If she could fit in Darwin too, it would be great! There are a few kiwi
midwives up here!
Kirsten
Darwin
~~~start life with a midwife~~~
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From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery
I'm sure there would be plenty of interest from Bendigo too!
Nicole Carver.
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From: ID AC Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:15 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Maggie Banks midwifery intensive
Andrea
I would definately
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Thats interesting Marilyn as I have never heard of this being done.
Everywhere I have ever worked( not many institutions I admit) give the
anti D and thats it. No follow up is done. What do other
, October 28, 2004 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
That was my point and so the woman was given a further dose
of Anti D.
Apparently the pathologist has followed up on the issue
with CSL but I
have not had the opportunity to talk to him yet
Andrea
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004
That was my point and so the woman was given a further dose of Anti D.
Apparently the pathologist has followed up on the issue with CSL but I
have not had the opportunity to talk to him yet
Andrea
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, at 08:22 , JoFromOz wrote:
Andrea Quanchi wrote:
I had one case
(and if it is Rh positive).
marilyn
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From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
That was my point and so the woman was given a further dose of Anti D.
Apparently the pathologist has followed
Sara Wickhams amazing and informative site is
http://www.withwoman.co.uk/.
marilyn
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From:
Kristin
Beckedahl
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:56
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re:
anit-D
Thanks for that info
Nicole,
The reasoning behind the 72 hour after birth time frame is that this is
the time it takes for the bodies immune response to kick in if
confronted by rh +ve antibodies due to a sensitising event (such as
birth). It is not how long the antibodies last for. Therefore the
reasoning behind
Nicole:
I think perhaps you are confusing giving anti-D prophylactically (usually
given once at 28weeks if antibody negative and then again postnatally if the
baby is Rh pos) with treating a possible sensitising event.
When given prophylactically the life of the antibodies is thought to be
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Nicole:
I think perhaps you are confusing giving anti-D prophylactically (usually
given once at 28weeks if antibody negative and then again postnatally if
the
baby is Rh pos) with treating a possible
Andrea Quanchi wrote:
I had one case recently where pathology decided that there was enough
remaining that anti D was not required after birth even though she had
an rh +ve baby.
That could be true, but who knows exactly how much (if any) rh+ blood
got into mum's blood stream. Surely they
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
Andrea Quanchi wrote:
I had one case recently where pathology decided that there was enough
remaining that anti D was not required after birth even though she had
an rh +ve baby.
That could be true, but who
Hi Nicole,
I would just like to reply regarding your comments on the 'true informed consent'. As with most contentious issues regarding the pregnancy/ childbirth arena,within the many different health care providers and institutionsaround, thereare those that are great, good, not so good and of
Hoi Kristin and Nicole,
You can find good information on www.withwoman.co.uk, click on 'articles'
and you will find 'anti -D/Rogham' and 'antenatal anti -d'.
Sarah Wickham explores in those articles the reasons, evidence, beliefs and
risks about the policy on anti-d.
I just returned from the
Thanks for that info Marilyn! Could you direct me to the articles of Sara Wickham's you spoke of? Cheers, K.
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McCarthy-Bushby
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2004 10:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question
Slyvia,
An ultrasound scan is not 100% accurate as we all know. Ultrasounds can
fail to pick up significant abnornalities or suggest
Dear Sylvia
There are many questions regarding the accuracy and implications of Ultra
sounds and those who use.
I suggest you go the the AIMS Site and you will find some of their articless
,booklets and journals and start to research the topic as well as the
findings of this one U/s
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McCarthy-Bushby
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2004 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question
Slyvia,
An ultrasound scan is not 100% accurate as we all know. Ultrasounds can
fail to pick up significant
I would approach this something along the lines of.
If the baby is not 'normal' would you rather be prepared so that
appropriate treatment is ready? Then do it
Or if the baby is not 'normal' would you rather meet the baby
and then deal with what needs to happen? Then don't do it.
