Re: GESO - Double Daddio extravaganza

2010-06-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:43 +1000, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: My friends Lo and Pete played a hilarity-filled folk-blues-cabaret set last night with Christa Hughes (of Machine Gun Fellatio fame) with her daddio, Dick.

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/7/2010 9:25 PM, Bob W wrote: there are some bits and pieces on the net about this. In particular, this one: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/480271 This doesn't help you with your size problem. And this one: http://www.lightroomforums.net/index.php?topic=8041.0 I have the impression from

More on LightRoom: sidecar files or no sidecar files

2010-06-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! A quick question for those who use LR as their main work tool. Do you use sidecar files or do you put the metadata into the picture files (.DNGs then I presume)? Perhaps this could be considered as a kind of a poll, realy... Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: First the 645D now this

2010-06-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/8/2010 4:40 AM, Rick Womer wrote: You'll just have to buy both the Mamiya and the 645D, and give us a complete comparative report. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW Rick, perhaps you meant to say steal both... ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

handing the camera to someone else

2010-06-08 Thread Larry Colen
I had a brown belt exam in Aikido tonight. in short, none of the skilled photographers could take pictures tonight. Beau was also testing, and Tosh had a prior commitment. I put the FA31 on my K-x, set it on Tv and handed it to Brock. In retrospect, I should have taken a test shot and

RE: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
and here's a shot of Colossus, scanned from 35mm (probably in my brand new MZ-S, so the exposure information should be recorded on the film; now all I have to do is to find the actual film ...) http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Bletchley-2.jpg The Colossus rebuild project was very much a

RE: More on LightRoom: sidecar files or no sidecar files

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
Hi! A quick question for those who use LR as their main work tool. Do you use sidecar files or do you put the metadata into the picture files (.DNGs then I presume)? the metadata goes in the catalogue, not the picture files. If you use sidecar files I believe (but would have to check)

RE: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
[...] But Godfrey, admit it - what you describe is a manner of working around the lack (I am not saying - deficiency) of certain convenience feature in LR probably similar to what I asked about in the first place. this so-called convenience feature would be a disaster, Boris. Everything

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/8/2010 11:20 AM, Bob W wrote: this so-called convenience feature would be a disaster, Boris. Everything Godfrey has mentioned about his workflow can be done with a single catalogue. If I was the software architect in charge of LR and someone suggested what you want I would have them marched

RE: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
But consider this. I've a section called International Travel. It contains 8,000+ frames. It is a bit of a separate thing. Well, I travel, I take the pics, I export 'em and process them. So finally they end up in that section. I still need to do some keywording, but otherwise - it is

Re: RE: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine

2010-06-08 Thread Chris Mitchell
Bob W wrote: and here's a shot of Colossus, scanned from 35mm (probably in my brand new MZ-S, so the exposure information should be recorded on the film; now all I have to do is to find the actual film ...) http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Bletchley-2.jpg The Colossus rebuild project

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/8/2010 11:37 AM, Bob W wrote: OK, but think through the implications of having an uber-catalogue - not just the benefits to you, but also the disadvantages - it would introduce enormous complexity. The disadvantages will far outweigh the costs you have outlined - lugging it around and

Re: More on LightRoom: sidecar files or no sidecar files

2010-06-08 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/8 Bob W p...@web-options.com: the metadata goes in the catalogue, not the picture files. If you use sidecar files I believe (but would have to check) that this is in addition to the metadata in the catalogue, not a replacement. Most file types except proprietary raw files support

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/8 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: But Godfrey, admit it - what you describe is a manner of working around the lack (I am not saying - deficiency) of certain convenience feature in LR probably similar to what I asked about in the first place. Is it so, Boris, that what you really want

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/8 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On 6/7/2010 8:49 PM, Bob W wrote: You are trying to have your cake and eat it too. This is what programming is usually about, sir ;-). You know, that really goes a long way to explain the horrendous prices programmers charge for their services. :-)

Re: First the 645D now this

2010-06-08 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/8 Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com: NOTHING is a steal aat $17,999. Brooklyn bridge? -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Boris Liberman
It is my firm belief... Ummm, no, wrong quote... Well, someone oughtta mark it, perchance... Boris On 6/8/2010 1:21 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/6/8 Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com: On 6/7/2010 8:49 PM, Bob W wrote: You are trying to have your cake and eat it too. This is what programming

