Re: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 14, 2004, at 7:12 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: It is, after all, the Pointless Discussion Mailing List. :-) I am _very_ mad at you for saying that! I have just sprayed my morning coffee all over my computer's screen and keyboard because of you! (and it was uproariously funny!!! But only becaus

PESO Bee here now

2004-12-13 Thread Adam McKenty
Bee in flower, that is... I grabbed this one with my brothers N***n outside the polling station while he was participating in democracy. I suppose that it might be outside the rules, seeing as it was produced with equipment from the dark side, but I figured that violators wouldn't be prosecuted

RE: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Jens Bladt
I'm glad I managed to get the SMC-K 2.5/135mm again after having sold one years ago. It's brilliant. If you want annother great lens, get a SMC-K 2.8/105mm. It's even better! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Don Sanderson [mailt

RE: Cliffs Near Hasan's Cave

2004-12-13 Thread Jens Bladt
This reminds me of the Cliffs of Moher, County Clare, Ireland: http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt/DreamHC/Side15.html Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. december 2004 03:10 Til: [EMAIL

RE: *ist-Ds on sale in the UK

2004-12-13 Thread Jens Bladt
Funny website. As I enter it there's a picture of a Pentax, that quickly goes away. When entering the DSLR page - there's no Pentax!!! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 12. d

RE: *ist D - Exposure issues - lenses other than A

2004-12-13 Thread Jens Bladt
Chris. I can't say that I had similar, negative experiences. I just checkede twice with my SMC-M 2.8/35mm and got equally exposed frames all the time. I suggest you check your lens for the old "slow aperture syndrom". If it doesn't close down properly during metering, but OK during exposure, you'll

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
I am stating a reality where I live. It is not cost effective to shoot film for the quality sake. All they do is scan it and charge me more than for digital prints. So I am not getting any better quality, I am paying for film, developing and more for the prints. So even if it can be shown that

RE: Unsubscribe

2004-12-13 Thread Jens Bladt
So, if I want to change my phone number or have the phone disconnected, I should call my aunt, whom I call often - and not the phone company? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Andrew Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 12.

Re: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Thats right isn't this the Pointless Discussion Mailing List? William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Mishka" Subject: Re: The film is dead this whole discussion is very pointless. That is the whole point of this mailing list. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't g

Re: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:50:19 -0600, William Robb wrote: > > this whole discussion is very pointless. > > That is the whole point of this mailing list. It is, after all, the Pointless Discussion Mailing List. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Girlfriend going Canon, help!

2004-12-13 Thread Leon Altoff
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:41:17 -0800, Juan Buhler wrote: >My gf is ready to upgrade from her 5Mp Optio to a digital SLR. She >wants more control, better lenses and the option to focus manually. >She's not willing to shoot film, having had a digital camera for a >while now. >The only reason for her

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread John Francis
William Robb mused: > > Digital can look very good indeed, but a well printed negative (my > opinion only) still has an edge. I doubt if anyone would disagree with that statement (albeit possibly with reservations about visible grain). But that's a long way from the insulting and dismissive put

Re: Girlfriend going Canon, help!

2004-12-13 Thread ernreed2
Juan Buhler wrote: > > >My gf is ready to upgrade from her 5Mp Optio to a digital SLR. She > >wants more control, better lenses and the option to focus manually. > >She's not willing to shoot film, having had a digital camera for a > >while now. > > > >Of course, as any god-fearing PDML member and

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Subject: Re: Fw: The film is dead > That's just comparing a printer system to an enlarger system. As I said in another post, there is always going to be an element of apple and oranges. As unscientific as it is, my final arbiter is "do I like i

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:21:41 -0600, William Robb wrote: > > That's just comparing a printer system to an enlarger system. > > As I said in another post, there is always going to be an element of > apple and oranges. As unscientific as it is, my final arbiter is "do I like it?". TTYL, DougF KG4

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Subject: Re: Fw: The film is dead The fair comparison is to compare a high quality optical print to digital. That's just comparing a printer system to an enlarger system. As I said in another post, there is always going to be an element of appl

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:05:26 -0600, William Robb wrote: > More to the point, they are comparing scanned film to digital. > They are really comparing whatever scanner they are using to a > digital camera. > > The fair comparison is to compare a high quality optical print to > digital. That's ju

Re: Girlfriend going Canon, help!

