Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-24 Thread suzi and brett
: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception Hi, I'm being far more bah humbug than I really should be for christmas! Sorry. Jayne, I appreciate your sentiments, and realise we are on the same side. But could we please not use Nazi in relation to passionate supporters

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-23 Thread jayne/jesse
is absolutely perfect. Jayne - Original Message - From: Barbara Glare Chris Bright To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception Hi, I'm being far more bah humbug than I really

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-23 Thread Jo Watson
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I don't think it's risky or tricky, or silly for that matter. I was trying to be thorough in my reply and not make sweeping statements. Recently one of my moderators did some research

RE: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-23 Thread Vedrana Valčić
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jayne/jesse Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:26 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception Sorry :) Sometimes I'm at a loss for words. I'm been called one of those numerous times

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-22 Thread Jo Watson
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I don't think it's risky or tricky, or silly for that matter. I was trying to be thorough in my reply and not make sweeping statements. Recently one of my moderators did some research on achieving fertility again while breastfeeding so she

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-22 Thread jayne/jesse
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception Hi, It seems like evidence based practice stops at breastfeeding! Jayne, I understand what you are saying, and acknowledge that this was the case for you. But there have been very thorough studies, (as I outlined the other day

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-22 Thread jayne/jesse
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception Hi Jayne, Are you saying that maternal fat levels increase when ovulation returns? If so, in which way? ie fatter = earlier or later? I have put on a significant

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-22 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
Hi, I'm being far more bah humbug than I really should be for christmas! Sorry. Jayne, I appreciate your sentiments, and realise we are on the same side. But could we please not use Nazi in relation to passionate supporters of breastfeeding? Most on this list put their heart and soul into

RE: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-21 Thread Vedrana Valčić
You might want to search for ecological breastfeeding. This is what I found: Exclusive breastfeeding means giving your baby nothing but milk from your breast; frequent nursing (including at night); pacifying the baby at your breast, rather than with a rubber pacifier; and feeding without a

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-21 Thread Helen and Graham
Bright To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception Hi, I don't think Lactational Amenorrhea is as risky or tricky as Janet said. From Breastfeeding Management (Brodribb)In 1988 the World Health

RE: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-21 Thread Vedrana Valčić
] On Behalf Of Helen and Graham Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:57 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I have recently met a woman who specifically gave up breastfeeding her six month old so she could get pregnant. That seemed like

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-21 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
. But, I guess it depends on the woman. Barb - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I have recently met a woman who specifically gave up

RE: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-21 Thread Nicole Carver
Of Helen and Graham Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:57 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I have recently met a woman who specifically gave up breastfeeding her six month old so she could get pregnant. That seemed like a real

RE: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-21 Thread nunyara
My Mum was fully breastfeeding me and fell pregnant with my sister when I was 3 months old. Her periods had also not started yet. I don't know how they can say it is 98% effective. I have heard of so many women who have fallen into this trap. I bleive if women do not want to fall pregnant again so

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-21 Thread jayne/jesse
- From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I don't think it's risky or tricky, or silly for that matter. I was trying to be thorough in my reply and not make sweeping

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-20 Thread Janet Fraser
It's a complex list of stuff, not just bfing, that creates lactational ammenorhea, Kylie. Cosleeping, no dummies, no bottles of ebm, no being away from your child/ren longer than about 3 hours, and having a nap in the daytime with them among other things. And then ultimately each woman is

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-20 Thread Kylie Carberry
zmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraceptionDate: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:56:35 +1100 It's a complex list of stuff, not just bfing, that creates lactational ammenorhea, Kylie. Cosleeping, no dummies, no bottles of ebm, no being away from your child/ren longer than about 3 hours,

RE: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-20 Thread Kelly Zantey
I didn't have a period since falling pregnant with my 4.5 year old, until a few months ago. My mum thought something was seriously wrong with me and kept telling me to see the doctor, but because of infant-led breastfeeding, I knew it was why. I had some very, very light spotting one time when my

