Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Maggie Banks midwifery intensive

2004-11-01 Thread Callum Kirsten
If she could fit in Darwin too, it would be great! There are a few kiwi midwives up here! Kirsten Darwin ~~~start life with a midwife~~~ - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Maggie Banks midwifery intensive

2004-11-01 Thread Nicole Carver
I'm sure there would be plenty of interest from Bendigo too! Nicole Carver. - Original Message - From: ID AC Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Maggie Banks midwifery intensive Andrea I would definately

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2004-10-30 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Thats interesting Marilyn as I have never heard of this being done. Everywhere I have ever worked( not many institutions I admit) give the anti D and thats it. No follow up is done. What do other

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2004-10-29 Thread Judy Chapman
, October 28, 2004 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: That was my point and so the woman was given a further dose of Anti D. Apparently the pathologist has followed up on the issue with CSL but I have not had the opportunity to talk to him yet Andrea On Tuesday, October 26, 2004

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2004-10-28 Thread Andrea Quanchi
That was my point and so the woman was given a further dose of Anti D. Apparently the pathologist has followed up on the issue with CSL but I have not had the opportunity to talk to him yet Andrea On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, at 08:22 , JoFromOz wrote: Andrea Quanchi wrote: I had one case

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2004-10-28 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
(and if it is Rh positive). marilyn - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: That was my point and so the woman was given a further dose of Anti D. Apparently the pathologist has followed

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: anit-D

2004-10-26 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Sara Wickhams amazing and informative site is http://www.withwoman.co.uk/. marilyn - Original Message - From: Kristin Beckedahl To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:56 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: anit-D Thanks for that info

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2004-10-26 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Nicole, The reasoning behind the 72 hour after birth time frame is that this is the time it takes for the bodies immune response to kick in if confronted by rh +ve antibodies due to a sensitising event (such as birth). It is not how long the antibodies last for. Therefore the reasoning behind

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2004-10-26 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Nicole: I think perhaps you are confusing giving anti-D prophylactically (usually given once at 28weeks if antibody negative and then again postnatally if the baby is Rh pos) with treating a possible sensitising event. When given prophylactically the life of the antibodies is thought to be

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2004-10-26 Thread Nicole Carver
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Nicole: I think perhaps you are confusing giving anti-D prophylactically (usually given once at 28weeks if antibody negative and then again postnatally if the baby is Rh pos) with treating a possible

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2004-10-26 Thread JoFromOz
Andrea Quanchi wrote: I had one case recently where pathology decided that there was enough remaining that anti D was not required after birth even though she had an rh +ve baby. That could be true, but who knows exactly how much (if any) rh+ blood got into mum's blood stream. Surely they

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2004-10-26 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Andrea Quanchi wrote: I had one case recently where pathology decided that there was enough remaining that anti D was not required after birth even though she had an rh +ve baby. That could be true, but who

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Birth dose Hep B

2004-10-26 Thread Deliverywoman
Hi Nicole, I would just like to reply regarding your comments on the 'true informed consent'. As with most contentious issues regarding the pregnancy/ childbirth arena,within the many different health care providers and institutionsaround, thereare those that are great, good, not so good and of

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2004-10-25 Thread Lieve Huybrechts
Hoi Kristin and Nicole, You can find good information on www.withwoman.co.uk, click on 'articles' and you will find 'anti -D/Rogham' and 'antenatal anti -d'. Sarah Wickham explores in those articles the reasons, evidence, beliefs and risks about the policy on anti-d. I just returned from the

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: anit-D

2004-10-25 Thread Kristin Beckedahl
Thanks for that info Marilyn! Could you direct me to the articles of Sara Wickham's you spoke of? Cheers, K. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question

2004-10-20 Thread Sylvia Boutsalis
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy McCarthy-Bushby Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2004 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question Slyvia, An ultrasound scan is not 100% accurate as we all know. Ultrasounds can fail to pick up significant abnornalities or suggest

