Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Graywolf"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
A cloth bonnet? Every little girl has a cloth bonnet. A real hat is
made of felt and has a wide brim that you can wear down low hiding one
eye and looking dangerous. Like this...
http://meanderings.
- Original Message -
From: "Mishka"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
there used to be a p67 brotherhood hat somewhere... long while ago.
It still exists, and grows slowly.
We just took in a new Brother.
Brother William
blement!
>
> graywolf
> http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
> ---
>
>
> William Robb wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Mishka"
> > Subject: Re
- Original Message -
From: "Graywolf"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
A cloth bonnet? Every little girl has a cloth bonnet. A real hat is made of
felt and has a wide brim that you can wear down low hiding one eye and
looking dangerous. Like thi
A cloth bonnet? Every little girl has a cloth bonnet. A real hat is made of
felt and has a wide brim that you can wear down low hiding one eye and looking
dangerous. Like this...
http://meanderings.graywolfphoto.com/_images/New-Me.jpg
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expe
- Original Message -
From: "Graywolf"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Nope, divide by 4. Those postage stamp size negative users have to throw
away a 1/4 inch of their negative to print on standard size paper, and
those digi-weenies don't even have a negative to throw
ge ----- From: "Mishka"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
hate to disappoint you, but no.
just a 4x5. but a very, really, awfully nice one -- a pacemaker speed
graphic.
just ran a few test shots with its stock 127 (eh... 35? i can't see my
new math
calculator at the moment) ektar and
ess i am a sucker to small cameras with tiny negs (... compared to 11x14 or
even 5x7)
best,
mishka
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:45:58 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Mishka"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
after my recent enablement, 55m
A can of spray paint will only cost a few bucks.
Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mar 31, 2005 7:59 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses Limited's was: (Future of DA lenses)
sometimes elsewhere too, although
This one time, at band camp, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.
>
> I think they definitely have shown interest. I expect a better K-mount
> DSLR to be announced by the end of this year and be available early next
> year. And a better one after that. And so on.
And this full size sensor w
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
I've simplify by converting all my lens' focal lengths into common
units. 50mm is .002845 Furlongs.
Now you know.
That does make it easier..
William Robb
Mark Roberts wrote:
Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am also wondering how 31LTD stacks up to 35 or 28 AL FA?
I guess, the build is a lot better. But optically?
Well I have the 28 and Jens is looking into a possible 31 Ltd coming up
for sale for me so I may find out in the future.
I'll be gettin
you meant, 42?
and thanks for all fish,
mishka
On Mar 31, 2005 10:29 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Your 127 is really a 43!!!
>
> I've simplify by converting all my lens' focal lengths into common
> units. 50mm is .002845 Furlo
Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am also wondering how 31LTD stacks up to 35 or 28 AL FA?
> I guess, the build is a lot better. But optically?
Well I have the 28 and Jens is looking into a possible 31 Ltd coming up
for sale for me so I may find out in the future.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography
"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Your 127 is really a 43!!!
I've simplify by converting all my lens' focal lengths into common
units. 50mm is .002845 Furlongs.
Now you know.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
waiting...
best,
mishka
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:47:54 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mishka"
> Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses Limited's was: (Future of DA lenses)
>
> >I am also wondering ho
- Original Message -
From: "Mishka"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
hate to disappoint you, but no.
just a 4x5. but a very, really, awfully nice one -- a pacemaker speed
graphic.
just ran a few test shots with its stock 127 (eh... 35? i can't see my new
math
calculato
- Original Message -
From: "Mishka"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses Limited's was: (Future of DA lenses)
I am also wondering how 31LTD stacks up to 35 or 28 AL FA?
I guess, the build is a lot better. But optically?
I'll tell you after my 35 arrives.
William Robb
d.
i guess i am a sucker to small cameras with tiny negs (... compared to 11x14 or
even 5x7)
best,
mishka
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:45:58 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mishka"
> Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
I am also wondering how 31LTD stacks up to 35 or 28 AL FA?
I guess, the build is a lot better. But optically?
Best,
Mishka
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:51:16 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mishka"
> Subject: Re: F
Drool ;-))
It could make me want to buy an istD and move to autofocus.
