Re: [OS-webwork] boxed

2002-10-31 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Agreed, this is something that will be addressed with the guidelines doc coming shortly. -Pat - Original Message - From: Maurice C. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joseph Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: [OS-webwork] boxed

Re: [OS-webwork] xwork suggestions

2002-10-31 Thread Patrick Lightbody
, at 05:45 PM, Patrick Lightbody wrote: I'd say it'd be pretty easy to add two new tags as well. And I still think this is a big deal out of nothing. But I guess this all comes back to needing a defined way to propose changes to projects. Ideally, there should be some discussion

Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork 1.3

2002-11-01 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Way to go Maurice! - Original Message - From: Maurice C. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 6:06 AM Subject: [OS-webwork] WebWork 1.3 All, I think we need to put together a 1.3 release sometime within the next month or so. The focus of

Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl status

2002-11-01 Thread Patrick Lightbody
http://jbeans.org/ for this stuff... It looks pretty cool. -Original Message- From: Patrick Lightbody [mailto:plightbo;cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Drew Davidson Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl status Followup: Drew Davidson pointed

Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork CookBook

2002-11-01 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Maybe we should set up a Wiki at wiki.opensymphony.com? -Pat - Original Message - From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: [OS-webwork] WebWork CookBook In light of my recent 'tips' emails, I

Re: [OS-webwork] What a WebWork developer thinks. WAS:documentation

2002-11-03 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Yup... you can have the best of both worlds: 1) good documentation 2) an easy way to use the basic features 2) powerful features that don't complicate #1 or #2 -Pat - Original Message - From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

Re: [OS-webwork] Webwork Security Requirements

2002-11-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
snip Why not just provide two ServletDispatchers? One that works the way everything does now (but just reading views.properties) and another that reads a mapping file that maps path to WebWork alias/action: mapping.properties: /secure/Foo.action=Foo views.properties Foo.action=Foo This could

[OS-webwork] Website and Wiki [Was: What a WebWork developer thinks]

2002-11-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
snip Yup, as documentation grows and gets better, we should also think about having an OpenSymphony Wiki that create a living community as well. Also, as Joe mentioned, why not take our own medicine and make the OS website use WebWork and be more interactive? So.. this is a call for anyone out

Re: Configuration (was RE: [OS-webwork] Webwork Security Requirements)

2002-11-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
: Configuration (was RE: [OS-webwork] Webwork Security Requirements) What are the current thoughts on moving to one form of configuration (i.e. getting rid of views.properties and just using actions.xml)? -Original Message- From: Patrick Lightbody [mailto:plightbo;cisco.com] Sent: Monday, November

Re: Configuration (was RE: [OS-webwork] Webwork Security Requirements)

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Exactly my point, you can make the configuration method support a lot of power but only require simple configuration. Now, multiple config files could possibly confuse users, no doubt about that. I don't think I'd like that. Good thing that configuration is pluggable, so any kind of config is

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
In a web environment, a single termination point is logical, but as we move away from being web based, might there be a place for ending on multiple views? For the above example, CreateAccount could have 2 success views, one view rendered to SMTP, the other to HTTP. Since an Action shouldn't

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Blah First off, to JoeO's whole action as a view stuff... I have no idea what that's all about, sorry :) Maurice also treated my original example (as to why action params are needed) not how I intended and somehow the SendEmail action become some wacky view stuff. That's not what I

Re: [OS-webwork] log4j conf.?

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Only heated cuz you lit the fire ;) J/K... Matt told me to do it, so I did. All my modules (OSCore, OSWorkflow, OSUser, and PropertySet -- and soon Clickstream) use commons-logging now as well. -Pat - Original Message - From: Joseph Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WebWork [EMAIL

[OS-webwork] Rant

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
What's surreal is that you still don't see all the stuff I'm doing with WebWork. My usages, as I'm sure you can admit, are very unique. I doubt there is a single person out there that is doing what I'm doing. With that said, I also used to use WebWork like you and the rest of the world did. I see

Re: [OS-webwork] Rant

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
FWIW, from the discussions I've seen so far between the two of you, Maurice has my vote on all counts. Great. What is the reason for that? Also, just to make it totally clear, I've used WebWork for a long time and I have used the techniques that you and everyone else on this list uses.