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question

2004-10-20 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Sylvia There are many questions regarding the accuracy and implications of Ultra sounds and those who use. I suggest you go the the AIMS Site and you will find some of their articless ,booklets and journals and start to research the topic as well as the findings of this one U/s

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question

2004-10-20 Thread Julie Clarke
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy McCarthy-Bushby Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2004 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question Slyvia, An ultrasound scan is not 100% accurate as we all know. Ultrasounds can fail to pick up significant

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question

2004-10-19 Thread Sally Westbury
I would approach this something along the lines of. If the baby is not 'normal' would you rather be prepared so that appropriate treatment is ready? Then do it Or if the baby is not 'normal' would you rather meet the baby and then deal with what needs to happen? Then don't do it. So I

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question

2004-10-19 Thread leanne wynne
Sylvia, My initial gut feeling is that your sister-in-law is right to believe that nothing is wrong. So often I have seen terrible fear dumped on women unecessarily due to some anomaly on an ultrasound scan ... especially if the measurement was done 5 times and only once was it slightly

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question

2004-10-19 Thread Fiona Craig Rumble
Dear Sylvia, Are the spaces due to choroid plexus cysts? My sister was told with her first son in-uterothat he had spaces in his brain that were indicative of a chromosomal disorder and he also had other 'soft' signs such as receding chin. She had a real dilemma and I think chose the amnio.

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question

2004-10-19 Thread Fiona Craig Rumble
Sylvia, should have added that these spaces are quite common and disappear of their own accord at birth. Fiona

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question

2004-10-19 Thread Kathy McCarthy-Bushby
about asking women when discussing having the 18 - 20 week ultrasound. I hope this helps you during this difficult time kathy - Original Message - From: leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: What the Pollies are offering Midwifery? and women

2004-10-08 Thread Veronica
, 2000 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: What the Pollies are offering Midwifery? and women The Families First Party , despite their denials ,has a very strongconnection to the Assemblies of God church for those who like a strongreligous/moral element to their politics . Interesting

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: What the Pollies are offering Midwifery? and women

2004-10-08 Thread A C Palmer
Good Luck tomorrow Carolyn. Cath Palmer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carolyn Hastie Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 1:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OzMid List; MC Committee; MC NSW Branch; Nat exec; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: What the Pollies are offering Midwifery? and women

2004-10-08 Thread Stringybark
I wonder how one can defend Mr Nalliah by quoting from the Bible? Would one accept a defence of Mao Zedong's view of human rights by quoting from the Little Red Book? Or Hitler, by quoting from Mein Kampf? If one uses the Bible to defend people and their attitudes because it is thought that the

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: What the Pollies are offering Midwifery? and women

2004-10-08 Thread Abby and Toby
Indeed, the Bible is full of dreadful cruelties towards women and children. Most of them God ordained...David Hi David, The Bible also has some beautiful and amazing things about women, children and babies. I don't want to get into a "it says, he says, she says" kind of thing, but just

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: What the Pollies are offering Midwifery? and women

2004-10-08 Thread axelbys
Hi David, what does one do with II Sam 11-14? In this lovely part we find out that because David sinned, God kills David's innocent child. I guess it depends on the way you see this passage. As you can see from Davids response I will go to him, but he will not return to me. He knew

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: FOR INFO: primary accouchuer

2004-10-07 Thread gresch
Hi all, thanks for passing this on and making sense of it, at least I understand it better. cheers Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dr Barbara Vernon Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 5:04 PM To: ozmidwifery (ozmidwifery) Subject:

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: What the Pollies are offering Midwifery? and women

2004-10-07 Thread Elissa and David
The Families First Party , despite their denials ,has a very strong connection to the Assemblies of God church for those who like a strong religous/moral element to their politics . Interesting quote from one of their candidates - Mr Nalliah, who heads the Catch the Fire Ministries, is on the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-05 Thread Abby and Toby
I believe that you are coming from the right place in your heart, but sometimes we need to take a step back think about how others may perceive us if we want to be listened to at all. I am speaking as someone who has learnt this lesson skill recently. Your opinion is valued.Philippa

