Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread Brian Walters

> On 06 July 2018 at 15:25 Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> Damn. Hope you can fix that. Another reason why I will never use Lightroom.
> It’s photoshop and old fashioned file keeping and backup for this old
> fashioned guy.

Another old fashioned guy.  Zoner Photo Studio does fine as my image manager -
exporting to Photoshop for editing.


Cheers
Brian



> > On Jul 5, 2018, at 10:52 PM, Bill  wrote:
> > 
> > I opened Lightroom to find a file, but when I tried to open said file in
> > Photoshop, I discovered that the file did not exist outside of the Lightroom
> > catalogue.
> > Somehow, my Drobo managed to completely lose my entire image file directory.
> > That's over 30k files dating from 2006 to last week that just went poof.
> > It's the only directory that went walkabout, and it is well and truly gone,
> > as a deleted file finder wasn't able to turn anything up.
> > I am at a complete loss as to how something like this could happen.
> > 
> > Fortunately, I have a secondary storage location, I'm pretty sure I haven't
> > lost many images, but I would really like to know how (and why) this one
> > directory decided to disappear.
> > It looks like restoring things is going to take the better part of 24 hours.
> > 
> > bill
> >

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Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/7/18, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Damn. Hope you can fix that. Another reason why I will never use
>Lightroom. It's photoshop and old fashioned file keeping and backup for
>this old fashioned guy.

I have to say that I agree.

I have always organised all my images and video in simple Mac file hierarchy. 
Takes a few minutes to organise them and whatnot but I have an inherent 
distrust in proprietary systems. Of course, one could argue that the computer 
system is proprietary but files within folders and folders is about as simple 
as it gets? And all backed up of course.

I certainly don't trust the cloud. Ever since the debacle back in 2007 when 
Apple brought out the first iPhone. If you recall, there was an issue with 
Apple's iCloud (not called that back then, I forget what) whereby lots of 
users' contacts suddenly went missing of their phones for a few hours! Not 
pleasant when you're a business user with hundreds of contacts nd you suddenly 
need to call one of them...

Ever since then I have always backed up my phones and tablets locally to the 
computer, never through the cloud. Sure, the chances are slim it would ever 
happen again but that one occasion lost my trust.

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Re: smaller resolution vs native formats (Test Results)

2018-07-06 Thread Alan C

OK. Here they are:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/43181328112/

K5 shown - scroll for K110D  Both 6Mp 3star JPEG's.

Both taken with the HD 55 - 300mm @ 300mm   f8   AV  Range of subject 
about 40m. Mininimal post processing, images uncropped, not sharpened


If you look at the EXIF you will see that the resolution of the K110D 
image is 72dpi whereas the K5 image is 300dpi.


The original K110D file is 4.64Mp & the K5  5.72Mp

Visually I can't see any difference. Both original files start to become 
pixellated at about 150% zoom.


I think we need some expert comment here.

Alan C

BTW, don't you think that old K110D still does a good job?


On 06-Jul-18 06:51 AM, Alan C wrote:
I remember setting my K7 to 6Mp to compare with my K110D (max 6.1Mp). 
I could see no difference but the K7 files were considerably larger 
than the K110D files. I'll repeat the exercise later today with the 
K110D & the K5 (sold the K7) & post the images & stats.


Alan C


On 05-Jul-18 11:22 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

are the photos from a 16Mp DSLR set to the 6 Mp setting sharper
than a 6 Mp DSLR running at full resolution? My hunch is they would 
be but

has anyone ever tried this or a similar comparison?




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Re: massive collection for sale

2018-07-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. All those camera bodies are mostly worth pennies. 
Flash units, etc ... eh, depends on what you want/need/etc

So let's say there are 800 lenses across all brands ... that's about $80 per 
lens at $65000 for the lot, of which some number might be useful to you 
(because you have the cameras they work on) but most will likely not be. 

It's a questionable deal unless you're looking to stock a used camera shop with 
inventory. 

G

> Gonz Mon, 02 Jul 2018 12:49:11 -0700 wrote:
> 
> I dunno, somehow I thought of a Canuk named Bill when I read this...
> 
> 
> 99 Pentax MF lenses... I wonder which they are...
> 
> 
> https://petapixel.com/2018/07/02/these-1750-film-cameras-and-lenses-can-be-yours-for-65000/

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Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread Larry Colen




Steve Cottrell wrote on 7/6/18 2:18 AM:

On 6/7/18, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:


Damn. Hope you can fix that. Another reason why I will never use
Lightroom. It's photoshop and old fashioned file keeping and backup for
this old fashioned guy.