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: Re: Girlfriend going Canon, help! Isn't your undying love and affection enough? Access to Juan's lenses should certainly be enough. However, if the bottom line is the bottom line. Canon will buy new customers every time. They can af

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" Subject: Re: Fw: The film is dead A reality in my neck of the woods, is that it is not reasonably possible to get optical prints. All the labs have gone digital and are therefore scanning your film. Even my 67 stuff was not looking that impress

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Fw: The film is dead The fair comparison is to compare a high quality optical print to digital. Do that, and yer 6 megapixie dslr starts to look like cheap junk. Not really. But you can believe that if you want. You have really come to like the li

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Fw: The film is dead What would be a fair or reasonable test? Any test of this sort is going to have some apples vs. oranges component to it. What prompted my comment was seeing the very large colour prints that my friend Kim Dig

Re: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mishka" Subject: Re: The film is dead this whole discussion is very pointless. That is the whole point of this mailing list. William Robb

Re: Girlfriend going Canon, help!

2004-12-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Isn't your undying love and affection enough? Juan Buhler wrote: My gf is ready to upgrade from her 5Mp Optio to a digital SLR. She wants more control, better lenses and the option to focus manually. She's not willing to shoot film, having had a digital camera for a while now. Of course, as any god

Re: Unsubscribe

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Frits Wüthrich" Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Please unsubscribe me from the people giving unsubscribe info to people who asked to be unsubscribed, they are spoiling all the fun for the rest. This discussion is pointless. William Robb

Re: *ist D - Exposure issues - lenses other than A

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Chris Niesmertelny" Subject: Re: *ist D - Exposure issues - lenses other than A I'm really disappointed that this issue could be the meter sensitivity running out. Am I the only person who has used a non-A lens on the *ist D and tried to take a long exposur

Re: Survey:istD reliability

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
Some 6600 shots so far. I've had a couple of lock ups requiring removal of the batteries to make it go away. Seems to be related to a combination of the focus point selector being between positions and trying to do some other operation, but I don't recall which. I have more hot pixels than I sho

Re: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: The film is dead Yeah, I'm getting the sense that the days for color film are numbered, and, frankly, that's OK with me. From what I've seen of good digital color work it's a more than acceptable alternative. I'd really like to

Re: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" Subject: RE: The film is dead Shel Sadly this is true (the B&W stuff). I am, however, quite surprised that black and white have lasted this long. Colour photography was invented app. 100 years ago. So, it has taken 100 years to out-compete black

RE: *istD auto focus woes

2004-12-13 Thread Anthony Farr
Jens, I think you meant 1/3 AHEAD and 2/3 BEHIND the focusing distance. It's easy to verify this. Look at the DOF scale on a lens (you'll probably need an old lens to check this) and you'll see that the far-side limit of DOF encompasses more metres, feet or furlongs (as is your wont) between its

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
It's fare based on likely results, but not on optimal results. You can achieve a better result with film than with digital, but that's not usually possible. That's why I expect to keep a film body or two for B&W until you can no longer get film. Bruce Dayton wrote: A reality in my neck of the

Re[2]: istD Lithium battery vs. NiMH

2004-12-13 Thread Boris Liberman
HI! >> Rob, what you say begs the next question - what are the terms? Or will the >> image >> quality/camera response deteriorate before batteries are useless? >>From recollection the battery indicator "blinks" and warning of critical low RS> battery state. If you continue shooting the camera wi

Girlfriend going Canon, help!

2004-12-13 Thread Juan Buhler
My gf is ready to upgrade from her 5Mp Optio to a digital SLR. She wants more control, better lenses and the option to focus manually. She's not willing to shoot film, having had a digital camera for a while now. Of course, as any god-fearing PDML member and Pentax user would do, I recommended an

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
A reality in my neck of the woods, is that it is not reasonably possible to get optical prints. All the labs have gone digital and are therefore scanning your film. Even my 67 stuff was not looking that impressive. So for a reasonable cost per print and not having to travel long distances, compa

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
The second. By the way there is also a difference in overall length, though for the life of me I can't remember which is longer the earlier or later. Don Sanderson wrote: Do you know how to tell for sure JCO? The only specs I can find say the 5/4 is 444 grams and the 6/6 is 470 grams. All other s

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What would be a fair or reasonable test? Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > More to the point, they are comparing scanned film to digital. > They are really comparing whatever scanner they are using to a > digital camera. > > The fair comparison is to compare

Re: PAW - Tail

2004-12-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Yep, that's a cat alright... Shel Belinkoff wrote: Just grabbed this one a moment ago ... if you have a cat, or know cat's, you may enjoy this QuikSnap made with the little Sony. http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/budtail.html Shel -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During

Re: Stripes on digital image - followup.

