Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] thinking additional tags

2015-07-09 Thread Zane Bitter
On 08/07/15 18:12, Steve Baker wrote: On 09/07/15 04:39, Zane Bitter wrote: On 08/07/15 09:03, Sean Dague wrote: Personally, I'm running out of steam on tags for this cycle, but Zane brought up a good point in the TC meeting yesterday, which was that it would be nice to have tags for criteria

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Question about retrieving resource_list from ResourceGroup

2015-07-01 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/06/15 15:14, Hongbin Lu wrote: Hi team, I would like to start my question by using a sample template: heat_template_version: 2014-10-16 parameters: count: type: number default: 5 removal_list: type: comma_delimited_list default: [] resources:

[openstack-dev] [GBP][Heat] Group-based Policy plug-in for Heat

2015-06-17 Thread Zane Bitter
Every day I get an email about broken dependencies for the group-based policy Heat plugin in Fedora (openstack-heat-gbp), because the version of Heat it depends on is capped. Two points: 1) Would whoever maintains that package (Bob?) please fix it :) 2) Why was this plugin not submitted to

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] [fuel] more collaboration request

2015-06-12 Thread Zane Bitter
This thread kind of deteriorated a bit (though it looks like it's hopefully recovering), so I'd just like to add some observations. What we have here is a classic case of a long-running fork, with all that that entails. In this case the fork is a public one, but that actually makes very

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] grenade with external plugins for the big tent - how to use

2015-06-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 11/06/15 09:38, Kyle Mestery wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: Yesterday we landed the infrastructure for Grenade external plugins - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185050/ The first user of this is the Heat project,

[openstack-dev] Standard way to indicate a partial blueprint implementation?

2015-06-04 Thread Zane Bitter
Ever since we established[1] a format for including metadata about bugs in Git commit messages that included a 'Partial-Bug' tag, people have been looking for a way to do the equivalent for partial blueprint implementations. A non-exhaustive search of a small number of projects reveals at

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Puppet] Package updates strategy

2015-05-28 Thread Zane Bitter
On 28/05/15 03:35, Jan Provaznik wrote: On 05/28/2015 01:10 AM, Steve Baker wrote: On 28/05/15 10:54, Richard Raseley wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: Steve is working on a patch to allow package-based updates of overcloud nodes[1] using the distro's package manager (yum in the case of RDO

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar][all] Zaqar will stay... Lots of work ahead

2015-05-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 27/05/15 12:42, Clint Byrum wrote: == Crazy idea section == One thing I never had a chance to discuss with any of the Zaqar devs that I would find interesting is an email-only backend for Zaqar. Basically make Zaqar an HTTP-to-email gateway. There are quite a few hyper-scale options for

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Package updates strategy

2015-05-27 Thread Zane Bitter
Steve is working on a patch to allow package-based updates of overcloud nodes[1] using the distro's package manager (yum in the case of RDO, but conceivable apt in others). Note we're talking exclusively about minor updates, not version-to-version upgrades here. Dan mentioned at the summit

Re: [openstack-dev] meeting with the zaqar team at summit; my notes

2015-05-22 Thread Zane Bitter
multi-tenant capable and authenticated (if it's so safe why not use the same RabbitMQ as all the other services?), but it would be less of an 'immediate uninstall' case. cheers, Zane. Thanks, Kevin * * *From:* Zane Bitter

Re: [openstack-dev] meeting with the zaqar team at summit; my notes

2015-05-22 Thread Zane Bitter
On 22/05/15 11:48, Amrith Kumar wrote: I’m posting this to the mailing list to summarize my notes from a meeting at 5pm yesterday at Summit relative to Zaqar and lightweight multi-tenant messaging and how it may be applicable to a number of projects. I’ll begin by saying these are not ‘minutes’

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] [Zaqar] [Keystone] SSH workflow action

2015-05-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 14/05/15 23:38, Adam Young wrote: So the mechanisms are there. In the short term we'd need some cross-project co-operation to define a system through which we can do this across projects (i.e. Murano or any other service can create a user and have Zaqar authorise it for listening on a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] [Zaqar] [Keystone] SSH workflow action

2015-05-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/05/15 11:57, Adam Young wrote: It's kind of unfortunate IMHO that the default policy.json files tend to give all users access to non-admin APIs, rather than requiring a specific role (like Member). Working on that. Come to my policy session! This one, I assume:

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Zane Bitter
On 14/05/15 10:39, Geoff Arnold wrote: +1 There seems to be a significant disconnect between Heat, Horizon and Keystone on the subject of multi-region configurations, and the documentation isn’t helpful. At the very least, it would be useful if discussions at the summit could result in a decent

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Zane Bitter
offers support for dealing with multiple regions within a single cloud. It also offers an option to switch between multiple different clouds using an option unfortunately called AVAILABLE_REGIONS, which is a total misnomer. - ZB Geoff On May 14, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action

2015-05-13 Thread Zane Bitter
is restricted to be authenticated to specific API URL like GET /v1/queues/queue-id/ Thanks Gosha On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov mailto:kevin@pnnl.gov wrote: +1 From: Zane Bitter [zbit...@redhat.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action

2015-05-13 Thread Zane Bitter
. Sincerely yours, Stan Lagun Principal Software Engineer @ Mirantis mailto:sla...@mirantis.com On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.com mailto:rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: Zane, Fully agree with you vision here. On 12 May 2015, at 07:15, Zane Bitter

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][zaqar] Trove and Zaqar integration. Summit working session

2015-05-13 Thread Zane Bitter
On 11/05/15 05:49, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 08/05/15 00:45 -0700, Nikhil Manchanda wrote: 3) The trove-guest-agent is in vm. it is connected by taskmanager by rabbitmq. We designed it. But is there some prectise to do this? how to make the vm be connected in vm-network and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] [Zaqar] [Keystone] SSH workflow action

2015-05-12 Thread Zane Bitter
all of the many groups who need it so that they can prioritise the work appropriately :) cheers, Zane. Thanks Gosha On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov mailto:kevin@pnnl.gov wrote: +1 From: Zane Bitter

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] [Mistral] SSH workflow action

2015-05-11 Thread Zane Bitter
Hello! This looks like a perfect soapbox from which to talk about my favourite issue ;) You're right about the ssh idea, for the reasons discussed related to networking and a few more that weren't (e.g. users shouldn't have to and generally don't want to give their private SSH keys to cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][ceilometer] autoscaling

2015-05-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 06/05/15 08:25, ICHIBA Sara wrote: hey there, Please I wanna know if their is anyway I can have cpu, ram and network meters for each VM returned by ceilometer to heat for autoscaling tasks? In advance, thank you for your response, Sara The openstack-dev list is for discussing future

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] TC Communications planning

2015-05-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 06/05/15 09:13, Anne Gentle wrote: Hi all, In the interest of communicating sooner rather than later, I wanted to write a new thread to say that Flavio Percoco and I are going to work on a TC communications plan as co-chairs of a TC communications working group. I think we can find a happy

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack/Resource updated_at conventions

2015-04-28 Thread Zane Bitter
On 28/04/15 03:56, Steven Hardy wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 06:41:52PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: On 27/04/15 13:38, Steven Hardy wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 04:46:20PM +0100, Steven Hardy wrote: AFAICT there's two options: 1. Update the stack.Stack so we store now at every transition

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack/Resource updated_at conventions

2015-04-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 27/04/15 13:38, Steven Hardy wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 04:46:20PM +0100, Steven Hardy wrote: AFAICT there's two options: 1. Update the stack.Stack so we store now at every transition (e.g in state_set) 2. Stop trying to explicitly control updated_at, and just allow the oslo

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Question for the TC candidates

2015-04-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 24/04/15 09:00, Ed Leafe wrote: I'm not sure what you see as the difference between the end users and the operators of OpenStack, because in my mind they are one and the same. I don't consider the people using, say, public cloud services to be OpenStack end users, because ultimately they

Re: [openstack-dev] Please stop reviewing code while asking questions

2015-04-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 24/04/15 07:21, Amrith Kumar wrote: Julien, We had a similar discussion within Trove several months ago and agreed to a convention that if you have a question, that should not warrant a -1 unless, as you indicate there's a strong reason to believe that the code is wrong and the question

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Question for the TC candidates

2015-04-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 24/04/15 09:52, Ed Leafe wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 04/24/2015 08:30 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: I'm not sure what you see as the difference between the end users and the operators of OpenStack, because in my mind they are one and the same. I don't consider

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Call for adoption (or exclusion?)

2015-04-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 24/04/15 20:00, Joe Gordon wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov mailto:kevin@pnnl.gov wrote: Notification might be a good way to integrate with nova. Individual tenants might want to do things as vm's come up/down, etc. Right now, you need

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Call for adoption (or exclusion?)