I have to say that I agree.

I have always organised all my images and video in simple Mac file hierarchy. 
Takes a few minutes to organise them and whatnot but I have an inherent 
distrust in proprietary systems. Of course, one could argue that the computer 
system is proprietary but files within folders and folders is about as simple 
as it gets? And all backed up of course.



I use lightroom, but have my files stored in a logical directory system 
that makes them easy to find without lightroom, and will make it easy to 
switch to another editor.



I certainly don't trust the cloud. Ever since the debacle back in 2007 when 
Apple brought out the first iPhone. If you recall, there was an issue with 
Apple's iCloud (not called that back then, I forget what) whereby lots of 
users' contacts suddenly went missing of their phones for a few hours! Not 
pleasant when you're a business user with hundreds of contacts nd you suddenly 
need to call one of them...


The cloud can be a helpful supplemental backup.



Ever since then I have always backed up my phones and tablets locally to the 
computer, never through the cloud. Sure, the chances are slim it would ever 
happen again but that one occasion lost my trust.



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Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I would speculate that it has happened because it was one of the most 
frequently used directories on the disk.

With that, when the glitch happened, something was writing to the directory,
and hence the directory was corrupted.

I assume all your image files were in subdirectories, and not in a single 
directory. Otherwise, I'd be guessing that Drobo might have some 
problem with a directory containing too many files. (32768=2^15, so, with 
30k+ of files that you'd have in that, there could be some

16-bit-limit on the directory entries number)

Sorry to hear about your trouble and good luck with the restoring!
Hope it will go smoothly.

Igor



Bill Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:09:02 -0700 wrote:

On 7/6/2018 6:41 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:


Damn. Hope you can fix that. Another reason why I will never use 
Lightroom.
It’s photoshop and old fashioned file keeping and backup for this 
old fashioned

guy.


What Bill is describing is a Drobo problem, not a Lightroom problem.


Yup, and why it happened to that one directory and not the others on the 
device is probably forever going to remain one of life's little mysteries.



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Re: Pentax k-70 - damn! now I'm in trouble!

2018-07-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
In my experience, right angle finders are rarely much use other than for doing 
flat-art copy work on a copy stand or low angle work with a long lens on a low 
tripod. You have to get your eye too close and the angle just right for them to 
work properly, which doesn't help much when you're shooting tabletop product 
work. 

An articulated LCD with Live View and (preferably) magnification assist makes 
tabletop work a delight. Similarly, WiFi with a live view remote controlling 
app onto a modest sized tablet display makes tabletop work, low or high angle 
shooting, etc, very very easy. 

G

> On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:48 AM, Jostein  wrote:
> 
> Is a right-angle viewfinder a viable option?
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagull-1X-3-3x-Right-Angle-Viewfinder-Canon-Nikon-Olympus-Pentax-Camera-/261393469750
> 
> Jostein
> 
> Den 05.07.2018 23:41, skrev ann sanfedele:
>> It has me at the fold out screen allthe other stuff is nice too, but 
>> that fold out screen is something I truly need in my studio for product 
>> shooting without wrecking my already broken back.
>> I need to figure out a way ot finance this... will I get anything on a trade 
>> in with my k-5 body?
>> I looks like it is a bit lighter than the K-5 too...   and I see there are 
>> refurbished bodies out there.
>> and I thought the K-5 would last me forever...
>> ann
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Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread Bill

On 7/6/2018 6:41 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:


Damn. Hope you can fix that. Another reason why I will never use Lightroom. 
It’s photoshop and old fashioned file keeping and backup for this old fashioned 
guy.


What Bill is describing is a Drobo problem, not a Lightroom problem.
  



Yup, and why it happened to that one directory and not the others on the 
device is probably forever going to remain one of life's little mysteries.


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massive collection for sale

2018-07-06 Thread Igor PDML-StR



That's an interesting "collection".

