Questions on EHR implementation

2007-10-21 Thread Bert Verhees
ehr is a great concept, and Ron's Java-kernel is a great piece of work, the C# kernel is to, I am sure, it is build close to the source of design. I am building a Java-implementation too, based on Rong's kernel, he has solved many problems and set directions, I am now using, and extending t

Questions on EHR implementation

2007-10-22 Thread Bert Verhees
> Bert Verhees wrote: >> >> In so far, not because I like to disagree, but regrettable, many of the >> function/method-bodies in the Eiffel-code are empty. Eiffel seems merely >> to be/have been used as a kind of case-tool instead of really building >> a openehr k

Questions on EHR implementation

2007-10-22 Thread Bert Verhees
% functionally, only I have bad luck when looking at the source (looking at those 10% not ready?) I don't know, please explain to me how to find the reference Eiffel implementation source as used in the ADL-workbench. Thanks very much kind regards Bert Verhees -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Data-entry for OpenEhr

2008-04-23 Thread Bert Verhees
Hi all, I am building an application on base of an OpenEhr kernel. I would be very happy if people can give some ideas about one question I have. I don't need complete technical worked out docuemnts (although I don't mind to recieve them) But just some hints make me happy. My problem is, I am

Data-entry for OpenEhr

2008-04-23 Thread Bert Verhees
Peter Gummer schreef: > Bert Verhees wrote: > >> There is only one important step, that is, what is a good way to connect >> the data to the archetypes. Is this dADL, or better XML, or other means. >> >> Are there any ideas? >> > > Does this h

Data-entry for OpenEhr

2008-04-23 Thread Bert Verhees
Tim Cook schreef: > Hi Bert, > > [this thread may belong on the implementers list?] > > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:43 +0200, Bert Verhees wrote: > > >> I have my system ready in a way that it eats archetypes, and data >> belonging to those archetypes, and stores

Data-entry for OpenEhr

2008-04-23 Thread Bert Verhees
Tim Cook schreef: > Hi Bert, > > Please note that this is MY understanding of the reference model and is > subject to change by the expert opinion of others. > > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 16:16 +0200, Bert Verhees wrote: > >> Archetypes are in fact RM-objects, I hav

Data-entry for OpenEhr

2008-04-25 Thread Bert Verhees
Tim Cook schreef: > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 17:11 +0200, Bert Verhees wrote: > > >> I want to hand this archetype with data, for example from a webform, or >> a message interpreter to my kernel which knows what to do with it. >> > > ... > > >>

Data-entry for OpenEhr

2008-04-29 Thread Bert Verhees
Thanks Heath, I must consider your writing, and tomorrow is Queens-day, so it can take a few days before I answer Bert

{Disarmed} OpenEHR evaluation

2008-12-22 Thread Bert Verhees
> Hola Pablo, > > there have been some discussions about the demographics on this list > recently. Please have a look at the list archive > http://www.nabble.com/openEHR-f18276.html > > You can find some demographics archetypes here: > http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge/archetypes/dev/adl/openehr

{Disarmed} OpenEHR evaluation

2008-12-22 Thread Bert Verhees
> Hola Pablo, > > there have been some discussions about the demographics on this list recently. Please have a look at the list archive > http://www.nabble.com/openEHR-f18276.html > > You can find some demographics archetypes here: > http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge/archetypes/dev/adl/openehr/d

persistence

2008-01-02 Thread Bert Verhees
Thilo Schuler schreef: > Hi everybody, > > just a short note: > > I am more a front-end person (plan to start a OSS GUI project in > 2008), although I have an vested interested in a open persistence > solution, since I would like to see an end-to-end system demonstrator > based on OSS components (

persistence

2008-01-02 Thread Bert Verhees
Thilo Schuler schreef: > For openEHR I will concentrate on the GUI part. Had to investigate it > for a uni project. > > Just wanted to let everybody know about IBM DB2 9.5, which I think is > a fair, "uncrippled" offer. oh > > On Jan 2, 2008 5:18 PM, Bert V

persistence

2008-01-02 Thread Bert Verhees
Bert Verhees schreef: > Thilo Schuler schreef: >> For openEHR I will concentrate on the GUI part. Had to investigate it >> for a uni project. >> >> Just wanted to let everybody know about IBM DB2 9.5, which I think is >> a fair, "uncrippled" offer. >