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/8/2010 1:16 PM, AlunFoto wrote: Is it so, Boris, that what you really want is to retain the metadata and perhaps a thumbnail for all the images you offload from the catalog? Right, I can live with that. Indeed, you may have the point that the integration between processing and archiving

Re: K-7 or K-x

2010-06-08 Thread AlunFoto
Barry, I brought two K-7 to South Georgia and Antarctica in December. Here's a bit of what they were exposed to: http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-226 It just kept working. And also important, it handled the change from this outdoor conditions to the warm interior of a ship

Mini GESO - Same image; different crops

2010-06-08 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all On my recent trip to the north coast of New South Wales, I came across this track leading up to a coastal headland. I thought it would make an interesting image in the right light but I also thought it would be more interesting with someone walking along the track. Not having anyone

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread mike wilson
On 8 June 2010 09:54, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe Dilberts MARK -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread mike wilson
On 8 June 2010 11:21, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: You know, that really goes a long way to explain the horrendous prices programmers charge for their services. :-) Doesn't explain why, in almost all of my dealings with Adooby, I feel like Scrat. This is aposite in so many ways.

Re: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops

2010-06-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Brian, All look pretty good to me. My preference is for the original, perhaps with the darker clouds. I'd want to keep the water on the left and little rise on the right, for the sense of place they provide. The pano is attractive as well. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Brian

Re: K-7 or K-x

2010-06-08 Thread eckinator
2010/6/8 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Barry, I brought two K-7 to South Georgia and Antarctica in December. Here's a bit of what they were exposed to: http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-226 Just wondering, Jostein - is that a Burzynski head in the picture? If so, how do you

Re: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops

2010-06-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:12 -0500, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Brian, All look pretty good to me. My preference is for the original, perhaps with the darker clouds. I'd want to keep the water on the left and little rise on the right, for the sense of place they provide. The pano

Re: First the 645D now this

2010-06-08 Thread eckinator
2010/6/8 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: 2010/6/8 Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com: NOTHING is a steal aat $17,999. Brooklyn bridge? Sorry man but that one's off the market, I bought it last year. BTW there are rumours now that is developing a medium format PS. Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: First the 645D now this

2010-06-08 Thread eckinator
2010/6/8 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2010/6/8 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: 2010/6/8 Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com: NOTHING is a steal aat $17,999. Brooklyn bridge? Sorry man but that one's off the market, I bought it last year. BTW there are rumours now that Kodak is developing a

Re: First the 645D now this

2010-06-08 Thread Adam Maas
Mamiya sells the DM22 (645AFDIII with DM22 22MP back) for about the same price as the 645D. -Adam On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It does makes the 645D look good at under $10K.  (Although I do question the use of the wordsteal for any of these

Re: handing the camera to someone else

2010-06-08 Thread eckinator
That is a bummer Larry but one I know so well - only way you learn, really. I once said to someone who grabbed my cam to just set all dials that have a green setting to green. Unfortunately I hadn't remembered WB (correctable though) and there was serious exposure compensation dialed in for flash

Re: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops

2010-06-08 Thread Jack Davis
Believe I prefer #4. I agree with including the bit of ocean and wish it were more. Grass and track awfully vivid! Jack --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops To:

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread William Robb
-- From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really) On 6/8/2010 11:20 AM, Bob W wrote: I would have them marched off the premises and sent to live in Boise, Idaho. I happen to know at least one man living

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/8/2010 4:11 PM, William Robb wrote: He probably meant to say Weyburn Saskatchewan. William Robb Bill, by saying that someone else is not bad, I don't immediately imply that you're not so... Jealousy is one of the deadly sins, if I am not mistaken ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread John Sessoms
This is probably going to be my last on Mac vs PC for now. I'm getting busy at school and barely have time to follow the list. There are about 70 students in my class, broken into three sections. Among the 70, there are maybe 10 who are over the age of 21. All the rest are right out of high

Re: PESO: Gnarley

2010-06-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Jack. Brian, this was taken near noon on a very bright and sunny June day. I had to crop to cut out areas along the top edge that were exceedingly overblown. Dan On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:37 -0400, Daniel J.