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-05 Thread leanne wynne
-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:22:46 +1000 To be honest, I would be very worrisome about an independent midwife whose clients have a 12% rupture rate. Hi Abby, I am sorry I wasn't very clear - I didn't mean

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Belinda Maier
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998 While I do not support the notion that women desiring vbac are considered high risk or obstetric care, I do believe that once a decision is made to augment and/or induce

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
- Original Message - From: Abby and Toby To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998 While I do not support the notion that women desiring vbac are considered high risk or obstetric care, I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Abby and Toby
Hi Belinda, I will throw a flame - what is a traditional midwife and why is this person always without faults and seemingly all knowledgeable and sanctified. I don't think anyone thinks that traditional midwives are without faults or sanctified, however, I do believe that in their

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Trish David
Abby, could I ask where you are studying midwifery??? I've read a fair bit about 'wise' women, don't romanticise some half-forgotten past. Don't idealise a model of training and education that isn't open to the scrutiny and evaluation of all its stakeholders. To talk about traditionally trained

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Trish David
Yikes, just re-read this. In the paragraph below where I invoke Shakespeare, the rose I am refering to is the generic but critical midwife, not the lovely Nicky, who could rightly be called a rose, but not in the context below. Nicky is very respectful of her midwife colleagues. Trish Trish David

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Sally Westbury
: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998 While I do not support the notion that women desiring vbac are considered high risk or obstetric care, I do believe that once a decision is made to augment and/or induce a labour then the obstetrician needs to be consulted referred to and obstetric

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread axelbys
(independent) who believe the percentage for uterine rupture after a caeser to be around 12%. Amanda -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abby and Toby Sent: Monday, 4 October 2004 2:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Abby and Toby
I have spoken to a woman who ruptured after a very natural homebirth. It can happen even when all seems to be going well and no intervention has occurred fortunately she was okay although it was touch and go at one stage. She can no longer have children. I know midwives(independent) who

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Abby and Toby
There is such a wide variation about how people are trained. I feel pretty lucky to have has midwifery training and then apprenticed with a group of midwives. I worked for about 18 more months as the apprentice. This was a fantastic time. One of the women who inspired me (Hi Annie Pop) told

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread ljg
Abby I know of a woman who ruptured her uterus during a spontaneous, unaugmented, un-induced, un-ARM ed, normal VBAC labour! And it was partially due to the skill of the midwife who recognised the subtle changes in the maternal pulse, pain level etc prior to the catastrophic decrease in

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Abby and Toby
The system is not perfect and in many cases is abhorrent, but comments such as yours makes one wonder why one bothers at all! How far does it go when we discuss the traditional midwife? Are we all to be walking around drunk, with warts on our noses?! Sorry couldnt help that!!

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread axelbys
To be honest, I would be very worrisome about an independent midwife whose clients have a 12% rupture rate. Hi Abby, I am sorry I wasnt very clear - I didnt mean the independent midwife had that rate, rather that is the rate she mentioned to me that she has heard of. Often you

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-04 Thread Philippa Scott
Abby, as a Mum, Consumer Doula I appreciate very much the fact that the midwives on this list allow us to be part of their discussions. I believe that they are just as interested in our perspectives as they are those of their colleagues. What seems to be happening Abby is that you are

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-03 Thread Fiona Craig Rumble
Thanks Marilyn, Can I ask, do all places that facilitate childbirth have completely different policy and procedure protocols or is there a universal code that all midwives must stick to? Thanks Fiona

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-03 Thread Trish David
I find this really interesting as well, in that the doctor was believed that VE wasn't brought to her attention, and the midwife was not, but also that she needed direction from a doctor or senior midwife to do one. This is exactly my point, that it has become a medical procedure and therefore

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998

2004-10-03 Thread Abby and Toby
While I do not support the notion that women desiring vbac are considered high risk or obstetric care, I do believe that once a decision is made to augment and/or induce a labour then the obstetrician needs to be consulted referred to and obstetric protocols need to be followed if the