Though, I don't know why you were thinking about our friend Bill. ;-)
I would have understood if you had mentioned Jim King (who, IRC, used to 
be on PDML at some point).


https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2000589


Cheers,

Igor


Gonz Mon, 02 Jul 2018 12:49:11 -0700 wrote:

I dunno, somehow I thought of a Canuk named Bill when I read this...


99 Pentax MF lenses... I wonder which they are...


https://petapixel.com/2018/07/02/these-1750-film-cameras-and-lenses-can-be-yours-for-65000/

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Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread Bill

On 7/6/2018 10:24 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I would speculate that it has happened because it was one of the most 
frequently used directories on the disk.
With that, when the glitch happened, something was writing to the 
directory,

and hence the directory was corrupted.


It's possible I shut my computer off during a write, and we have had 
several power cuts in the past few days. Damn.


I assume all your image files were in subdirectories, and not in a 
single directory. Otherwise, I'd be guessing that Drobo might have some 
problem with a directory containing too many files. (32768=2^15, so, 
with 30k+ of files that you'd have in that, there could be some

16-bit-limit on the directory entries number)


Yeah, everything is in sub directories. I'm betting I managed to do this 
to myself.
Fortunately, my old Drobo fired right up, and it gives me everything 
until I retired it in late 2015, and I'm good from early 2016 on my 
working drive. I might have lost a few files between late 2015 and early 
2016, but I don't recall having shot anything of great social or 
political importance during that time.
The old Drobo is an origian USB, and I am copying nearly a terabyte of 
data from it to my newer machine. This looks like it will be going most 
of the weekend.


Sorry to hear about your trouble and good luck with the restoring!
Hope it will go smoothly.


It seems to be going good so far. Slowly, but goodly.

Thanks

bill

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Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread David J Brooks
That darn Brad Drobo

Dave
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Re: Pentax k-70 - damn! now I'm in trouble!

2018-07-06 Thread Jostein

Is a right-angle viewfinder a viable option?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagull-1X-3-3x-Right-Angle-Viewfinder-Canon-Nikon-Olympus-Pentax-Camera-/261393469750

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Den 05.07.2018 23:41, skrev ann sanfedele:
It has me at the fold out screen allthe other stuff is nice too, but 
that fold out screen is something I truly need in my studio for product 
shooting without wrecking my already broken back.


I need to figure out a way ot finance this... will I get anything on a 
trade in with my k-5 body?


I looks like it is a bit lighter than the K-5 too...   and I see there 
are refurbished bodies out there.


and I thought the K-5 would last me forever...

ann






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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

2018-07-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Honestly  can't remember the name of the facility or the exact town it 
was in.


All I remember is that it was close enough to the convention center 
where G. H. W. Bush and W. J. Clinton gave campaign speeches, pretty 
much back to back that I had to take two Fridays off to avoid being 
sealed in by both the Secret Service, and horrible traffic.  They 
needless to say both helicoptered in...


I was working through Anderson Consulting at the time, who changed their 
name to Accenture, to protect the guilty, mainly themselves, being 
partly privy to the inside politics between Arthur Andersen and AC was 
interesting and a very long sometimes amusing story.  I was working on 
the SSART (sp? as I said it's been many years), project.  A project 
who's entire premise was that the AC tech team was smarter than anyone 
else, something that's been proven wrong over and over again.   I don't 
think AT ever took over complete maintenance of that system, because 
of it's convoluted design.



On 7/6/2018 12:33 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I am in Somerset County, and I did a lot of work for the old AT in the
1970s and 1980s.  They were my largest single client for years.  Which AT
facility were you working with?  I did a lot of work on the "Long Lines"
facility in Bedminster, and I did the zoning applications for the office
complex off 202/206 in Bridgewater.  Mostly I worked with the facility
managers at Mount Airy Road.  I also represented the company in constuction
litigation.

As far as corruption goes, Sen Menendez, who was prosecuted for corruption
by the Justice Dept under Obama, is running for re-election, and will
undoubtedly win.  It seems NJ alway has one honest Senator and one Crook:
Case/Williams, Bradley /Torricelli, and now Booker/Menedez.

Yes, Somerset, Hunterdon and Morris counties are very nice, contrary to the
general image of New Jersey.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 6:52 PM, P. J. Alling 
wrote:


I lived in Somerset County for almost a year working on a project for the
"old" AT  There were a lot of members of the team who were commuting
from NY City.  They were amazed at how nice the area was and how
"inexpensive" the rents were for what you got.  None of them moved there
however.  No accounting for taste.  Connecticut was less expensive and just
as nice, and at the time our Government was a bit more honest.  I haven't
kept up on NJ politics, but I think I can safely say the Connecticut is now
more corrupt than NJ was then.



