RE: How can I measure my DB performance.

2003-09-05 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Get the purge package written by Tim Gorman available from http://www.evdbt.com/tools.htm (no 31 on the list) Install it as user perfstat and then create the folloiwng 2 dbms_jobs as user perfstat to take snapshots every hour and purge snapshot data older than 7 days Works on 8.1.7 9 (but not

RE: get sid (session id) and serial#?

2003-09-05 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
A good response Arup, gave me food for thought, now for some food for my stomach! Thanks John -Original Message- Sent: 01 September 2003 18:14 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's hardly illogical. The purpose of this view is not to provide the SID of the current session, but

Re: Problem querying remote table through a synonym

2003-09-05 Thread GovindanK
Enable Network Tracing and check. GovindanK I'm confused, has anyone ever seen something like this before? This query works as you can see: select count(*) from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; COUNT(*) -- 275375 We execute the following DDL: DROP SYNONYM

RE: Oracle Standby Database Backups.

2003-09-05 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA
Arup,Indy, List Some Clarifications please If the Primary Database is in ARCHIVELOG Mode (Physical Standby) archived files there from are being shipped applied to the Standby Database, What is the need to run the Standby Database in ARCHIVELOG Mode? Are you implying 9i

RE: RE: c based external procedures vs. Java Stored Procedures

2003-09-05 Thread Stephane Faroult
My feeling is that, given the clumsy way external procedures are implemented, the argument of C speed doesn't hold too well. If you must write a function which will be called through IPCs each time you return a row, from instance, C will look javaish in speed. Add to this that static variables

Re: Listener problem on one client computer

2003-09-05 Thread Damien Babilon
Thank you very mutch for your replys, Today I finally found the problem. The traceroute shows the good route, but a Ms Proxy Client installed on the server blocked the request apparently. Just disabling it resolve everything. Damien Damien wrote: I have to do netstat -a on the webserver or

Net App Filer

2003-09-05 Thread Gunnar Berglund
Hi all, is anyone using Net App Filer -products with Oracle environment. What do you think? Advantages Disadvantages Thank you for your time gWant to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger

Re: latch free wait event

2003-09-05 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Hi, You can query the v$session_wait (or event 10046 if you are a big fan of 10046) to get the latch#. If I Remeber right the P2 value in the session wait (or p3?) gives the latch number and you can join this with v$latch_name to get the name of the latch. Once you find out the waiting (or

Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - dollar cost of that. I remind you folks that Oracle is a for profit venture. It's not Oracle's responsibility to make anything affordable. It's the responsibility of Oracle to generate revenue, it is the expectation of Oracle shareholders (of which I am one)

Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - It's too bad. It seems like it would be fun. What for? Make the employer shell out another BIG bunch of notes? To get a piece of paper that says on that date and with that hardware one could perform a backup and a restore? What does that say about the

RE: get sid (session id) and serial#?

2003-09-05 Thread Ron Rogers
On our production database there is the ability for the users to query the database with some long running, date intensive queries. We came up with a method of having the user kill is't own process if needed. We user roles to allow the users acces to the data. Granted select on V_$MYSTAT AND

Re: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread rgaffuri
OCM is about marketing. consulting companies will use that to sell their consultants. Ive noticed that alot of employers and co-workers are more likely to listen to someone who is certified than someone who isnt. Its one of the reasons, Im getting mine. Makes it easier to get people to do what

Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Ron Rogers
I have a certificate suitable for framing that states that I am a Database Administrator Oracle 7 Oracle Master. Does this new Oracle Master negate my current Oracle Master certification? Is there and upgrade path available? Does it really matter? Every thing that I have accomplished I have done

Re: Listener problem on one client computer

2003-09-05 Thread GovindanK
Damien Your gesture is appreciated. It is a must that such solutions are shared with the list members. GovindanK Thank you very mutch for your replys, Today I finally found the problem. The traceroute shows the good route, but a Ms Proxy Client installed on the server blocked the request