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2004-09-29 Thread Callum Kirsten
I recieved the email, i think it still went to all the list. Kirsten ~~~start life with a midwife~~~ - Original Message - From: Ken WArd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 12:37 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: Stacey, you have come in on my home

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-16 Thread Leanne Veitch
Hi, Re the leather - that's actually the way a lot of vegans live. I can honestly say that I do not (knowingly) posses or consume any animal products whatsoever with one exception only - I *do* travel on PT and in cars that contain animal products in their tyres, as this is completely

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-14 Thread Judy Chapman
I guess if we took this 'pro all life' argument to the extreme then we would not have leather in our lounges, cars, shoes. There is a school of thought out there that plants scream when cut so I guess we don't cut any, don't rip veges off the tree/vine, don't fell trees etc!!! Cheers Judy ---

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA

2004-09-14 Thread Tanya drumm
: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:40:45 +0930 Re BMid SAYes the external can be full time 3 years or part time over up to 6 years. We have only been able to do part time this year, but the course is fully full time external as of next year! Kirsten (another unisa external student

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
More quotes and generosity of spirit thank you Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead - Original Message - From: Belinda Maier To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Violence is perpetrated against women and children all over the world, lets not equate abortion in this, lets make the world a better place for women and children to be born into and to live. I'm not sure that I quite understand what you are saying, but I think you are saying that we

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Vegetarianism and abortion, I find that incredibly ridiculous! I just can't get this comment out of my head. It is so ridiculous...so ridiculous that some women don't eat meat because they don't want to harm or killan animal, yet they will willfully, and by choice, harm and kill

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: drug use in pregnancy

2004-09-13 Thread sally
: Nicole Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: drug use in pregnancy Thank you Belinda - I too hope that she recieves the extra support you mentioned (and that it is actually available here!) - both ante and post

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
t: Monday, September 13, 2004 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc Vegetarianism and abortion, I find that incredibly ridiculous! I just can't get this comment out of my head. It is so ridiculous...so ridiculous that some women don't eat meat bec

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc Abby, use your passion to work to reduce unwanted pregnancies, rather than judge those who make such a difficult choice. Just wanted to make it clear that I judge the action, not the woman. A very good friend of mine had an abortion, I love her

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
I don't find it ridiculous that you would say it. Vegetarians are often held to much "higher" expectations than others, but just in case you hadn't noticed they are human too and liable to all such vagaries. Apparently refusing to eat animals or objecting to animal cruelty implies one is

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA

2004-09-12 Thread Marguerite Perkins
Hi Sue I found out about Uni SA external BMid program a week or two ago after buying the NSW/ACT uni book and finding UT (Syd) BMid ( due to start 2005) unlisted. I browsed a bit and found Uni SA. I emailed Beth Grinter who sent me info re external study BMid at Uni SA . It has, to date, only

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2004-09-12 Thread Denise Hynd
: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Hi again Also found this one: http://www.inamay.com/ Happy reading! Katrina :-) On 10/09/2004, at 8:25 PM, Ceri Katrina wrote: Hi everyone I found these links http://www.thefarmcommunity.com/inamay.htm http

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2004-09-12 Thread Ceri Katrina
- Original Message - From: Ceri Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Hi again Also found this one: http://www.inamay.com/ Happy reading! Katrina :-) On 10/09/2004, at 8:25 PM, Ceri Katrina wrote: Hi everyone I found

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2004-09-12 Thread Liz Newnham
I had the luck to read this book in my first pregnancy over 10 years ago. As a result I spent the weeks leading up to the birth in excitement and awe (no fear whatsoever). I think it's a fantastic book, and I still read it now and then as a midwife, just to keep me grounded in the spirit of

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA

2004-09-11 Thread Callum Kirsten
Title: Re BMid SA Yes the external can be full time 3 years or part time over up to 6 years. We have only been able to do part time this year, but the course is fully full time external as of next year! Kirsten (another unisa external student!) Darwin. ~~~start life with a midwife~~~