2004-12-13 Thread Herb Chong
based on this information, i believe you had an error during transfer of the image from the card, or that there is a bad spot on the card. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Fred Widall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Str

Re: Unsubscribe

2004-12-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
And Cotty thinks I should work for a tabloid. Bob Blakely wrote: Please subscribe me to the list of folks whocan't figure out how to unsubscribe so that I can berate them and reduce them to a quivering mass of goo. Regards, Bob... From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 13/12/04, William Robb, dis

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread pnstenquist
> The fair comparison is to compare a high quality optical print to > digital. > Do that, and yer 6 megapixie dslr starts to look like cheap junk. > Not really. But you can believe that if you want. > > - Original Message - > From: "David Zaninovic" > Subject: Re: Fw: The film is d

Re: What's the GFM photo weekend like?

2004-12-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jon, I drove in from Chicago for my 1st GFM last year - 2 days in. My wife and I enjoyed the seminars (she is a non-photographer). The scenery is special and the people are extraordinary, both Pentax & hosts. We met the notorious members of the list, and the less vocal folks. We met friends from ac

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Zaninovic" Subject: Re: Fw: The film is dead Most of the comparisons are cropping film to the size of APS and then comparing with digital, that is not fair. More to the point, they are comparing scanned film to digital. They are really comparing whateve

RE: PAW PESO - The World is Not Enough

2004-12-13 Thread Don Sanderson
Nice one Shel, talk show? Don > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PAW PESO - The World is Not Enough > > > Forgive me that I'm posting a few pics today. I'm working with a borro

Re: Is this a good deal?

2004-12-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well hell, the SMC 105/2.8 must be worth more than $175. Grab it before they change their mind to make a fortune on e-bay. Gateway wrote: I've been offered the following. Leaving aside the fact that it's all 30 years old or thereabouts is this a good deal? I'm entering my disco fever retro 70's

RE: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Don Sanderson
Both very nice shots! This one is not capable of your 2.8 quality until 8 or 11. I have a refund on its way. Don > -Original Message- > From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Two lenses, one great, o

RE: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Don Sanderson
Hmmm, the only place I found (Darios) that gave the length lists both as 86mm, which this one is. At $15.50 I'm pretty happy either way but is one supposed to be much better than the other? Don > -Original Message- > From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
While the 40/2.8 isn't the sharpest lens around I'd not base my impression on an obviously damaged specimen. This was taken with a 40mm I think it's very sharp at f11, more than merely acceptable. http://pug.komkon.org/03may/dingie2.html This one was taken with the 40mm at f2.8. (and I have no

PAW PESO - The World is Not Enough

2004-12-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Forgive me that I'm posting a few pics today. I'm working with a borrowed scanner and digging out some prints from the "bottom of the box." Here's something from quite a few years back ... a little different from the usual postings. You might see this one from a couple of perspectives. http:/

RE: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
the 6 element version is longer, 85mm from the front edge of the barrel to the flange, the 5 element version is only 80mm measured same way. JCO -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Two

RE: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Don Sanderson
Do you know how to tell for sure JCO? The only specs I can find say the 5/4 is 444 grams and the 6/6 is 470 grams. All other specs are identical. Mine weighs in at 473 grams buck naked. Which is supposed to be the better of the 2? Don > -Original Message- > From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[

Re: Stripes on digital image - followup.

2004-12-13 Thread Fred Widall
I shot 107 photographs today with my *ist-DS and DA18-55mm. I've examined every one for 'banding' but can only find 4 images which are affected. Three of them have multiple stripes running through them, the fourth (which I took from a slightly different position than the pther three) has only three

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Chan Yong Wei
Right sorry, my bad :p On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:25:13 -0500, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there are no Kmount SMC takumars. All the Kmount > takumars were budget single coated lenes. ALL > SMC Takumar lenses are M42. > > the question that needs asking is whether > the 135mm F2.

RE: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
there are no Kmount SMC takumars. All the Kmount takumars were budget single coated lenes. ALL SMC Takumar lenses are M42. the question that needs asking is whether the 135mm F2.5 SMC Takumar he was using is the 5 element or the 6 element version? JCO -Original Message- From: Chan Yong W

Re: What's the GFM photo weekend like?