Re: Offshore threat

2003-09-05 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - It doesn't work in only one direction. While jobs are bieng lost to cheaper labor markets, Indian companies now have to compete with frighteningly efficient giants like Nike, Coca Cola, IBM, Microsoft, GM, Union Carbide and others. On IT? I thought we were

RE: Net App Filer

2003-09-05 Thread Brian Dunbar
Gunnar Berglund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, September 05, 2003 5:24 AM said; is anyone using Net App Filer -products with Oracle environment. Yup. Hosts a horde of databases for a medium sized outfit - pehaps 3000 employees, 24/7 manufacturing. What do you think? I like it but I'm

Re: Re: Application DBA

2003-09-05 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - Degree/OCP achievement doesn't teach f all - in my opinion - though it does prove your memory isn't shot. I can think of much cheaper and much more reliable and credible ways of checking my memory... :) lot. The reason, for example, that I personally prefer

Oracle Script Documentation

2003-09-05 Thread Jay
Hello: I was wondering if anyone knew of a source that listed what each of the scripts in RDBMS (catproc, etc) functionality. So far I have only been able to find a small listing (10 common scripts), and was hoping someone might have a more complete list. I know that they are different version to

Re: 600-[25012] on delete of IOT table

2003-09-05 Thread GovindanK
Earlier post did not reach. Hence Reposting. Take a look at the Metalink Note:125149.1 ALERT: ONLINE Index Rebuild or IOT Table Move can Produce Corrupt Index As per the note it affects 8.1.(5/6/7).x It has the relevant info. Also take a look at the Docid: 287936.999. HTH GovindanK

Re: Offshore threat

2003-09-05 Thread Nuno Souto
Well, you could find a job in Canada, no? Can you find one in India too? I don't think so. So it's not business as usual. Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - When working at International Air Transport Association (IATA), the company moved around 60 jobs from Geneva

Re: Wel it appears the 10g world is coming soon

2003-09-05 Thread John Shaw
I'd love to see what you come up with on this one. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/4/2003 11:59:31 AM During my free time(ha, between developing pages for kid's soccer association, redcross instructor and board member, family, work), are you all interested in my discoveries when i start trudging thru

Oracle9iR2 - temporary tablespace usage error

2003-09-05 Thread laura pena
HI all, I'm getting the following error when using temporary tablespace on a locally managed system tablespace. Seems if my system tablespace is locally managed I can not create a dictionary managed tablespace. Can anyone let me know if it is a bad idea to have system tablespace locally managed

RE: Offshore threat

2003-09-05 Thread Stephane Paquette
By business as usual, I meant that executives always try to save money and will always do. Now, IT is targeted. And pepople in IT find that very difficult because the pay has been very good since 5-7 years and most people thought it would last forever. Now it's time to wake up and see that IT is

RE: How can I measure my DB performance.

2003-09-05 Thread Stephane Paquette
15 minutes ! All our production db are set up at 1 hour interval. A summary of the stats are centralized in 1 db and we keep that 2 months. We go down to 10-15 minues to investigate problems. I find a 15 minutes interval very short. Thanks for the link to yapppack. We do a similar thing using a

RE: latch free wait event

2003-09-05 Thread Cary Millsap
Yes. Even with TIMED_STATISTICS=TRUE, relying on *any* statistic with system-wide scope can waste your time. For a 34-page introduction to the rationale behind this proposition, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/optoraclep/chapter/ch01.pdf Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.