So I
Sylvia,
My initial gut feeling is that your sister-in-law is right to believe that
nothing is wrong. So often I have seen terrible fear dumped on women
unecessarily due to some anomaly on an ultrasound scan ... especially if the
measurement was done 5 times and only once was it slightly
Dear Sylvia, Are the spaces due to choroid plexus
cysts? My sister was told with her first son in-uterothat he had
spaces in his brain that were indicative of a chromosomal disorder and he also
had other 'soft' signs such as receding chin. She had a real dilemma and I think
chose the amnio.
Sylvia, should have added that these spaces are
quite common and disappear of their own accord at birth.
Fiona
about asking women when
discussing having the 18 - 20 week ultrasound.
I hope this helps you during this difficult time
kathy
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From: leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE
, 2000 12:34
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: What the
Pollies are offering Midwifery? and women
The Families First Party , despite their denials ,has a very
strongconnection to the Assemblies of God church for those who like a
strongreligous/moral element to their politics . Interesting
Good Luck tomorrow Carolyn.
Cath Palmer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Hastie
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 1:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OzMid List; MC Committee; MC
NSW Branch; Nat exec; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
I wonder how one can defend Mr Nalliah by quoting from the Bible?
Would one accept a defence of Mao Zedong's view of human rights by quoting from the Little Red Book?
Or Hitler, by quoting from Mein Kampf?
If one uses the Bible to defend people and their attitudes because it is thought that the
Indeed, the Bible is full of
dreadful cruelties towards women and children. Most of them God
ordained...David
Hi David,
The Bible also has some beautiful and amazing
things about women, children and babies. I don't want to get into a "it says, he
says, she says" kind of thing, but just
Hi David,
what does one do with II Sam
11-14? In this lovely part we find out that because David sinned, God kills
David's innocent child.
I guess it depends on the way you see this
passage. As you can see from Davids
response I will go to him, but he will not return to me.
He knew
Hi all,
thanks for passing this on and making sense of it, at least I understand it better.
cheers
Megan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dr Barbara Vernon
Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 5:04 PM
To: ozmidwifery (ozmidwifery)
Subject:
The Families First Party , despite their denials ,has a very strong
connection to the Assemblies of God church for those who like a strong
religous/moral element to their politics . Interesting quote from one of
their candidates -
Mr Nalliah, who heads the Catch the Fire Ministries, is on the
I believe that you are coming from the
right place in your heart, but sometimes we need to take a step back think
about how others may perceive us if we want to be listened to at all. I am
speaking as someone who has learnt this lesson skill recently. Your
opinion is valued.Philippa
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine rupture 1998
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:22:46 +1000
To be honest, I would be very worrisome about an independent midwife
whose clients have a 12% rupture rate.
Hi Abby,
I am sorry I wasn't very clear - I didn't mean
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:25
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine
rupture 1998
While I do not support the notion
that women desiring vbac are considered high risk or obstetric care, I do
believe that once a decision is made to augment and/or induce
- Original Message -
From:
Abby and Toby
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:55
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: uterine
rupture 1998
While I do not support the notion
that women desiring vbac are considered high risk or obstetric care, I
Hi Belinda,
I will throw a flame - what is a
traditional midwife and why is this person always without faults and seemingly
all knowledgeable and sanctified.
I don't think anyone thinks that traditional
midwives are without faults or sanctified, however, I do believe that in their
Abby, could I ask where you are studying midwifery???
I've read a fair bit about 'wise' women, don't romanticise some half-forgotten
past. Don't idealise a model of training and education that isn't open
to the scrutiny and evaluation of all its stakeholders. To talk about traditionally
trained
Yikes, just re-read this. In the paragraph below where I invoke
Shakespeare, the rose I am refering to is the generic but critical
midwife, not the lovely Nicky, who could rightly be called a rose, but
not in the context below. Nicky is very respectful of her midwife
colleagues. Trish
Trish David
: [ozmidwifery] Re:
uterine rupture 1998
While I do not support the
notion that women desiring vbac are considered high risk or obstetric care, I
do believe that once a decision is made to augment and/or induce a labour then
the obstetrician needs to be consulted referred to and obstetric
(independent) who believe the
percentage for uterine rupture after a caeser to be
around 12%.