Re: On the road . . .

2010-06-08 Thread eckinator
2010/6/8 cagu...@earthlink.net cagu...@earthlink.net: in San diego with husband friends.  Saw a camel today, ate apple pie in Justin, went to the top of Laguna mt.  Running out of memory cards.  Wish I had brought a tripod.  Can,t view pesos on cell phone email.  Will be back online next

Re: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops

2010-06-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:10 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Believe I prefer #4. I agree with including the bit of ocean and wish it were more. Grass and track awfully vivid! Thanks, Jack. I actually toned the grass down a bit but I'll have another go at it. Cheers Brian

Re: OT Card reader question

2010-06-08 Thread John Sessoms
With multiple cards it's less of a pain to use an external reader than having to shuffle them all through the camera to download. Insert the card, turn the camera on, connect it to the computer, download, disconnect, turn the camera off, remove the card ... rinse repeat. And it sucks

Re: More on LightRoom: sidecar files or no sidecar files

2010-06-08 Thread Paul Sorenson
I shoot PEFs and convert to DNG when I import into LightRoom. I like to keep everything contained within one file so if I need to copy it for some other use I'm only concerned with one file. It seems to me that it's also a better backup strategy to work with one file per image rather than

White Balance Lens Cap

2010-06-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I hadn't heard of these. Has anyone tried them and, if so, do they work? -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops

2010-06-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Brian - I think the color shots all work... - that is, none of them are any better than the others - judt different. Id have wanted the figure to be less , um, posed looking - I bet she knew you were taking her photo... Love the golden light glow and such a great sky.I don't think the

Re: K-7 or K-x

2010-06-08 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/8 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2010/6/8 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Barry, I brought two K-7 to South Georgia and Antarctica in December. Here's a bit of what they were exposed to: http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-226 Just wondering, Jostein - is that a

K-7 or K-x

2010-06-08 Thread Barry Rice
Hey Charles, Hmm. I might have just been unlucky. I was certainly very happy when it returned to normal! Barry Indeed, while I was on this recent trip, a VERY well aimed, massive raindrop at the lead of a major thunderstom cracked into the back of my K10. I blew the water out, but

Re: PESO - Nocturnal Chicago

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Bob. My interest in nighttime shooting has been increasing, and was a big reason for my getting a K7. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, Interesting photos.  I put the camera away when it's dark out.  I'll have

Re: PESO - Nocturnal Chicago

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Jack! Most photos provide openings for individual interpretation, of course... Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I relate more to the second. Nicely composed, Rick! I see the first as simply providing a scene open

Re: PESO - Nocturnal Chicago

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Womer
Which is to say you like pix of pedestrians? I've got lots of them! Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: I agree.  Perhaps I've just got pedestrian tastes (not that that should be taken as inferring that Jack has 

Re: PESO - Nocturnal Chicago

2010-06-08 Thread Jack Davis
Some more than others. For me, image #1 approaches the abstract. I agree, all photos leave some room, however small, for individual interpretation. Jack --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: PESO - Nocturnal Chicago To:

Re: White Balance Lens Cap

2010-06-08 Thread eckinator
I prefer a grey card. I like to think they are more accurate plus they provide me an 18% exposure readout which the caps don't do. Also, I kind of assume they have limitations depending on where you point your camera. Further to that I've seen those caps sold from as low as € 1.99 (eBay) to as

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/6/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The network is also set up to be Mac only, to indoctrinate the kids properly from the beginning John, you're getting the idea ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche --

Re: White Balance Lens Cap

2010-06-08 Thread Adam Maas
A couple things to remember: 1. Grey cards aren't always neutral. The Kodak ones in particular are somewhat warm. 2. Your meter is calibrated for approximately 12.5% grey (ISO standard). Cards are calibrated to 18% grey (Kodak's choice at Ansel Adams suggestion). Thus grey cards do not actually