RE: Problem querying remote table through a synonym

2003-09-05 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Try creating the synonym as a public synonym. That will give everyone privileges to it without granting them explicitly. Ruth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of GovindanK Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of

Re: Offshore threat

2003-09-05 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - forever. Now it's time to wake up and see that IT is becoming a job like another where you most hold to your job instead of going to job interview just for fun. A lot of people don't believe this when I say it, but when I started in IT in 1975 what we got now

RE: Oracle9iR2 - temporary tablespace usage error

2003-09-05 Thread April Wells
you can't have any dictionary managed tablespaces that are open for write operations... dictionary managed read only tablespaces will still work. I think you're right, temp isn't being freed up... or is something else using it, or is the index creation just that huge? April Wells Oracle

RE: Net App Filer

2003-09-05 Thread Jesse, Rich
I thought that Oracle datafiles over NFS was neither recommended nor supported. Has this changed? Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Brian Dunbar

RE: Oracle9iR2 - temporary tablespace usage error

2003-09-05 Thread laura pena
Thanks, Yes I have 200,000 millions row table ... I belive my tempoary tablespace is way too small. -lizzApril Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can't have any dictionary managed tablespaces that are open for write operations... dictionary managed read only tablespaces will still work. I

RE: Oracle9iR2 - temporary tablespace usage error

2003-09-05 Thread Hitchman, Peter
Hi, There are a couple of issues here. Firstly you need to know that when you get the error about the "temp" segment when building the index, the segment in question is the index. It is just that when building the index Oracle creates a temp segment to sort the data in and to create the

RE: Net App Filer

2003-09-05 Thread Daniel Harron
We use the net apps for a number of instances as well. I'm would not recommend them for an IO intensive application. If you are using a 100 Mb connection your max aggregate throughput will be about 6MB per second, which is very bad. Try performing backups over this. If you do use them, gigabit

RE: Offshore threat

2003-09-05 Thread Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/04/1062548967124.html A - This is social engineering at its finest. B - There is no security without PHYSICAL security C - If you don't check up on your outsourcer, then you can apparently get the shirt stolen off your back... v/r Stephen S. Wolfe,

RE: Net App Filer

2003-09-05 Thread Rachel Carmichael
NetApp Filer is a special case of NFS and is, in fact, supported by Oracle --- Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that Oracle datafiles over NFS was neither recommended nor supported. Has this changed? Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator

RE: Oracle Script Documentation

2003-09-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jay Here is your chance to join the big league and become an expert in your own area. One thing I've noticed in tracing the scripts is that many of the scripts call each other. Something like catproc must call dozens of the other scripts. Not that much need to understand every low-level

How to get the source code of the trigger without using any third party tools?

2003-09-05 Thread Oracle DBA
Hi List, Could you please help me to get the source code of the trigger without using any third party tools? Thanks in advance, Raj __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Please see the

RE: Net App Filer

2003-09-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Daniel That was close to my experience. Very useful for test databases where throughput isn't that important. We find it very useful to clone 100-gig production databases so the users have a complete data set to perform staging tests. The NetApp provides a lot of inexpensive storage. But I

RE: Oracle9iR2 - temporary tablespace usage error

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message You can always try DBMS_SPACE_ADMIN.TABLESPACE_MIGRATE_FROM_LOCAL. I've never tried it, it might be buggy, but in theory, the procedure would go like this: 1) Create locally managed tablespace 2) Read the manual/ 3) Migrate the tablespace local - dictionary. 4) Start

RE: How to get the source code of the trigger without using any third party tools?

2003-09-05 Thread Goulet, Dick
User_source or DBA_source for procedures and USER_TRIGGERS or DBA_TRIGGERS for triggers. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L third party tools? Hi List, Could you

RE: RE: URGENT : sql*loader performance problem on partionned tab

2003-09-05 Thread NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem)
Title: RE: RE: URGENT : sql*loader performance problem on partionned tab here the trace : SELECT STATEMENT, GOAL = CHOOSE 2 72 1368 FOR UPDATE FILTER PARTITION RANGE SINGLE TABLE ACCESS BY LOCAL INDEX ROWID FICOM HREL_FUSION 2 72 1368 INDEX RANGE SCAN FICOM

RE: Offshore threat

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
Two IBM mainframes stolen? Boy, the times are changing! To steal only a single 3090 600J, one would need a whole infantry division, not just two guys with a dolly. I bet they'll end up running Linux and having a ton of Jared's perl scripts on them. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original

Re: How to get the source code of the trigger without using

2003-09-05 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
set long 32656 col trigger_body for a80 word select trigger_body from dba_triggers where owner='xxx' and trigger_name = 'yyy'; At 07:34 AM 9/5/2003 -0800, you wrote: Hi List, Could you please help me to get the source code of the trigger without using any third party tools? Thanks in advance,

Re: Oracle Standby Database Backups.