2015-04-24 Thread Zane Bitter
On 24/04/15 19:02, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, I'd like my first action as Zaqar's PTL to be based on reflections and transparency with regards to what our past has been, to what

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Question for the TC candidates

2015-04-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/04/15 12:14, Chris Dent wrote: This might be a bit presumptuous, but why not give it a try... Not at all, we should *strongly* encourage people to ask questions of the candidates. In fact, I think we should encourage everyone to contribute to the discussion, not just the candidates.

[openstack-dev] TC Candidacy

2015-04-22 Thread Zane Bitter
Hello Stackists, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the OpenStack Technical Committee. I'm running because I don't think that the diversity of perspectives amongst TC members reflects the diversity of our community. We're fortunate to have a few people whose brilliance often transcends the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova-docker][ceilometer][heat] Autoscaling docker in openstack

2015-04-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 17/04/15 10:11, VACHNIS, AVI (AVI) wrote: Hi, @Ashish, if the limitation you've mentioned for #1 still exists, I join your question how heat auto-scale-group may work w/o ceilometer being able to collect docker metrics? Yeah, you're correct. Approach #2 has exactly the same problem as

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] is cloudwatch really deprecated?

2015-04-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 17/04/15 13:54, Matt Fischer wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com mailto:zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 17/04/15 12:46, Matt Fischer wrote: The wiki for Using Cloudwatch states: This feature will be deprecated or removed during

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] moving sqlite migration scripts to tests

2015-04-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/04/15 04:05, Anant Patil wrote: Hi, Sometime back we had a discussion on IRC regarding sqlite migration scripts. Since sqlite is mostly used for testing, we were thinking about moving the sqlite migration related code to tests folder and keep the migrate_repo sane (with only production

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] is cloudwatch really deprecated?

2015-04-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 17/04/15 12:46, Matt Fischer wrote: The wiki for Using Cloudwatch states: This feature will be deprecated or removed during the Havana cycle as we move to using Ceilometer as a metric/alarm service instead. [1] However it seems that cloudwatch is still being developed. It doesn't seem

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] autoscaling and load balancers

2015-04-09 Thread Zane Bitter
On 08/04/15 21:51, Miguel Grinberg wrote: Hi Angus, Regarding this: As Zane suggested, you should think of autoscaling as been in a different service. It's not that I can't see your point of view. I can imagine an autoscaling service. I agree with you guys that if we had that, then none of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] how to send messages (and events) to our users

2015-04-09 Thread Zane Bitter
On 06/04/15 22:55, Angus Salkeld wrote: Hi all For quite some time we (Heat team) have wanted to be able to send messages to our users (by user I do not mean the Operator, but the User that is interacting with the client). What do I mean by user messages, and how do they differ from our

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] autoscaling and load balancers

2015-04-08 Thread Zane Bitter
On 07/04/15 22:02, Miguel Grinberg wrote: Hi, The OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup resource is somewhat limited at this time, because when a scaling even occurs it does not notify dependent resources, such as a load balancer, that the pool of instances has changed. As Thomas mentioned, the

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] autoscaling and load balancers

2015-04-08 Thread Zane Bitter
On 08/04/15 18:03, Miguel Grinberg wrote: Here is where we disagree. In my opinion this is broken functionality. It's not broken functionality, it's functionality that never existed. Spontaneous stack updates are just not part of the CloudFormation model, and they've never been a part of

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Heat] Overcloud software updates and ResourceGroups

2015-04-07 Thread Zane Bitter
On 07/04/15 05:13, Steven Hardy wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 06:31:39PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: A few of us have been looking for a way to perform software updates to servers in a TripleO Heat/Puppet-based overcloud that avoids an impedance mismatch with Heat concepts and how Heat runs its

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Heat] Overcloud software updates and ResourceGroups

2015-04-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 03/04/15 01:29, Giulio Fidente wrote: hi there, thanks for sharing this, I have a On 04/03/2015 12:31 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: A few of us have been looking for a way to perform software updates to servers in a TripleO Heat/Puppet-based overcloud [...] Here's a trivial example of what

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Heat] Overcloud software updates and ResourceGroups

