price comparisons *istD* (was Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?)

2005-11-14 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2005-11-11 14:00, Martin Trautmann wrote: On 2005-11-10 11:09, John Forbes wrote: It's not advertised much, but for the last nine months the D has generally been sold for the same price as the DS in the UK. while checking German EU prices:

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-12 Thread mike wilson
Rob Studdert wrote: On 11 Nov 2005 at 12:55, John Forbes wrote: Not entirely true, Mike. I saw a documentry featuring turdcams, and although the elephants did spot a couple of them, most survived. One of the best wild-life docs I've seen. If it's the doco I saw the elephants cottoned on

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-12 Thread David Savage
I remember these. There was one with lions another with elephants, both featuring David Attenborough doing the voice over. http://www.jdp.co.uk/progs/lions_spy_in_the_den.php http://www.jdp.co.uk/progs/elephants.php Dave On 11/13/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Studdert wrote:

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Nov 10, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Christian wrote: I agree with you about getting close to the subjects and I try to do this in my own nature (bird) photography. After looking at Brandt's photos, I must say that you and I have VERY different ideas about photography and doing the subjects

Re: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread mike wilson
From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/11 Fri AM 08:36:36 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? On Nov 10, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Christian wrote: I agree with you about getting close to the subjects and I try to do this in my

Re: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, mike wilson wrote: close to where Brandt presumably was with the camera. The the fall-off and vignetting would then mimic how your eyes would have seen the real thing. I also suspect this is not an effect you could duplicate easily with a 600mm lens? The Pentax 600/4 has

Re: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread mike wilson
From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/11 Fri AM 09:39:01 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, mike wilson wrote: close to where Brandt presumably was with the camera. The the fall-off and vignetting

Re: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread John Forbes
PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/11 Fri AM 09:39:01 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, mike wilson wrote: close to where Brandt presumably was with the camera. The the fall-off and vignetting would then mimic how your eyes would have

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread John Forbes
Why not a Leica/LX solution, with both the straps on one side? (The opposite side, hopefully.) John On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:25:55 -, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Guess I must

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2005-11-10 11:09, John Forbes wrote: It's not advertised much, but for the last nine months the D has generally been sold for the same price as the DS in the UK. while checking German EU prices: http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/?fs=istdx=0y=0in= *istD: 1000 EUR *istDs: 600 EUR *istDL:

OT - Air Jaws (was: Any reason not to buy a *istD?)

2005-11-11 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oceanwideimages.com.au/categories.asp?cID=112p=2 I love air jaws There was a documentary on the National Geographic channel a few years ago about the South African great whites leaping out of the water to catch

Re: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread mike wilson
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/11 Fri PM 12:55:53 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Not entirely true, Mike. I saw a documentry featuring turdcams, and although the elephants did spot a couple of them, most

Re: OT - Air Jaws (was: Any reason not to buy a *istD?)

2005-11-11 Thread pnstenquist
A tripod on a boat? Trying to shoot leaping whales?? It makes one wonder if that setup wasn't stagecrafted for the video. Paul - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oceanwideimages.com.au/categories.asp?cID=112p=2 I love air jaws There was a

Re: OT - Air Jaws (was: Any reason not to buy a *istD?)

2005-11-11 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: OT - Air Jaws (was: Any reason not to buy a *istD?) A tripod on a boat? AS I remember it yes... But I might be mistiaken; it does sound like a dumb idea

Re: OT - Air Jaws (was: Any reason not to buy a *istD?)

2005-11-11 Thread Cotty
Trying to shoot leaping whales?? Great white sharks. Big fish, not whales :-) Sharks leaping out of the water like that - pretty amazing stuff. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/11/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.nickbrandt.com/ f*(%^^*ing know-it-all web designers! What a terrible site. I'll have to tell him, one of my close friend designed the site :-) You can tell him from me that it's shit. I hate the dumbing down that goes on,

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
] Sent: Nov 10, 2005 9:21 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? i can imagine a picture sequence of spawning salmon leaping a waterfall where you might want to capture a leap and a failure from beginning to end. one picture in the middle isn't the same impact

Re: OT - Air Jaws (was: Any reason not to buy a *istD?)