2003-09-05 Thread Arup Nanda
Vivek, The origianl poster inquired on Physical Standby (in 8i and 9i) as opposed to logical standby (only in 9i). In physical standby, you don't have a choice of running the standby in noarchivelog mode. The control file is created from the primary as "standby controlfile" which is then

Re: How to get the source code of the trigger without using any third party tools?

2003-09-05 Thread raju pa
You can use view all_triggers or user_triggers to get the entire text. trigger_body has the trigger text. triggering_event, trigger_type , REFERENCING_NAMES etc have other details. You can also use enterprise manager to get it. One trick in enterprise manager is to add some spaces somewhere (a non

RE: How to get the source code of the trigger without using any third party tools?

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
Well, the idea of extracting it from user_triggers or dba_triggers is a little far fetched and unnatural, but should work. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- Oracle DBA Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L party tools? Hi

RE: Net App Filer

2003-09-05 Thread Spears, Brian
I have TAKEN THE PLUNGE and using it for PRODUCTION... ENRON used for all their production databases (100+ ) and they were several hundred gig. We are using a special Disaster recovery product of Netapps as well. Brian -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:39 AM To:

RE: How to get the source code of the trigger without using

2003-09-05 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Why is it far fetched and unnatural ? In my view that is the only way to be sure to get the correct source. At 08:09 AM 9/5/2003 -0800, you wrote: Well, the idea of extracting it from user_triggers or dba_triggers is a little far fetched and unnatural, but should work. Wolfgang Breitling

RE: Oracle9iR2 - temporary tablespace usage error

2003-09-05 Thread srini . chavali
Mladen, It's not buggy - I have used it without any side effects on 8.1.6 and 8.1.7. Works as advertised - for a change ! Srini Chavali Oracle DBA Cummins Inc Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/2003 10:34 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple

Re: Net App Filer

2003-09-05 Thread Binley Lim
That is a misconception - you do not reduce bidirectional traffic because you are still reading/writing from the Filer. However, you are mostly like to be seeing the effects of the different levels of caching on the Filer itself, which translates through to a better performance from your

RE: How to get the source code of the trigger without using any t

2003-09-05 Thread Rudy Zung
Select from DBA/ALL/USER_SOURCE; if the source code looks like a bunch of garbage, then it means the source code has been wrapped, which is Oracle's facility of obfuscate it so that you can't read it. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients

RE: How to get the source code of the trigger without using

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
Just kidding. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- Wolfgang Breitling Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Why is it far fetched and unnatural ? In my view that is the only way to be sure to get the correct source. At 08:09

RE: Oracle9iR2 - temporary tablespace usage error

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message 12913, 0, "Cannot create dictionary managed tablespace"// *Cause: Attemp to create dictionary managed tablespace in database// which has system tablespace as locally managed// *Action: Create a locally managed tablespace. It's a feature, not a bug. Why would anyone want

RE: How to get the source code of the trigger without using

2003-09-05 Thread raju pa
You can ofcourse use enterprise manager. You would have to get the body and other things like triggering event etc. To use the "Show SQL"option : one trick to use is a space some place (basically non-change)and hit "Show SQL". That should give you the whole trigger sql. Good luck. * Jared : I

RE: Offshore threat

2003-09-05 Thread Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI
Very insightful and I agree. Note that my title is Data Services Mgr. and in that role I do some DBAing, need to learn a lot More Oracle 'basic' keep it in the middle of the road stuff, but where I make my biggest impact And consistently win annual awards (I get coins (organizational coins -- big