2015-04-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 02/04/15 20:31, Fox, Kevin M wrote: I'm not sure how to feel about this... Its clever... That's... unfortunate ;) Ideally this would sound like something that is a natural fit for Heat's data model. The reason it's not is that config management tools like Puppet are less sophisticated

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Heat] Overcloud software updates and ResourceGroups

2015-04-02 Thread Zane Bitter
A few of us have been looking for a way to perform software updates to servers in a TripleO Heat/Puppet-based overcloud that avoids an impedance mismatch with Heat concepts and how Heat runs its workflow. As many talented TripleO-ers who have gone before can probably testify, that's

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat delete woes in Juno

2015-03-30 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/03/15 15:30, Georgy Okrokvertskhov wrote: I attached an example of the template which is hanging right now in my Juno environment. I believe it hangs because of floating ip stuff and the way how it is attached to a VM. It is autogenerated, so please don't be disturbed by strange resource

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Network name as a Server properties

2015-03-30 Thread Zane Bitter
On 30/03/15 03:51, BORTMAN, Limor (Limor) wrote: Hi, I noticed the we can't use network name under OS::Neutron::Port (only network_id) as a valid neutron property, and I was wondering why? IIRC it was something weird about how python-neutronclient worked at the time. I expected it to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat delete woes in Juno

2015-03-26 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/03/15 15:56, Matt Fischer wrote: We don't have heat stack-abandon enabled. It's marked as a preview feature, have you had any issues? It's fairly safe for this use case. If it's important for you that you don't lose track of your resources and you want to adopt them again later, it's a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Decoupling Heat integration tests from Heat tree

2015-03-26 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/03/15 10:38, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: Hi all, following IRC discussion here is a summary of what I propose can be done in this regard, in the order of increased decoupling: 1) make a separate requirements.txt for integration tests and modify the tox job to use it. The code of these

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][congress] Stack lifecycle plugpoint as an enabler for cloud provider's services

2015-03-20 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/03/15 06:17, VACHNIS, AVI (AVI) wrote: Hi, I'm looking at this interesting blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/stack-lifecycle-plugpoint and I hope you can easily clarify some things to me. I see the following statements related to this BP: * [in problem description

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] vnic_type in OS::Neutron::Port

2015-03-20 Thread Zane Bitter
On 20/03/15 14:33, Rob Pothier (rpothier) wrote: Hi All, It was brought to my attention that the recent changes with the vnic_type possibly should not include the colon in the property value. In the earlier versions of the review the colon was not in the property, and was appended later.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Common library for shared code

2015-03-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/03/15 16:38, Ben Nemec wrote: On 03/13/2015 05:53 AM, Jan Provaznik wrote: On 03/10/2015 05:53 PM, James Slagle wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Jan Provazník jprov...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, it would make sense to have a library for the code shared by Tuskar UI and CLI (I mean

Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum][Heat] Expression of Bay Status

2015-03-10 Thread Zane Bitter
On 09/03/15 23:47, Angus Salkeld wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Magnum Team, In the following review, we have the start of a discussion about how to tackle bay status:

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Unknown resource OS::Heat::ScaledResource

2015-03-10 Thread Zane Bitter
On 10/03/15 12:26, Manickam, Kanagaraj wrote: Hi, I observed in one of the patch mentioned below, OS::Heat::ScaledResource is reported as unknown, could anyone help here to resolve the issue. Thanks.

Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

2015-03-10 Thread Zane Bitter
On 10/03/15 12:29, Russell Bryant wrote: I feel that we're at a very vulnerable part of this transition. We've abolished the incubation process and integrated release. We've established a fairly low bar for new projects [2]. However, we have not yet approved*any* tags other than the one

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Resources owned by a project/tenant are not cleaned up after that project is deleted from keystone

2015-02-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/02/15 19:15, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com mailto:zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 25/02/15 15:37, Joe Gordon wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Resources owned by a project/tenant are not cleaned up after that project is deleted from keystone

2015-02-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/02/15 15:37, Joe Gordon wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: A few inline comments and a general point How do we handle scenarios like volumes when we have a per-component janitor rather than a single co-ordinator

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Changing expression delimiters in Mistral DSL

2015-02-18 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/02/15 16:06, Dmitri Zimine wrote: 2) Use functions, like Heat HOT or TOSCA: HOT templates and TOSCA doesn’t seem to have a concept of typed variables to borrow from (please correct me if I missed it). But they have functions: function: { function_name: {foo: [parameter1, parameter 2],