[OS-webwork] Tags (and perspective) [Was: more flexible property tag]

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Anders has had a good point all along. ww:property/ is really doing two jobs: push and print. We are all OK with it because we're used to it. But his post below of course looks completely silly... why would you want ww:property/ to do push, print, AND include. That's just silly, right? Well, now

Re: [OS-webwork] ui:hidden and ui:submit

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
' parameter that automatically highlights them, etc etc. Quoting Patrick Lightbody [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anders has had a good point all along. ww:property/ is really doing two jobs: push and print. We are all OK with it because we're used to it. But his post below of course looks completely silly

Re: [OS-webwork] Callback after view is rendered

2002-11-08 Thread Patrick Lightbody
: Re: [OS-webwork] Callback after view is rendered Yep, I like that option :) Errors occurring in the JSP would also have to point to RollbackTx. - Original Message - From: Patrick Lightbody [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 11:12 AM Subject

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Honestly, I'm with Chris here. Hani, you have no right to vote something down if you don't even know the issues involved. None what-so-ever. Hani, you also said: Excellent! A great way of ensuring nobody is able to use webwork without first going through lots of docs. Umm.. wasn't the solution

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Oh, and everyone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe this how the votes stack up (and of course, most of the +1 crew doesn't really have real voting power, but I think it's still important to remember). Also, I've put stars next to regular contributors, so we can see who does have voting

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) Patrick Lightbody wrote: You might not like Anders for the changes he made without asking, but this this stubbornness is pretty sickening. Patrick, this is nothing personal. This is a logistical decision. 1) Changing the behavior

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
So the argument that a tag named property is less intuitive than two tags named push and print is a bad one? -Pat - Original Message - From: Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I am a WebWork user. I use the PropertyTag. Changing the behaviour of the PropertyTag hurts me. Better? Likewise for me (except the opposite) :) 2) Adding addional tags makes the PropertyTag (and the taglibs as a whole) more confusing, not less. Adding tags that are simple and

Re: [OS-webwork] Final stretch.

2002-11-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Maurice, I'll commit to getting the GD stuff fixed up (such as properly sending out error messages to the UI) this week. -Pat - Original Message - From: Maurice C. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: [OS-webwork] Final stretch.

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: the names of the three new tags

2002-11-12 Thread Patrick Lightbody
My two (or three) cents: the names aren't very important right now, as this stuff is all post-1.3 for now. My votes would be: -out or print (ww:out value=foo/bar/) -push (ww:push value=fooww:out value=bar//ww:push) -set (ww:set value=foo/bar id=blah/ ww:out value=@blah/) -Pat

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: the names of the three new tags

2002-11-12 Thread Patrick Lightbody
! After reading lots of names, print, push and set all seem intuitively to do the right things? Print a variable Push a variable on to the stack Set a variable in another context No? -mike On 13/11/02 7:15 AM, Patrick Lightbody ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: My two

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: the names of the three new tags

2002-11-12 Thread Patrick Lightbody
it available as the root for the current scope. Sounds a lot like chroot to me, but I don't think I like that as a tag name. --Erik Set a variable in another context No? -mike On 13/11/02 7:15 AM, Patrick Lightbody ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: My two (or three) cents

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: the names of the three new tags

2002-11-12 Thread Patrick Lightbody
? Should a path be walked and all the parts be pushed to the stack? That would result in a lot of overhead if one did ww:property value=foo/bar/boo/far/for/bor Again, all post 1.3 stuff. For now I'm trying to recreate this ww:include bug. --Erik On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Patrick Lightbody wrote

Re: [OS-webwork] Reusing actions

2002-11-18 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Rob, Yes, with action aliasing you can give the same _class_ two different action names and each one can have it's own success, error, and input views. FooA.action=Foo FooA.success=as.jsp FooA.error=ae.jsp FooB.action=Foo FooB.success=bs.jsp FooB.error=be.jsp - Original Message - From:

Re: [OS-webwork] Webwork 1.2.1 Default Action help

2002-11-25 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Your action needs to implement CommandDriven. - Original Message - From: Java Lamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: [OS-webwork] Webwork 1.2.1 Default Action help Scott, I did just that but it still going right through