persistence

2008-01-03 Thread Bert Verhees
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karsten Hilbert schreef: >> True, API persistence layer should be generic as said previously >> mentioned. Although originally it needs to be developed based on a >> reference DBMS and for this DB2 looks attractive (quick results?) on >> first sight. >

persistence

2008-01-03 Thread Bert Verhees
>> >> regards Hugh >> >> >> >> Thilo Schuler wrote: >> True, API persistence layer should be generic as said previously >> mentioned. Although originally it needs to be developed based on a >> reference DBMS and for this DB2 looks attractive (

persistence

2008-01-04 Thread Bert Verhees
Thomas Beale schreef: > Bert Verhees wrote: >> People discuss very seriuous all kind of subjects, very deeply, that is >> OK, but why do they never discuss a solution to a Persistence-layer-API? >> (not the layer itself, only the API.) >> Another thing that is never dis

persistence

2008-01-04 Thread Bert Verhees
> If one wants an implementation to happen one needs to start > one (and preferably open source it). From there one can go > back and define a sensible API between specs and > implementation which will not fall down with the next > implementation. > Exactly that is what I am doing, and to not r

persistence

2008-01-04 Thread Bert Verhees
Karsten Hilbert schreef: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:31:57PM +0100, Bert Verhees wrote: > > >> Exactly that is what I am doing, and to not reinvent wheels >> unnecessarily, >> > Good ! > > >> I am calling others to help do it. >>

EQL was: persistence

2008-01-05 Thread Bert Verhees
Tim Cook schreef: > Hi All, > > I have watched this thread with great interest. My first question is; > Why? > > Why is there such an interest in developing a specific persistence layer > API for openEHR? I think that this is an area where we should encourage > many implementations to follow the

EQL was: persistence

2008-01-05 Thread Bert Verhees
Tim Cook schreef: > Hi All, > > I have watched this thread with great interest. My first question is; > Why? > > Why is there such an interest in developing a specific persistence layer > API for openEHR? I think that this is an area where we should encourage > many implementations to follow the

EQL was: persistence

2008-01-05 Thread Bert Verhees
And the last thing I want to say about this. You changed the subject of the discussion, I do not blame you (it is called hijacking of subject), but it says something. It says that you think that the discussion I was involved should change to another discussion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_

EQL was: persistence

2008-01-05 Thread Bert Verhees
Thomas Beale schreef: > Bert Verhees wrote: > >> But is has, in my opinion nothing to do with that. Maybe when the EQL >> definition is ready to use (I don't see much of discussion about this >> subject, but maybe the EQL discussion is a private discussion?), than &

EQL was: persistence

2008-01-05 Thread Bert Verhees
Thomas Beale schreef: > Bert Verhees wrote: > >> The most important reason (amongst others) is that a defined API would >> speed up the development of more implementations, also other >> architectures could benefit from this. At this moment, there is hardly a >>

Hijacking :-) was EQL was: persistence

2008-01-05 Thread Bert Verhees
change it, but start a new one, because, it are also the messageID's which mess up. Doesn't matter for now Bert > Cheers, > > Tim > > > On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 11:22 +0100, Bert Verhees wrote: > >> And the last thing I want to say about this. >>

persistence

2008-01-05 Thread Bert Verhees
Thomas Beale schreef: > Bert Verhees wrote: > >> What I need is a strongly expressed intention to do something in a way I >> suggest. >> Serious people, not , say, pbublish your thing, and we will see. That is >> not good enough. >> >> If we have

persistence

2008-01-06 Thread Bert Verhees
Tim Cook schreef: > On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 16:59 +0100, Bert Verhees wrote: > >> Thomas Beale schreef: >> >>> Probably you need to clarify the concrete basis of this discussion from >>> your point of view. >>> >>> >

persistence

2008-01-06 Thread Bert Verhees
Karsten Hilbert schreef: > On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:05:14AM +0100, Bert Verhees wrote: > > >>> Maybe some clarification will help. Is there a place where you have >>> made your Java implementation open source and available to others for >>> assessment? >

path of ArchetypeInternalRef

2008-01-06 Thread Bert Verhees
> the paths /items[at0002] and /items[at0003] always stand for themselves. > The latter would not be able to have an internal reference to the > former, because that would imply that the latter information structure > could contain the former as a sub-structure. You can always work out > wha

persistence

2008-01-07 Thread Bert Verhees
gt; Regards > > Heath > > Heath Frankel > Product Development Manager > Ocean Informatics > > >> -Original Message- >> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- >> bounces at openehr.org] On

persistence

2008-01-07 Thread Bert Verhees
board and contribute, but > there always needs some ONE to plant the seed. > > Heath > > >> -Original Message- >> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- >> bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Bert Verhees >> Sent:

Problem building java-impl: missing acode:adl-parser:jar:1.0.5-SNAPSHOT

2008-07-20 Thread Bert Verhees
Probably is the version information in the pom.xml from adl-parser not the same as the required version in dependencies of pom.xml of adl-serializer, or you did not build adl-parser, so the required jar file does not exist on your system. Please check your pom-files and rebuild the packages. B

Problem building java-impl: missing acode:adl-parser:jar:1.0.5-SNAPSHOT

2008-07-20 Thread Bert Verhees
x27;mvn > install' for the adl-parser in there, it will build the > adl-parser-with-dependencies.jar. With that, I can then build the > adl-serializer then. > > It didn't get clear to me from the quick-start doc, that I have to do it > this way. Or is it supposed to be done lik

DADL optional rm-type

2008-07-24 Thread Bert Verhees
Hi, I wrote another message before, earlier this week, but that was addresses to the Java-list, but I now think it is a problem of specification. -- I want to know, is it in all cases possible to guess the rm-type in a dadl- construct? I ask this, because the specification says:

DADL optional rm-type

2008-07-24 Thread Bert Verhees
On Thursday 24 July 2008 17:29:41 Thomas Beale wrote: > Bert Verhees wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I wrote another message before, earlier this week, but that was addresses > > to the Java-list, but I now think it is a problem of specification. > > --

Data-entry for OpenEhr

2008-05-04 Thread Bert Verhees
> I would also like to start importing openEHR content into PatientOS in > the new few weeks. I am less concerned with the data at this point, > rather I would like to be able to take a template (perhaps initially > just archetypes and I will combine them internally to be larger forms) > import

Data-entry for OpenEhr

2008-05-02 Thread Bert Verhees
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Ocean is also developing the idea of a Template Data Schema, which will be > published as a draft on openEHR in the coming months. This does provide a > specific XML schema for a template (or combined collect of archetypes) where > the XML element

Please respond by Nov. 5th: Known Free/Open Source EHR/EMR Deployment Count.

2008-11-04 Thread Bert Verhees
Tim Cook schreef: > On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 14:35 -0600, Ignacio Valdes wrote: > >> Action is needed >> on your part to answer the question: If open source is so great why is >> no one using it? >> > > There is a very simple answer. The current crop of offerings doesn't > solve the problem

Please respond by Nov. 5th: Known Free/Open Source EHR/EMR Deployment Count.

2008-11-05 Thread Bert Verhees
Tim Cook schreef: > hi Bert, > > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 09:03 +0100, Bert Verhees wrote: > >>> >>> >> Closed source doesn't solve the interoperability-problem either, at >> least it didn't last twenty years, but it is use

Please respond by Nov. 5th: Known Free/Open Source EHR/EMR Deployment Count.

2008-11-06 Thread Bert Verhees
Thomas Beale schreef: > I also don't think that the metric means much, but for the record, there > are 4 million patients in an openEHR server (v0.95) in Australia, some > thousands (ultimate design vlume 1,000,000 EHRs) in the Netherlands, and > probably some thousands in Brazil - that I know d

Please respond by Friday Nov 7th: Deployment, Version, PATIENTS IN SYSTEM.

2008-11-06 Thread Bert Verhees
Gerard Freriks schreef: > Perhaps you have not noticed > > The question was about Open Source and not about commercial > proprietary ehr systems Sorry Gerard, there were more closed systems discussed under this topic. > > Gf > > Sent from my iPhone Very small keyboard? Bert

Please respond by Friday Nov 7th: Deployment, Version, PATIENTS IN SYSTEM.

