

2011-08-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/03/2011 11:58 PM, schrieb Andrew Rist: On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Do you mean this? http://www.openoffic.org http://www.openoffic.org/news Or which landing pages do you have in mind? An idea

Re: Who supports OpenOffice.org 3.3.0? (was Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org?)

2011-08-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
I would expect that the support is going on as it was before: community-driven. So the version number doesn't (shouldn't) matter. There won't be an active distribution of older releases. However, they are still on our mirrors. 3.3.0, 3.3.0 Beta and some Dev Builds are on the big mirror

Re: Japanese site, wiki, forum and mailing lists (was Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org?)

2011-08-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/04/2011 04:19 AM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: Hi all, All the contents of Japanese site[1], wiki[2], forum[3], mailing lists[4] are essential assets to create a new Japanese OpenOffice.org [1] http://ja.openoffice.org/ [2] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/JA/ I

Re: How to handle the downloads?

2011-08-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/04/2011 01:57 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 3, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011 8:54 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads? Am 08

Re: Who supports OpenOffice.org 3.3.0? (was Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org?)

2011-08-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/04/2011 01:59 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: Hi Marcus, On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: I would expect that the support is going on as it was before: community-driven. So the version number doesn't (shouldn't) matter. It's good if we can continue

Re: Who supports OpenOffice.org 3.3.0? (was Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org?)

2011-08-04 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/04/2011 02:06 PM, schrieb Ian Lynch: On 4 August 2011 12:59, Kazunari Hiranokhir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marcus, On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: I would expect that the support is going on as it was before: community-driven. So the version

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
I hope that we still agree to keep the binfilters with our first Apache release. Otherwise we would deplay it more than IMHO necessary. After the first is done we can remove them for the 2nd official Apache version. While we do many dev builds on the way (hopefully, like it was with OOo) we

Re: The VM for the Wiki is online

2011-08-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Sounds great. Thanks for the progress notice. Marcus Am 08/05/2011 07:35 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Hi at all Gav, the Admin from the ASF has setup the VM for the MediaWiki. It's a Ubuntu 10.4.3 LTS VM. At the Moment Gav and I has admin access to this machine. First we have to install all

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/06/2011 12:31 AM, schrieb Andy Brown: drew wrote: Hi Dave, et al 6 - Acquire new logo(s) for footer and proper link reference. (currently the footer also has an Oracle logo and links to the Oracle Open Office site - I'm thinking a generic Apache logo and link to Apache.org. Any

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-07 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/06/2011 02:45 PM, schrieb Eric Hoch: Hi Armin, Am Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:56:45 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand: Am 05.08.2011 22:22, schrieb Eric Hoch: Hi Armin, Am Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:01:52 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand: Am 05.08.2011 18:47, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: The only problem with

Re: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-07 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/06/2011 06:35 PM, schrieb Ingrid von der Mehden: Am 06.08.2011 17:50, schrieb drew: On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 17:41 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi drew, On Saturday, 2011-08-06 11:27:14 -0400, drew wrote: Ok - here is a possible footer

Re: [Proposal]

2011-08-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/08/2011 05:23 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: My experience of various communities over the last decade suggests Ross is exactly right here. Don't start new mailing lists until we've used the proposed list names as subject-line tags and measured the traffic using them. Once we know there is

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo Bugzilla for new bugs. Now found this, which claims that the download not happens: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118391 I checked it, went to the download page and started to download 3.3 version

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/08/2011 10:56 PM, schrieb Christoph Jopp: Am 08.08.2011 19:59, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo Bugzilla for new bugs. Now found this, which claims that the download not happens: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/08/2011 11:33 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: 2011/8/8 Christoph Joppj...@gmx.de Am 08.08.2011 19:59, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo Bugzilla for new bugs. Now found this, which claims that the download not happens: http

Re: [www] OOo Website Conversion

2011-08-09 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/09/2011 03:07 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: Hi - Progress. On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/08/2011 08:29 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Kay, I was able to get HTML wrapped using the Apache CMS last night. I'm not ready to commit anything yet. I'll summarize where I am and

Re: [Repo] SVN ETA? (was Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.)

2011-08-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/10/2011 06:21 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 09:01:42 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: b) to keep the complete OOo HG repo in apache-extras to keep the CWS developments but also to keep the repo history for reference. This is correct and is done

Re: [WWW] Web analytics

2011-08-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/12/2011 05:30 PM, schrieb drew: Hi, Well, I thought I'd start this list - unless folks think it is too soon of course. Currently the OO.o web sites, all of them, utilize a third party analytics firm (not Google). This is done by requiring that each site inject a small bit of JS in the

Re: [WWW] Web analytics

2011-08-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/12/2011 11:01 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Simon Phippssi...@webmink.com wrote: On 12 Aug 2011, at 21:14, Eike Rathke wrote: So first question is: analytics yes or no, which affects also the Privacy Policy. I suggest the right question is which project

Re: [WWW] Web analytics

2011-08-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/12/2011 10:42 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Eike Rathkeo...@erack.de wrote: Hi Rob, On Friday, 2011-08-12 13:29:00 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: Before taking that step, it's worth asking if the project actually has a need for web analytics yet. They were included on

Re: [WWW] Web analytics

2011-08-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
+1 I think, too, we need some data to service the users needs better. And we should collect as less data as possible and at a specific time when we really need it. Marcus Am 08/12/2011 11:35 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: +1 on no data collected before we have a clear need for it and

Re: [WWW] Web analytics

2011-08-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/13/2011 12:30 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/12/2011 10:42 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Eike Rathkeo...@erack.dewrote: Hi Rob, On Friday, 2011-08-12 13:29:00 -0400, Rob Weir wrote

Re: [WWW] Web analytics

2011-08-13 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/13/2011 03:49 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/13/2011 12:30 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: snip Remember, even if we used Piwik, the data would be in the US. All user accounts for Apache, all wiki accounts, all mailing lists

Re: [www] OOo Website Conversion

2011-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
for details would be helpful. Marcus On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:09 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: snip When you look at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/download/index.html; the sidenav is not really turned off. It's just without content

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/14/2011 08:01 AM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Am 14.08.11 03:58, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Eike Rathkeo...@erack.de wrote: Hi Rob, On Saturday, 2011-08-13 10:51:57 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: Donations went to Team OpenOffice.org, e.V, or to SPI (for US donations).

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/15/2011 10:45 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:27:29 +0200, Ingrid von der Mehden ingrid...@gmx-topmail.de wrote: Am 15.08.2011 21:13, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni: --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rob Weirapa...@robweir.com wrote: [..] ooo/trunk/core --- all the OOO340 stuff

Re: openoffice.org domains transferred to ASF

2011-08-17 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/17/2011 09:09 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: Thanks Shane! Yes, thank you! On Aug 17, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: Dear PPMC: please note that a few days ago Oracle and the ASF signed the legal agreement to transfer ownership of a variety of ooo related domain names to the

Re: openoffice.org domains transferred to ASF

2011-08-17 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/17/2011 10:00 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Shane Curcurua...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: Dear PPMC: please note that a few days ago Oracle and the ASF signed the legal agreement to transfer ownership of a variety of ooo related domain names to the ASF. Yay! Along

Re: How does BizDev fit in at Apache?

2011-08-18 Thread Marcus (OOo)
An idea would be to put it together with the support webpages or to put it into the user wiki. Marcus Am 08/18/2011 06:39 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock: Apache Camel seems to not talk directly about outside services, products, vendors, etc. as part of its site per se. It does, though, allow

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