On 7/5/2018 6:31 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Thanks, PJ.  The name of the producer may not be familiar to everyone
here.  New Yawkers look down on us hicks from "Joisy" as they call it .
If
you tell a New Yorker you live in Jersey they don't ask what town, but
"What Exit," implying that New Jersey is just the Turnpike and the
Parkway.  We try to keep the nicer sections of NJ secret from New Yorkers,
for fear they will all move here.  


Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:34 AM, P. J. Alling 
can...



On 7/4/2018 9:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines,

especially
Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New
Jersey
at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have
just
got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/
4/jersey-wine

K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
Comments are always appreciated.

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Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

>Damn. Hope you can fix that. Another reason why I will never use Lightroom. 
>It’s photoshop and old fashioned file keeping and backup for this old 
>fashioned guy.

What Bill is describing is a Drobo problem, not a Lightroom problem.
 
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Re: Pentax k-70 - damn! now I'm in trouble!

2018-07-06 Thread ann sanfedele

actually, no... though thanks for the thought.
I had one years ago... I found it a bit of a PITA..   The flipout with 
the live viewworked for me with the Canon not just for the studio stuff 
but outside too..


I just have to figure out how to sell the K5 but not deliver it until I 
get the K-70 and I think this will still not be possible until December.

something to look forward to :-)

ann



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Is a right-angle viewfinder a viable option?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagull-1X-3-3x-Right-Angle-Viewfinder-Canon-Nikon-Olympus-Pentax-Camera-/261393469750 



Jostein

Den 05.07.2018 23:41, skrev ann sanfedele:
It has me at the fold out screen allthe other stuff is nice too, 
but that fold out screen is something I truly need in my studio for 
product shooting without wrecking my already broken back.


I need to figure out a way ot finance this... will I get anything on 
a trade in with my k-5 body?


I looks like it is a bit lighter than the K-5 too...   and I see 
there are refurbished bodies out there.


and I thought the K-5 would last me forever...

ann








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Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread P. J. Alling

He always knew how to push Bill's buttons...


On 7/6/2018 9:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

That darn Brad Drobo

Dave

What Bill is describing is a Drobo problem, not a Lightroom problem.

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2018-07-06 Thread collinb
1. K300/4. Ex. Condition. Modest external use, perfect glass. A couple of
pieces of dust inside, but no fungus, haze, separation, cleaning marks.
Includes two caps & front filter.
$280

2. Tamron 70-210/3.8. That classic zoom. Includes TWO Adaptall-2 PKA
adapters, just to clear them out of my house.
$50

ORO, of course. And PayPal.

$10 US shipping (one or both). Don't worry if it's more -- I'll cover that.


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Re: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread ann sanfedele

har!
ann

On 7/6/2018 9:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

That darn Brad Drobo

Dave

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Re: smaller resolution vs native formats

2018-07-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Some cameras, might use Pixel binning which combines all the information 
in four adjacent pixels to produce one,  or they can simply drop enough 
pixels using only the color information to get to 6mp.    Since 16mp 
doesn't come that close to being 4x 6mp, (I'd have to think about the 
math and  I'm feeling extremely lazy right now so I'll go with that), 
there's going to be some resizing and manipulation either way.



On 7/6/2018 12:44 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

some 16mp cameras have a 6mp shooting mode, I assume its downsizing.




On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 00:39:08 -0400, John Sessoms 
 wrote:



I'm not sure I understand what you're asking for.

Do you mean 16Mp images downsized to 6Mp? Or do you mean there's a 
16Mp camera with a 6Mp crop mode?


Or something else?

Downsized images might appear sharper depending on the algorithm used 
to downsize them.


On 7/5/2018 17:22, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

are the photos from a 16Mp DSLR set to the 6 Mp setting sharper
than a 6 Mp DSLR running at full resolution? My hunch is they would 
be but

has anyone ever tried this or a similar comparison?








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Re: PESO: Crawler

2018-07-06 Thread Alan C

Indeed they are! Striking image. Have any been transferred yet?