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-20 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
amenhorreac until he was 15mths, whereupon I had one period and then got pregnant with my 2nd. Barb - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception

2006-12-20 Thread Janet Fraser
I don't think it's risky or tricky, or silly for that matter. I was trying to be thorough in my reply and not make sweeping statements. Recently one of my moderators did some research on achieving fertility again while breastfeeding so she came up with a list which could equally be applied to

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry

2006-12-11 Thread Kristin Beckedahl
06 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry Dear Barb, This looks very promising below, what are you hoping will come of it? Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Pa

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry

2006-12-11 Thread Kelly Zantey
Bright Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 3:53 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry Dear Julie, We are hoping there will be some legislation around the marketing of infant formula - it's quite out of hand at the moment, and is having

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry

2006-12-09 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
approach. We encourage all groups and individuals to make a submission to the parliamentary inquiry Barb - Original Message - From: Julie Clarke To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry

2006-12-07 Thread Julie Clarke
Dear Barb, This looks very promising below, what are you hoping will come of it? Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding is Best, But What Comes Next?

2006-11-23 Thread Janet Fraser
Well a lot of our ideas of low high and appropriate levels of iron come from formula companies trying to make bm out to be defective. The real studies into iron and children are very different. I never understand the logic that people think toddlers need a special food so you have to give

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding help in Mackay

2006-10-24 Thread diane
@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding help in Mackay Kenacomb ointment on the nipples tiny amount and dab off before expressing (perhaps by hand?) and yes you can give baby EBM with blood in it - as long

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-10-24 Thread Andrea Bilcliff
Thank you to everyone who replied on off list. Your comments were very helpful and I will pass them onto the birth attendantAND file them away for my ownfuture reference! Cheers, Andrea Bilcliff - Original Message - From: Andrea Bilcliff

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding help in Mackay

2006-10-23 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding help in Mackay Kenacomb ointment on the nipples tiny amount and dab off before expressing (perhaps by hand?) and yes you can give baby EBM with blood in it - as long as she is hep c and hiv neg. Good luck to her! It can be done! Jo

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding help in Mackay

2006-10-22 Thread Jo Watson
Kenacomb ointment on the nipples tiny amount and dab off before expressing (perhaps by hand?) and yes you can give baby EBM with blood in it - as long as she is hep c and hiv neg.Good luck to her!  It can be done!JoOn 23/10/2006, at 7:43 AM, diane wrote:HiI have a friend who birthed last week

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar

2006-10-19 Thread Mary Murphy
Isnt junes baby just the most perfect attachment? Good for showing women what they are aiming for. MM The Australian Breastfeeding Association's 2007 Calendar is now available. May I go so far as to say it's the best EVER! Gorgeous photos. Perfect for promoting

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar

2006-10-19 Thread Ceri Katrina
I agree Mary, my personal favourite is September, the look of absolute glee :-)Katrina On 19/10/2006, at 5:07 PM, Mary Murphy wrote: x-tad-smallerIsn’t june’s baby just the most perfect attachment?  Good for showing women what they are aiming for.  MM/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller 

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar

2006-10-19 Thread Megan Larry
ber 2006 4:37 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar Isnt junes baby just the most perfect attachment? Good for showing women what they are aiming for. MM The Australian Breastfeeding Association's 2007 Calendar is now available. M

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar

2006-10-19 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar Barb, I completely agree. I have finally looked this up on the website. What a great selection of photos. I particularly love the older breastfeeding child looking at the camera as she

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar

2006-10-18 Thread Jackie Kitschke
Barb, I completely agree. I have finally looked this up on the website. What a great selection of photos. I particularly love the older breastfeeding child looking at the camera as she feeds. That is how my little girl looks (my breasts hang a bit lower though!) when she has her

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-10-12 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
and still go on to breastfeed. Barb - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding I've seen this before and it was indeed related to sexual