Re: [OS-webwork] Webwork action re-use

2002-12-03 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Jason, Could you go ahead and open a case in JIRA and attach your code as well? I'll be sure to get in in CVS and included in the next release if you can do that. -Pat - Original Message - From: Jason Carreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:42

Re: [OS-webwork] Webwork action re-use

2002-12-03 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Mr. Lamer, I tend to write smaller actions and then chain them together. Others tend to write an action, then another action that extends that action, and so-on. It's really a matter of personal preference I suppose. -Pat - Original Message - From: Java Lamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[OS-webwork] Calling all developers: Modules owners

2002-12-03 Thread Patrick Lightbody
OK, well since Maurice bowed out, and Matt has been MIA (I know you're out there Matt, you can't hide forever!), we need a new owner/maintainer for WebWork. I'd volunteer to do it myself, but being that I'm the current owner for OSCore, OSUser, PropertySet, Clickstream, and OSWorkflow -- and that

Re: [OS-webwork] Documentation

2002-12-10 Thread Patrick Lightbody
advantages while I don't see any inherit problems with using XML (except for many it'll take a little longer to setup, but this won't be a problem). Please let me know your thoughts. Ken - Original Message - From: Patrick Lightbody [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: [OS-webwork] Documentation

2002-12-10 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Sitemesh can decorate HTML files, so why the jsp extension? The OSWorkflow docs are all HTML. I really do think that HTML docs are the best bet. Makes our life real simple -- plus including all the docbook crap in the CVS build is never fun. -Pat - Original Message - From: Ken Egervari

Re: [OS-webwork] Documentation

2002-12-10 Thread Patrick Lightbody
PS That said, he who wants to write the documentation gets to choose how it is done. Amen to that! Ken, please don't take any of our (my) comments as a negative thing, I'm just giving you alternate feelings about various formats. But yes, at the end of the day, it's all up to you -- you're the

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity or JSP?

2002-12-10 Thread Patrick Lightbody
This is something that should be remedied (the lesser support for Velocity in WebWork, in terms of tags, is so easy to fix). I'll make sure this is added to XWork as well (by Christmas!). Can someone send me the code (don't Cc the list) for their homegrown velocity tags? Chris? -Pat -

Re: [OS-webwork] Documentation

2002-12-12 Thread Patrick Lightbody
bit. I liked the xdoc format, however and was planning on using that regardless. Ken, Not sure if we are going to use Maven (Mike likes it, Rickard doesn't, I sorta-like-it-sorta-hate-it). I'm sure everyone else out there falls somewhere in one of those three categories. BUT, since you're

Re: [OS-webwork] Documentation

2002-12-13 Thread Patrick Lightbody
enough, overall consensus seems to be a yes to xdocs, and an no to maven. The very fact that the 'simple mavenising' posted on here says that one has to get maven out of cvs is a winning argument against using it ;) On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 05:42 PM, Patrick Lightbody wrote

[OS-webwork] Maven [Was: Documentation]

2002-12-13 Thread Patrick Lightbody
FYI: I have been trying to mavenize OSCore in attempt to see if it's worth all the fuss. I must say, I'm not too impressed. I finally got it to build oscore's jar file correctly, but not after quite a wrestling match. And now the site won't generate since the latest version of maven from CVS HEAD

Re: [OS-webwork] 1.3 RC1 Release

2002-12-14 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I'm a slacker, I didn't get in the webtable stuff I was supposed to. I'll put it in today. - Original Message - From: matt baldree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 6:56 AM Subject: [OS-webwork] 1.3 RC1 Release WW 1.3 RC1 has been released. I want

Re: [OS-webwork] Actuin Chaining

2002-12-15 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Cameron, ActionSupport didn't have setters for the error Map or the errorMessage List. This has been resolved in CVS and version 1.3. Without setters, the error messages wouldn't chain together. I had this problem a couple days ago and fixed it :) -Pat - Original Message - From: Cameron