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: William Robb
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7502572226
> i am wondering if black color is worth $300 over the new price?
> > If you have to ask, then probably no.
- Original Message -
From: "Mishka"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses Limited's was: (Future of DA lenses)
sometimes elsewhere too, although at a hefty premium:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7502572226&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&a
- Original Message -
From: "Mishka"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
after my recent enablement, 55mm became 15mm and 165mm -- 50mm.
new math rulez!
You got a 5x7?
I alwasy thought that was the ideal view camera format if you were willing
to use an enlarger.
Otherwise, I am
after my recent enablement, 55mm became 15mm and 165mm -- 50mm.
new math rulez!
best,
mishka
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:19:25 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
sometimes elsewhere too, although at a hefty premium:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7502572226&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
i am wondering if black color is worth $300 over the new price?
best,
mishka
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:23:49 -0500, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECT
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Well, now you have a 6x7, so you're going to learn to think FOV instead of
focal lengths. From this day forward, a 55mm lens is wide, and that 165
you bought is a short portrait lens.
Nah, a 5
dropping in price at that size. if anything, i expect sensors in that
size range to go up in price.
Herb...
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Not trying to belabor the issue. Just
Oh, you mean you have not heard about the magical focal-length multiplier built
into digital cameras? Ask, Bill Robb, he will tell you about it. HAR, HAr, Har,
har, ...
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
Godfrey DiGiorgi wro
No offense taken... glad you didn't really think I was *that* stupid.
I just found Paul was being blocked, so I never got his original post.
Tom C.
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Future of DA lense
lol ... the comment *was* tongue in cheek.
I sold off all my 24x36mm film SLRs and interchangeable lens RFs
several years ago, so I think in focal lengths for the 16x24mm format
when I'm working with the DS or 10D. 16mm or less is an ultrawide, 24
is a wide, 35mm is a normal, 50mm is a portrait
ame angle of view one would expect when that focal
> length lens was used on a 35mm body as originally intended.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
> >From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>
ge presented to the capture medium at the
focal plane has the same angle of view one would expect when that focal
length lens was used on a 35mm body as originally intended.
Tom C.
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdm
dslr. But I was under the impression that all the
DA
> > > > > > lenses will have a limited circle. Has Pentax announced otherwise?
John
-- Original Message ---
From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:38:30 +0
> fra: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Possibly, but I don't think so.
>
> "The new lenses features an image circle accommodating the image size (36mm
> by 24mm) of 35mm-format SLR *film* cameras. As a result, they produces high-
> quality images with edge-to-edge sharpness and free
ody. That's a big market if
> they manage to supply owners of film and digital.
>
> John
>
>
> -- Original Message ---
> Wrom: GAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVW
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Sent: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:52:31 +0800
> Subject: Re
"Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I understand. I'll be using this lens today (silver). It really is very
>nice. Focusing is quite fast with this 1.9 aperture - even in very dark
>conditions. However, I would prefer a black one :-)
Well keep me posted: Let me know how much he wants for it.
ey manage to supply owners of film and digital.
John
-- Original Message ---
From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:52:31 +0800
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
> Possibly, but I don't think so.
>
> Heres
ts with film cameras.
>
> John Whittingham
>
> Technician
>
> -- Original Message ---
> Wrom: JYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZ
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Sent: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:37:52 +0800
> Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
>
> >
p supplied enthusiasts with film cameras.
John Whittingham
Technician
-- Original Message ---
From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:37:52 +0800
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
> Paul
>
> The 16-45 & 14mm are DA l
Hang on...
I went back and had a better look at the photo & if the production
models are he same they seem to have an aperture ring.
Cool.
Dave S
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:37:52 +0800, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul
>
> The 16-45 & 14mm are DA lenses, the newer D-FA lenses have a
Paul
The 16-45 & 14mm are DA lenses, the newer D-FA lenses have an image
circle that covers 35mm.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0408/04080801pentax_lenses.asp
Aside from the fact that they have no aperture ring they could be used
on older film bodies.
Dave S
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:14:48 -05
AIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
For Canon users, obviously around $8K. For Pentax users, who knows? I
just know what I would be willing to pay.