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-10-12 Thread Mike Lindsay Kennedy
: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding I've seen this before and it was indeed related to sexual abuse. Fortunately the woman involved was keen that her issues didn't end up impacting negatively on the life of her baby so she went for counselling

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-10-12 Thread Shaughn Leach
@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Lindsay Kennedy Sent: Friday, 13 October 2006 6:18 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding I would assume that a hands off approach to assisting this woman with breastfeeding

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-10-11 Thread Mary Murphy
I agree with Janet re the basis of this fear. I have seen it in extended family and she was helped by complimentary therapy. Also she was able to B/F for 18mths on a shield. The woman could see any number of therapists, e.g. homeopath, Flower remedies, kinesiology, etc. MM From:

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-08-10 Thread Michelle Windsor
Go ahead Jo.Cheers MichelleJo Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michelle, can I please post this to another group? There is some talk in misc.kids.breastfeeding on usenet about 'trying' to breastfeed. I won't put your name on it at all, if you like.Thanks :)Jo On 09/08/2006, at

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread Jo Bourne
Actually this list is one of the only places I have heard this side of the coin, most often I hear women say I thought it was supposed to be natural and easy and just work... I wish someone had told me it might be hard and need some work, that we might BOTH need to learn how to do it. At

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
Hi, Gail said learned response from both mother and baby. Um...May I say.CRAP? Well, yes and no! There's a fab article by Andrea on the Birth International website about breastfeeding. But, given so many births in Australia are screwed up, babies drugged or injured and mothers

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread Gail McKenzie
Jo, do you work in a hospital in a postnatal ward? I want to know what homebirth midwives know about this From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread suzi and brett
Agree with others - Plus in hosp: too many cooks/ opinions conflicting and confusing information, very few midwives practice Hands Off Technique (letting the woman touch her own breast to attach), too many dummies / comping / bottles, drugs in labour, no privacy / quiet places, crowded rooms

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread Jo Bourne
@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:07:53 +1000 Actually this list is one of the only places I have heard this side of the coin, most often I hear women say I thought it was supposed to be natural and easy and just work

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-08-09 Thread Jo Watson
Michelle, can I please post this to another group?  There is some talk in misc.kids.breastfeeding on usenet about 'trying' to breastfeed.  I won't put your name on it at all, if you like.Thanks :)JoOn 09/08/2006, at 12:58 PM, Michelle Windsor wrote:Hi Gail,   I too wondered why breastfeeding

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread Maternity Ward Mareeba Hospital
I would agree with the 'crap' judgement you made. Where I work in a small rural midwifery unit, we do a lot of physiological third stages and the women are encouraged to let the baby feed as soon as they show signs, they are skin to skin with mum. Lights low and the rest of the family in awe

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread Jo Watson
I totally agree with this as well... However, I work in a hospital as a Midwife, and had a wonderful homebirth experience, no drugs, normal 3rd stage, etc, skin to skin immediately... But my boy just had no idea. My 'equipment didn't help much, either. I ended up hand expressing for 24

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-08-09 Thread Susan Cudlipp
My 5cents worth: I agree with all points already given. I too am saddened and frustrated by the ammount of b/f/ 'problems' we seem to encounter in hosp. In over 27 years of being a midwife and seeing teaching/theories/attitudes change plus b/f/ 3 of my own through varying theories from '2mins

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread jo
this syndrome and can easily be diagnosed as thrush. Food for thought! Jo Hunter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 11:45 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread Mary Murphy
Congratulations Jo, it has been a long haul. Love M Sometimes it just isn't easy, no matter how good at it I wanted to be. It helps to have a baby who knows what they are doing, and 'good nipples' (which I have now, apart from the lipstick shaped one ;)). We are still breastfeeding now

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback

2006-08-09 Thread Alesa Koziol
my humble opinion on a cold wintry morning:) Alesa Alesa Koziol Clinical Midwifery Educator Melbourne - Original Message - From: jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:39 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding feedback Most