Re: Mini GESO - Same image; different crops

2010-06-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
I'm with Bob on this one. Because the girl is not THE subject, but more of a prop - as you described, cropping to make her more prominent doesn't really help. So I vote for uncropped with darker clouds. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 5:12:52 AM, you wrote: BS Brian, BS All

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control? -- Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 6:19:51 AM, you wrote: JS This is probably going to be my last on Mac vs PC for now. I'm getting JS busy at school and barely have time to follow the list. JS There are about 70 students in my class, broken into

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/6/10, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control? Ridiculous! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil... -- Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 9:35:53 AM, you wrote: C On 8/6/10, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control? C Ridiculous! C -- C Cheers, C Cotty C ___/\__ C || (O) | People, Places,

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/6/10, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil... ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Boris, PESO #22 and #23 -

2010-06-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Two PESOs: #22 - A riddle: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/06/peso-2010-22-riddle.html #23 - Cell phone experiment: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/06/peso-2010-23-cell-phone-project.html Be brutal and honest, as usual. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Boris, PESO #22 and #23 -

2010-06-08 Thread Jack Davis
Like Riddle. Can't be certain, but I might like it better with the gray smudges/shadows on the left removed and with a slight crop of that edge. Cell phone shot raises a question as to the focus point. It appears impractically low in the frame. May, of course, just be true in this image.(?)

Re: First GFM report

2010-06-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 6/6/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: The weekend was long, beautiful, grueling and rewarding. Nothing beats seeing old friends at such a fabulous place for such a great event. Stef and I reminisced about last year's trip by looking through some pics and video on

Re: Boris, PESO #22 and #23 -

2010-06-08 Thread Richard D Bush
Boris, The cell phone photo is very good. Maybe it won't stand a 16x20 enlargement, but it is most usable for lots of things. RB On Jun 8, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Two PESOs: #22 - A riddle: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/06/peso-2010-22-riddle.html #23 - Cell

Re: White Balance Lens Cap

2010-06-08 Thread eckinator
2010/6/8 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: A couple things to remember: 1. Grey cards aren't always neutral. The Kodak ones in particular are somewhat warm. 2. Your meter is calibrated for approximately 12.5% grey (ISO standard). Cards are calibrated to 18% grey (Kodak's choice at Ansel Adams

Re: K-7 or K-x

2010-06-08 Thread eckinator
2010/6/8 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Not a Burzinsky. I think they look just too weird... :-) LOL yeah the guy has a free mind... who needs design anyway =) Mine is a RRS 55mm ballhead with a lever-clamped quick-release. http://reallyrightstuff.com/mmRRS/Images/gallery/BH55LR.png Which I

Re: White Balance Lens Cap

2010-06-08 Thread CheekyGeek
Oops. I'm apparently sending Rich Text messages to this list again. RESEN On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:17 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC there is a way to correct this in LR. Of course you can correct it. The idea of using the white balance cap shot is so you don't have to. : )

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-08 10:28 , Bruce Dayton wrote: Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control? it has nothing to do with Apple -- if the school were using Windows it seems clear they'd have a similar policy; i've seen the same kind of policy (for Windows and/or Mac) in various environments with

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Seem to have touched a raw nerve. -- Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 10:29:04 AM, you wrote: sh On 2010-06-08 10:28 , Bruce Dayton wrote: Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control? sh it has nothing to do with Apple -- if the school were using Windows it sh seems clear they'd have a similar

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-08 11:32 , Bruce Dayton wrote: Seem to have touched a raw nerve. eh? just wasn't a sensible comment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

PESO: The One That Got Away

2010-06-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
This one is submitted for the humor value. Photography is like fishing: sometimes it seems that the big catch always gets away. Over the weekend, I looked out my window to see three fawns playing in the back yard. (By now, you all know how I love to photograph deer, and especially fawns.) I

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
If you could see the forest through the trees, I think you would see it as sensible. -- Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 10:47:23 AM, you wrote: sh On 2010-06-08 11:32 , Bruce Dayton wrote: Seem to have touched a raw nerve. sh eh? just wasn't a sensible comment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Sam L
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Suppose I've a LR catalog A. Now, it is very big and I want to take part of it out and make a separate catalog (suppose it is all my family album pictures for sake of example). So I make catalog B that contains a