Re: [Opensymphony-developers] Re: [OS-webwork] OpenSymphony build process

2002-12-17 Thread Patrick Lightbody
/developer. On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 11:11 AM, Patrick Lightbody wrote: I think we should standardize the OpenSymphony build process. Here is my first cut at it, please comment: - attached is a build script for OSCore, but as you can see, it's very generic. We should use

[OS-webwork] OpenSymphony build process

2002-12-17 Thread Patrick Lightbody
, December 17, 2002, at 11:31 AM, Patrick Lightbody wrote: If we don't include ant but instead tell people to download ant, I can promise you that the mavenites will be clamoring for maven builds instead, since downloading maven or downloading ant are parallels. Besides, build.xml

Re: [Opensymphony-developers] Re: [OS-webwork] OpenSymphony build process

2002-12-17 Thread Patrick Lightbody
, December 17, 2002 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Opensymphony-developers] Re: [OS-webwork] OpenSymphony build process Hello, Patrick Lightbody wrote: If we don't include ant but instead tell people to download ant, I can promise you that the mavenites will be clamoring for maven builds instead

Re: [OS-webwork] OpenSymphony build process

2002-12-17 Thread Patrick Lightbody
OK, I'm making an executive decision: Ant will be included with the builds. And in case you didn't know, the WebWork build works this way. End of issue, since it's not a big issue, no matter how much people want to make it seem like it is. Can you all please go back and look at the rest of the

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork configuration

2002-12-17 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Brock, Just post your ideas on the mailing list and and Wiki and we can discuss them. -Pat - Original Message - From: Brockman Bulger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:04 PM Subject: [OS-webwork] XWork configuration I noticed the roadmap for

Re: [OS-webwork] PropertyEditor cache

2002-12-22 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Yes, the plan is to use Ognl. It had just as good of performance and it does better type conversion for both setters and getters. Examples are in CVS already at sandbox/xwork, and a working system will be in place in a couple days. -Pat - Original Message - From: Blake Day [EMAIL

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork in CVS

2002-12-28 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Message - From: Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 2:49 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] XWork in CVS Patrick Lightbody wrote: OK, as you may have seen, XWork is in the sandbox CVS module. I'd like you all to take a look at it and let me

Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL

2002-12-28 Thread Patrick Lightbody
: Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL Patrick Lightbody wrote: You can find more about the syntax at www.ognl.org, but here are some examples compared to WebWork: Ognl -- WebWork name -- name :) person.name -- person/name map[blah] -- map['blah'] How

Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL

2002-12-28 Thread Patrick Lightbody
, December 28, 2002 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL I guess I'd like to see the actual expression used: ww:property value=foo.bar / (calls foo.getBar(), or...) On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, [ISO-8859-1] Rickard Öberg wrote: Patrick Lightbody wrote: You can find more

Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL

2002-12-29 Thread Patrick Lightbody
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL Patrick Lightbody wrote: You can find more about the syntax at www.ognl.org, but here are some examples compared to WebWork: Ognl -- WebWork name

Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL

2002-12-29 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Yes, I assume you could do that as well, though I think that would be pretty confusing, since expressions in view layers (JSP, velocity) tend to be static in nature, so I doubt [someInt].someVal would ever crop up. As for using the other expression language, yes, Ognl supports any kind of

Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL

2002-12-29 Thread Patrick Lightbody
PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 10:20 PM, Patrick Lightbody wrote: However, by using Ognl we gain not having to maintian our own EL and a whole bunch of speed, as well as more powerful features (Ognl can even do lamba

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork source

2002-12-30 Thread Patrick Lightbody
, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] XWork source Patrick Lightbody wrote: OK, sure, let's talk about it it more (or maybe I'll piggyback on to the massive rethink thread!). Do that. The XML config is verbose, and it could be cleaned up a bit. It was a first attempt to just show

Re: [OS-webwork] Rethink

2002-12-30 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Yeah, doesn't yet, but the plan is to add that in soon. Tonight I'll make the code quicker and then start incorporating Rickards ideas. -Pat - Original Message - From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:07 PM

Re: [OS-webwork] Rethink

2002-12-31 Thread Patrick Lightbody
By all means, go for it! - Original Message - From: Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Rethink Patrick Lightbody wrote: Yeah, doesn't yet, but the plan is to add that in soon. Tonight I'll make