RE: How to get the source code of the trigger without using

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message Or, you can set event 10046, level 12 and look into the trace file. All SQL statements in the trigger should be in there, which should give you a pretty good idea about what's in the trigger itself. Or, you could do a systemdump level 10 and extract the trigger text from

Re: RE: Oracle Script Documentation

2003-09-05 Thread rgaffuri
SQL.BSQ file that creates the data dictionary is neat. Its good for getting into arguments. Since alot of DBAs like to correct you when you say 'v$ view', they insist 'v$ table', you open sql.bsq and its 'create or replace view v_$' There is alot of neat stuff in sql.bsq. Notes that were placed

Re: Oracle Script Documentation

2003-09-05 Thread Joe Testa
wish i still have some of that stuff but i did receive a patch set for oracle 7 on hpux that the developer forgot to turn off debugging for, something in it core dumped and the .trc file had C source code in it, back in my days of doing ALOT of C, i spoke to a developer and pointed out where a

Teenie Tiny 9iR2 Install Client Wanted

2003-09-05 Thread Odland, Brad
I want to get a 9iR2 client configured that trims all the flab Oracle is mum on the subject and are quite satisfied at installing a gig of client. Even the min of 300MB is too much when it come to pushing several hundered clients out... ANyone have any thoughts, feelings, documents, links

RE: Urgent INFO needed.

2003-09-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Maria I just wanted to thank you for posting your views on the DBA situation from your perspective. I always feel better informed when I have an opportunity to hear opinions from people whose situation is different from mine. And I agree with you that this is a valuable forum where people with

RE: Net App Filer

2003-09-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Binley - Yes, I probably didn't phrase that too well. My understanding is that when you create an index on a table, Oracle has to scan the table at least once, then write to the index. My point was that if both the table and the index are on the NetApp, your performance might be lower. Thanks for

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Pete Sharman
Just to clarify, the old Oracle Masters was only an indication that you had attended a series of relevant training courses. There was no test, no measure of how well you could perform the role of a DBA. The new Oracle Masters definitely addresses that issue. Pete Controlling developers is

question for internals experts

2003-09-05 Thread rgaffuri
Does oracle store the tablespace_name or any data about a tablespace anywhere else accept TS$? Im looking for base data dictionary tables. Not views. Are there any documents out there about how oracle stores information in the data dictionary tables other than what Steve Adams has in his book

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Thater, William
Pete Sharman scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Just to clarify, the old Oracle Masters was only an indication that you had attended a series of relevant training courses. There was no test, no measure of how well you could perform the role of a DBA. The new Oracle Masters definitely

external procedure as not-oracle on OS

2003-09-05 Thread Henry Poras
In order to run some OS commands from within the database we have set up a few external procedures. One of the functions we need to accomplish is to change the permissions of a file owned by a user other than oracle. As the external procedure is executed by Oracle, this is a problem. I tried

RE: Oracle Script Documentation

2003-09-05 Thread Jay Wade
Sounds like a project, I'll see if I can try to get each files brief definiation and then what it's calling scripts are. Should be interesting to see that the dependencies are. From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

RE: question for internals experts

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
There are many references to TS# all over the place. If I were you, I wouldn't try renaming it, without being in reallly dire straits. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Pete, Bill Just think though. If we'd been smart and acted like it was a terrific thing and anyone with an Oracle Masters was top notch, then maybe we wouldn't have to take all these darned tests. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

Re: external procedure as not-oracle on OS

2003-09-05 Thread rgaffuri
you can do this all easily with a java stored procedure. alot less code. also, it will run as the DBA group on unix. there is an example in tom kytes book. Really short code. You can call any OS script with it. Might be on his website too. you then create a chmod script in unix that oracle

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Pete Sharman
Funny, I found my cost (free) was acceptable ... :) Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that! Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA. -Original Message- Thater, William Sent: Saturday, September