Amanda
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Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Abby and Toby
Sent: Monday, 4 October 2004 2:55
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re
I have spoken
to a woman who ruptured after a very natural homebirth. It can happen even when all seems to be
going well and no intervention has occurred fortunately she was okay although
it was touch and go at one stage.
She can no longer have children. I know midwives(independent) who
There is such a
wide variation about how people are trained. I feel pretty lucky to have has
midwifery training and then apprenticed with a group of midwives. I worked for
about 18 more months as the apprentice. This was a fantastic time. One of the
women who inspired me (Hi Annie Pop) told
Abby
I know of a woman who ruptured her uterus
during a spontaneous, unaugmented, un-induced, un-ARM ed, normal VBAC labour!
And it was partially due to the skill of the midwife who recognised the subtle
changes in the maternal pulse, pain level etc prior to the catastrophic
decrease in
The system is
not perfect and in many cases is abhorrent, but comments such as yours makes one
wonder why one bothers at all!
How far does it go when
we discuss the traditional midwife? Are we all to be walking around drunk,
with warts on our noses?! Sorry couldnt help that!!
To be honest, I would be very worrisome
about an independent midwife whose clients have a 12% rupture rate.
Hi Abby,
I am sorry I wasnt very clear - I didnt mean the independent
midwife had that rate, rather that is the rate she mentioned to me that she has
heard of. Often you
Abby, as a Mum, Consumer Doula I appreciate
very much the fact that the midwives on this list allow us to be part of their
discussions. I believe that they are just as interested in our perspectives as
they are those of their colleagues. What seems to be happening Abby is that you
are
Thanks Marilyn, Can I ask, do all places that
facilitate childbirth have completely different policy and procedure protocols
or is there a universal code that all midwives must stick to? Thanks
Fiona
I find this really interesting as well, in that the doctor was believed
that VE wasn't brought to her attention, and the midwife was not, but also
that she needed direction from a doctor or senior midwife to do one. This
is exactly my point, that it has become a medical procedure and therefore
While I do not support the notion
that women desiring vbac are considered high risk or obstetric care, I do
believe that once a decision is made to augment and/or induce a labour then the
obstetrician needs to be consulted referred to and obstetric protocols need to
be followed if the
I recieved the email, i think it still went to all the list.
Kirsten
~~~start life with a midwife~~~
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From: Ken WArd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 12:37 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE:
Stacey, you have come in on my home
Hi,
Re the leather - that's actually the way a lot of vegans live. I can
honestly say that I do not (knowingly) posses or consume any animal
products whatsoever with one exception only - I *do* travel on PT and in
cars that contain animal products in their tyres, as this is completely
I guess if we took this 'pro all life' argument to the extreme
then we would not have leather in our lounges, cars, shoes.
There is a school of thought out there that plants scream when
cut so I guess we don't cut any, don't rip veges off the
tree/vine, don't fell trees etc!!!
Cheers
Judy
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: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:40:45 +0930
Re BMid SAYes the external can be full time 3 years or part time over up to
6 years.
We have only been able to do part time this year, but the course is fully
full time external as of next year!
Kirsten
(another unisa external student
More quotes and generosity of spirit
thank you
Denise Hynd
"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For,
indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead
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From:
Belinda
Maier
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Violence is perpetrated against women and children
all over the world, lets not equate abortion in this, lets make the world a
better place for women and children to be born into and to
live.
I'm not sure that I quite understand what you are saying,
but I think you are saying that we
Vegetarianism and abortion, I find that incredibly
ridiculous!
I just can't get this comment out of my head. It is
so ridiculous...so ridiculous that some women don't eat meat because
they don't want to harm or killan animal, yet they will willfully, and by
choice, harm and kill
: Nicole Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: drug use in pregnancy
Thank you Belinda - I too hope that she recieves the extra support you
mentioned (and that it is actually available here!) - both ante and
post
t: Monday, September 13, 2004 4:54
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion
etc
Vegetarianism and abortion, I find that incredibly
ridiculous!
I just can't get this comment out of my head. It
is so ridiculous...so ridiculous that some women don't eat meat
bec
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc
Abby, use your passion to work to reduce
unwanted pregnancies, rather than judge those who make such a difficult
choice.