2008-11-06 Thread Bert Verhees
Gerard Freriks schreef: > Bert, > > What is the definition of 'closed system'? Excuse me, I meant "closed source", typo. Thomas discussed the Ocean system, which is (as he said himself) closed source, which is (in my opinion) a commercial proprietary system. There is nothing wrong with that, but,

How to start an application with openEHR

2008-09-12 Thread Bert Verhees
Hi Mathias, there are a few things missing, you have to write them yourself, or find someone who shares his work. To keep it short for now, you need a persistence-layer, in which you can store the RM-objects. There are many ways to build this, hibernate, XML, object-database You also need

10 Dutch hospitals choose for EPD from Google or Microsoft

2008-09-12 Thread Bert Verhees
> In this case, we use the API of Google Health Data to send or retrieve data > so the openEHR EHR Service API isn't needed. Well, this really isn't the > best mailing list for this type of discussion, let's continue this on > technical or implementer list. > I think you are right, this must be do

10 Dutch hospitals choose for EPD from Google or Microsoft

2008-09-14 Thread Bert Verhees
All information below is published in the Dutch press, specially, the always good informed website on health ICT: Qure (http://www.qure.nl). Normally, I don't repeat press-messages on this or any other mailinglist, but this looks very important to many of us, who are working on a OpenEhr-impleme

10 Dutch hospitals choose for EPD from Google or Microsoft

2008-09-14 Thread Bert Verhees
Ian McNicoll schreef: > Hi Seref, > > You said: > "What about the legal consequences? For example: I can remember being > told my multiple sources that it is not legal to store healthcare data > of a UK citizen outside of UK." > > I am not aware of any law restricting the storage of healthcare data

10 Dutch hospitals choose for EPD from Google or Microsoft

2008-09-14 Thread Bert Verhees
Seref Arikan schreef: > Hi Berth, > Please let me add my set of questions to yours, for I have not been > able to figure out the overall scheme of the discussed setup. Maybe > its my fault, and I apologize in advance if I've missed the answers in > the discussion or on the web. > What is the ext

possible error small error in BaseTypes.xsd (version 1.0.1)

2009-04-11 Thread Bert Verhees
According to the documentation (http://www.openehr.org/releases/1.0.1/architecture/rm/data_types_im.pdf) should be marked abstract. Bert

possible error small error in BaseTypes.xsd (version 1.0.1)

2009-04-14 Thread Bert Verhees
; From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- > > bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Bert Verhees > > Sent: Saturday, 11 April 2009 7:00 PM > > To: openehr-technical at openehr.org > > Subject: possible error small error in BaseTypes.xsd (vers

possible error small error in BaseTypes.xsd (version 1.0.1)

2009-04-15 Thread Bert Verhees
Op dinsdag 14-04-2009 om 14:48 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Thomas Beale: > Bert, > > can you raise this on the openEHR SPEC project tracker on Jira. Sorry Thomas, maybe it is a question of authorization, but Specification is not offered to me in Jira to add an Issue (the other projects are) B

RM Versions

2009-02-03 Thread Bert Verhees
> *We thought about this a number of times over the last few years. The > problem is that many archetypes are completely compatible with multiple > versions of the reference model, because changes occur in other parts of > the reference model. So marking an archetype with "RM version 1.0" > do

RM Versions

2009-02-03 Thread Bert Verhees
Thomas Beale schreef: > Bert Verhees wrote: > >>> *We thought about this a number of times over the last few years. The >>> problem is that many archetypes are completely compatible with multiple >>> versions of the reference model, because changes occur in

RM Versions

2009-02-04 Thread Bert Verhees
>> Exactly what I mean, we must agree, which part of the version-number >> indicates a possible incompatibility concernig archetypes/RM-version. >> Bert >> > > Don't try to get too complicated. Just have a list that states that > this archetype has been validated against these RM versions. I

"Future-proof" at risk! was: RM Versions

2009-02-09 Thread Bert Verhees
> > Let's say RM=['1.0.1'] > > (okay so I apologize for my Python syntax, but it's easy to read). > > Second: An archetype is edited (whether it's version changes or not) > against a tool using RM 1.0.2. > > The RM = is now RM=['1.0.1,'1.0.2] > > As I wrote before, if the choice will be that

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-25 Thread Bert Verhees
> yes - but to do this, they need to be working with templates. > Archetypes on their own don't make sense as direct data-capture models. Thomas, I wonder why this is, maybe you can explain this or point to an explanation. Thanks Bert

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-26 Thread Bert Verhees
>> hope this clarifies Thanks, Thomas, it clarifies why archetypes do not suffice in application-context for data entry/presentation. For the moment, we can live without templates (leave it to form-developers to define where to use a specific archetype-item), or fabricate template-definition for i