2005-11-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
A tripod on a boat? The boats motor had better not be running. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Air Jaws (was: Any reason not to buy a *istD?) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I don't care much for the design of the site either ... annoying to navigate and miserable to use with a dialup connection. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: Cotty On 11/11/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.nickbrandt.com/

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/11/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.nickbrandt.com/ f*(%^^*ing know-it-all web designers! What a terrible site. I'll have to tell him, one of my close friend designed the site :-) You can tell him from me that it's shit. I hate

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Jens Bladt
- Fra: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. november 2005 01:07 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Not great for creating pano sequences is it? :-( Not aware of an issue with panos. What did I miss? Kenneth Waller - Original Message

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Jens Bladt
almost the same. Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. november 2005 03:14 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? It is short for the Scandinavian word svar ;-) It mean

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
was an element I was trying to employ) Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD? What did I miss? When creating panoramas of scenery that involves moving objects - let's say people walking in the street or sitting

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Adam Maas
the same. Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. november 2005 03:14 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? It is short for the Scandinavian word svar ;-) It mean the same

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Jens Bladt
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. november 2005 19:04 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD? ...For action shots, it is sometimes required to be able to do more than a 5-shot burst. Jens, While you can make a pano out of anything you choose, in general, I would

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
or not shouldn't matter one way or the other. Don't take this personally, its only photography Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 11, 2005 1:56 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Well, a shot (Panorama

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Jens Bladt
: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Well, a shot (Panorama) of a side walk cafe is not very interesting without people in it, is it? There are no rules as to what to pano or not, but unless I felt the movement (of the people) was an integral element of the shot I wouldn't take it. -Just me- (I

Re: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Nov 2005 at 12:55, John Forbes wrote: Not entirely true, Mike. I saw a documentry featuring turdcams, and although the elephants did spot a couple of them, most survived. One of the best wild-life docs I've seen. If it's the doco I saw the elephants cottoned on to the camera lark

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Herb Chong
, November 11, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Not interested. As I stated in a previous post I'm tying to get past the documentation shot. I think for some people, new to in- field animal shots, just capturing photographically, animals in the wild, is a real hoot. I've

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-11 Thread Herb Chong
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Well, a shot (Panorama) of a side walk cafe is not very interesting without people in it, is it? (I assume you didn't bother

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread John Forbes
In the UK, the D now sells for the same price as the DS. Your argument no longer applies, in this country at least. John On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:58:55 -, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nor do I but the question is would you buy another? I

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Tom C
? Tom C. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:19:08 - In the UK, the D now sells for the same price as the DS. Your argument no longer applies

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread John Forbes
particular retailer? Tom C. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:19:08 - In the UK, the D now sells for the same price as the DS. Your argument

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On 11/10/05, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not arguing John. snip Yes you are! -frank g -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Adam Maas
Doug Franklin wrote: On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:26:31 +0100, Jens Bladt wrote: Fiddely CF card removal. You know, people have commented on this repeatedly, and I just don't get it. Once I found the eject button at the bottom of the CF card well, removal hasn't been a problem at all.

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
selective in what I shoot. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? I could see it being a limitation at key/critical moments, maybe not often... If one is taking a panorama at sunrise or sunset, during a fast moving storm

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
The proximity of the door to the strap attachment is a concern, but once you realise the strap must be up away from the door, it becomes a non issue. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? On Wed, 9 Nov

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Tom C wrote: The reasons not to buy an *ist D are pretty simple, IMO. 1. It's now a hair's breadth away from being a two year old camera. I've owned my Canon 10D for over two years now and it was 9 months old in the field when I bought it. It still takes superb

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread P. J. Alling
It lists for a lot higher in the US but you can find them on line for less than the DS. (Not at the the big boys like KEH, BH and Adorama though). John Forbes wrote: In the UK, the D now sells for the same price as the DS. Your argument no longer applies, in this country at least. John

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 11/10/05, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto. And I'd take it over the DS's SD Card Launcher. -Adam I have no idea how the *istD behaves, but my DS will eject the SD card (a Sandisk Ultra II - 1GB) exactly the right amount, not a mm more or less. It won't drop to the floor and it's

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 10, 2005, at 11:31, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: On 11/10/05, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto. And I'd take it over the DS's SD Card Launcher. -Adam I have no idea how the *istD behaves, but my DS will eject the SD card (a Sandisk Ultra II - 1GB) exactly the right

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Tom C
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] The second is that there is a big learning curve with digital picture processing, and the sooner you start the better. Totally agree. Tom C.

