Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-03 Thread Herb Chong
Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:01 PM Subject: Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource Actually, there are ways to do things like this. It is very common for applications to read every 8th pixel of a JPEG to make a thumbnail, or display a rough

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-02 Thread vr
John Francis wrote: not to display some of the pixels if they were available, and there's no reasonable way to get some of the pixels from an image without getting all of them (except, as noted, if it were a progressive JPEG). how is that? you can give an order to address and read every 4th

RE: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-02 Thread Rob Brigham
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 April 2004 11:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource John Francis wrote: not to display some of the pixels if they were available, and there's no reasonable way to get some of the pixels from an image without

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-02 Thread Peter J. Alling
is not easy or perhaps even possible for a standard jpg... -Original Message- From: vr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 April 2004 11:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource John Francis wrote: not to display some of the pixels if they were

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-02 Thread John Francis
John Francis wrote: not to display some of the pixels if they were available, and there's no reasonable way to get some of the pixels from an image without getting all of them (except, as noted, if it were a progressive JPEG). how is that? you can give an order to address

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-02 Thread Peter Loveday
Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 9:40 AM Subject: Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource JPEG compresses data. you don't know what the nth pixel is until you decompress enough of the file to find it. some other formats do row level lossless compression

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-01 Thread Greg Lovern
Maybe it's a stealth upgrade to newer *ist-D's I doubt that, for two reasons: 1) I emailed the Image Resource reviewer a few weeks ago asking if he was ever going to review the *ist D. He replied that he'd started an *ist D review a long time ago but had been unable to find the time to finish

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-01 Thread Frits Wüthrich
197.5 MB total On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 01:40, William M Kane wrote: The question is what speed DID you confirm? I believe that the original article spoke of an unusually high speed for USB 1.1, but didn't claim it was of USB 2.0 caliber . . . . . . so the question becomes, How many MB were

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-01 Thread Keith Whaley
Bucky wrote: When one previews the picture in the on-camera screen, you will notice that the camera apparently loads a small image first. Then, if you keep that image in the monitor for a few seconds, it is substituted with a larger one. You can see the effect when you call up a preview of a

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-04-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Apr 2004 at 12:37, Keith Whaley wrote: There's no replacing of one low-resolution image with another high res image. It's a filling in of pixel information left out of the initial pass. It sounds like the embedded jpeg may be a variation on progressive jpeg which does in fact display

New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread Greg Lovern
New review of the *ist D at Imaging Resource: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/ISTD/ISTDA.HTM Very positive; maybe the most positive I've read. Greg

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2004-03-31, at 14:40, Mark Roberts wrote: While the manual claims that the *ist D only supports the USB v1.1 interface standard, my own tests seemed to show that it's actually running at USB v2.0 speeds. I clocked its download speed at 1963 KB/second with a Lexar 24x memory card, connected to

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I just ran a test and I can NOT confirm the USB2 speed for the *ist D connected to a PC. This is what I did: I connected the *ist D with my PC by means of the Pentax supplied USB cable, and copied all 15 RAW images that I had on the flash card to a folder on a drive of my PC. That took about 3

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread alex wetmore
On 31 Mar 2004, Frits [ISO-8859-1] Wüthrich wrote: I just ran a test and I can NOT confirm the USB2 speed for the *ist D connected to a PC. This is what I did: I connected the *ist D with my PC by means of the Pentax supplied USB cable, and copied all 15 RAW images that I had on the flash

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread alex wetmore
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, William M Kane wrote: . . . so the question becomes, How many MB were the 15 RAW files? RAW files are 13mb. 13 * 15 = 195mb. alex

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread William M Kane
Which means they were moving at .92 MB/s with the USB cable connected to the camera. and 3.14 MB/s with the USB 2.0 6 in 1 reader. On Wednesday, March 31, 2004, at 05:49 PM, alex wetmore wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, William M Kane wrote: . . . so the question becomes, How many MB were the 15

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread Mark Cassino
Maybe it's a stealth upgrade to newer *ist-D's - my *ist-D hooked directly to the PC and my USB 1.1 card reader both take about 20 minutes to download 1 gig of data. My X-Drive II takes only ~5 minutes for the same transfer using USB 2. The card in the X-Drive reader is somewhat faster than

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread Herb Chong
my Lexar Media Firewire card takes just over 3 minutes for a full 1G card. Herb - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:57 PM Subject: Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource Maybe it's a stealth upgrade

