Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread David Mann
On Aug 5, 2006, at 11:32 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Thirdly, i have the grip foir the 200 and it helps in balance, but the feel is just not there for me, but its close. I got to play with a D200 the other day. The anti-shake is a little disconcerting: my brain knew that the viewfinder image

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread David Mann
On Aug 6, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Bob W wrote: My mobile phone has a ringtone that's like an old-fashioned phone with a bell - so it sounds like Sam Spade's office when it rings. If I actually used my cellphone a lot I'd consider one of these:

Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-07 Thread Doug Franklin
Ann Sanfedele wrote: Silver tabby is what she is alright - at the momment she only weighs 7 lbs. She is about 11 months old. Opinions vary on who much larger she will get. If she's 7# at 11 months, she probably won't get much bigger. I'd guess 10# absolute top end, and more likely around

Re: D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-07 Thread Don Williams
It happened to me with a new camera straight out of the box. It was replaced by the importers. It is/was quite a well known problem. Don David J Brooks wrote: Sounds like a problem. My D will show a depleated battery after a few pop up flash shots, even when full AA liths. My problem is

OT: The Narrow Road to the Deep North

2006-08-07 Thread Bob W
Ave! I'm setting off in a couple of hours to cycle Hadrian's Wall, so I will be away for a few days. See you anon. Vale! Robertus Maximus Quadriceps Reg: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers.

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread mike wilson
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/06 Sun PM 11:39:56 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system Money is a small part of the consideration. The key, Ken, is that the Prius is a good car. It has a nice, quiet

Re: OT: The Narrow Road to the Deep North

2006-08-07 Thread mike wilson
We heard you were coming, so I'm off to Norway for a week. Safer with Vikings than Southerners on bicycles 8-))) From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/07 Mon AM 08:10:19 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: The Narrow Road to the Deep North Ave! I'm

Re: OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-07 Thread keith_w
Francis Alviar wrote: This bird showed up out of nowhere while my daughter was feeding the ducks at a local park. The ducks were avoiding it like the plague. Probably due to the huge beak and menacing eyes. Anyway just want to know what the name of this bird is. Apologies for the

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, mike wilson wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/06 Sun PM 11:39:56 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system The extra cost of the hybrid power system is warranted on that kind of fuel

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: interior, excellent ride and handling, and good power for normal Thanks for this, maybe things have changed, as mid-range Toyotas were not famed for these aspects up until 5 yrs ago that I last bought a car. car which otherwise satisfies my needs

Re: PESO: My Chevy

2006-08-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bruce. I was able to translate your original post:-). Paul On Aug 7, 2006, at 12:30 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Not quite sure what I how I typed that - meant to say 'perhaps even cliche picture DONE excellently' -- Bruce Sunday, August 6, 2006, 8:45:30 PM, you wrote: BD A very

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Godfrey, On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 16:39:56 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The key, Ken, is that the Prius is a good car. It has a nice, quiet interior, excellent ride and handling, and good power for normal driving needs. On top of that, its highway fuel economy (as reported by several

Re: OT: The Narrow Road to the Deep North

2006-08-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/8/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm setting off in a couple of hours to cycle Hadrian's Wall, so I will be away for a few days. See you anon. Vale! Robertus Maximus Quadriceps Have fun. Off to see my parents in Wales for a week by the seaside. Cyfateb! -- Cheers, Cotty

Re: OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-07 Thread Bob Shell
It's a Black-Crowned Night Heron. I see them around here now and then. Bob On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:16 PM, Francis Alviar wrote: This bird showed up out of nowhere while my daughter was feeding the ducks at a local park. The ducks were avoiding it like the plague. Probably due to the huge

OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-07 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
At 12:41 AM 8/7/2006, you wrote: Message: 7 Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 20:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Francis Alviar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Please identify this bird To: pdml@pdml.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm not much @ birds, but it looks a

Re: D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-07 Thread Thibouille
I hope Pentax will still repair it... What would you do? Repair or send it back considering he bought it about 500 euros ?? -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-07 Thread Don Williams
Send it back. You can probably buy a new one for less in Spain where they still have them -- I believe. The replacement D I got came from there. Don Thibouille wrote: I hope Pentax will still repair it... What would you do? Repair or send it back considering he bought it about 500 euros ??