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA

2004-09-11 Thread Tania Laurie
Title: Re BMid SA Hi Sue I don't think there is an external 3 year program - but then I didn't know there was an external 6 year program either!! Frommy understanding there are only certain subjects in the 3 year program that can be undertaken externally. Perhaps you could contact the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA

2004-09-11 Thread Tania Laurie
Title: Re BMid SA Hi again Sue The info I posted before was for pre-registration or direct entry. I know you can do post-reg entirely external if you want to. Tania - Original Message - From: Sue Cookson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA

2004-09-11 Thread Dean Jo
: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA Hi again Sue The info I posted before was for pre-registration or direct entry. I know you can do post-reg entirely external if you want to. Tania - Original Message - From: Sue Cookson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

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2004-09-11 Thread Ceri Katrina
. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have. Margaret Mead - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Ina May has produced more recent versions and she has a newly

Re: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up!

2004-09-10 Thread Jackie Kitschke
I just thought you must have fallen asleep on the send button!! Jackie - Original Message - From: Dean Jo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:31 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up! I am sooo sorry this has

RE: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up!

2004-09-10 Thread Judy Giesaitis
It certainly got our attention though!! -Original Message-From: Jackie Kitschke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, 10 September 2004 3:58 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up! I just thought you must have fallen asleep on the send

Re: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up!

2004-09-10 Thread Dean Jo
who cant make any event tomorrow, perhaps you can still contribute to NCAD by lighting a candle. - Original Message - From: Judy Giesaitis To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up

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2004-09-10 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Ina May has produced more recent versions and she has a newly published CBE book called Ina May's guide to childbirth which is a good read. The Farm midwives still practice, in fact many women with twins or breeches on board will travel to The Farm to birth in one of the birthing cabins. The

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2004-09-10 Thread Trish David
And 'all fours' is called the Gaskin Manoeuvre when discussing strategies for dealing with shoulder dystocia because of her work in mapping and measuring the pelvis It's interesting that the groundbreakers of yesteryear are sometimes viewed with mild amusement or as eccentrics (a bit like

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2004-09-10 Thread Denise Hynd
. Margaret Mead - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Ina May has produced more recent versions and she has a newly published CBE book called Ina May's guide to childbirth

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2004-09-10 Thread Ceri Katrina
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Ina May has produced more recent versions and she has a newly published CBE book called Ina May's guide to childbirth which is a good read. The Farm midwives still practice, in fact many women

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2004-09-10 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
and the earth and many other things too I am sure. marilyn - Original Message - From: Trish David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: And 'all fours' is called the Gaskin Manoeuvre when discussing strategies

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2004-09-10 Thread Lieve Huybrechts
. They live in an atmosphere of respect for women and children and there abilitys. They have great outcomes. warm greetings Lieve - Original Message - From: Ceri Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Hi

Re: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up!

2004-09-09 Thread jayne
Forgiven :) - Original Message - From: Dean Jo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:01 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up! I am sooo sorry this has happened I have NO idea why this has happened! I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Jo,a rave and a vent- was Re: [ozmidwifery] Please explain CYOTEC??

2004-08-07 Thread Abby and Toby
I get mad and sad and sad and mad and then really bloody furious!! Don't most of us women that want birthing experiences to be wonderful for women. I have heard that ridiculous thing about not videoing. Seriously??!! It's not legal anyway, it could never be legal to stop someone filming their own

Re: [ozmidwifery] re interview

2004-07-28 Thread Honey Acharya
Pinky SorryI can't figure out your email address to email offlist. I sufferred with severe morning sickness - hyperemesis gravidarum in two pregnancies, I have one child a 10 month old daughter. I am also in contact with a number of other previous and current hyperemesis sufferers around

Re: [ozmidwifery] re interview

2004-07-28 Thread Pinky McKay
: [ozmidwifery] re interview Pinky SorryI can't figure out your email address to email offlist. I sufferred with severe morning sickness - hyperemesis gravidarum in two pregnancies, I have one child a 10 month old daughter. I am also in contact with a number of other previous