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: William M Kane Subject: Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource The question is what speed DID you confirm? I believe that the original article spoke of an unusually high speed for USB 1.1, but didn't claim it was of USB 2.0 caliber . . . . . . so

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31 Mar 2004 at 22:06, William Robb wrote: I thought RAW files were kinda fixed size. I don't know if you recall but John did mentioned a few weeks back that they also include an embedded jpg file. From my experience they vary in size from around 12,750kB to 14,500kB. Rob Studdert

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31 Mar 2004 at 23:19, Frits Wüthrich wrote: I just ran a test and I can NOT confirm the USB2 speed for the *ist D connected to a PC. Nor me. I loaded a file of almost 1GB on my Ridata 52x Pro card and found the following Card read results: X-Drive II via USB2 (add on PCI Via card)

Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread John Francis
On 31 Mar 2004 at 22:06, William Robb wrote: I thought RAW files were kinda fixed size. I don't know if you recall but John did mentioned a few weeks back that they also include an embedded jpg file. From my experience they vary in size from around 12,750kB to 14,500kB. Several JPEG

RE: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource

2004-03-31 Thread Bucky
PROTECTED] Sent: 31-Mar-04 20:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource On 31 Mar 2004 at 22:06, William Robb wrote: I thought RAW files were kinda fixed size. I don't know if you recall but John did mentioned a few weeks back that they also

*ist D review in Popular Photography

2003-12-12 Thread Tom Reese
The new issue contained a pretty comprehensive review of the camera and was pretty positive. The only complaints were that it's slow to focus in dim light, it doesn't come with rechargable batteries and it's a little more expensive than the competition. The biggest good thing (IMO) is that the

Re: *ist D review in Popular Photography

2003-12-12 Thread Joseph Tainter
It was very positive. The reviewer did, however, identify the 50 f1.4 as an FAJ lens. Joe

Re: *ist D review

2003-11-20 Thread Robert Gonzalez
Great work on the *istD. I also have the epson 925. Had a little trouble with it producing streaks. I think it gets clogged easily. I like your review of the 3200 scanner. I'm looking for a scanner right now to scan alot of Kodachrome slides, which seem to be really difficult according to

*ist D review

2003-11-19 Thread Brian Dipert
Happy reading; any and all feedback always welcomed: http://www.reed-electronics.com/ednmag/article/CA336981 == Brian Dipert Technical Editor: Mass Storage, Memory, Multimedia, PC Core Logic and Peripherals, and Programmable Logic EDN Magazine: http://www.edn.com 5000

Re: *ist D review

2003-11-19 Thread Jim Apilado
] Subject: *ist D review Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:34:13 -0500 Happy reading; any and all feedback always welcomed: http://www.reed-electronics.com/ednmag/article/CA336981 == Brian Dipert Technical Editor: Mass Storage

Amteur Photographer *ist D review - first impression

2003-09-27 Thread Cotty
Just picked up the rag...leafing through...looks goodvery favourable review2 small gripes, button locations and 1 in 20 or 30 shots underexposingwill read and precis soon Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps

Amateur Photographer *ist D review - precis

2003-09-27 Thread Cotty
Okay digital dabblers, here's what AP has to say about the diminutive Pentax *ist D: The review is by Chris Gatcum and I hope the snippets of verbatim text here will act as an impetus to go and buy the magazine (where available) instead of providing AP with ammunition for breach of copyright. I

Re: Amateur Photographer *ist D review - precis

2003-09-27 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Cotty, on 27 Sep 03 you wrote in pentax.list: Okay digital dabblers, here's what AP has to say about the diminutive Pentax *ist D: Thanks a lot! Very nice article. I'm quite sure that you will handle a *istD as soon as you can get one into your fingers. I'm looking forward to your

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-21 Thread Dag T
På lørdag, 20. september 2003, kl. 23:20, skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: Dag T Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd) Any WP version of ´95 may read (almost) any text written in its latest versions. Hows that for compatibility? My wife was using WP 6 at work. I

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Damn. And on my G4 Apple, I'm using an Epson scanner, an Epson printer, an ACOM firewire drive, a couple of IBM SCSI drives, and four PCI cards from several manufacturers. Now you tell me that Apple doesn't support anything but Apple hardware? Maybe