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: interior, excellent ride and handling, and good power for normal Thanks for this, maybe things have changed, as mid-range Toyotas were not famed for these aspects up until 5 yrs ago that I last bought a car. car which

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller wrote: We're probably going to spend about $24,000 no matter *what* kind of car we get, so there really is no extra cost for us. The extra cost I'm thinking about is the premium cost for the hybrid drivetrain over a similar sized vehicle. An interesting question, but that's

Re: OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Francis Alviar wrote: #1 http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742228 #2 http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742229 #3 http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742232 Looks like one of these: http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d400839.htm Black Crowned Night Heron. -- Mark Roberts

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Cory Papenfuss
highway mileage with good all-round performance. The Hybrid will do better in the city though, partially due to regenerative braking. The Prius gets notably better city mileage than it does on the highway. -Adam If you drove on the highway at city speeds, you'd get even better

Re: OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-07 Thread Bob Shell
On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:51 AM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: I'm not much @ birds, but it looks a bit like a kingfisher. Yeah, there's a striking resemblance. They both have feathers ;-) Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Bob Shell
The question I would have before buying such a complex car is about getting it repaired. It looks to me like a lot of things could break down, and if/when something does break, how likely is it that there will be a repairperson who knows enough to fix it. Around here the car mechanics

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell wrote: The question I would have before buying such a complex car is about getting it repaired. It looks to me like a lot of things could break down, and if/when something does break, how likely is it that there will be a repairperson who knows enough to fix it. Around here the

Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-07 Thread graywolf
Reminds me of the card-stock (paper) wallet I had as a kid. It was stamped in gold, Genuine Imitation Leather. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Ann Sanfedele wrote: Jack Davis wrote:

Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-07 Thread graywolf
Had to look up that Silver Tabby stuff. Interesting. When did they start calling a tiger striped cat a mackerel tabby? So I guess there was something fishy about the gray alley cat* we had when I was a kid. Guess you have to be a cat enthusiast to know the names of all those different color

Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
graywolf wrote: Reminds me of the card-stock (paper) wallet I had as a kid. It was stamped in gold, Genuine Imitation Leather. -- Somewhere I have a photo of a sign (whattashock) from the southwest at a display of silver and turquoise jewelry that said 'Imitation Indian ann -- PDML

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread graywolf
Of course, you guys know SR at the sensor will not stabilize the viewfinder image like the in the lens type does? -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- David Mann wrote: On Aug 5, 2006, at

Re: CD File Size

2006-08-07 Thread graywolf
I do not know exactly how PS uses the term, but -in general- metadata is information about the data, usually saved in the file. That is all the stuff in the file besides the actual photo -in this case- is metadata. It seems to have started as a HTML keyword and spread into other areas. Actual

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:45 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: The question I would have before buying such a complex car is about getting it repaired. It looks to me like a lot of things could break down, and if/when something does break, how likely is it that there will be a repairperson who knows enough

Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Doug Franklin wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: Silver tabby is what she is alright - at the momment she only weighs 7 lbs. She is about 11 months old. Opinions vary on who much larger she will get. If she's 7# at 11 months, she probably won't get much bigger. I'd guess 10# absolute

Re: D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-07 Thread brooksdj
You don't still have it set for wireles mode do you Dave? Dave Nope.:-) Its done this from day one, just never got around to sending it in. I try not to use the pop up anyway. Better results from the Sigma The Nikon D1 had a black screen even whan an

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread graywolf
At what a wimpy idea. My friend has one of those wall phones with the separate ear piece and ringer crank on the side. I have been thinking of adapting it to plug into my cel-phone. The only problem is that he has already refused a $1500 offer for that old phone. Hu...? On a more serious

PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-08-07 Thread gray_wolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: [Off Topic] HEAT [WAS:Re: Some images...]