2004-12-13 Thread Graywolf
Excepted from my journal-- 2004 Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend What a great time. Lots of folks from the Pentax Mailing List were there as well as the regulars came from places as far away as Australia, Germany, Norway, England, Canada, and of course from all over the US. I managed to

Re: What's the GFM photo weekend like?

2004-12-13 Thread cbwaters
I went last year for the first time. It was *probably* the biggest gathering of PDML folks that'll ever happen. It was GREAT. Really great. Hey, is Tom going to bring that Pizza again? Him not being on the list has put the Pizza in doubt. Pizza being in doubt, let alone GOOD pizza, is a VER

Re: PESO: In the Art Gallery, Too

2004-12-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
> Henry Moore?? annsan (coffee for me :) - but I'm not sure I'm right

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Chan Yong Wei
Are you referring to the M42 or K-mount version of the SMCT 135/2.5? On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:20:11 -0600, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recieved and played with two lenses on the D today. > (After thawing them out, b! Winter just got here!) > > SMCT 135/2.5 > Superb all the way,

Re: DA40/2.8 news

2004-12-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Due to changing taste and technology. No reason for that standard to not return. Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, John Francis wrote: Jens Bladt mused: Intersting. It look like the old 40mm pancake lens. Funny focal length - like 60mm on a 35mm camera. Nothing much

Re: Unsubscribe

2004-12-13 Thread Bob Blakely
"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave." Regards, Bob... From: "Jeroen van Riel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I live in the Netherlands and I can't phone you. Please unsubscribe me as I requested,

Re: SV: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Herb Chong
lots of people in the financial industry think that all of Kodak's film production and processing worldwide will be in China in 5 years and make noises that Kodak will be mostly out of the photographic film business in 10 years except for single use cameras. Herb... - Original Message -

Re: PAW: Cocktail Hour Redux

2004-12-13 Thread Juan Buhler
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:39:41 -0500, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2951716&size=lg Seems like nobody commented on this Paul, so here you go: I like it. The contrast between red and green works, although I think the green of the lime is a b

Re: Arsat f2.8 35mm tilt and shift

2004-12-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 Dec 2004 at 19:40, Mishka wrote: > since you are the guy who showed me how to do PC in PS, could you also explain > what do you mean by "non-absolute' (relative?) pixels??? (no sarcasm -- i am > genuinely curious) What I mean is that you will never see adjacent pixels in any 1:1 scanned or

RE: What's the GFM photo weekend like?

2004-12-13 Thread Don Sanderson
Cool! Thanks Doug. Don > -Original Message- > From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: What's the GFM photo weekend like? > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:45:35 -0600, Don Sanderson wrote: > > > I joined

SV: SV: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Joakim Johansson
Rob Studdert Wrote: Answer: I do not think so, and that wasn’t my point. I do think that there is going to be a need for film for many years to come. And the reason for that is that only 5 percent of all people on this planet have a computer and access to the Internet. And what you probably di

Re: Wow, I just won a million bucks.

2004-12-13 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
It could be worse. Most of the spam I get talk about increasing my breast size Alex Sarbu (in case you don't know, I *am* a male. No, I don't intend to change that ) On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:41:12 +0100, Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Monday, December 13, 2004, 7:55:00 PM, Peter wrote:

Re: Sigma flash with P-TTL now available

2004-12-13 Thread Frantisek
KK> Does anyone have any experience of Sigma flashes? What is the colour KK> (balance?) of light they emit? Pentax does very nice in that respect KK> in my eyes. dunno. why don't you gel the strobe? I have all of mine gelled. it's the easiest solution. I know, sorry for not answering your questio

Pentax fa* 200 macro f4?

2004-12-13 Thread Harald Rust
Anyone here know where I might be able to purchase a Pentax fa* 200 macro f4 lens, new or used? All info appreciated. Harald __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com

RE: Old Film Sizes

2004-12-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
There are a couple of other, far less expensive, options. Don't have the info handy right now, but, IIRC, just doing a search on a particular film size - oh, wait, maybe Freestyle has a few sizes. Some are still produced by Kodak and Fuji if memory serves me (which it does only sporadically these

Re: *ist D - Exposure issues - lenses other than A

2004-12-13 Thread Chris Niesmertelny
I'm really disappointed that this issue could be the meter sensitivity running out. Am I the only person who has used a non-A lens on the *ist D and tried to take a long exposure picture? Anyone care to give it a try for me? Best regards, Chris Niesmertelny - Original Message - From:

Re: *ist D - Exposure issues - lenses other than A

2004-12-13 Thread Chris Niesmertelny
Thanks for the feedback, Rob. I used the cap on the viewfinder and still have the same issue. I suspect you and W. Robb are on to something with respect to the meter sensitivity. Tis a pity and a PITA. Thanks, Chris Niesmertelny > > > I broke out some non-A lenses to play with on the *ist D

Re: Sigma flash with P-TTL now available

2004-12-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Mark Roberts wrote: > Still recovering from my Tamron 17-35 purchase but I'm gonna have to get > one of these eventually! Does anyone have any experience of Sigma flashes? What is the colour (balance?) of light they emit? Pentax does very nice in that respect in my eyes. Kos

Re: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread pnstenquist
In the days when the local pros were still making optical prints for their portolios, labs like Meteor were doing a good job. But there's no high-end market for optical prints any more. I must have looked at a hundred portfolios over the last three months. Most were US shooters, some Europeans,

Re: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Graywolf
That was a problem in the area way before digital came along. In Ann Arbor I was able to get very good prints made at ridiculous prices because there was a photographer who was also a truly great color printer. He was also tired of darkroom work, thus the high prices ($25/8x10 in 1982-85). I was

Re: [Autoreply]

2004-12-13 Thread Graywolf
Opps that is the same guy who we have been berating for sending an unsubscribe notice to the list. At least he tried to unsub, guess I owe him at least 1/2 of an apology. Guess I will cc: this to Doug so he can unsub the guy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof"

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Fred
>> So, $15.50 for EX- with original metal hood, VMC skylight, >> Vivitar 2x and all 4 original caps isn't too bad? > Please stop this conversation, I need to work, rather than dream > of going about with my K135/2.5 mounted on a camera :-) Har! Yes, I've got to get out the K 135/2.5 and put it

RE: What's the GFM photo weekend like?

2004-12-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:45:35 -0600, Don Sanderson wrote: > I joined the list just after the last PDML visit > to GFM. > I've lost track of the other URL's from you guys. > Would someone mind sending me any lists they have > of "reports", etc. on last year? No reports, but you'll find a page of li

Re: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Mishka
this whole discussion is very pointless. mishka.

Re: PESO: In the Art Gallery, Too

2004-12-13 Thread Bob W
Hi, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 12:29:42 AM, frank wrote: > I thought I'd have a "real" PAW ready for today, but it wasn't ready. > So, to satisfy my pathological need to show my photos, I thought I'd > PESO another photo taken at the Art Gallery of Ontario, taken on a > recent visit with two of

Re: PAW - Tail

2004-12-13 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:21:36 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just grabbed this one a moment ago ... if you have a cat, or know cat's, > you may enjoy this QuikSnap made with the little Sony. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/budtail.html > -frank -- "Sharpness is a b

Re: Arsat f2.8 35mm tilt and shift

2004-12-13 Thread Mishka
since you are the guy who showed me how to do PC in PS, could you also explain what do you mean by "non-absolute' (relative?) pixels??? (no sarcasm -- i am genuinely curious) thanks, mishka > It's not that bad, rarely are pixel values absolute so even linear compression > or expansion of 50% (whi

Re: Where are my manners

2004-12-13 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:09:00 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just thought i would do a global thanks to all who: You're such a Canadian, Dave! -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: Cotty!

2004-12-13 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 02:09:13 -, Ryan Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hot off the press! > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2949257 > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2949263 > and I kid you not, > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2949266 > > So on a bit of a b

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Fred
> Recently I posted a photo of a mailbox taken with the K105/2.8. > Even at the small size required for web viewing the bokeh was > nowhere near as bad as that which you've shown us. > http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/mailboxes/catbox.html Hi, Shel. I'd say that the bokeh in the photo of your "

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread pnstenquist
My K 135/2.5 is among my most frequently used lenses on the *ist D. I often use it for tabletop studio shots where I want to limit the depth of field. I also used it for my wakeboarding series. Great lens. Here's one from the water: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2686475&size=lg >

Re: istD Lithium battery vs. NiMH

2004-12-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
For my money, the NiMh are the way to go. I was getting about 1000 shots on my *ist D, in Alaska, last September between charges - no flash usage, but I did do some in camera edit at the end of the day's shoot. I'm using Ray O Vac's 2000ma's that recharge in 15 minutes I've got about $ 50 into 8 AA