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-21 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I had the same experience when I put took out an old HP and replaced it with an AOpen 52X burner two weeks ago. No trouble at all. I use it with Nero and it takes longer to set up the 'lead in' and 'out' than it takes to burn the backups. But there is a disadvantage; those drives get rather hot

OT: Apple/Mac software [WAS: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)]

2003-09-21 Thread Keith Whaley
Hi Paul, Fact is, Apple's software stability is the result of what used to be Apple's insistence that software coders follow Apple's coding methods (I don't know what else to call them) and to do it by the numbers. In other words, do it exactly according to Apple's cookbook -- their rules and

Re: OT: Apple/Mac software [WAS: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)]

2003-09-21 Thread Keith Whaley
I wasn't paying much attention to what I was typing, I guess, and I seriously mis-spoke! I have no idea how HFS slipped into the comments! Geez! Apologies all around! Remove HFS/HFS+ from the comments, and they read okay. Big ooops! keith whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Keith Whaley

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-20 Thread Peter Alling
The camera is programmed to recognize if the lens is set to A or can be set to A. If it falls into one of these categories you must override the programming to fire the shutter. When you do this the camera shuts off the meter. It's a software feature. At 06:31 PM 9/17/03 +0100, you wrote:

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Bruce Dayton
Jeez, Cameron, get off it will you? Just cause your experience with Windows is much like Alan Chan's Pentax experience doesn't mean the rest of us have the same problems and experience. TAKE IT TO ANOTHER FORUM ABOUT COMPUTERS PLEASE! Bruce Friday, September 19, 2003, 6:13:28 PM, you

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Cameron Hood
Doug Franklin wrote Uhhh. There weren't no .386 stuff when PCs or DOS was invented. The iAPX386 chip didn't come out until several years later. PCs used the 8088 chip which was an 8-bit external bus version of the 8086, which had a 16-bit external bus. Both had 16-bit internal busses. I rest

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Cameron Hood
On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 12:17 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Jeez, Cameron, get off it will you? Just cause your experience with Windows is much like Alan Chan's Pentax experience doesn't mean the rest of us have the same problems and experience. TAKE IT TO ANOTHER FORUM ABOUT COMPUTERS

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Cameron Hood
Dear Boz, I love your site! Are you going to be posting those updated *ist D pics? The first ones were fairly terrifying to those of us who were planning to buy the camera. C.

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread graywolf
And for what it is worth the istD is supposed to allow for firmware updates throught the USB port. Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! KW Writing the code is less than 20% of a project's time. The rest is KW debugging the stuff, and getting it to conform to the original KW requirements. WindowsME is a

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread graywolf
I don't know why that Apple stuff keeps getting repeated. The Apple I was a kit computer produced in a garage. The Apple II was the first apple computer to come out as a production model. However, you could actually buy a Radio Shack TRS-80 (1977) before you could an Apple II, though I think

Cameron's Mac Fervor; WAS Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread ernreed2
Cameron quoted and posted as follows: On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 12:17 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Jeez, Cameron, get off it will you? Just cause your experience with Windows is much like Alan Chan's Pentax experience doesn't mean the rest of us have the same problems and

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd) Much of the reason for Apples software stability is the Apple philosophy, We support Apple hardware only. Where other brands of computers may have almost any hardware from any manufacture

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Dag T
På lørdag, 20. september 2003, kl. 22:41, skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd) Much of the reason for Apples software stability is the Apple philosophy, We support Apple hardware only. Where other brands of computers may

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Dag T
Well I don´t care about the history, I bought an iMac a year ago because I liked Unix and Xwindows, in 1987. Windows 3.0 was a big disappointment, and though MS may have improved I still don´t like it. We complain about compatibility with Pentax, but MS cripples the mount every second year.

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Dag T Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd) Sure, I made a Powerpoint presentation yesterday, nice, but it didn´t work in the next Powerpoint version I tried. I guess it´s my fault, but I´m glad I didn´t trust it. It was the same

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Dag T Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd) Any WP version of ´95 may read (almost) any text written in its latest versions. Hows that for compatibility? My wife was using WP 6 at work. I sent her something written with WP 9. No go, she couldn't

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Peter Alling
Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd) But, for those of you who need it spelled out in detail: Which bodies can use the FA-J lenses in aperture priority (and/or manual)? Wouldn't the cameras that control everything from the body (MZ-30? as an example) be able to use them? As an aside

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Doug Franklin wrote: Uhhh. There weren't no .386 stuff when PCs or DOS was invented. T Of course when PCs were invented, there already were several PCs on the market, the Apple among them.