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 03/02/15 14:12, Clint Byrum wrote: The visible change in making things parallel was minimal. In talking about convergence, it's become clear that users can and should expect something radically different when they issue stack updates. I'd love to say that it can be done to just bind

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Add extraroutes support to neutron routers

2015-02-05 Thread Zane Bitter
On 05/02/15 12:23, James Denton wrote: Hello all, Regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/router-properties-object Does anyone know if there are plans to implement this functionality in an upcoming release? Unlikely - unfortunately the Neutron API for extra routes makes it

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] operators vs users for choosing convergence engine

2015-02-03 Thread Zane Bitter
On 02/02/15 19:52, Steve Baker wrote: A spec has been raised to add a config option to allow operators to choose whether to use the new convergence engine for stack operations. For some context you should read the spec first [1] Rather than doing this, I would like to propose the following: I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Keystone] Native keystone resources in Heat

2015-02-02 Thread Zane Bitter
On 30/01/15 02:19, Thomas Spatzier wrote: From: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com To: openstack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 29/01/2015 17:47 Subject: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Keystone] Native keystone resources in Heat I got a question today about creating

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence Phase 1 implementation plan

2015-02-02 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/01/15 19:04, Angus Salkeld wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com mailto:zbit...@redhat.com wrote: I'm also prepared to propose specs for all of these _if_ people think that would be helpful. I see three options here: - Propose 18 fairly

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Keystone] Native keystone resources in Heat

2015-01-30 Thread Zane Bitter
On 30/01/15 05:20, Steven Hardy wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:31:17PM -0500, Zane Bitter wrote: On 29/01/15 12:03, Steven Hardy wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:41:36AM -0500, Zane Bitter wrote: IIUC keystone now allows you to add users to a domain that is otherwise backed by a read-only

[openstack-dev] [Heat][Keystone] Native keystone resources in Heat

2015-01-29 Thread Zane Bitter
I got a question today about creating keystone users/roles/tenants in Heat templates. We currently support creating users via the AWS::IAM::User resource, but we don't have a native equivalent. IIUC keystone now allows you to add users to a domain that is otherwise backed by a read-only

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Keystone] Native keystone resources in Heat

2015-01-29 Thread Zane Bitter
On 29/01/15 12:03, Steven Hardy wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:41:36AM -0500, Zane Bitter wrote: IIUC keystone now allows you to add users to a domain that is otherwise backed by a read-only backend (i.e. LDAP). If this means that it's now possible to configure a cloud so that one need

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] core team changes

2015-01-28 Thread Zane Bitter
On 27/01/15 20:36, Angus Salkeld wrote: Hi all After having a look at the stats: http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/heat-group/90 http://stackalytics.com/?module=heat-groupmetric=person-day I'd like to propose the following changes to the Heat core team: Add: Qiming Teng Huang

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] multicloud support for ec2

2015-01-28 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/01/15 00:03, Hongbin Lu wrote: Hi Heat team, I am looking for a solution to bridge between OpenStack and EC2. According to documents, it seems that Heat has multicloud support but the remote cloud(s) must be OpenStack. It actually doesn't, although it is planned. (We have multi-region

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][hot]

2015-01-26 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/01/15 10:41, Dmitry wrote: Hello, I need to receive instance id as part of the instance installation script. Something like: params: $current_id: {get_param: $this.id http://this.id} I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, sorry. Is it possible? The get_resource

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence Phase 1 implementation plan

2015-01-23 Thread Zane Bitter
I've mentioned this in passing a few times, but I want to lay it out here in a bit more detail for comment. Basically we're implementing convergence at a time when we still have a lot of 'unit' tests that are really integration tests, and we don't want to have to rewrite them to anticipate

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Final steps toward a Convergence design

2015-01-19 Thread Zane Bitter
Hi folks, I'd like to come to agreement on the last major questions of the convergence design. I well aware that I am the current bottleneck as I have been struggling to find enough time to make progress on it, but I think we are now actually very close. I believe the last remaining issue to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Where to keep data about stack breakpoints?

2015-01-13 Thread Zane Bitter
On 13/01/15 11:58, Tomas Sedovic wrote: I also had a chat with Steve Hardy and he suggested adding a STOPPED state to the stack (this isn't in the spec). While not strictly necessary to implement the spec, this would help people figure out that the stack has reached a breakpoint instead of just

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][python-clients] More freedom for all python clients

2015-01-13 Thread Zane Bitter
On 13/01/15 10:01, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-01-13 07:46:38 -0500 (-0500), Sean Dague wrote: Why doesn't rally just remove itself from projects.txt, then there would be no restrictions on what it adds. I second this recommendation. If Rally wants to depend on things which are not part of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Where to keep data about stack breakpoints?