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-15 Thread Bert Verhees
Williamtfgoossen at cs.com schreef: > In a message dated 14-3-2009 17:23:18 W. Europe Standard Time, > caultonpos at gmail.com writes: > >> How many more types of archetypes are we envisioning to support? > > > I think the tools need to support ANY archetype that represents valid > content in hea

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-15 Thread Bert Verhees
Williamtfgoossen at cs.com schreef: > In a message dated 14-3-2009 17:23:18 W. Europe Standard Time, > caultonpos at gmail.com writes: > >> How many more types of archetypes are we envisioning to support? > > > I think the tools need to support ANY archetype that represents valid > content in hea

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-16 Thread Bert Verhees
Heath Frankel schreef: > > Bert, > > The Ocean Archetype Editor was the first Archetype Editor written some > 6+ years ago. It was implemented to support only EHR archetypes in a > way that these RM types where implemented explicitly within the Editor > providing the specific capability for cli

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-16 Thread Bert Verhees
Sam Heard schreef: > > Hi Bert and all > > > > The demographic model was proposed a long time ago and is meant to > support a demographic service -- like a PMI. These archetypes are not > in the EHR. The EHR and demographic service can share archetypes like > data_structures, clusters and elem

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-16 Thread Bert Verhees
Thomas Beale schreef: > Williamtfgoossen at cs.com wrote: > >> Sam, >> >> this below - demographics not relevant in the EHR is like the most >> confusing comment ever I heard from you. >> >> About whom are we going to create a EHR then? If it is not possible to >> have the individuals name, id

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-20 Thread Bert Verhees
Sam, I often brought this subject up, maybe five times last year, the answer differed from, "We'll add demographic archetypes to the ArchetypeEditor within a year" to now carefully stating in a direction that demographic archetypes will loose the relevance. I know Sam, the latter is your positi

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-22 Thread Bert Verhees
tc should be modelled > in the EHR Model (though again, in reality, there may be some local > variation in implementation.) > > Cheers, > > Ian > > > > Ian > > > Dr Ian McNicoll > office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 > mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 >

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-22 Thread Bert Verhees
Bert Verhees schreef: > Ian McNicoll schreef: >> Hi Bert, >> >> Just for clarification, the work I have been doing in adding >> demographics archetype support to the Ocean Editor is a personal >> project, intended for the openEHR community and not an Ocean funde

Folders in Demographic Items

2009-05-06 Thread Bert Verhees
Hi, I am reading the document http://www.openehr.org/releases/1.0.1/architecture/rm/common_im.pdf In there, Chapter 5, page 39 I read: "It provides a means of versioning FOLDER structures over time, which is useful in the EHR, Demographics service or anywhere else where Folders are used to group

Folders in Demographic Items

2009-05-06 Thread Bert Verhees
hreef Thomas Beale: > > Hi Bert, > > Although it is not explicitly stated, you could easily use a Folder > directory in a demographic service that was managing Party objects. > The Folders are just contained in their own VERSIONED_FOLDER object. > > - thomas beale >

Folders in Demographic Items

2009-05-06 Thread Bert Verhees
> > that would be what I would do; the current spec does not say how to do > this. I don't even know if it is useful in the demographic service ;-) It is just that it is mentioned in the specifications of the reference model, like I quoted, two emails ago. So there is, (as I understand what you

Folders in Demographic Items

2009-05-06 Thread Bert Verhees
Bert Tim Cook schreef: > Hi Bert, > > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 14:46 +0200, Bert Verhees wrote: > >>> that would be what I would do; the current spec does not say how to do >>> this. I don't even know if it is useful in the demographic service ;-) >>>

informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-11-27 Thread Bert Verhees
An international airport/train station nearby would be good, it saves days of traveling. Bert Op 27-11-09 17:25, Thomas Beale schreef: > > This is an initial informal question to the community about interest > in an openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in > Europe. Possibly ac

informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-11-29 Thread Bert Verhees
Greetings, > Mikael > > > From: openehr-technical-bounces at > chime.ucl.ac.uk<mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk> > [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bert > Verhees > Sent: den 27 november 200

Problems running Release 1.0.1 of openEHR Java Reference Implementation

2009-10-02 Thread Bert Verhees
It is a library, you should write your own software to run it. There should to be Junit-tests in the repository, you can look at them for examples how to use the library good luck Bert Op vrijdag 02-10-2009 om 10:45 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Paul Linehan: > Hi to all from Trinity College Dubl