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Bruce Dayton wrote: Jeez, Cameron, get off it will you? Just cause your experience with Windows is much like Alan Chan's Pentax experience doesn't mean the rest of us have the same problems and experience. TAKE IT TO ANOTHER FORUM ABOUT COMPUTERS PLEASE! I was pleased to hear

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
graywolf wrote: Much of the reason for Apples software stability is the Apple philosophy, We support Apple hardware only. Where other brands of computers may have almost any hardware from any manufacture in it Apple only has to support Apple hardware that simplifies the task immensely.

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Sep 2003 at 23:03, Paul Stenquist wrote: Damn. And on my G4 Apple, I'm using an Epson scanner, an Epson printer, an ACOM firewire drive, a couple of IBM SCSI drives, and four PCI cards from several manufacturers. Now you tell me that Apple doesn't support anything but Apple hardware?

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I couldn't agree more. Take Linux for example wink. There is another point to what you saying, Doug. I think that shareware/freeware usually written by a single programmer during their off hours like a weekend mechanic has much less ambition than similar piece of quite often junk written by

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Alin Flaider
Chris wrote: CB Like any other huge change CB designed to slip in under the radar and avoid pissing off tons of people CB at once, the disappearance of the aperture ring will be slow, subtle, and CB almost inevitable. Pentax in their wisdom waited for a long time for an occasion to

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Chris Brogden wrote: Actually, the *ist will work fine with MF lenses. No, it's a cripple-mount, so it won't work with non-A lenses. The best it can work with them is like the MZ-50 (metering at full, but stopping down for the exposure, thus underexposing). Kostas

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread cbwaters
Kostas, I have several MF lenses that are also A lenses. I expect the D to work fine with them. Cory Waters - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:29 AM Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Is it not interesting that people are predicting Pentax's Future from crippled (and mostly LowBall) bodies? Hell, I am too. Well, the old glass is still cheap, may get cheaper, and as long as my eyes can still focus, the hell with it. Chris Brogden wrote: Now Pentax users know *exactly* how Nikon

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Arnold, I 'spects you are right. This is just as awkward and stupid as using a K-1000 to get DOF. Pentax needs to change the firmware. PENTAX NEEDS TO CHANGE THE FIRMWARE. (repeat after me:) PENTAX NEEDS TO CHANGE THE FIRMWARE. PENTAX NEEDS TO CHANGE THE FIRMWARE. PENTAX NEEDS TO CHANGE THE

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Mark, I think this is crap. Pentax has been screwing with DLSRs for 4 years. That's enough time to hatch, say, WindowsME. And cameras ain't as hard as operating sytems. Pentax may need to hire some more SW engineers. Mebbe they can find some in Pakinstan. Mark Roberts wrote: whickersworld [EMAIL

My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Kristian Walsh
On Friday, Sep 19, 2003, at 20:49 Europe/Dublin, Lon wrote: Mark, I think this is crap. Pentax has been screwing with DLSRs for 4 years. That's enough time to hatch, say, WindowsME. And cameras ain't as hard as operating sytems. Pentax may need to hire some more SW engineers. Mebbe they can find

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread graywolf
Gee, I sure hope the istD works better than WinME. Lon Williamson wrote: Mark, I think this is crap. Pentax has been screwing with DLSRs for 4 years. That's enough time to hatch, say, WindowsME. And cameras ain't as hard as operating sytems. Pentax may need to hire some more SW engineers. Mebbe

RE: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread zoomshot
It works better than XP, just try it... And XP is very stable. Ziggy -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 September 2003 00:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd) Gee, I sure hope the istD works better

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Cameron Hood
On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Writing the code is less than 20% of a project's time. The rest is debugging the stuff, and getting it to conform to the original requirements. WindowsME is a bad example to compare against, because like a lot of MS software,

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread graywolf
I have always found it interesting that as soon as Mr Gates quites supporting a product for a fee, he comes out with a final upgrade and from then on it works pretty good. But then I have be told that I paranoid and distrustful. (And for the literately challenged, please note that comma is