Just wanted to make
it clear that I judge the action, not the woman. A very good
friend of mine had an abortion, I love her
I don't find it ridiculous that you would
say it. Vegetarians are often held to much "higher" expectations than others,
but just in case you hadn't noticed they are human too and liable to all such
vagaries. Apparently refusing to eat animals or objecting to animal
cruelty implies one is
Hi Sue
I found out about Uni SA external BMid program a week
or two ago after buying the NSW/ACT uni book and
finding UT (Syd) BMid ( due to start 2005) unlisted.
I browsed a bit and found Uni SA. I emailed Beth
Grinter who sent me info re external study BMid at Uni
SA . It has, to date, only
: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
Hi again
Also found this one:
http://www.inamay.com/
Happy reading!
Katrina :-)
On 10/09/2004, at 8:25 PM, Ceri Katrina wrote:
Hi everyone
I found these links
http://www.thefarmcommunity.com/inamay.htm
http
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From: Ceri Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
Hi again
Also found this one:
http://www.inamay.com/
Happy reading!
Katrina :-)
On 10/09/2004, at 8:25 PM, Ceri Katrina wrote:
Hi everyone
I found
I had the luck to read this book in my first pregnancy over 10 years ago. As
a result I spent the weeks leading up to the birth in excitement and awe (no
fear whatsoever). I think it's a fantastic book, and I still read it now and
then as a midwife, just to keep me grounded in the spirit of
Title: Re BMid SA
Yes the external can be full time 3 years or
part time over up to 6 years.
We have only been able to do part time this
year, but the course is fully full time external as of next year!
Kirsten
(another unisa external
student!)
Darwin.
~~~start life with a midwife~~~
Title: Re BMid SA
Hi Sue
I don't think there is an external 3 year program -
but then I didn't know there was an external 6 year program either!!
Frommy understanding there are only certain subjects in the 3 year program
that can be undertaken externally. Perhaps you could contact the
Title: Re BMid SA
Hi again Sue
The info I posted before was for pre-registration
or direct entry. I know you can do post-reg entirely external if you want
to.
Tania
- Original Message -
From:
Sue
Cookson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004
: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid
SA
Hi again Sue
The info I posted before was for pre-registration
or direct entry. I know you can do post-reg entirely external if you want
to.
Tania
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From:
Sue Cookson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
. For,
indeed, they are the only ones who ever have.
Margaret Mead
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
Ina May has produced more recent versions and she has a newly
I just thought you must have fallen asleep on the send
button!!
Jackie
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From:
Dean
Jo
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:31
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff
up!
I am sooo sorry this has
It
certainly got our attention though!!
-Original Message-From: Jackie Kitschke
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, 10 September 2004 3:58
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re:
[ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff up!
I just thought you must have fallen asleep on the send
who cant make any event tomorrow, perhaps you can still contribute to NCAD by
lighting a candle.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy Giesaitis
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 3:45
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff
up
Ina May has produced more recent versions and she has a newly published CBE
book called Ina May's guide to childbirth which is a good read. The Farm
midwives still practice, in fact many women with twins or breeches on board
will travel to The Farm to birth in one of the birthing cabins. The
And 'all fours' is called the Gaskin Manoeuvre when discussing strategies for
dealing with shoulder dystocia because of her work in mapping and measuring the
pelvis It's interesting that the groundbreakers of yesteryear are sometimes
viewed with mild amusement or as eccentrics (a bit like
.
Margaret Mead
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
Ina May has produced more recent versions and she has a newly published
CBE
book called Ina May's guide to childbirth
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
Ina May has produced more recent versions and she has a newly
published
CBE
book called Ina May's guide to childbirth which is a good read. The
Farm
midwives still practice, in fact many women
and the earth and many other things too I am sure.
marilyn
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From: Trish David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
And 'all fours' is called the Gaskin Manoeuvre when discussing strategies
. They live in an atmosphere of respect for women
and children and there abilitys. They have great outcomes.
warm greetings
Lieve
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From: Ceri Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
Hi
Forgiven :)
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Jo
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:01
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] re NCAD stuff
up!
I am sooo sorry this has
happened
I have NO idea why this has
happened! I
I get mad and sad and sad and mad and then really bloody furious!! Don't
most of us women that want birthing experiences to be wonderful for women.