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Thater, William
DENNIS WILLIAMS scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Pete, Bill Just think though. If we'd been smart and acted like it was a terrific thing and anyone with an Oracle Masters was top notch, then maybe we wouldn't have to take all these darned tests. damn! NOW you tell me.;-) -- Bill

DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-05 Thread Stephane Paquette
Hi all, We're an Oracle shop, over 140 Oracle instances. Today, architecture has chosen IBM DB2 for BI projects. The next step I guessed will be to choose DB2 for the new transactionnal applications also. IBM offers DB2 at 25% less than Oracle. I wonder if Oracle 10G will come with a new

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Thater, William
Pete Sharman scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Funny, I found my cost (free) was acceptable ... :) hey, can i help it of Oracle wouldn't hire me?;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA BAARF Party member #25 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
Well, let's look at it from the purely commercial point of view: 1) Is it likely that my company will ever foot the bill for masters exam? Me thinks not. Even OCP was frowned upon, because it was looked upon as acquiring a technical certification that will make it easier for me to leave

RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Stephane We've been very excited about Oracle Standard Edition. Helped stave off the interest in MS SQL. Given the budget pressures at many organizations, I'm surprised we don't hear more about this alternative. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Reginald . W . Bailey
Free? Vat is dis Free? All of us don't work for Oracle (at least not directly) so we don't get that perk. But thanks for sharing. RWB Reginald W. Bailey IBM Global Services - ETS SW

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Mladen I'm dubious whether Oracle will make much money from this one. Maybe someone with better connections to the exam can clarify that one. The payoff on anything is the amount of revenue minus the cost to create. If fewer people take the Masters, then the revenue may not offset the cost.

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Pete Sharman
Don't worry, nor do most Oracle employees. I was asked to be a beta tester of the masters exam, and in return for my review ( we actually spent three days doing the exam because of the amount of time discussing whether questions were valid, how they should be marked and so on), I got to sit the

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: Oracle Masters exam Well, at least all of the Oracle employees can eventually claim to be masters... maybe some of them will filter over and improve the analyst stock. April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas /\ / \ / \ \ / \/ \ \ \ \ Few

Re: external procedure as not-oracle on OS

2003-09-05 Thread Jared . Still
You would need to have extproc run as some user other than oracle. The suggested user on unix systems is 'nobody', with rather limited privileges. Setting it to root might prove dangerous. Jared Henry Poras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/2003 01:29 PM Please respond

No more Oracle development here

2003-09-05 Thread Gabriel Aragon
My company it's moving all the development efforts to SQL Server because the customers don't want to pay Oracle licenses anymore.. Gabriel __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Please

RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
I believe that the answer to Stephane's question is obvious: Oracle 10g will cost 10 grands/ CPU. That's where the letter g is coming from. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Daniel Fink
Let's just cut the crap and start our own Oracle-L Masters (OLM). Qualifications 1) Willingness to answer questions 2) Willingness to ask questions, after RTFM 3) Willingness to publicly admit mistakes and offer corrections 4) Demonstration of advanced knowledge of Oracle 5) Able to back up

Another great respone from Oracle support (not really Friday

2003-09-05 Thread John Shaw
I filed a tar to get all the steps needed to do a new install of 9ias and bring up to the current patch release 9.0.2.3. This is their detailed list of instructions: " After applying 9iAS 9.0.2.0.1, you can/should apply 9.0.2.3 directly..There are some things you need to do

RE: Another great respone from Oracle support (not really Friday

2003-09-05 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message Well, that's obviously Oracle Support version of the old Latin: Idis redibis nunquam in bello peribis. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John ShawSent: Friday, September 05, 2003