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
Gates should be in jail for what he did, and continues to do; instead, he is the richest man in the world, and is lauded as some kind of giant American hero. Time will prove that he has perpetrated the largest scam in corporate history. And we have all been his victims. Get a Mac, you'll

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
Doe ;-) OTOH, I've had a lot less problems with 98, 2000, and Me that it sounds like you have had. Fewer. Drat slipped up. Bugs everywhere. Anyway, fewer for those who care. Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:13:28 -0700, Cameron Hood wrote: PC's, since their invention back in the DOS 2.0 days Uhhh. Your history is a little foggy. PCs were invented before DOS 1.0, which was purchased from Seattle Computer Systems (I think) and was a knock off of CPM-86. around for solutions

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:31:34 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, I don't think it's that simple. Being a computer programmer (for fun) and having been a computer programmer (for wages), I am not sure it was all deliberate (I think some of it was to force people to buy technical support --

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
It was and is deliberate, but not in the sense of having a team of programmers that does nothing but foul up what the rest of the teams are doing. It is deliberate in the sense of intentionally choosing not to use best practices in the development cycle, from inception to coding to testing to

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! KW Writing the code is less than 20% of a project's time. The rest is KW debugging the stuff, and getting it to conform to the original KW requirements. WindowsME is a bad example to compare against, because KW like a lot of MS software, it's written and released with as little KW testing

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-18 Thread Alan Chan
That wasn't the reason why I abandoned Nikon for Pentax, but it was probably *one* of the reasons. Now Pentax have done it, and Canon and Minolta did it a long time ago, I have nowhere to go! You can always go LEICA, the final destination... Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Arnold Stark
In manual mode, the *ist D does stop down a K or M lens (or A/F/FA lenses that are not in A position). Only it does not meter. It is in Av mode (metered!) that a K or M lens (or A/F/FA lenses that are not in A position) does not get stopped down but stays wide open all the time (unless one

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread whickersworld
Chris Brogden wrote: So if the Nikon D100 will stop down an MF lens in manual mode (no meter), then it's actually a step ahead of the *istD, which won't even stop down an MF Pentax K-mount lens. That's sad. Yes, it is sad. In each case, the necessary engineering would have cost only a

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-18 Thread whickersworld
Alan Chan wrote: whickersworld wrote: That wasn't the reason why I abandoned Nikon for Pentax, but it was probably *one* of the reasons. Now Pentax have done it, and Canon and Minolta did it a long time ago, I have nowhere to go! You can always go LEICA, the final destination... Well, I

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Bojidar_Dimitrov
Hello, Canon users must be feeling some rumblings of unease, considering that Canon's new 18-35mm lens for the Digital Rebel won't fit on their 35mm bodies Exactly so. No, not exactly so. Pentax and Nikon made a marketing decision to drop support for their oldest lenses. Canon made a

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-18 Thread whickersworld
William Robb wrote: Nikon was doing this sort of thing long before the F80. I don't recall which model, it may have been the N601 from the late 1980s which would not work at all with non AI lenses, though they would mount with no problem. The F401 (N4004) had this problem, but I didn't (and

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Mark Roberts
whickersworld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Brogden wrote: So if the Nikon D100 will stop down an MF lens in manual mode (no meter), then it's actually a step ahead of the *istD, which won't even stop down an MF Pentax K-mount lens. That's sad. Yes, it is sad. In each case, the

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Alin Flaider
I have no doubt the market pressure had no influence on Pentax decision to cut the backwards mount compatibility. Mechanical aperture coupler and corresponding firmware were nothing new, P could have inherited the solutions from previous bodies just as they did with various other common

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
Chris, I could be mistaken, but I was under the impression that the Nikon D100 will NOT meter with older lenses. I'll ask my buddy who has one tomorrow. Bruce Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 6:28:19 PM, you wrote: CB So if the Nikon D100 will stop down an MF lens in manual mode (no meter),

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread John Francis
Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was a deliberate, cynical move to force owners of old lenses to buy new ones. I don't buy this at all. The target demographic for the DSLR does not consist of a significant number of people who own old lenses. They certainly comprise a

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread John Francis
. . . Canon made a marketing decision to deliberately drop support for some functions in the 300D. But their decision not to support the new wide-angle on the existing bodies is a technical one. That lens protrudes too deeply into the lens mount, and owuld interfere