Documentation Desparation

2009-09-25 Thread Bert Verhees
Anyone already mentioned DocBook? (I am sorry if I mention it again if someone already did) It is an Oasis-standard. Here a list of others who use it: http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/WhoUsesDocBook People can format the layout as they like in any file-format they like. Eventually a standaard PDF c

ArchetypeNodeId of an archetypeslot

2010-08-22 Thread Bert Verhees
, because an RM-object can only have one archetypeNodeID. SO, please, help, a link to an explaining text somewhere will also do. Thanks very much, and kind regards Bert Verhees

ArchetypeNodeId of an archetypeslot

2010-08-23 Thread Bert Verhees
sociate, CHIME, University College London > openEHR Archetype Editorial Group > Member BCS Primary Health Care SG Group www.phcsg.org > <http://www.phcsg.org> / BCS Health Scotland > > > > On 22 August 2010 13:04, Bert Verhees <mailto:bert.verhees at rosa.

ArchetypeNodeId of an archetypeslot

2010-08-23 Thread Bert Verhees
Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, University College London > openEHR Archetype Editorial Group > Member BCS Primary Health Care SG Group www.phcsg.org > <http://www.phcsg.org> / BCS Health Scotland > > > > On 23 August 2010 11:51, Bert Verhees <mailto:be

use_node

2010-08-27 Thread Bert Verhees
Please allow me a small question, I think, just for formality reasons. Is a archetypeInternalRef always pointing to a node representing a Locatable? I haven't seen other way, but it is not explicitly mentioned in the ADL 1.4 specs Thanks Bert

use_node

2010-08-30 Thread Bert Verhees
e_node path would need to be a valid unique archetype > path within the archetype. > > Regards > > Heath > > >> -Original Message- >> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- >> bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of

Question about the specs about a reference to a version-container in Actor

2010-02-02 Thread Bert Verhees
Hi all, About the Actor-class which has "roles" which are a set of PartyRef's containing a link to version-containers having stored the role, instead of directly linking to the role itself. This is inconsistent to the support-specs, where a party-ref is described as being a link to a identify a p

Fw: Interoperability with HL7

2010-02-10 Thread Bert Verhees
> It is imperative that DCM's are absolutely free to use and in the > public domain. CEN/ISO and ANSI assure that with the standardisation > IP rules in general. > DCM's must be absolutely free from IP problems, well maintained in a > formal, flexible, organisation, owned and controlled by all tha

Interoperability with HL7

2010-02-10 Thread Bert Verhees
Gerard, It is possible to reject non-free archetypes and replace them by free archetypes. We have seen this mechanism many times, mostly the open standard wins, even when it is technically slightly inferior, the openness is much more important. Than the non-free-snake will often byte its own tail

Interoperability with HL7

2010-02-10 Thread Bert Verhees
Op 10-02-10 14:32, Gerard Freriks schreef: > Bert, > > There is only one answer. > Hospitals we talk with have problems with the way IP is handled by > openEHR. > IP owned by two organisations (One UCL and the other Ocean > Informatics) they consider not PUBLIC. What is the problem, and on what is

Interoperability with HL7

2010-02-10 Thread Bert Verhees
Where you sleeping that you did not think about these urgent IP-questions you bring up here? A strange story. regards Bert Verhees -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20100210/cf72bd20/attachment.html>

IP on OpenEHR (revised version of this message, sorry for that)

2010-02-10 Thread Bert Verhees
you discovered that you cannot use it? That you have to pay? Where you sleeping that you did not think about these urgent IP-questions you bring up here? A strange story. regards Bert Verhees -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.

existence and assumed value

2010-09-20 Thread Bert Verhees
s that assumed values are most usually used in state, not > data (e.g. assumed value of blood pressure position is sitting). > > Heath > > >> -Original Message- >> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- >> bounce

existence and assumed value

2010-09-21 Thread Bert Verhees
are most usually used in state, not >> data (e.g. assumed value of blood pressure position is sitting). >> >> Heath >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- >>> bounces at

existence and assumed value

2010-09-19 Thread Bert Verhees
Hi all, I noticed that the JAVA ADL-parser marks a CObject existence as required if it is not specified in ADL If there is also an assumed value specified, then this is, in my opinion conflicting, because the function of the assumed value is to use it when there an attribute is not used (page 21 A