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-08-08 Thread Justine Caines
Dear Gail Have you read any of Michel Odents work re oxytocin? The Scientification of Love is an entire book on this wonderful hormone. Also see Sarah Buckley's work. It is really only HB women (and not all I know but most) who experience physiological 3rd stage (yes I know a few discrete mid

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-08-08 Thread Michelle Windsor
Hi Gail,I too wondered why breastfeeding seems so difficult and stressful for so many women... especially once I'd worked with indigenous women andsaw how easy they seemed to find it. So trying to figure it out, I noticed a few differences. Indigenous women have alot of exposure to

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-08-08 Thread Sazz Eaton
To a certain extent I agree with Kelly: "I am no expert but I think breastfeeding has been made complex when it's not" I am also not an expert but I think time has a lot to do with it as well, starting immediately after birth as opposed to waiting.My sister gave birth three months ago in a

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-08-08 Thread Angela Rayner
Hi Gail I'm not a home birth midwife, but I'm interested in what you're saying, because I was a student once upon a time, and I remember thinking the same. I was fortunate to gain a lot of experience with a lactation consultant who I came to respect as her 'skills' were incredible to me. Often

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2006-08-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gail, I am the mother of four children; the first two were born in a hospital birth centre and the last two were born at home. I experienced lots of problems breastfeeding the first two - including cracked and bleeding nipples, extreme pain, difficulty latching, etc - but no problems

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding and pregnancy

2006-07-24 Thread Honey Acharya
This is what I have found so far http://kellymom.com/nursingtwo/faq/01safety.html - Original Message - From: Honey Acharya To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding and pregnancy A friend

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding and pregnancy

2006-07-24 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
Hi, It would be worthwhile getting your hands on the Australian Breastfeeding Association's "Breastfeeding through pregnancy and Beyond" It's only $5 and available through www.mothersdirect.com.au Many women breastfeed most successfully through pregnancy and beyond. The oxytocin release

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding and pregnancy

2006-07-24 Thread Honey Acharya
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding and pregnancy Hi, It would be worthwhile getting your hands on the Australian Breastfeeding Association's "Breastfeeding through pregnancy and Beyond" It's only $5 a

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding in OT

2006-07-15 Thread suzi and brett
Congratulations Meg, we look forward to a time when women needing c/s are routinely offered this option. love Suzi - Original Message - From: meg To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding in OT

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding in OT

2006-07-11 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Well done, keep telling everyone where you work because it can become the normAndrea QOn 11/07/2006, at 7:41 PM, meg wrote:Dear all,I would just like to boast because today I achieve a goal. With the help of an obliging mum, this morning I managed to receive a baby in OT, and except for the brief

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Mothers Given Wrong Advice for 40 Years

2006-04-29 Thread denise thomson
In the UK there has been repeated talk of breastfeeding centile charts but no one has actually seen one. Instead the mothers are subjected to pre feed and after feed weighing in some hospitals, neither wonder people get stressed about breastfeeding! I wonder how long it will take these charts to

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Mothers Given Wrong Advice for 40 Years

2006-04-29 Thread Jo Bourne
You can download the new WHO charts online now... At 5:41 AM +0100 30/4/06, denise thomson wrote: In the UK there has been repeated talk of breastfeeding centile charts but no one has actually seen one. Instead the mothers are subjected to pre feed and after feed weighing in some hospitals,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Mothers Given Wrong Advice for 40 Years

2006-04-24 Thread Susan Cudlipp
This is interesting Kelly and about time these wretched charts were consigned to the bin. I did a lactation course a few years ago and the facilitator asked us to all bring in our ownbabies health records, some of which were very old! It was obvious that all of us who had breast fed

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Mothers Given Wrong Advice for 40 Years

2006-04-24 Thread Jo Bourne
The thing that surprises me is that most of my friends have exclusively breastfed and produced babies with rolls on their rolls and crevices so deep you can't find the bottom of them... My own daughter was off the chart at 6 months (she was exclusively breastfed until somewhere around 16