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread John Francis
Which bodies can use the FA-J lenses in aperture priority (and/or manual)? Wouldn't the cameras that control everything from the body (MZ-30? as an example) be able to use them? Yes. But I haven't been keeping up to date - which are these? Let's start with the PZ-1p *ist-D. Any

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was a deliberate, cynical move to force owners of old lenses to buy new ones. I don't buy this at all. The target demographic for the DSLR does not consist of a significant number of people who own old

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Alin Flaider
John wrote: JF It's funny how all the tirades seem to be aimed at the newer JF bodies, and not at the new FAJ lenses. Actually they had their share (don't know if you were here by then). People still find it hard to believe FAJ is the future - maybe because the first incarnations are cheap

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, John Francis wrote: Which bodies can use the FA-J lenses in aperture priority (and/or manual)? Wouldn't the cameras that control everything from the body (MZ-30? as an example) be able to use them? Yes. But I haven't been keeping up to date - which are these?

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread graywolf
Makes sense. Mark Roberts wrote: In the case of stop-down metering in the *ist-D I suspect that money wasn't as much of a factor as time. Even with the lack of the aperture simulator, stop-down metering certainly could have been implemented in software (using the DOF preview) but would have

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Sep 2003 at 14:07, John Francis wrote: Quite right. It's funny how all the tirades seem to be aimed at the newer bodies, and not at the new FAJ lenses. These have even worse compatability problems with old bodies, but I don't hear them being described as a plot to force people to buy

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-18 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, whickersworld wrote: Once their compatibility decreases, and the lenses they produce (like Nikon's G-series) stop working on MF bodies, then they've just alientated a lot of people. They'll still make money selling cheap SLRs and ps cameras, but they'll simply be

Re: My *ist D review is now complete

2003-09-17 Thread Arnold Stark
Robert Gonzalez schrieb: Thanks Boz, very interesting. Some of the Pentax images look slightly underexposed as compared to the Canon images. By the look of them, I'd say that the sensor is pretty much close to or exceeding the limits of the lenses. I.e., you can really see the difference

Re: My *ist D review is now complete

2003-09-17 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hello Robert, The 5 image continuous max keeps bugging me when they had originally said max. I wonder if its because you had noise reduction turned on? I had it turned off. I need to reread my text, maybe I wrote it wrong... Thanks for pointing it out, Boz

My own little *ist D review

2003-09-17 Thread Arnold Stark
As reviews of the *ist D are flying in here is my own little contribution. I have been able to play with the *ist D pre-production model serial number 5645034 last weekend. I helped Boz in taking pictures for his comparison with the Canon 10D (see his review at

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-17 Thread Herb Chong
AM Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review Actually, the image at http://www.arnoldstark.de/bilder/030914_istD_testtafellinien.jpg. is not compressed but stored at the maximum size available in JPEG. I believe that in this case there are no JPEG artifacts. However, I can send a portion

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-17 Thread Arnold Stark
No. Arnold This would really be a very drastic way to have the *ist D meter with K and M lenses at alle apertures. However, it would only work in Av mode. In manual mode the meter would still be OFF. And you would have to use your crippled lenses with real aperture metering, only, on your

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-17 Thread Cotty
This would really be a very drastic way to have the *ist D meter with K and M lenses at alle apertures. However, it would only work in Av mode. In manual mode the meter would still be OFF. And you would have to use your crippled lenses with real aperture metering, only, on your film bodies,

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-17 Thread Arnold Stark
Cotty schrieb: No??? Why not? Well, in maual mode, the *ist D simply does not meter with any lens that is not set to A position. Why they chose tthe *ist D to behave like this, only the Pentax engineers would be able to explain. Arnold

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Cotty schrieb: No??? Why not? Well, in maual mode, the *ist D simply does not meter with any lens that is not set to A position. Why they chose tthe *ist D to behave like this, only the Pentax engineers would be able to explain. Arnold You're kidding.

Re: My own little *ist D review

2003-09-17 Thread whickersworld
Cotty wrote: You're kidding. dawning realisation Now I see why folk are upset. Now Pentax users know *exactly* how Nikon users felt when the F80 (N80) was introduced, with its deliberately designed inability to meter with pre-autofocus Nikkors. That wasn't the reason why I abandoned Nikon for

*ist D review, part I

2003-09-15 Thread Bojidar_Dimitrov
... reachable from the front page of the KMP. The rest should be on-line on Tue or Wed at the latest... Cheers, Boz

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