I have heard that ridiculous thing about not videoing. Seriously??!! It's
not legal anyway, it could never be legal to stop someone filming their own
Pinky
SorryI can't figure out your email address to
email offlist.
I sufferred with severe morning sickness -
hyperemesis gravidarum in two pregnancies, I have one child a 10 month old
daughter. I am also in contact with a number of other previous and current
hyperemesis sufferers around
: [ozmidwifery] re
interview
Pinky
SorryI can't figure out your email address
to email offlist.
I sufferred with severe morning sickness -
hyperemesis gravidarum in two pregnancies, I have one child a 10 month old
daughter. I am also in contact with a number of other previous
: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:35
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re
interview
Hi Honey -I wil forward your email to Eve hanks
at Mother and Baby -I have another person from the list as well - its great.
Thanks.
pinky
- Original Message -
From:
Honey
What do others think about the use of birthing/exercise balls for this
purpose? We use them with the women we birth with, and as long as the ball
is of a large enough diameter, the knees are lower than the hips, I reckon
they would have to be a suitable and cost effective substitute, with the
but worked for her...! and that's what counts
Wendy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania Smallwood
Sent: 23 July 2004 12:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Pregnancy rocker
What do others think about the use of birthing
are quite cozy but I feel good to be able to share
this support.
Pinky
- Original Message -
From:
Alesa
Koziol
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:25
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show
on Monday
Go Pinky:)
Alesa
good on you Pinky
such a shame I was in transit, take care Judy
Giesaitis
-Original Message-
are best is a start.
I have had good feedback but I guess people didnt know whathad been planned initially.
All comments welcome
Pinky
- Original Message -
From: JoFromOz
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday
GRRR I
GRRR I can't believe I forgot to
watch! What happened??
Jo
are best is a start.
I have had good feedback but I guess people didnt know
whathad been planned initially.
All comments welcome
Pinky
- Original Message -
From:
JoFromOz
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show
Thank goodness they asked YOU to challenge this
woman advocatingsuch awful ideas.
I remember first seeing you on ACA a long while
ago... where you were challenging controlled (er..'cruel') crying. I
e-mailed you immediately - as you spoke from my heart.
Babies everywhere are SO lucky to have
. If we can give "evidence" for our stance mothers
are big enough to make responsible choices and babytraining isnt evidence
based.
pinky
- Original Message -
From:
Nicole Christensen
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:17
PM
Subj
: [ozmidwifery] Re Today
show on Monday
hi Nicole - Thanks for your support. It loosk like
I may end up against somebody else. I actually had a phone conversation
with Tizzie today (she requested it by email) - her bark isnt near as bad as the
bite we have seen in Practical Parenting. She actually says
, May 16, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show
on Monday
Hi Abby - I have been feeling supicious this am about
the motives behind the call yesterday - sounds like we may have similar
instincts! I have heard nothing from the producer so maybe I was being
"soften
Go Pinky! Go Pinky!
I am so excited that you will be debating with her. That woman makes my blood
boil! Not only is she the Practical Parenting sleep expert but her latest article is
all about her as the breastfeeding expert! She is incredibly archaic in her
beliefs and completely goes against
Go Pinky! Go Pinky!
I am so excited that you will be debating with her. That woman makes my blood
boil! Not only is she the Practical Parenting sleep expert but her latest article is
all about her as the breastfeeding expert! She is incredibly archaic in her
beliefs and completely goes against
Oopps! Sorry for the double post, I'm not quite sure what happened there.
Love Abby
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery @ acegraphics . com . au [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday
Go Pinky
Go Pinky:)
Alesa
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Pinky McKay
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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:37 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on
Monday
Hi all,
I will be on the Today Show on Monday at
8.10am - debating agaisnt Tizzie Hall
Much appreciated anyway!
Thanks for your support
pinky
www.pinky-mychild.com
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday
Oopps! Sorry for the double post, I'm
Is this link a legitimate one? I would hate to connect find I
got a virus site. MM
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Is this link a legitimate one? I would hate to connect find I got a virus site. MM
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