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2004-07-28 Thread Honey Acharya
: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re interview Hi Honey -I wil forward your email to Eve hanks at Mother and Baby -I have another person from the list as well - its great. Thanks. pinky - Original Message - From: Honey

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Pregnancy rocker

2004-07-23 Thread Tania Smallwood
What do others think about the use of birthing/exercise balls for this purpose? We use them with the women we birth with, and as long as the ball is of a large enough diameter, the knees are lower than the hips, I reckon they would have to be a suitable and cost effective substitute, with the

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2004-07-23 Thread Wendy Taberer
but worked for her...! and that's what counts Wendy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania Smallwood Sent: 23 July 2004 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Pregnancy rocker What do others think about the use of birthing

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday

2004-05-18 Thread Pinky McKay
are quite cozy but I feel good to be able to share this support. Pinky - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday Go Pinky:) Alesa

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2004-05-17 Thread Judy Giesaitis
good on you Pinky such a shame I was in transit, take care Judy Giesaitis -Original Message-

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2004-05-17 Thread Judy Chapman
are best is a start. I have had good feedback but I guess people didnt know whathad been planned initially. All comments welcome Pinky - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday GRRR I

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2004-05-16 Thread JoFromOz
GRRR I can't believe I forgot to watch! What happened?? Jo

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2004-05-16 Thread Pinky McKay
are best is a start. I have had good feedback but I guess people didnt know whathad been planned initially. All comments welcome Pinky - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show

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2004-05-15 Thread Nicole Christensen
Thank goodness they asked YOU to challenge this woman advocatingsuch awful ideas. I remember first seeing you on ACA a long while ago... where you were challenging controlled (er..'cruel') crying. I e-mailed you immediately - as you spoke from my heart. Babies everywhere are SO lucky to have

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2004-05-15 Thread Pinky McKay
. If we can give "evidence" for our stance mothers are big enough to make responsible choices and babytraining isnt evidence based. pinky - Original Message - From: Nicole Christensen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:17 PM Subj

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2004-05-15 Thread jo
: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday hi Nicole - Thanks for your support. It loosk like I may end up against somebody else. I actually had a phone conversation with Tizzie today (she requested it by email) - her bark isnt near as bad as the bite we have seen in Practical Parenting. She actually says

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2004-05-15 Thread Melinda Whyman
, May 16, 2004 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday Hi Abby - I have been feeling supicious this am about the motives behind the call yesterday - sounds like we may have similar instincts! I have heard nothing from the producer so maybe I was being "soften

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday

2004-05-14 Thread abby_toby
Go Pinky! Go Pinky! I am so excited that you will be debating with her. That woman makes my blood boil! Not only is she the Practical Parenting sleep expert but her latest article is all about her as the breastfeeding expert! She is incredibly archaic in her beliefs and completely goes against

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday

2004-05-14 Thread abby_toby
Go Pinky! Go Pinky! I am so excited that you will be debating with her. That woman makes my blood boil! Not only is she the Practical Parenting sleep expert but her latest article is all about her as the breastfeeding expert! She is incredibly archaic in her beliefs and completely goes against

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday

2004-05-14 Thread Abby and Toby
Oopps! Sorry for the double post, I'm not quite sure what happened there. Love Abby - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery @ acegraphics . com . au [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday Go Pinky

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2004-05-14 Thread Alesa Koziol
Go Pinky:) Alesa - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:37 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday Hi all, I will be on the Today Show on Monday at 8.10am - debating agaisnt Tizzie Hall

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2004-05-14 Thread Pinky McKay
Much appreciated anyway! Thanks for your support pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: Abby and Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday Oopps! Sorry for the double post, I'm

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2004-05-12 Thread Mary Murphy
Is this link a legitimate one? I would hate to connect find I got a virus site. MM - Original Message - From: mail.bigpond.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE:

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2004-05-12 Thread Jen Semple
This is a virus! Do not click on the link.Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this link a legitimate one? I would hate to connect find I got a virus site. MM - Original Message - From: mail.bigpond.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:40 AM Subject:

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