Re: [OS-webwork] Action invocation

2003-01-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
This sounds scary to me -- I'm not entirely convinced that URLs with .action in them are terribly bad. I do have cases where 4 different actions use that same SUCCESS view: ShowDocumentListA.success = doc_list.jsp ShowDocumentListB.success = doc_list.jsp ShowDocumentListC.success = doc_list.jsp

Re: [OS-webwork] Rethink

2003-01-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
: [OS-webwork] Rethink Patrick Lightbody wrote: Great! So we can expect a finished product by Friday? :) Friday? *yawn* :-) Glad to have you on board with this. Of course, I'll be around to help in any way possible -- just gimme a holler. Will do. I'm afraid I'm gonna thrash around

Re: [OS-webwork] Action configuration XML [Commands]

2003-01-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
What is missing from this example currently is commands. Any ideas are welcome here. One option is to have the action declaration look like this: action name=fooDefault class=SimpleAction.doDefault interceptors-ref name=default/ result name=success view=bar.action/ /action i.e.

Re: [OS-webwork] Action configuration XML [Commands]

2003-01-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
, but then the burdon is on the HTML/JSP writers and not the application designer. -Pat - Original Message - From: Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Action configuration XML [Commands] Patrick Lightbody

Re: [OS-webwork] Action configuration XML [Commands]

2003-01-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
that are similar (same class) but behave differently based on settings. -Pat - Original Message - From: Rickard Ã-berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Action configuration XML [Commands] Patrick Lightbody wrote: See, I

Re: [OS-webwork] Action invocation

2003-01-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I believe Rickard has made it clear both will be available. - Original Message - From: boxed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Action invocation Pretty much, yes. There's no real trouble with allowing .action

[OS-webwork] Talk vs Do

2003-01-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
OK, so we've had quite a bit of communication on the list in the last few days, and to be honest, I'm having a hard time keeping up with it all. I mean, all the ideas and interest is great, but let's take a step at a time. Remember, the CVS module name is sandbox, nothing is golden in there.

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Re: Action invocation

2003-01-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I use #2 quite a bit, and I'm not in any sort of portlet environment. I just have multiple ww:action tags in my JSPs. - Original Message - From: Hai Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Re: Action invocation

Re: [OS-webwork] Talk vs Do

2003-01-02 Thread Patrick Lightbody
can much more easily keep / discard them? -mike On 3/1/03 8:08 AM, Patrick Lightbody ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: OK, so we've had quite a bit of communication on the list in the last few days, and to be honest, I'm having a hard time keeping up with it all. I mean, all

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Action invocation [state machine]

2003-01-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Rickard, You said it yourself, you're geared toward a state-machine-type of development. Well I am too, actually... heavily influenced by the OSWorkflow statemachine (I see large parallels between OSWF and WW -- especially with chaining). My point here is that I think you should stay around. With

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork Status

2003-01-08 Thread Patrick Lightbody
to start seeing this stuff next week sometime after I, too, get back to my fast internet :) Congrats on the new stuff, Pat. --Erik On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Patrick Lightbody wrote: Just letting you guys know that I was a day behind my prediction on getting a working XWork in to CVS

Re: [OS-webwork] WW 1.2.1 webwork:checkbox taglib bug?

2003-01-08 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Kirk... I'll try to duplicate the error you are giving... though it seems very strange. I'm using 1.3 (latest from CVS) with no trouble at all. If you want to see what has changed, check out the changelog on http://jira.opensymphony.com The main change you'd have to worry about is: - action

Re: [OS-webwork] Enhancements to Jasper Reports

2003-01-09 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Pardon me for my ignorance... but could you possibly provide a high level detail of what Jasper Reports is, specifically how it integrates in with WW? -Pat - Original Message - From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January

[OS-webwork] XWork Interceptors

2003-01-09 Thread Patrick Lightbody
So anyway, I'm just going to disregard the Documentation thread and start a thread that is actually useful :) (Though, Ken, we're still hoping your willing to do some Doc work!) So besides Action Chaining, Rickard made a good point that interceptors is very important as well. I'd like to talk