2006-08-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
keith_w wrote: Ann! How are you faring in the oppressive heat in NYC? I'll bet you turn on the A/C *this* time ~ if there's power, that is... Be well! keith whaley Keith, I have turn the AC on when it is 75 out, forget about 100! I just saw this post this morning - not sure when

Re: OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-07 Thread Francis Alviar
-- Keith Whaley wrote: Don't know the bird's name, but the photos are great! Exposure and focus are spot on! keith whaley -- Thanks Keith! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread graywolf
Ah-ha, someone who looks beyond the obvious. That is the problem all electric vehicles have. I was looking into electric bicycles a bit back, and even they have that problem, although a couple of hundred bucks for the bicycle battery is better than the few thousand which I will bet the

Re: OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-07 Thread Francis Alviar
Thanks Skye, Anne, and Mark. Francis __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise inperspective adjustment)

2006-08-07 Thread Jens Bladt
IMO perspective correction can be overdone. A tall buildning for instance, photographed from below, should show - to some extend - converging linies - as a it is a fact of life, that objects appear smaller when they are further away. As kind of an answer to you question, Photoshop also offers a

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread graywolf
Electric motors and generators are about 30% effective. 30% of 30% is about 10%, so regenerative breaking gets back is about 10% max! That is better than a kick in the pants*, but not much. RB is mostly a feature that cost little to implement and sounds good in the advertising. *RB seems to

Re: GESO: McKenzie Country

2006-08-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Dave -- comes up fine in my Netscape with Java turned off - phew The wall of photos is nicely presented - yeah some of those pix looked familiar :) ann David Mann wrote: Hi all, I've recently finished a long-overdue update to my gallery viewer. On the surface not a lot has changed

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system Ah-ha, someone who looks beyond the obvious. That is the problem all electric vehicles have. I was looking into electric bicycles a bit back, and even they have that problem, although a

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread graywolf
You forgot to add that they also know nothing about cars that were made before they went to school 5-10 years ago. The way it works now is they plug the car into the computer. If the computer does not recognize the problem, they say the car is unrepairable. Repair is a misnomer anyway; remove

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Ryan Brooks
graywolf wrote: Electric motors and generators are about 30% effective. 30% of 30% is about 10%, so regenerative breaking gets back is about 10% max! That is better than a kick in the pants*, but not much. RB is mostly a feature that cost little to implement and sounds good in the

Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bruce Dayton wrote: This is the last of the pond shots for awhile. This was an attempt to isolate and simplify and hopefully give a feeling of peacefulness that is present. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3244.htm

PESO: Primal Migration

2006-08-07 Thread Jack Davis
This is another darker mood shot. Taken at an oft visited local State Wildlife Area. Sun was in and out of low clouds/high fog. I set 2 stops of plus compensation, squinted and blinked toward the sun 'til I caught a glimpse of geese. Canada Honkers or Snows.(?) A pall that may not please everyone,

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Cory Papenfuss
graywolf wrote: Electric motors and generators are about 30% effective. 30% of 30% is about 10%, so regenerative breaking gets back is about 10% max! That is better than a kick in the pants*, but not much. RB is mostly a feature that cost little to implement and sounds good in the

Re: My Chevy

2006-08-07 Thread gibikote
maybe this is a very basic question... how did you avoid your reflection?! :-) regards Sridhar - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:49 AM Subject: PESO: My Chevy

Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks for the suggestions. Perhaps my next walk I'll see how low I can get and see what that does to the results. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, August 7, 2006, 8:44:22 AM, you wrote: g being closer to the water level might also help... g the crop suggested by WR defiitely makes it less

Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-07 Thread gibikote
being closer to the water level might also help... the crop suggested by WR defiitely makes it less busy... and thus more peaceful (?) about the other pond pics in your site (3279, 3263) - I would wish to attempt these also at a lower level, and in landscape. regards Sridhar - Original

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread Bob Shell
On Aug 7, 2006, at 9:49 AM, graywolf wrote: Of course, you guys know SR at the sensor will not stabilize the viewfinder image like the in the lens type does? That was the hardest part of shooting with the Minolta 7D for me. I've been using Canon with its image-stabilized lenses for years

Re: Primal Migration

2006-08-07 Thread gibikote
nice. makes one a bit pensive I think ;) Sridhar - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: PESO: Primal Migration This is another darker mood shot. Taken at an oft visited local State Wildlife Area.