2015-01-12 Thread Zane Bitter
On 12/01/15 10:49, Ryan Brown wrote: On 01/12/2015 10:29 AM, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Hey folks, I did a quick proof of concept for a part of the Stack Breakpoint spec[1] and I put the does this resource have a breakpoint flag into the metadata of the resource:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Where to keep data about stack breakpoints?

2015-01-12 Thread Zane Bitter
On 12/01/15 13:05, Steven Hardy wrote: I also had a chat with Steve Hardy and he suggested adding a STOPPED state to the stack (this isn't in the spec). While not strictly necessary to implement the spec, this would help people figure out that the stack has reached a breakpoint instead of just

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2015-01-09 Thread Zane Bitter
On 08/01/15 05:39, Anant Patil wrote: 1. The stack was failing when there were single disjoint resources or just one resource in template. The graph did not include this resource due to a minor bug in dependency_names(). I have added a test case and fix here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Precursor to Phase 1 Convergence

2015-01-09 Thread Zane Bitter
On 09/01/15 01:07, Angus Salkeld wrote: I am not in favor of the --continue as an API. I'd suggest responding to resource timeouts and if there is no response from the task, then re-start (continue) the task. Yeah, I am not in favour of a new API either. In fact, I believe we already have

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Application level HA via Heat

2015-01-02 Thread Zane Bitter
On 24/12/14 05:17, Steven Hardy wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 03:42:37PM -0500, Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/12/14 13:21, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, So, lately I've been having various discussions around $subject, and I know it's something several folks in our community are interested in, so I

Re: [openstack-dev] Fw: [Heat] Multiple_Routers_Topoloy

2014-12-22 Thread Zane Bitter
The -dev mailing list is not for usage questions. Please post your question to ask.openstack.org and include the text of the error message you when trying to add a RouterInterface. cheers, Zane. On 22/12/14 04:18, Rao Shweta wrote: Hi All I am working on openstack Heat and i wanted to

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Application level HA via Heat

2014-12-22 Thread Zane Bitter
On 22/12/14 13:21, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, So, lately I've been having various discussions around $subject, and I know it's something several folks in our community are interested in, so I wanted to get some ideas I've been pondering out there for discussion. I'll start with a proposal of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-18 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/12/14 07:47, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: We have similar questions regarding other areas in your implementation, which we believe if we understand the outline of your implementation. It is difficult to get a hold on your approach just by looking at code. Docs strings / Etherpad will help.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-17 Thread Zane Bitter
On 17/12/14 13:05, Gurjar, Unmesh wrote: I'm storing a tuple of its name and database ID. The data structure is resource.GraphKey. I was originally using the name for something, but I suspect I could probably drop it now and just store the database ID, but I haven't tried it yet. (Having the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/12/14 09:32, Anant Patil wrote: On 12-Dec-14 06:29, Zane Bitter wrote: On 11/12/14 01:14, Anant Patil wrote: On 04-Dec-14 10:49, Zane Bitter wrote: On 01/12/14 02:02, Anant Patil wrote: On GitHub:https://github.com/anantpatil/heat-convergence-poc I'm trying to review this code

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-15 Thread Zane Bitter
, that goes without saying. In my implementation Stack._create_or_update() handles all three operations. It would be great if we can freeze a stable approach by mid-week as Christmas vacations are round the corner. :) :) -Original Message- From: Zane Bitter [mailto:zbit...@redhat.com] Sent

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/12/14 10:15, Anant Patil wrote: On 13-Dec-14 05:42, Zane Bitter wrote: On 12/12/14 05:29, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: -Original Message- From: Zane Bitter [mailto:zbit...@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 6:37 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-12 Thread Zane Bitter
On 12/12/14 05:29, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: -Original Message- From: Zane Bitter [mailto:zbit...@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 6:37 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown On 11/12/14 08:26