Alan C


On 07-Jul-18 04:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

My little babies are growing rapidly:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/6/crawler

K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8

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PESO: Crawler

2018-07-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My little babies are growing rapidly:

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Re: Upgrade from K5 to KP???

2018-07-06 Thread Zos Xavius
Oh yeah. SR works in movie mode on the K-5 too. That alone makes up
for the lack of manual mode IMO. For the most part you can get away
with autoexposure and exposure locking when appropriate. The files are
huge and it only records for 5 minutes, but 80mbs is much better than
the 18 or so the K-3 is putting out..
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 7:17 PM Zos Xavius  wrote:
>
> My K-5 IIs is still getting regular constant use and to be honest I
> prefer its IQ over the K-3 somewhat except in the best light. At night
> that camera is a handheld beast though I will concede that the SR is a
> little better on the K-3. Still I can get down to 1/6th or more pretty
> easily depending on focal length. I've pretty much settled on just
> buying another one when it finally dies. It is a very good camera even
> now.
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM John Francis  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 03:33:27PM -0400, Rick Womer wrote:
> > > I'm hoping to keep using my K-5 until the successor to the K-3ii is
> > > out and de-bugged.
> > >
> > > Rick
> >
> > That's about where I am, too.
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Blast from the Past: PDML @ GFM 2007

2018-07-06 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d701204.jpg
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Re: PESO: Crawler

2018-07-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent! 

Paul

> On Jul 6, 2018, at 10:16 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> My little babies are growing rapidly:
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/6/crawler
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Re: Upgrade from K5 to KP???

2018-07-06 Thread Zos Xavius
My K-5 IIs is still getting regular constant use and to be honest I
prefer its IQ over the K-3 somewhat except in the best light. At night
that camera is a handheld beast though I will concede that the SR is a
little better on the K-3. Still I can get down to 1/6th or more pretty
easily depending on focal length. I've pretty much settled on just
buying another one when it finally dies. It is a very good camera even
now.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM John Francis  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 03:33:27PM -0400, Rick Womer wrote:
> > I'm hoping to keep using my K-5 until the successor to the K-3ii is
> > out and de-bugged.
> >
> > Rick
>
> That's about where I am, too.
>
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Re: Pentax k-70 - damn! now I'm in trouble!

2018-07-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I’m in.

Paul

> On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:11 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> If other folks are interested, I'd be happy to chip in a few bucks on a help 
> a pdml member in a pinch loan fund. Use the money to buy a k70, sell the k5 
> and the money is ready the next time someone is in a tight spot
> 
>> On July 6, 2018 3:01:29 PM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> I think Jostein suggested this for me because of the price , as oppsed 
>> to the new camera --
>> but I WILL find a way... maybe not today...
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 7/6/2018 12:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>> In my experience, right angle finders are rarely much use other than
>> for doing flat-art copy work on a copy stand or low angle work with a
>> long lens on a low tripod. You have to get your eye too close and the
>> angle just right for them to work properly, which doesn't help much
>> when you're shooting tabletop product work.
>>> 
>>> An articulated LCD with Live View and (preferably) magnification
>> assist makes tabletop work a delight. Similarly, WiFi with a live view
>> remote controlling app onto a modest sized tablet display makes
>> tabletop work, low or high angle shooting, etc, very very easy.
>>> 
>>> G
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:48 AM, Jostein  wrote:
 
 Is a right-angle viewfinder a viable option?
 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagull-1X-3-3x-Right-Angle-Viewfinder-Canon-Nikon-Olympus-Pentax-Camera-/261393469750
 
 Jostein
 
 Den 05.07.2018 23:41, skrev ann sanfedele:
> It has me at the fold out screen allthe other stuff is nice
>> too, but that fold out screen is something I truly need in my studio
>> for product shooting without wrecking my already broken back.
> I need to figure out a way ot finance this... will I get anything
>> on a trade in with my k-5 body?
> I looks like it is a bit lighter than the K-5 too...   and I see
>> there are refurbished bodies out there.
> and I thought the K-5 would last me forever...
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Re: Pentax k-70 - damn! now I'm in trouble!

2018-07-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I wouldn't promise Larry a kidney with even the limited knowledge I have 
of his lifestyle.  Sorry, Larry.