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread mike wilson
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, mike wilson wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/06 Sun PM 11:39:56 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system The extra cost of the hybrid power system is

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote: Of course, you guys know SR at the sensor will not stabilize the viewfinder image like the in the lens type does? Yes, but the D200 doesn't have built-in antishake, however one of the kit options for the D200 is the 18-200 VR, which is optically stabilized and will

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Bob Shell
On Aug 7, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: My previous two Toyotas were excellent on maintenance ... I had the MR2 for 17-18 years and it rarely needed anything other than standard maintenance: one of the least expensive, lowest maintenance cars to run of any that I've owned since

Re: PESO: Primal Migration

2006-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice composition. Jack Davis wrote: This is another darker mood shot. Taken at an oft visited local State Wildlife Area. Sun was in and out of low clouds/high fog. I set 2 stops of plus compensation, squinted and blinked toward the sun 'til I caught a glimpse of geese. Canada Honkers or

Re: Primal Migration

2006-08-07 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks! Strikes the same chord with me. Jack --- gibikote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nice. makes one a bit pensive I think ;) Sridhar - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: PESO: Primal

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 7, 2006, at 8:54 AM, mike wilson wrote: The extra cost of the hybrid power system is warranted on that kind of fuel mileage for me, coupled with the fact that it's a darn nice car which otherwise satisfies my needs well. The fact that it uses less fuel than most others with its

Re: PESO: Primal Migration

2006-08-07 Thread Jack Davis
One of my favorite compliments. Thanks! Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice composition. Jack Davis wrote: This is another darker mood shot. Taken at an oft visited local State Wildlife Area. Sun was in and out of low clouds/high fog. I set 2 stops of plus

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 7, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Bob Shell wrote: ... I went from being a loyal Toyota owner and booster to someone who wouldn't touch anything with their name on it. Sad story, Bob. You had an dealer who didn't support you, and you didn't get anyone to take up your cause at the corporate

Re: My Chevy

2006-08-07 Thread pnstenquist
The hubcap is cone-shaped, so anything directly in front of it isn't reflected. Paul -- Original message -- From: gibikote [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe this is a very basic question... how did you avoid your reflection?! :-) regards Sridhar - Original

PESO - Impressionist Creek

2006-08-07 Thread Tom C
Went down to one of the local swimming holes on Saturday to cool ourselves and the dogs off. After a couple glasses of Pinot Grigio, I started messing around with some water shots. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4776623size=lg Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped,

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: course. But it can hardly be said that you have to save a huge amount of fuel before you recoup the environmental cost of constructing it in the first place is a valid statement if you're trying to contrast it to petrol and diesel powered

Re: PESO - Impressionist Creek

2006-08-07 Thread gibikote
hi. the Pinot must have been good! :-)) nice gold hues... very interesting lines and shades... creates some imaginary thingies under the water. hmmm... makes me wish for some Pinot regards Sridhar - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday,

Re: PESO - Impressionist Creek

2006-08-07 Thread Jack Davis
Guess I'll blame the Pinot Grigio. chuckle Bright spot is very near center and foreground soft.(?) I'm no doubt stating the obvious, so take them not as criticisms, but observations. ;) I do like the scene. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Went down to one of the local swimming holes on

Re: PESO - Impressionist Creek

2006-08-07 Thread Tom C
Yes, but I think it works. Impressionistic style rarely did present a clear image. I think the white rock is far enough away from center to not be a problem. Thanks for the comments. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Jack Davis

D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-07 Thread Jerome Reyes
I hope Pentax will still repair it... What would you do? Repair or send it back considering he bought it about 500 euros ?? If he bought it new, then I'd say send it back. Why pay money to send it to repair if you can try your luck by just swapping for a new one. As for the problem itself,