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Making a Difference

2006-02-27 Thread pinky mckay
You will LOVE Alison Barrett - a director of obstets at Waikato Womens - VERY natural birth/ attachment parenting - leading push to have mums and bubs together at all times/ kangaroo care / La leche league leader/ LC etc etc . I asked a midwife there 'how does she cut it with the 'boys?' (

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-25 Thread Denise Hynd
of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled. - Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:38 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-25 Thread Pinky McKay
white breast. We still joke about that poor Drs surprise - he actually stopped mid sentence and gave an audible gasp. Pinky - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-25 Thread Helen and Graham
, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Denise - are there any links to this story? I have tried searching without success . Barb - love the breastfeeding story -oh to be a fly on the wall later. Go Girl Guan, get that mummy organised and her bra on properly! Years ago I

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-25 Thread Tania Smallwood
Must weigh in on this delightful thread with my 'stopping' breastfeeding story... Jake turned 4 in July, about 3 months beforehand, when he was down to one feed in the evenings, if that, he told me that he thought he'd nearly drank all my milk. I agreed that he had indeed drunk a lot of milk in

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-25 Thread Ceri Katrina
that is so adorable! attachment: smallnps2.jpg www.niagaraparkshow.com.au On 25/08/2005, at 8:47 PM, Tania Smallwood wrote: Must weigh in on this delightful thread with my 'stopping' breastfeeding story... Jake turned 4 in July, about 3 months beforehand, when he was down to one feed in the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-24 Thread JoFromOz
Vedrana Valčić wrote: What was the discussion about? Vedrana Mostly about research saying which people are confronted/offended by BF in public. Mostly it found that men feel funny around a mate's wife BF, etc. Just brought up discussion about BF in public generally, and how/where/ and

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-24 Thread Denise Hynd
: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Vedrana Valčić wrote: What was the discussion about? Vedrana Mostly about research saying which people are confronted/offended by BF in public. Mostly it found that men feel funny around a mate's wife BF, etc. Just brought up discussion about BF in public

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-24 Thread Vedrana Valčić
11:08 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Vedrana Valčić wrote: What was the discussion about? Vedrana Mostly about research saying which people are confronted/offended by BF in public. Mostly it found that men feel funny around a mate's wife BF

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-24 Thread Vedrana Valčić
: Vedrana Valčić Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:01 PM To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Two things come to my mind for people who feel funny - the legendary Buttinsky blanket (http://www.thecowgoddess.com/archshow.asp?var=148) and Live and let live

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-24 Thread Nicole Carver
, August 24, 2005 8:43 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Was co-sleeping and todays WA case of ?SIDS being blamed on it bu the mother and West report which also said the midwives did not stop me!! I am one midwife LC would still have no problems supporting

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-24 Thread Gloria Lemay
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:43 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Was co-sleeping and todays WA case of ?SIDS being blamed on it bu the mother and West report which also said the midwives did not stop me!! I am one midwife LC would still have

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-24 Thread Mary Murphy
Gloria, as indicated below, couch sleeping is very dangerous...and the woman was asleep on the couch. I heard her say that the baby was between the back of the couch and her.. also she must have turned over at some time as she had her back to the baby. She put the baby back in the cot and 'found

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-24 Thread JoFromOz
Not only that, she was quite overweight if I remember correctly - another co-sleeping nono. Did they separate out SIDS from suffocation in the story, though? They are two different things... Jo Mary Murphy wrote: Gloria, as indicated below, couch sleeping is very dangerous...and the woman

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-24 Thread Janet Fraser
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:43 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Was co-sleeping and todays WA case of ?SIDS being blamed on it bu the mother and West report which also said the midwives did not stop me!! I am one midwife LC would still have

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-08-23 Thread Vedrana Valčić
What was the discussion about? Vedrana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoFromOz Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:49 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Just heard on Perth ABC radio the segment on

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - The Natural State

2005-08-05 Thread Robyn Thompson
Hi Barb My apologies for this Conference, I will be in the UK doing a presentation on Waterbirth. I would love to present an abstract for the next breastfeeding conference on the data collected at Darebin and a DVD I have al most completed on preventing nipple trauma and innate