Re: K-7 or K-x

2010-06-08 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/8 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: Mine is a RRS 55mm ballhead with a lever-clamped quick-release. http://reallyrightstuff.com/mmRRS/Images/gallery/BH55LR.png Which I feel very good about. Looks nice like it can hold its own. Like the double portrait cutouts. The winning point for me

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 8, 2010, at 13:23, Sam L wrote: For the physical files in the directories above, he leaves the newer files on his laptop. But the old stuff (say anything before 2008) he removes the files/directories and stores them physically on a backup drive. And the drive has the same simple file

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-08 12:18 , Bruce Dayton wrote: If you could see the forest through the trees, I think you would see it as sensible. i see a forest of attitude through trees of poorly-aimed snark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT Card reader question

2010-06-08 Thread steve harley
a slight diversion, but i think it's worth mentioning that some computers have card readers built-in, which may seem a small convenience, but if you use it enough it can be a major selling point; i certainly use the SD slot in my computer a lot -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
I bow to the Apple god who must always be vindicated. I'm done. -- Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 11:37:24 AM, you wrote: sh On 2010-06-08 12:18 , Bruce Dayton wrote: If you could see the forest through the trees, I think you would see it as sensible. sh i see a forest of attitude through

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread William Robb
-- From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really) He probably meant to say Weyburn Saskatchewan. Bill, by saying that someone else is not bad, I don't immediately imply that you're not so... Jealousy is

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread William Robb
-- From: steve harley Subject: Re: OT - Abobe Woes On 2010-06-08 12:18 , Bruce Dayton wrote: If you could see the forest through the trees, I think you would see it as sensible. i see a forest of attitude through trees of poorly-aimed snark

DA* 16-50 2.8 faulty?

2010-06-08 Thread Chris Mitchell
Intermittently, it's not auto focussing in the middle distance on my K-7 (so SDM). I've tried it on many types of subject and when it goes wrong, it hunts and the only option for me is to focus manually. Has anyone else had this problem? Is it the SDM issue that others have mentioned? Anything

RE: White Balance Lens Cap [Scanned][Spam score:8%]

2010-06-08 Thread John Whittingham
You can get a Digital greycard, specificly for DSLR's, I have one, works really well. IIRC I got it for free on a camera mag cover here in the UK, lighter in colour to the Kodak grey cards which I also own for film use Regards, John From:

Re: White Balance Lens Cap

2010-06-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote: Your meter is calibrated for approximately 12.5% grey (ISO standard). I believe it's ANSI standard ANSI PH3.49-1971 As far as I know it hasn't been made into an ISO standard. Did I miss it? Cards are calibrated to 18% grey (Kodak's choice at Ansel Adams suggestion). Thus grey

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Sam L
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 8, 2010, at 13:23, Sam L wrote: For the physical files in the directories above, he leaves the newer files on his laptop.  But the old stuff (say anything before 2008) he removes the files/directories and stores

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 8, 2010, at 14:38, Sam L wrote: You could do it that way, but it's much more work than you need to go through. Next time you want to edit an old photo... click on the question-mark in the corner of the thumbnail and it will ask you where you want it to look for the location of

Re: DA* 16-50 2.8 faulty?

2010-06-08 Thread eckinator
sounds more like the af itself - they don't call it saFOX hunt for othing... 2010/6/8 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net: Intermittently, it's not auto focussing in the middle distance on my K-7 (so SDM). I've tried it on many types of subject and when it goes wrong, it hunts and the only

Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread David Parsons
I do that, but instead of copying the files back and forth to work on them, I just added my storage drive into LR so it can see them directly. Most of the time the folder isn't connected, but when I need to access them, I browse to the folder in Windows, and it reconnects, then LR can access the

Re: White Balance Lens Cap

2010-06-08 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: Your meter is calibrated for approximately 12.5% grey (ISO standard). I believe it's ANSI standard ANSI PH3.49-1971 As far as I know it hasn't been made into an ISO standard. Did I miss it? ISO

Re: OT Card reader question

2010-06-08 Thread Adam Maas
My PC has a SD reader in it. Like most built-in readers it's convenient but rather much on the slow side. I use my Sandisk 12-in-1 reader instead. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:38 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: a slight diversion, but i think it's worth mentioning that some computers

Re: First GFM report

2010-06-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/6/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW: Next year marks the 10th anniversary of the first PDML meetup at the Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. Oh sweet Jesus - now you've gone and done it. GFM enablement...whatever next? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

PESO: Cathedral Rocks

2010-06-08 Thread Jack Davis
I'm given you a couple or three days break, but that's it! Another look at Bridalveil falls, but isolated with the feature known as Cathedral Rocks. Shot from Tunnel View, the valley's most popular photo location. Comments warmly received. Jack Color..