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork Interceptors

2003-01-09 Thread Patrick Lightbody
InterceptorChain(action, interceptors); result = interceptorChain.doInterceptor(); Anyway, that's what I've been working on... Thoughts? Jason -Original Message- From: Patrick Lightbody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:24 AM To: os-ww Subject: [OS

[OS-webwork] Strange classloader lockups

2003-01-09 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Not sure if this is really a WebWork problem (the stack traces in the file attached all show WW stuff, but they aren't locking there), but I'm getting lockups in Orion. Basically, it appears that the orion classloader is being locked on to and never let go (though I could't figure out why that

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork Interceptors

2003-01-10 Thread Patrick Lightbody
For those who want to use EJB's to do the tx demaraction, you'd simply remove the tx interceptor. Or, another way to put what Rickard said is: For those who don't want to use EJB's to do the tx demarcation, you'd simply add the tx interceptor. ;)

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork Interceptors

2003-01-10 Thread Patrick Lightbody
No, of course not. Transactions are just a good base case because they are a type of interceptor that works on both sides of the action (before and after) and behavior can change based on possible configurations, changes in the action contex, etc. -Pat - Original Message - From: Hani

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-10 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Rickard, These are great, I've placed them on the Wiki (Which is now linked from the main site, yay!). -Pat - Original Message - From: Rickard Ã-berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WebWork [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:59 AM Subject: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts All,

[OS-webwork] Getting rid of thread locals

2003-01-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
In effort to ditch the servlet paradigm, any thoughts on changing ActionContext from being a ThreadLocal to just a normal Map? I've got some code I can commit to CVS if you'd like to see how it would work. -Pat --- This SF.NET email is

[OS-webwork] XWork cvs updated

2003-01-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
A summary of the changes (read below for more): * Removed ActionContext ThreadLocal in favor of a simple context Map * Modified View, Action, and InterceptorChain interfaces/objects to have access to the context Map * Removed ActionFactory entirely in favor of interceptors * Removed

Re: [OS-webwork] Getting rid of thread locals

2003-01-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
would any of the context stuff work without it? On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 03:56 AM, Patrick Lightbody wrote: In effort to ditch the servlet paradigm, any thoughts on changing ActionContext from being a ThreadLocal to just a normal Map? I've got some code I can commit to CVS

Re: [OS-webwork] Getting rid of thread locals

2003-01-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
10:15 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Getting rid of thread locals Patrick Lightbody wrote: ThreadLocal implies that you always have a single thread throughout the lifecycle of the action (prepare, execute, print results). This is true for a servlet container (single thread/request), but not so

[OS-webwork] IoC and ComponentInterceptor

2003-01-11 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I've added Joe Walnes' Component stuff and modified it to fit in the Interceptor framework. It's really cool. I recommend that you check out the sources and run the example-war target. As you can see, each time you reload, the counter will increment. The cool thing is that if you look at the code

Re: [OS-webwork] Reflection

2003-01-12 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Amen (great point abot JMS, btw)! This is _sandbox_, PLEASE everyone stop making things so dramatic. All I'm doing is putting things in there for us to discuss and toy with. Then we talk. That's the idea: Write, talk, write some more. Not write, talk, abandon project ;) -Pat - Original

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Yup, Kirk's option here is the best way to get immediate performance improvements. I've made a very generic selectfastmap.jsp template for large lists of Map objects. Works much faster. -Pat - Original Message - From: Kirk Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [OS-webwork] Hidden token

2003-01-17 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Well, from my part, I'll toy with getting it in sandbox right away. - Original Message - From: Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Hidden token Vedovato Paolo wrote: that is a very important feature

Re: [OS-webwork] RC2?

2003-01-19 Thread Patrick Lightbody
+1 as well. - Original Message - From: Jason Carreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 6:50 PM Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] RC2? I'd vote for new features (small, well tested ones) going into RC2... -Original Message- From: Peter Kelley

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-22 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Message- From: Patrick Lightbody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4 Yup, Kirk's option here is the best way to get immediate performance improvements. I've made a very generic

Re: [OS-webwork] Xwork 1.0 and Webwork 2.0 Mission Statements

2003-01-22 Thread Patrick Lightbody
+1 :) - Original Message - From: Jason Carreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:19 PM Subject: [OS-webwork] Xwork 1.0 and Webwork 2.0 Mission Statements Here's a first pass at mission statements for Xwork 1.0 and Webwork 2.0. Hopefully this

Re: [OS-webwork] Performance

2003-01-22 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I believe that rewriting it to work for Lists would be just fine. The main thing it is doing is essentially _skipping_ all the EL stuff, which I believe is OK since templates are only usually edited once. -Pat - Original Message - From: Peter Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[OS-webwork] WebWork 2.0: FilterDispatcher?