I was going to suggest looking at KEH they had a Like New K70 listed it 
seems like a couple of days ago, but unfortunately it seems to be gone now.



On 7/6/2018 8:42 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Larry - I do want to get the camera, but I dont NEED it right now - 
(unless the K-5 goes south) I'd rather not be in the middle of agroup 
effort

on my behalf.. a certain kind of pressure I can't deal with.

But If I ever should need a kidney... :-)

ann

On 7/6/2018 7:11 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
If other folks are interested, I'd be happy to chip in a few bucks on 
a help a pdml member in a pinch loan fund. Use the money to buy a 
k70, sell the k5 and the money is ready the next time someone is in a 
tight spot


On July 6, 2018 3:01:29 PM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I think Jostein suggested this for me because of the price , as oppsed
to the new camera --
but I WILL find a way... maybe not today...

ann

On 7/6/2018 12:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

In my experience, right angle finders are rarely much use other than

for doing flat-art copy work on a copy stand or low angle work with a
long lens on a low tripod. You have to get your eye too close and the
angle just right for them to work properly, which doesn't help much
when you're shooting tabletop product work.

An articulated LCD with Live View and (preferably) magnification

assist makes tabletop work a delight. Similarly, WiFi with a live view
remote controlling app onto a modest sized tablet display makes
tabletop work, low or high angle shooting, etc, very very easy.

G


On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:48 AM, Jostein  wrote:

Is a right-angle viewfinder a viable option?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagull-1X-3-3x-Right-Angle-Viewfinder-Canon-Nikon-Olympus-Pentax-Camera-/261393469750 


Jostein

Den 05.07.2018 23:41, skrev ann sanfedele:

It has me at the fold out screen allthe other stuff is nice

too, but that fold out screen is something I truly need in my studio
for product shooting without wrecking my already broken back.

I need to figure out a way ot finance this... will I get anything

on a trade in with my k-5 body?

I looks like it is a bit lighter than the K-5 too...   and I see

there are refurbished bodies out there.

and I thought the K-5 would last me forever...
ann

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Re: Upgrade from K5 to KP???

2018-07-06 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 03:33:27PM -0400, Rick Womer wrote:
> I'm hoping to keep using my K-5 until the successor to the K-3ii is
> out and de-bugged.
> 
> Rick

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Re: Pentax k-70 - damn! now I'm in trouble!

2018-07-06 Thread ann sanfedele
I think Jostein suggested this for me because of the price , as oppsed 
to the new camera --

but I WILL find a way... maybe not today...

ann

On 7/6/2018 12:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

In my experience, right angle finders are rarely much use other than for doing 
flat-art copy work on a copy stand or low angle work with a long lens on a low 
tripod. You have to get your eye too close and the angle just right for them to 
work properly, which doesn't help much when you're shooting tabletop product 
work.

An articulated LCD with Live View and (preferably) magnification assist makes 
tabletop work a delight. Similarly, WiFi with a live view remote controlling 
app onto a modest sized tablet display makes tabletop work, low or high angle 
shooting, etc, very very easy.

G


On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:48 AM, Jostein  wrote:

Is a right-angle viewfinder a viable option?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagull-1X-3-3x-Right-Angle-Viewfinder-Canon-Nikon-Olympus-Pentax-Camera-/261393469750

Jostein

Den 05.07.2018 23:41, skrev ann sanfedele:

It has me at the fold out screen allthe other stuff is nice too, but that 
fold out screen is something I truly need in my studio for product shooting 
without wrecking my already broken back.
I need to figure out a way ot finance this... will I get anything on a trade in 
with my k-5 body?
I looks like it is a bit lighter than the K-5 too...   and I see there are 
refurbished bodies out there.
and I thought the K-5 would last me forever...
ann

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Re: Pentax k-70 - damn! now I'm in trouble!

2018-07-06 Thread ann sanfedele
Larry - I do want to get the camera, but I dont NEED it right now - 
(unless the K-5 goes south) I'd rather not be in the middle of agroup effort

on my behalf.. a certain kind of pressure I can't deal with.