OTOH, I could just say Pentax take a hike, (except that I just got the 67
about
On Mar 30, 2005, at 11:17 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
Not for anyone who just wants a single body to use all their very
capable 35mm
glass. I would be interested to see how they fare with a 10 or 12mm DA
prime
given their results with the 14mm (which I don't particularly like).
I'm using all my very
On Mar 30, 2005, at 11:17 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
But the new lenses are full frame.
Is this true? The first two were not. If the next round of DA lenses
does accommodate full frame, then I would agree that we can expect to
see an FF 35mm dslr. But I was under the impression that all the DA
len
pect sensors in that
size range to go up in price.
Herb...
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Not trying to belabor the issue. Just trying to say I believe there
is a market
Cotty wrote:
On 30/3/05, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:
What's an FF, please?
Full Fart.
No it ain't, Cot!
I must have had my head under my wing yesteday...
Thanks to "...FF DSLR" in Herb's sentence, it became clear.
Oh well, if that's the worst I do this week!
keith
Cheers,
Cott
> fra: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On 30/3/05, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >What's an FF, please?
>
> Full Fart.
I didn't know that you knew Norwegian...
On 30/3/05, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:
>What's an FF, please?
Full Fart.
Cheers,
Cotty
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On 30 Mar 2005 at 23:21, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> What is a "rated focal length"?
>
> How do you use a lens at anything other than its actual focal length?
> Whether projecting onto a 16x24mm format or a 24x36mm format, a lens'
> focal length does not change.
I assume that Tom's comment meant
On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:36 PM, Tom C wrote:
Because aside from the ability to use our existing lenses, we could
all use them at their rated focal lengths, keeping backwards
compatibility as one of Pentax's strong suits?
What is a "rated focal length"?
How do you use a lens at anything other than it
Quoting Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Why do you think sensors will go up in price?
>
An earthquake in Asia will drop production capacity by three quarters?
This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au
Mark Roberts wrote:
Of course not. They want to wait until everyone has stocked up on
small-image-circle DA lenses before they come out with a full-frame
camera
That's what I think too. Let's not pretend there's not a vast right-wing
conspiracy going on here. :)
Tom C.
But silver is more Buck Rogers-like.
Tom C.
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: RE: Future of DA lenses Limited's was: (Future of DA lenses)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:34:44 +0200
I understand. I'll be using this lens to
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Sendt: 30. marts 2005 22:32
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Future of DA lenses Limited's was: (Future of DA lenses)
"Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 30 Mar 2005 at 21:11, Tom C wrote:
> Why do you think sensors will go up in price?
I would expect them to go down gradually as fabs employ improved technologies
designed to reduce contaminants and utilize larger wafers increasing yield per
unit area of silicon. Then again if the market deman
On 31 Mar 2005 at 2:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You ton't get a well spec'd FF, but you will get a well spec'd APS. As sensor
> technology evolves, the resolution and noise levels of the APS sensors will
> improve significantly. I don't see any real downside.
Quantum physics have played a nast
nting the 67 and two lenses.
Why do you think sensors will go up in price?
Tom C.
From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:04:57 -0500
at what price? i think a FF DSLR will be worse than t
C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Not trying to belabor the issue. Just trying to say I believe there is a
market for such, probably with all 35mm SLR mfr's because of the abundance
of legacy lenses.
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2005 at 18:36, Tom C wrote:
>
>> Given that, I'd be willing to pay around 2X - 3X the price I paid for the
>> *ist D. So assuming it was 12MP, I'd like to see a price between $3000 -
>> $3500. If it was 18MP +/- 2MP then I'd be willing to pa
If yuo cna raed tihs yuo aer smterar tahn I tohuhgt.
Tom C.
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:26:37 -0600
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Fu
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
I got a bunch of gibberish mixed in with my post when received. Sending
agin to see if it clears up.
Didn't help, you just aren't being coherent..
HAR!!