2003-01-22 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I've got a very rough FilterDispatcher in WebWork sandbox (2.0). If works like this: if you request /success.jsp, it'll look up to see if /success.jsp is used as a result of any action. The logic is: - first try the success result - then try the input result - then try any result if there is one

Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork 2.0: FilterDispatcher?

2003-01-23 Thread Patrick Lightbody
] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork 2.0: FilterDispatcher? Patrick Lightbody wrote: snippetysnap What do you think? Rickard, would this work for you? Everyone else, would this work for YOU? ;) Works for me! :-) /Rickard -- Rickard Öberg [EMAIL

Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork 2.0: FilterDispatcher? [Small problem]

2003-01-23 Thread Patrick Lightbody
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork 2.0: FilterDispatcher? Patrick Lightbody wrote: snippetysnap What do you think? Rickard, would this work for you? Everyone else, would this work for YOU? ;) Works for me! :-) /Rickard

[OS-webwork] Ognl: peek(), up(), and down()

2003-01-23 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I know that the change from .. to [1] has been quite a sticky point for some, so I have some other proposals, let me know what you think: The CompoundRoot object will _always_ be the foundation for the OgnlValueStack. I added a method peek() to it so that we could do: ww:push value=counter

Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl: peek(), up(), and down()

2003-01-23 Thread Patrick Lightbody
It is possible, but it involves basicacally writing at least _part_ of our own EL using JavaCC. I'll ask the Ognl guys more about it today. -Pat - Original Message - From: Jason Carreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:19 AM Subject: RE:

Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl: peek(), up(), and down()

2003-01-23 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Working on that right now :) - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Erik Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl: peek(), up(), and down() -1 This seems like an ugly hack, I think

Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork 2.0: FilterDispatcher? [Small problem + solution?]

2003-01-26 Thread Patrick Lightbody
applied or else you'll loose the application of filters further down the chain. I don't think this is too bad though, since we can just -clearly- document that the FilterDispatcher (if you want to use it) must be applied last. Thoughts? -Pat - Original Message - From: Patrick Lightbody

[OS-webwork] Using SiteMesh for the UI tags

2003-01-27 Thread Patrick Lightbody
As I've mentioned in the past, I wanted to explore using SiteMesh to power the UI taglibs, at least for JSP. I know Rickard threw out the idea of using velocity for all taglibs (regardless if your view is JSP), so what I'd like to see happen is this: 1) I'll commit my sitemesh integration stuff

Re: [OS-webwork] Using SiteMesh for the UI tags

2003-01-27 Thread Patrick Lightbody
OK, I've commited them. Try it out and let's have some feedback! - Original Message - From: Patrick Lightbody [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: os-ww [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:57 AM Subject: [OS-webwork] Using SiteMesh for the UI tags As I've mentioned in the past, I

Re: [OS-webwork] Partition XWork [Was: Re: XWork flux]

2003-01-30 Thread Patrick Lightbody
+1 - Original Message - From: Jason Carreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Partition XWork [Was: Re: XWork flux] See http://www.opensymphony.com:8668/space/XWork+1.0+Mission+Statement And

Re: [OS-webwork] Partition XWork [Was: Re: XWork flux]

2003-01-30 Thread Patrick Lightbody
I think that two jars is a good middle ground: xwork-1.0.jar webwork-2.0.jar This is what we've been planning on all along. -Pat - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Partition

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity as the UI widgets [WW 2.0]

2003-02-03 Thread Patrick Lightbody
on average 40 -seconds-. When using velocity under the same test, the final 20 requests took on average 1.4 seconds. That's a scalability factor of about 30X! -Pat - Original Message - From: Patrick Lightbody [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: os-ww [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003

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