But If I ever should need a kidney... :-)

ann

On 7/6/2018 7:11 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

If other folks are interested, I'd be happy to chip in a few bucks on a help a 
pdml member in a pinch loan fund. Use the money to buy a k70, sell the k5 and 
the money is ready the next time someone is in a tight spot

On July 6, 2018 3:01:29 PM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I think Jostein suggested this for me because of the price , as oppsed
to the new camera --
but I WILL find a way... maybe not today...

ann

On 7/6/2018 12:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

In my experience, right angle finders are rarely much use other than

for doing flat-art copy work on a copy stand or low angle work with a
long lens on a low tripod. You have to get your eye too close and the
angle just right for them to work properly, which doesn't help much
when you're shooting tabletop product work.

An articulated LCD with Live View and (preferably) magnification

assist makes tabletop work a delight. Similarly, WiFi with a live view
remote controlling app onto a modest sized tablet display makes
tabletop work, low or high angle shooting, etc, very very easy.

G


On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:48 AM, Jostein  wrote:

Is a right-angle viewfinder a viable option?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagull-1X-3-3x-Right-Angle-Viewfinder-Canon-Nikon-Olympus-Pentax-Camera-/261393469750

Jostein

Den 05.07.2018 23:41, skrev ann sanfedele:

It has me at the fold out screen allthe other stuff is nice

too, but that fold out screen is something I truly need in my studio
for product shooting without wrecking my already broken back.

I need to figure out a way ot finance this... will I get anything

on a trade in with my k-5 body?

I looks like it is a bit lighter than the K-5 too...   and I see

there are refurbished bodies out there.

and I thought the K-5 would last me forever...
ann

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Re: Pentax k-70 - damn! now I'm in trouble!

2018-07-06 Thread lrc
If other folks are interested, I'd be happy to chip in a few bucks on a help a 
pdml member in a pinch loan fund. Use the money to buy a k70, sell the k5 and 
the money is ready the next time someone is in a tight spot

On July 6, 2018 3:01:29 PM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>I think Jostein suggested this for me because of the price , as oppsed 
>to the new camera --
>but I WILL find a way... maybe not today...
>
>ann
>
>On 7/6/2018 12:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> In my experience, right angle finders are rarely much use other than
>for doing flat-art copy work on a copy stand or low angle work with a
>long lens on a low tripod. You have to get your eye too close and the
>angle just right for them to work properly, which doesn't help much
>when you're shooting tabletop product work.
>>
>> An articulated LCD with Live View and (preferably) magnification
>assist makes tabletop work a delight. Similarly, WiFi with a live view
>remote controlling app onto a modest sized tablet display makes
>tabletop work, low or high angle shooting, etc, very very easy.
>>
>> G
>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:48 AM, Jostein  wrote:
>>>
>>> Is a right-angle viewfinder a viable option?
>>>
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagull-1X-3-3x-Right-Angle-Viewfinder-Canon-Nikon-Olympus-Pentax-Camera-/261393469750
>>>
>>> Jostein
>>>
>>> Den 05.07.2018 23:41, skrev ann sanfedele:
 It has me at the fold out screen allthe other stuff is nice
>too, but that fold out screen is something I truly need in my studio
>for product shooting without wrecking my already broken back.
 I need to figure out a way ot finance this... will I get anything
>on a trade in with my k-5 body?
 I looks like it is a bit lighter than the K-5 too...   and I see
>there are refurbished bodies out there.
 and I thought the K-5 would last me forever...
 ann
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RE: Crap and corruption

2018-07-06 Thread John Coyle
Me too! Never lost a file with a two-stage backup in place, and the original 
files on optical media.

John in Brisbane



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Damn. Hope you can fix that. Another reason why I will never use Lightroom. 
It’s photoshop and old fashioned file keeping and backup for this old fashioned 
guy.

Paul

> On Jul 5, 2018, at 10:52 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I opened Lightroom to find a file, but when I tried to open said file in 
> Photoshop, I discovered that the file did not exist outside of the Lightroom 
> catalogue.
> Somehow, my Drobo managed to completely lose my entire image file directory. 
> That's over 30k files dating from 2006 to last week that just went poof. It's 
> the only directory that went walkabout, and it is well and truly gone, as a 
> deleted file finder wasn't able to turn anything up.
> I am at a complete loss as to how something like this could happen.
> 
> Fortunately, I have a secondary storage location, I'm pretty sure I haven't 
> lost many images, but I would really like to know how (and why) this one 
> directory decided to disappear.
> It looks like restoring things is going to take the better part of 24 hours.
> 
> bill
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