WW
Ken told us:
1. It is a brand new design (as opposed to 50mm version which basically
purged flare spots (kind of ghost) caused by CCD. Otherwise no changes
for 50mm), taking into consideration the future reduction of the barrel
size. FREE design contributed to the significant reduction of the si
FF: Full Frame
Dave S
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:21:13 -0800, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Rob Studdert wrote:
>
> > On 31 Mar 2005 at 2:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Sounds like you want a D645. You're not going to see anything but APS in a
> >>more
> >>compact camer
yosteaks?
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:53:18 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just hate it when people notice my spelling misteaks.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
> >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >To
35mm SLR mfr's because of the abundance
of legacy lenses.
Timewise, I'm not expecting such soon (or even at all) from Pentax. Just
expressing my wishes.
Tom C.
From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
You ton't get a well spec'd FF, but you will get a well spec'd APS. As sensor
technology evolves, the resolution and noise levels of the APS sensors will
improve significantly. I don't see any real downside. With 12mm glass, the wide
end will be covered. I wouldn't be suprised to see a 10 or 12m
Rob Studdert wrote:
On 31 Mar 2005 at 2:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like you want a D645. You're not going to see anything but APS in a more
compact camera. That's pretty obvious and probably not a bad thing. Paul
This is the thinking that I really don't understand. I'd be willing to pay
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Ahh... Thought you'd never ask...
I'd want a FF sensor, general K mount compatibility, no loss of features
from the *ist D, with a minimum of double the MP o
On 30 Mar 2005 at 21:03, Herb Chong wrote:
> none of my detailed references show them. i assume it must be because they are
> privately held.
Good for them then, they don't have the tortuous weight of the investment
market bearing down on them to produce unreasonable returns.
Rob Studdert
HURS
On 31 Mar 2005 at 2:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sounds like you want a D645. You're not going to see anything but APS in a
> more
> compact camera. That's pretty obvious and probably not a bad thing. Paul
This is the thinking that I really don't understand. I'd be willing to pay up
to 5k for
none of my detailed references show them. i assume it must be because they
are privately held.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA len
t;
> I don't think that price point is too untenable, especially since I wouldn't
> expect to see something like that in the next 12 months.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
> >From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2005 at 18:36, Tom C wrote:
>
>> Given that, I'd be willing to pay around 2X - 3X the price I paid for the
>> *ist D. So assuming it was 12MP, I'd like to see a price between $3000 -
>> $3500. If it was 18MP +/- 2MP then I'd be willing to pa
The 14mm f/2.8 DA is like this too, which bodes well for the future lens
line-up.
Nick
-Original Message-
From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 30/03/05 15:13:20
> Unfortunately, we cannot have it in both ways.
Not true :-) There are some AF lenses, which do
Alin Flaider wrote:
Ken,
As always I appreciate your glimpses over the "inside". What I find
most interesting now is the hint to the build costs (point 2).
I suspect a major contribution to the cost was due to having to
maintain very low tolerances and this perhaps is associated with
ma
"Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'll get back to you later today. I'm meeting him in half an hour and will
>be back in a couple of hours. I'll let you know how much he wants. In
>Germany the current street price (new) is appr. 690 USD (559 Euro's) AFAIK.
>I'll let you know how much he is
I just hate it when people notice my spelling misteaks.
Tom C.
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:33:56 -0600
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: F
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
I just hate it when people diagree with me.
Would it me better if they triagreed with you?
How about if they pentagreed with you?
Perhaps you would prefer an octigreer?
William Robb
Maybe I've got that backwards anyway, the earlier of the two groups is
the one to which I was referring.
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Date: 3/30/2005 8:21:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
>
> That mus
That must have been the LEG. The LUG is a much more sedate place. I don't
recall the bickering being about the gear so much as amongst the members
and about other subjects.
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> >> Why do people on these marque-centric lists speak in such snide
I just hate it when people diagree with me.
Tom C.
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:48:42 -0800
On Mar 29, 2005, at 6:14 PM, Tom C wrote:
... Personally I per
On Mar 29, 2005, at 6:14 PM, Tom C wrote:
... Personally I perceived the *ist DS as a stupid move (as I did the
MZ-S and the non-digital *ist), a desperate attempt to compete with
the bigger 2, while apparently ignoring the desires of their customers
desiring an upgrade path. I know basic econo
I have a 10D. I didn't buy a 20D as, for all it's advances, it didn't
impress me as being a step in the direction that *I* wanted. I bought a
Pentax *ist DS instead ... it moved in the direction of smaller,
lighter, sensibly priced, etc that was important to me.