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Don Williams
I don't understand this business of the card. The card I have (Kingston) goes in and comes out perfectly well. I expected not to be able to get hold of it -- from reading messages of a couple of years ago. Don Charles Robinson wrote: On Nov 10, 2005, at 11:31, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Tom C
easily fills in that time frame. Nice backhand, BTW. Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:49:41 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Panos aside, any action shots

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You should read this month's Lenswork interview with Nick Grant regarding his wildlife photos from Africa. He uses a Pentax 6x7 camera and gets in CLOSE. Patience and a tolerance for letting the world do as it might is essential. His wildlife photos are the only ones I've seen in recent

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread John Francis
Try a Microdrive. They're just a little bit fatter than a CF card - eonugh so that you will occasionally need to give the unit a good tug to remove it. That's almost impossible with the D - the door gets in the way. On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 07:56:37PM +0200, Don Williams wrote: I don't

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
easily fills in that time frame. Nice backhand, BTW. Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:49:41 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Panos aside, any action shots

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? You should read this month's Lenswork interview with Nick Grant regarding his wildlife photos from Africa. He uses a Pentax 6x7 camera and gets in CLOSE. Patience and a tolerance for letting the world do as it might

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should read this month's Lenswork interview with Nick Grant regarding his wildlife photos from Africa. He uses a Pentax 6x7 camera and gets in CLOSE. Patience and a tolerance for letting the world do as it might

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Tom Reese
Getting close can harm the animals. It may give away their location to predators or prey, cause stress, disrupt feeding and lead to abandonment of nests or young. - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should read this month's Lenswork interview

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? You should read this month's Lenswork interview with Nick Grant regarding his wildlife photos from Africa. He uses a Pentax 6x7 camera and gets in CLOSE. Patience and a tolerance

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Tom C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Really Ken? When an animal is running through undergrowth and towards trees and cover where there will be no more opportunity to take the shot you are more selective? I'm talking about a situation where you have probably at most

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? It all depends on the situation Ken. My shooting style changes with the situation I'm presented with (as I'm sure yours must as well). If the subject is relatively stationary, there's plenty of time

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Tom C
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:27:04 -0600 - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? It all depends

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Yes. I didn't mean to imply I just hold the shutter release down. Even a shot a second or every two seconds will quickly put one in a wait and watch state. There is a benefit to the istD's buffer

RE: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10. november 2005 20:47 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Adam Maas
:47 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Yes. I didn't mean to imply I just hold the shutter release down. Even a shot a second or every two seconds will quickly

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? This I don't understand. Why waiting for the light to go out when talking to pretty and almost naked girls? You don't see them without light. Ah, now I do understand. You are kind of shy. Think

RE: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
. november 2005 21:38 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Tim, I think he's talking about das blinkenlight on the D, which indicates when it's writing to flash. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: This I don't understand. Why waiting for the light

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Nov 2005 at 13:47, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Yes. I didn't mean to imply I just hold the shutter release down. Even a shot a second or every two seconds will quickly put one in a wait

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Nov 2005 at 13:34, John Francis wrote: Try a Microdrive. They're just a little bit fatter than a CF card - eonugh so that you will occasionally need to give the unit a good tug to remove it. That's almost impossible with the D - the door gets in the way. I guess we're just dreaming

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? I had a camera with well designed CF card access, initially the *ist D seemed a very poor design and was irritating until I worked out work-arounds. Now I'm used to it, hopefully what comes

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? I had a camera with well designed CF card access, initially the *ist D seemed a very poor design and was irritating until I worked out work-arounds. Now I'm used

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Nov 2005 at 18:31, Adam Maas wrote: Guess I must be wierd that way. While I agree that flipping the slot would be an improvement, I've always liked the slot in the D. It's about perfect for me, the only real issue is the strap location. I guess so When using a stiff card the card pops

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? I've had to fit unsightly pull tabs to my cards so that I can remove them. On my old Oly E10 I simply flipped the card door open (the strap was still potentially in the way but the type

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Guess I must be wierd that way. While I agree that flipping the slot would be an improvement, I've always liked the slot in the D. It's about perfect for me, the only real issue is the strap

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Herb Chong
powerful in telling a story. Herb - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? I shot similar moving sequences of caribou, moose, bear, beaver ptarmigan