Re: White Balance Lens Cap

2010-06-08 Thread David Parsons
A frosted Pringles cap or coffee can lid works exactly the same. Perrsonally, I'll take my WB off a sheet of white paper when I have to set a custom WB. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I hadn't heard of these.  Has anyone tried them and, if so, do

Re: PESO: Cathedral Rocks

2010-06-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/6/10, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: BW.. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=518 Captivating :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

Re: PESO: Cathedral Rocks

2010-06-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Gorgeous! I prefer the color version. Dan On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm given you a couple or three days break, but that's it! Another look at Bridalveil falls, but isolated with the feature known as Cathedral Rocks. Shot from Tunnel View, the

Re: PESO: Cathedral Rocks

2010-06-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Wonderful image! I much prefer the color for this one. Boy do I have to get down there! -- Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 1:36:00 PM, you wrote: JD I'm given you a couple or three days break, but that's it! JD Another look at Bridalveil falls, but isolated with the feature known as Cathedral

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-08 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/8/2010 12:28 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Isn't that the 'Apple' way? Tight control? /Strict/ control, (ask Cotty). -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the

Re: First GFM report

2010-06-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 8/6/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW: Next year marks the 10th anniversary of the first PDML meetup at the Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. Oh sweet Jesus - now you've gone and done it.

Re: OT Card reader question

2010-06-08 Thread David J Brooks
Mine is about 8 1.2 years old and on USB 1. Take it from there.:-) Dave On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:38 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: a slight diversion, but i think it's worth mentioning that some computers have card readers built-in, which may seem a small convenience, but if you

RE: OT Card reader question

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
This PC ( a netbook ) has an SD reader built in. The bigger computer (17 laptop) has a multicard reader built in. All very convenient except they didn't include CF, which is what I use in the Olympus. Bob My PC has a SD reader in it. Like most built-in readers it's convenient but rather

RE: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
[...] In fact, Bob, you don't have to convince me that I could live without this feature, 'cause I've been alive so far. I am thinking that my life would be slightly easier with this capability. The rest as usual, is up to time and Adobe Dilberts... actually, I don't think it is a matter

Re: Peso Stone and bush

2010-06-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:43 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11103020 From Sibbald's Point. There are a number of stones were the bush as crept up to them and

RE: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
Basically, what I want is to retain the completeness of my keywords data base, so that if I want to find photos of my daughter or photos of Jerusalem, I won't have to remember to search both in my local photo collection and in those photos that I shot when you came. Though I suppose I gave

RE: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
I would have them marched off the premises and sent to live in Boise, Idaho. I happen to know at least one man living exactly there and he seems like a good guy to me... ;-) He probably meant to say Weyburn Saskatchewan. I sure did, but Boise Idaho is easier to pronounce. --

Re: OT Card reader question

2010-06-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: This PC ( a netbook ) has an SD reader built in. The bigger computer (17 laptop) has a multicard reader built in. All very convenient except they didn't include CF, which is what I use in the Olympus. Bob I have four cameras

RE: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
Suppose I've a LR catalog A. Now, it is very big and I want to take part of it out and make a separate catalog (suppose it is all my family album pictures for sake of example). So I make catalog B that contains a subset of pictures from catalog A. I then go and remove from A all the

RE: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)

2010-06-08 Thread Bob W
He probably meant to say Weyburn Saskatchewan. Bill, by saying that someone else is not bad, I don't immediately imply that you're not so... Jealousy is one of the deadly sins, if I am not mistaken ;-). Apparently you've never been to Weyburn. He's been to Nice and the isles

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