Reverse Relations

2011-04-19 Thread Bert Verhees
Hi, Excuse for the bit complex text below, I don't know how to say it more simple I have a small problem with the way ReverseRelationships are connected to Party in the Demographic RM. Maybe my problem is because of my misunderstanding. The problem is not only conceptual, but it also causes p

Reverse Relations

2011-04-29 Thread Bert Verhees
Thanks, Thomas, for your reply. >> The problem is that ReverseRelationships are a Set of LocatableRef. >> This means that the PartyRelationship has to be stored before it can >> be added to a party ReverseRelationship list. >> The PartyRelationship has to be stored because LocatableRef takes a

Reverse Relations

2011-04-29 Thread Bert Verhees
Op 29-04-11 03:03, Heath Frankel schreef: > > I agree with Thomas, the reverse relationships should be derived from > the forward relationships. The RM doesn't necessarily need to be > reflected in the persistence model. > Thanks Heath, this is indeed a pitfall, trying to reflect the RM. I som

Should this list receive notifications for changes to ADL reference archetypes & schemas?

2011-01-13 Thread Bert Verhees
Op 13-01-11 15:44, Tim Cook schreef: > I choose the third one. There should be a mailing list for the > development of ADL and tools. I agree, except I do not want to receive them at all. I never read SVN-information. Just a notification when a release is delivered is fine for me. I think anyway

Archetype Editor (whishes)

2011-03-08 Thread Bert Verhees
Just for considering, It would be a nice thing if GENERIC_ENTRY was an option in the Archetype-Editor (also demographics, but that is an old discussion) Thanks, Bert Verhees

Archetype Editor (whishes)

2011-03-10 Thread Bert Verhees
Op 08-03-11 16:49, Diego Bosc? schreef: > You can define openEHR demographic archetypes with LinkEHR Thanks, I try it tomorrow, on a copy of my Eclipse (on Linux) installation, because a few days ago I destroyed an Eclipse-installation by installing a CDA-plugin in it. Now I am carefully I let

null value of Element

2011-03-10 Thread Bert Verhees
Hi, I have an archetype with following Element ELEMENT[at0033] occurrences matches {0..1} matches {-- Condition Status value matches { DV_TEXT matches {*} } } I noticed that it is not possible te create an Element-instance with data-value null, because my own Object-validator

future ADL-versions

2011-03-10 Thread Bert Verhees
Hi, I am sorry, but I am to busy to read all the discussions on future ADL-versions. So, now I have a small question, which possible is already explained, Is it possible to write conditional constraints in future ADL? The question is about implementing care-protocol into an archetype. For exam

future ADL-versions

2011-03-18 Thread Bert Verhees
being finalised, but the general syntax will look > like Xpath and the object model will be what you would expect from that. > > - thomas > > On 10/03/2011 15:48, Bert Verhees wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am sorry, but I am to busy to read all the discussions on future >&g

future ADL-versions

2011-03-23 Thread Bert Verhees
finalised, so don't depend on it; >>> however it is the left hand side that matters, i.e. >>> $date_of_birth >>> * environmental values, like >>>o $current_date >>>o $current_time >>&

future ADL-versions

2011-03-23 Thread Bert Verhees
close to understanding of your criticism? Bert Op 23-03-11 12:07, Seref Arikan schreef: > Also look at heartbeat is the problem here. My criticism stands, for > every case your rules/guidelines go beyond data. > > Best Regards > Seref > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:05 AM, B

future ADL-versions

2011-03-23 Thread Bert Verhees
Sounds reasonable, thanks Bert Op 23-03-11 13:00, Thomas Beale schreef: > On 23/03/2011 11:41, Bert Verhees wrote: >> The idea is to implement guideline/rules etc in Archetypes. >> In this way you can force software to look at some conditions if some >> other conditions are

Tools for collaborative working

2011-09-16 Thread Bert Verhees
My two cents. I wouldn't trust software which is not open source. You cannot judge if it does its job well, especcially in long lasting use, like f.e. a database, how do you know if it still works if your table reach the million records and the table is 127 fields wide with on the second field

Tools for collaborative working

2011-09-17 Thread Bert Verhees
On 16-09-11 19:17, Thomas Beale wrote: > (Torvalds more or less still says that SVN is pretty hopeless, and in > some ways he is right, depending on what your requirements are) Torvalds even said that he passionately hated CVS, which he had to use at Transmeta. I feel the need to explain why ope

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