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding lowers blood pressure

2005-05-27 Thread Helen and Graham
if there are bugs in the system...) - Original Message - From: JoFromOz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding lowers blood pressure A good article, but still sees breastfeeding as not the norm with it's

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding lowers blood pressure

2005-05-24 Thread JoFromOz
A good article, but still sees breastfeeding as not the norm with it's wording... ie breastfeeding lowers blood pressure. Wouldn't it be more likely that formula feeding raises blood pressure? Or, the less breastmilk an infant recieves the more their risk of higher blood pressure? Just

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-05-19 Thread Dean Jo
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise Fisher Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:53 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Breastfeeding doesn't often come up on this list, but when it does it causes heated discussions - I don't understand why

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-05-19 Thread Jo Bourne
feeding can cause greater heated debates than elective cs I have found! :o) Cheers Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise Fisher Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:53 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-05-19 Thread Barb Glare Chris Bright
Hi, to me, birth and breastfeeding(and parenting, really) are part of one continuum, and it surprises and saddens me when something like breastfeeding divides us so much. Statistics are such strange things. And, especially as health professionals, I think we have to think carefully about how we

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-05-19 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
) that creates the heat but the over simplification of what makes a great, good, or good enough mother. marilyn - Original Message - From: Denise Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding

2005-05-19 Thread Denise Hynd
for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled. - Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Barb Glare Chris Bright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Hi

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Healthy children, families, communities

2005-03-11 Thread Mary Murphy
Hi Barb, this came to me at my personal address. was it supposed to go to Ozmid list? cheers, Mary Murphy - Original Message - From: Barbara Glare Chris Bright To: Barbara Glare Chris Bright Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:17 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery]

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Healthy children, families, communities

2005-02-23 Thread Alesa Koziol
Well done Pinky:) Regards Alesa Hi Barb - you will be proud of me- I have called John and am being sent teh apllication pack for LC exam and have booked into Maureens course which starts next week -I am on the roller coaster sothere is no turning back or slacking off now!

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Healthy children, families, communities

2005-02-22 Thread Pinky McKay
Hi Barb - you will be proud of me- I have called John and am being sent teh apllication pack for LC exam and have booked into Maureens course which starts next week -I am on the roller coaster sothere is no turning back or slacking off now! Pinky - Original Message - From:

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Healthy children, families and communities seminar

2005-02-19 Thread Dean Jo
- From: Sylvia Boutsalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 8:33 PM To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Healthy children, families and communities seminar Is anyone going to the Adelaide conference day? I didn't want to go

RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Healthy children, families and communities seminar

2005-02-19 Thread A C Palmer
-Original Message- From: Sylvia Boutsalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 8:33 PM To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Healthy children, families and communities seminar Is anyone going to the Adelaide conference day? I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding: Healthy children, families and communities seminar

2005-02-12 Thread Pinky McKay
Hi Barb -I would be interested in a trade display in Melbourne - what deals can you offer? How many people attend? Pinky - Original Message - From: Barb Glare To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery]

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding picture

2005-01-25 Thread Ping Bullock
Please send me one too. Ping

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding picture

2005-01-24 Thread Sadie
And me please [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Sadie - Original Message - From: Tim Rochelle To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding picture Jo, could I please have one too [EMAIL

Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding picture

2005-01-24 Thread JoFromOz
Yes please!! Thanks, Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Seminar

2005-01-09 Thread Pinky McKay
Hi Barb - have you heard anything from Mark Spektor Re sleep DVD - its all a bit quiet -I might give him a call - I know he has a fair bit happening but its a bit quiet. Id like to get something concrete. Pinky - Original Message - From: Barb Glare To:

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Seminar

2005-01-09 Thread Barb Glare
Nothing at all. Give him a call and tell him to give me a call Barb - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Seminar Hi Barb - have you heard

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