Re: PESO - Impressionist Creek

2006-08-07 Thread Tom C
Thanks Srihar... Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: gibikote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Impressionist Creek Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Adam Maas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: course. But it can hardly be said that you have to save a huge amount of fuel before you recoup the environmental cost of constructing it in the first place is a valid statement if you're trying to contrast it to petrol

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 07.08.06, at 17:58 , Bob Shell wrote: That was the hardest part of shooting with the Minolta 7D for me. I've been using Canon with its image-stabilized lenses for years and was used to seeing it work in the viewfinder. With the Minolta system, and presumably the Pentax system, you just

Re: D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-07 Thread brooksdj
I hope Pentax will still repair it... What would you do? Repair or send it back considering he bought it about 500 euros ?? If he bought it new, then I'd say send it back. Why pay money to send it to repair if you can try your luck by just

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread mike wilson
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 7, 2006, at 8:54 AM, mike wilson wrote: The extra cost of the hybrid power system is warranted on that kind of fuel mileage for me, coupled with the fact that it's a darn nice car which otherwise satisfies my needs well. The fact that it uses less fuel than

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 7, 2006, at 12:08 PM, mike wilson wrote: I didn't mean my origianl staement as a direct criticism of your choice of vehicle but as a general one about the motor industry. I have a sneaking and unevaluated feeling that the environmental cost of producing new cars is higher than the

Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-07 Thread Russell Kerstetter
On 8/6/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the last of the pond shots for awhile. This was an attempt to isolate and simplify and hopefully give a feeling of peacefulness that is present. I like your idea, and for me, it is successful. It reminds me of a camp I used to go to in

Re: PESO: Primal Migration

2006-08-07 Thread Russell Kerstetter
Primal Migration I like the compostion, and I think that 'primal' is a good adjective for the mood of the shot. Good job. Maybe next time you could show us something not-so-good. :) russell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/7/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand how the hybrid-electric Prius is substantially different in terms of environmental cost of manufacture compared to a petrol or diesel powered automobile. I'm not sure if I believe it, but this is an interesting argument:

Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-07 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is the modern world, however. To change from that basis into a low-tech, non-manufacturing culture is likely something that will not happen anytime soon unless there was catastrophic pressure to deal with. No need for low-tech to get anywhere.

What's so different about the PEFs from a K100D?

2006-08-07 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Hello all, a friend came along today to show me his new K100D and a few shots he'd taken with it. Turned out that neither CS2 nor Lightroom read the PEFs from a K100D. Given that they're the same resolution and pixel count, I don't quite see why that should be. Otherwise a nice camera but

Re: PESO: Primal Migration

2006-08-07 Thread Jack Davis
Depend on it. Kind words, Thanks! Jack --- Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Primal Migration I like the compostion, and I think that 'primal' is a good adjective for the mood of the shot. Good job. Maybe next time you could show us something not-so-good. :) russell

Re: CD File Size

2006-08-07 Thread Doug Franklin
graywolf wrote: I do not know exactly how PS uses the term, but -in general- metadata is information about the data, usually saved in the file. That is all the stuff in the file besides the actual photo -in this case- is metadata. It seems to have started as a HTML keyword and spread into

Re: What's so different about the PEFs from a K100D?

2006-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
There's a tag in the meta-data in the PEF file that the raw converter references. If it's unknown, rather than make a mistake in rendering a file it refuses to even try. You'll have to wait for an update to the converter. In this case simply the inclusion of a new key, most probably. Ralf

Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-07 Thread Doug Franklin
graywolf wrote: Had to look up that Silver Tabby stuff. Interesting. When did they start calling a tiger striped cat a mackerel tabby? Hmmm. I'm certainly no expert, but I always thought that the Tabby part described the tiger strip-ed-ness and the word before Tabby described the coloration.

Re: CD File Size

2006-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
In some cases meta-data will be instructions on how to interpret the data. Doug Franklin wrote: graywolf wrote: I do not know exactly how PS uses the term, but -in general- metadata is information about the data, usually saved in the file. That is all the stuff in the file besides the

Re: What's so different about the PEFs from a K100D?