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 11/12/14 01:14, Anant Patil wrote: On 04-Dec-14 10:49, Zane Bitter wrote: On 01/12/14 02:02, Anant Patil wrote: On GitHub:https://github.com/anantpatil/heat-convergence-poc I'm trying to review this code at the moment, and finding some stuff I don't understand: https://github.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 11/12/14 08:26, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: [Murugan, Visnusaran] In case of rollback where we have to cleanup earlier version of resources, we could get the order from old template. We'd prefer not to have a graph table. In theory you could get it by keeping old templates around. But that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-10 Thread Zane Bitter
You really need to get a real email client with quoting support ;) On 10/12/14 06:42, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: Well, we still have to persist the dependencies of each version of a resource _somehow_, because otherwise we can't know how to clean them up in the correct order. But what I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Query on creating multiple resources

2014-12-09 Thread Zane Bitter
On 09/12/14 03:48, Renat Akhmerov wrote: Hey, I think it’s a question of what the final goal is. For just creating security groups as a resource I think Georgy and Zane are right, just use Heat. If the goal is to try Mistral or have this simple workflow as part of more complex then it’s

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Query on creating multiple resources

2014-12-08 Thread Zane Bitter
On 08/12/14 09:41, Sushma Korati wrote: Can we create multiple resources using a single task, like multiple keypairs or security-groups or networks etc? Define them in a Heat template and create the Heat stack as a single task. - ZB ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-08 Thread Zane Bitter
On 08/12/14 07:00, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: Hi Zane Michael, Please have a look @ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/execution-stream-and-aggregator-based-convergence Updated with a combined approach which does not require persisting graph and backup stack removal. Well, we still have to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-12-03 Thread Zane Bitter
On 01/12/14 02:02, Anant Patil wrote: On GitHub:https://github.com/anantpatil/heat-convergence-poc I'm trying to review this code at the moment, and finding some stuff I don't understand: https://github.com/anantpatil/heat-convergence-poc/blob/master/heat/engine/stack.py#L911-L916 This

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Rework auto-scaling support in Heat

2014-12-02 Thread Zane Bitter
On 01/12/14 18:34, Angus Salkeld wrote: I'd suggest a combination between A and B. We may not be as far apart as I thought. 1) Separate some of the autoscaling logic into libraries in Heat 2) Get the separated REST service in place and working (using the above heat library) 3) Add an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-12-01 Thread Zane Bitter
On 13/11/14 13:59, Clint Byrum wrote: I'm not sure we have the same understanding of AMQP, so hopefully we can clarify here. This stackoverflow answer echoes my understanding: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17841843/rabbitmq-does-one-consumer-block-the-other-consumers-of-the-same-queue Not

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Order of machines to be terminated during scale down

2014-11-26 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/11/14 09:13, Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: Thanks Pavlo. Is there any reason why FIFO was chosen? I believe that this was the original termination policy on AWS, and that was the reason we chose it. It was used on AWS because if you deleted an instance that was just created you would be

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-26 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/11/14 09:33, Louis Taylor wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:54:35AM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: It's not about an equality condition. It's about the message that is produced by testtools.TestCase.assertEqual(), and the helpfulness of that message when the order of the arguments is reversed.

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [CustomResource] LifeCycle methods flow

2014-11-26 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/11/14 05:20, Pradip Mukhopadhyay wrote: Hello, Any pointer (document and/or code pointer) related to how the different overridden methods are getting called when a custom resource is getting deployed in the heat stack? Basically just tried to annotate the h-eng log on a simple,

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence proof-of-concept showdown

2014-11-26 Thread Zane Bitter
A bunch of us have spent the last few weeks working independently on proof of concept designs for the convergence architecture. I think those efforts have now reached a sufficient level of maturity that we should start working together on synthesising them into a plan that everyone can forge

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Zane Bitter
On 13/11/14 06:52, Angus Salkeld wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Murugan, Visnusaran visnusaran.muru...@hp.com mailto:visnusaran.muru...@hp.com wrote: Hi all, __ __ Convergence-POC distributes stack operations by sending resource actions over RPC for any

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Zane Bitter
On 13/11/14 03:29, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: Hi all, Convergence-POC distributes stack operations by sending resource actions over RPC for any heat-engine to execute. Entire stack lifecycle will be controlled by worker/observer notifications. This distributed model has its own advantages and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Zane Bitter
On 13/11/14 09:31, Jastrzebski, Michal wrote: Guys, I don't think we want to get into this cluster management mud. You say let's make observer...and what if observer dies? Do we do observer to observer? And then there is split brain. I'm observer, I've lost connection to worker. Should I

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