PESO: In the Art Gallery, Too

2004-12-13 Thread frank theriault
I thought I'd have a "real" PAW ready for today, but it wasn't ready. So, to satisfy my pathological need to show my photos, I thought I'd PESO another photo taken at the Art Gallery of Ontario, taken on a recent visit with two of my girls: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2956991&size

Re: PAW - Tail

2004-12-13 Thread Bob W
Hi, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 12:21:36 AM, Shel wrote: > Just grabbed this one a moment ago ... if you have a cat, or know cat's, > you may enjoy this QuikSnap made with the little Sony. > http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/budtail.html looks like your priest's moustache has escaped... -- C

Re: Sigma flash with P-TTL now available

2004-12-13 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Mark Roberts wrote on 14.12.04 15:50: > According to an email I just received from Sigma, the EF500 DG SUPER > P-TTL flash is now available. This is the new version of their > top-of-the-line flash that is compatible with Pentax P-TTL. It's not yet > listed on Sigma's web site but it *is* on the B

For sale: SMC F 70-210mm zoom lens

2004-12-13 Thread Peter Spiro
If anybody needs one of these, I just posted it on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3860580641 It is a very nice lens, and one of the best optically. However, I recently acquired an 80-320mm, which is not quite as good optically, but I mostly use this focal length range

PAW - Tail

2004-12-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Just grabbed this one a moment ago ... if you have a cat, or know cat's, you may enjoy this QuikSnap made with the little Sony. http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/budtail.html Shel

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I have to somewhat disagree with your assessment of the K105/2.8 bokeh. I say somewhat because it's clear that the lens can produce such a mess, but the thing about the quality of bokeh depends on many factors such as subject to lens distance, background to lens distance, details or lack of d

Re: SV: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Graywolf
That argument keeps coming up. It is silly, because people that poor are not using film either. In actuallity you need electricity to set up a darkroom, you only need drycell batteries to us a digital camera. I am on the pro-film side of the street, but that is a straw-horse argument if there e

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Fred
>> the question that needs asking is whether the 135mm F2.5 SMC >> Takumar he was using is the 5 element or the 6 element version? > Do you know how to tell for sure JCO? Looking at the DOF scale numbers next to the aperture ring, the 5/4 version says "22168 81622" while the 6/6 version says "

RE: Girlfriend going Canon, help!

2004-12-13 Thread Amita Guha
> What sort of cards does the Canon take, and, if they aren't > SD, how much > would she spend on new cards in addition to the quoted price of body > and "similar" lens? SD and CF cost about the same amount. The Dreb takes CF, which means she and Juan can share cards if they have to if he's usi

RE: Girlfriend going Canon, help!

2004-12-13 Thread Amita Guha
Hmm...a year after the fact, Nate still wishes he'd waited for the istD to come out instead of pouncing on the DReb when it came out. You might want to tell your GF something like that. He prefers the build and controls of the istD. Have you let her play with your camera and the DReb to see which o

RE: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Fred, I have the 4 on mine = 6/6. This verifies Shen's info on the number on the auto/man switch. So, $15.50 for EX- with original metal hood, VMC skylight, Vivitar 2x and all 4 original caps isn't too bad? Don > -Original Message- > From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: T

Re: Fw: The film is dead

2004-12-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ditto -Original Message- From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Dec 14, 2004 12:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fw: The film is dead - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Subject: Re: Fw: The film is dead >> > That's just comparing a printer system to an

RE: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Don Sanderson
On this one the "seperation" I refer to can only be seen if you hold the lens up to a strong light as tiny "swirl" marks around the outer edge of the element. The great majority of it looks clear and clean. Just for grins I took a shot with my 28-70 AL, which is seperated badly enough to be "fogged

Re: Two lenses, one great, one not so great.

2004-12-13 Thread Fred
> SMCT 135/2.5 > Superb all the way, not bad even at 2.5. > By 5.6 one of the sharpest I've seen with very > "natural" OOF areas. > Large and heavy but very smooth and easy to work with. This is my impression with the SMC "K" 135/2.5, exactly. It's a ~gorgeous~ lens design. Having, say, an A* 13

RE: Unsubscribe

2004-12-13 Thread Don Sanderson
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Re: Article About "Street Photograher" in San Francisco Chronicle

2004-12-13 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:21:00 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/527vh > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/12/11/DDGRVA99CM1.DTL&; > type=art > > Appeared in this morning's SF Chronicle. Missing in the web version is a > photo of the photog

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