2006-08-07 Thread Doug Franklin
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: a friend came along today to show me his new K100D and a few shots he'd taken with it. Turned out that neither CS2 nor Lightroom read the PEFs from a K100D. Given that they're the same resolution and pixel count, I don't quite see why that should be. There are

Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Good to hear varying opinions - I may go back and work at it a little more to see if it can be improved. Thanks for the comments. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, August 7, 2006, 1:17:01 PM, you wrote: RK On 8/6/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the last of the pond shots for

Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-07 Thread Doug Franklin
Ann Sanfedele wrote: Thanks for that reassurance :) that is what the adoption place told me, but another cat owner, looking at my cat's ears and long legs thought otherwise...but that was based on photos, not up close and personal real life look :) Well, anything's possible. :-) But for

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 5, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: And encourage us to buy new lenses? Gosh, no! I just can't see it. They've never screwed with the customer like that before. Plus, their pro commitment is still to medium format. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: What's so different about the PEFs from a K100D?

2006-08-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 7, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: a friend came along today to show me his new K100D and a few shots he'd taken with it. Turned out that neither CS2 nor Lightroom read the PEFs from a K100D. Given that they're the same resolution and pixel count, I don't quite

Re: What's so different about the PEFs from a K100D?

2006-08-07 Thread brooksdj
Ralf. Could be a subtle change in the software/hardware that is a pef. I know thet each new Nikon Dslr has subtle changes and you have to buy the new version of Nikon Capture and View to see these items. However, Adobe probly have the K100D pef info and should release an updated ACR soon. If

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
They've never screwed with their customers like that before. Well not until the introduction of the *ist Film and Digital introduction that is. Try to meter with a pre-A lens on the film *ist and let me know how that works for ya. Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Aug 5, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Mark

Re: What's so different about the PEFs from a K100D?

2006-08-07 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, Adobe probly have the K100D pef info and should release an updated ACR soon. If not, download DNG, convert and enjoy. Don't even need to download DNG converter: The new Pentax software converts to DNG format. Smart move on Pentax's part because it means you can

Neg v Slide Scanning Results

2006-08-07 Thread Jack Davis
I've never heard or read why it seems to be the case, but I, also, realize a poorer image when scanning color negatives than I do when scanning positives. Based on posts to this list, I understanding this to be the common experience. At least there appears to be a drudgery factor associated with

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Tom, the Nikon F70 was the death knell for simple, elegant, useable camera controls. God in heaven, that thing sucked, and sold like wildfire. -Aaron -Original Message- From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: K10D - More News Date: Sat Aug 5, 2006 2:33 pm Size: 7K To:

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread Aaron Reynolds
John -- this does not change the fact that the store could order it and have it in a few days. Like I said, the reason you have no Pentax pro glass for sale is that you ordered no Pentax pro glass. All you have done below is to list the very sensible reasons that your store has not ordered

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread Thibouille
Especially because all those features just do something I already know how to do myself. You can read a 12 page camera manual and a 200 page book on photography; or you can read a 200 page camera manual, and a 200 page book on photography, so you know when to turn on those hundreds of

Re: returning to this group

2006-08-07 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Everyone I know with a D2H seriously hates it -- was it a notorious dog? -Aaron -Original Message- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] I;m looking for something to replace my D2h which i hate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread Tom C
I'm sure all this true but it gets pretty circular. Aside from market momentum, one of the reasons most pros don't use Pentax may be because they'd have to order it. If my income depended on my having the right equipment at the right time, I'd go with a brand where I was pretty sure I could

PESO: Lazy days

2006-08-07 Thread John Coyle
Spotted yesterday: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4778108 Warning - skin but not nude, and definitely office-friendly! Technical stuff under Details John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-07 Thread Thibouille
2006/8/7, Jerome Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I hope Pentax will still repair it... What would you do? Repair or send it back considering he bought it about 500 euros ?? If he bought it new, then I'd say send it back. Why pay money to send it to repair if you can try your luck by just

Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-07 Thread Aaron Reynolds
The Pentax pro programs are also virtually non-existent. They're not pursuing the market. But like I said originally, I was not suggesting that John's store SHOULD carry the stuff -- just saying that availability is a bd argument from a retailer, since it's available to them. The fact that

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