Godfrey
On Mar 29, 2005, at 5:55
Why do people on these marque-centric lists speak in such snide and
negative terms about the manufacturer whose products they are
supposedly enjoying?
Is it all the lists?
Is this one better or worse?
All I can tell you is that the acrimonious bickering and
holier-than-thou BS on the Leica lists
On 3/30/05 9:49 AM, "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It does conjure thoughts of how they might cut corners on any new WA lenses
> for
> the soon to be arriving (LOL) 645D. I wonder if it will be profitable to
> continue production of the current 645 lens line or maybe they are thinkin
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Rob Studdert wrote:
> I do also find it intriguing that companies like Cosina can produce very high
> quality lenses (optically and mechanically) then sell them at reasonable
> prices
> and still profit.
Can't comment on "still profit", but there is one big difference:
targe
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Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 30. marts 2005 14:42
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Future of DA lenses Limited's was: (Future of DA lenses)
"Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL P
On 30 Mar 2005 at 8:32, KT Takeshita wrote:
> I do hope that the new DFA Macros are well built, not excessively like the
> current one. Metal barrel is nice, but I no longer mind the plastic barrel as
> long as it is solidly built.
It does conjure thoughts of how they might cut corners on any ne
KT Takeshita wrote on 30.03.05 15:32:
> Obviously, it is
> impossible to have a butter smooth MF feeling (oh, I miss my old M50/1.4)
> with the AF capability :-). Unfortunately, we cannot have it in both ways.
Not true :-) There are some AF lenses, which don't move focusing ring during
AF operati
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, KT Takeshita wrote:
> impossible to have a butter smooth MF feeling (oh, I miss my old M50/1.4)
> with the AF capability :-). Unfortunately, we cannot have it in both ways.
Sorry I am going on a tangent: have you tried it with the 1.7AF
Adapter? AF 85/2.8 with solid metal co
On 3/30/05 6:06 AM, "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As always I appreciate your glimpses over the "inside". What I find
> most interesting now is the hint to the build costs (point 2).
> I suspect a major contribution to the cost was due to having to
> maintain very low tolerances and
"Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>... the guy I wanted to borrow an FA 2.8/28-70mm didn't have one.
>But he has all three Limited (31mm,43mm and 77mm) and af FA0 2/24mm which he
>wants to sell.
>I wilal borrow the 24 and 31 for tomorrows shoot.
>Man, I wich I had that kind of money to spend
release no thing before it every one else has. Leica is about to go out of
business and become nothing but a name.
Herb
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From: "Village Idiot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Pl
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From: "Alin Flaider"
Subject: On production cost (was Re: Future of DA lenses)
Anyway, a friend
recently disassembled several FA consumer zooms and was horrified to
find out large tolerances by design, alignment through shimming as a
rule, high we
fford) the 2/24mm and perhaps the 77mm)
Jens Bladt
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Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 30. marts 2005 09:54
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: Future of DA lenses
>If you have confidence in
ver happen.
Herb
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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: Future of DA lenses
Quoting Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Pentax depends on a lot of people wanting something that they are selling
right now to stay in
Ken,
As always I appreciate your glimpses over the "inside". What I find
most interesting now is the hint to the build costs (point 2).
I suspect a major contribution to the cost was due to having to
maintain very low tolerances and this perhaps is associated with
manual assembly in t
lesser extent, Nikon.
Herb
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Future of DA lenses
I think I am seeing a changing Pentax since their foray into the DSLR
market. They consider themsel
I'm there with John. The *istD works great for everything I do. My
clients are more than happy with my photos, as are the reps I've worked
with. The faster, larger buffer is about the only thing that would help
me work better. I rarely shoot anything extremely wide, so full frame
is no big adva
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Sendt: 29. marts 2005 20:19
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Future of DA lenses
Hi,
> With Pentax in particular, I think many of us suffer from equipment
> inferiority complexes. We like our equipment, we like the results we get,
> but in the real world Pentax gets little re
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