Re: No more Oracle development here

2003-09-05 Thread Ryan
what is the difference in cost between sql server and oracle? oracle claims its similiar due to sql server needing more hard ware. now that is probably bull in low end system, but is it accurate in high end systems? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! I think the new certification is Oracle Certified Master, but the old one was just Oracle Master title. I personally spent over $6000 on OCM exam which I took last year (the first public exam). I had to fly to Chicago from other side of the world, because there were no exams available

RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread Steve McClure
I am getting ready to bite the bullet and do this. I have procured a copy of Linux Advanced server to install at home, I have a couple of machines I am going to set up to handle the RAC portions. This is tough for me, because I am one of the largest RAC skeptics about. Of course I had to be

offshoring article

2003-09-05 Thread Ryan
Here is a link to an article from McKinsey Co. My favorite positive is that offshoring IT jobs frees Americans up to do other jobs. Now they dont say 'what' jobs, but we are free to do them. If you dont know these are the guys who payed Chelsea Clinton 100k/year right out of college with no

RE: Oracle World - Listers get together (proposed Tuesday Sep 9)

2003-09-05 Thread Steve McClure
I will try to be there as well. Possibly two of us, Alec Macdonell who lurks about this list as well. Steve McClure -Original Message- John Kanagaraj Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, We talked about this earlier and I wanted

COBOL to Oracle

2003-09-05 Thread JRicard982
Hi List, Does anyone know of tools, or have had experience using tools, that will quickly convert COBOL code to Oracle. Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Rick

Re: No more Oracle development here

2003-09-05 Thread Jared . Still
So they're getting SQL Server for free? Why not use MySQL or PostreSQL? Jared Gabriel Aragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/2003 03:24 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:No

Re: question for internals experts

2003-09-05 Thread Jared . Still
Sounds like you want to rename a tablespace. Not recommended without approval from Oracle support. Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/2003 01:09 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:

Re: No more Oracle development here

2003-09-05 Thread Joe Testa
I agree, mysql is kinda like oracle v6. joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So they're getting SQL Server for free? Why not use MySQL or PostreSQL? Jared *Gabriel Aragon [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/2003 03:24 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:

Re: question for internals experts

2003-09-05 Thread Ryan
not my call. i posted this on here before. was done that way before i got here. Its part of the transportable tablespace plan since you cant have multiple tablespaces with the same name in one instance. I found some interesting(and troublesome things). I think Oracle may not be telling us

RE: COBOL to Oracle

2003-09-05 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Do you mean that the COBOL code would be translated to PL/SQL packages, or that the COBOL I/O would be changed to SQL insert/update/select using Pro*COBOL instead of READ and WRITE? Or do you mean that the COBOL programs would be automagically transformed into an Oracle database? One datafile

RE: question for internals experts

2003-09-05 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Or unless you have Oracle 10G. rgaffuri, are you still updating TS$, you rascal? You could try the following: set long 100 spool c:\temp\views.log select a.view_name, a.text from dba_views a where a.owner = 'SYS' and a.view_name like 'DBA\_%' escape '\' and exists (select *

RE: question for internals experts

2003-09-05 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
I think this would be the perfect time for you, as DBA, to explain to the Powers That Be that updating SYS.TS$ is a BAD idea and that the transportable tablespace plan has to change. You have damning evidence at this point in time. You will be doing yourself and your successors a big favour.

Re: question for internals experts

2003-09-05 Thread Ryan
nah, we can afford to rebuild the instances. its just for staging anyway. Im now more curious what is going on. I dont think its in the datafile. I think there is more going on in memory than Oracle is releasing. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

Re: COBOL to Oracle

2003-09-05 Thread Stephane Faroult
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, Does anyone know of tools, or have had experience using tools, that will quickly convert COBOL code to Oracle. Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Rick What do you mean by converting Cobol to Oracle ?

Re: question for internals experts

2003-09-05 Thread Stephane Faroult
... A stupid solution might be to prefix the name of each tablespace with the name of the database it was created in ... you might have to play with users' quotas to allow them to create tables in the tablespaces you have plugged in but it is infinitely better than updating SYS tables ... I have

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