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Nov 2005 at 21:21, Herb Chong wrote: for certain types of action, you don't have to shoot quick bursts, but is that a reflection of knowing the camera's limits and not trying to exceed them, or because you simply aren't interested? i can imagine a picture sequence of spawning salmon

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread David Mann
On Nov 11, 2005, at 7:52 AM, Christian wrote: So I had to check out Nick Grant.. errr Brandt to see what he's all about. http://www.nickbrandt.com/ f*(%^^*ing know-it-all web designers! What a terrible site. Nice photos though. I'd love to see the cheetah one in colour. - Dave (a

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Nov 2005 at 17:42, David Mann wrote: On Nov 11, 2005, at 7:52 AM, Christian wrote: So I had to check out Nick Grant.. errr Brandt to see what he's all about. http://www.nickbrandt.com/ f*(%^^*ing know-it-all web designers! What a terrible site. I'll have to tell him, one of

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 10, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Christian wrote: You should read this month's Lenswork interview with Nick Grant regarding his wildlife photos from Africa. He uses a Pentax 6x7 camera and gets in CLOSE. Patience and a tolerance for letting the world do as it might is essential. His

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Adam Maas
Rob Studdert wrote: On 11 Nov 2005 at 17:42, David Mann wrote: On Nov 11, 2005, at 7:52 AM, Christian wrote: So I had to check out Nick Grant.. errr Brandt to see what he's all about. http://www.nickbrandt.com/ f*(%^^*ing know-it-all web designers! What a terrible site.

Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Just wondering... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Just wondering... Since it shares the same sensor as it's less expensive siblings, you are paying a premium for what is primarily a nicer build quality. The istD really is a nicely assembled

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Don Sanderson
: Ralf R. Radermacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:52 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Just wondering... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it shares the same sensor as it's less expensive siblings, you are paying a premium for what is primarily a nicer build quality. I take it the three models behave somewhat differently in combinaiton with manual lenses. Anyone with a link or a short

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Adam Maas
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it shares the same sensor as it's less expensive siblings, you are paying a premium for what is primarily a nicer build quality. I take it the three models behave somewhat differently in combinaiton with manual

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Scott Loveless
Yes. Wait until the *istD replacement is available. Then pick up a used D for cheap from a fellow list member who is trying to raise the cash for the new model. g On 11/9/05, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG -

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Just wondering... Ralf I can't think of any -- but then, I've had one for the past year and a half. ;)

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
In general, or specifically related to other choices? Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Just wondering...

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Don, how long have you had the D? Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson Mine just hit 10,000 exposures and still going strong. I've handled the DS and DL, the D with battery grip is still the right one for me. I have zero regrets so far,

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The D has some more user features than the DS (dual control wheels for aperture and shutter selection, HyperProgram, more flash metering options, multiple user-configurable presets), can take a battery grip and takes CF cards. The DS went with a simpler control/feature set, a larger LCD,

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Larry Levy
It's been my tool of obvious choice since it's owned me. I have yet to shoot in a situation that caused me to want something else currently available that isn't significantly more expensive. Sure, I'd like my wide angle lenses to retain their apparent perspective when mounted on the *istD, but

SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Jens Bladt
do - if you have enough time and patience. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. november 2005 13:56 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD? - Original Message - From

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually I believe that except for the button you press the behavior is the same. On the *ist-D,Ds,DL the camera is set to fire the shutter with the lens aperture off A. Manual exposure is selected. On the D pressing the green button stops down the lens and sets the shutter speed to the

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Nov 2005 at 22:26, Jens Bladt wrote: Small buffer, Only 5 images in a bust. Then wait 37 sec's for the next 5 shots or 7 sec's for the next single shot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/469145/ Not great for creating pano sequences is it? :-( Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE

Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I can't think of a single reason not to, especially if you own K mount lenses. Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Just wondering... Ralf -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Jens Bladt
. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. november 2005 00:02 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD? I can't think of a single reason not to, especially if you own K mount lenses. Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Just wondering... Ralf -- When you're worried

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 08:44:53AM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: On 9 Nov 2005 at 22:26, Jens Bladt wrote: Small buffer, Only 5 images in a bust. Then wait 37 sec's for the next 5 shots or 7 sec's for the next single shot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/469145/ Not great for

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Not great for creating pano sequences is it? :-( Oddly enough, I've managed to use my D for (RAW) panoramas, and for motorsports action photography. I've tried some panos with mine. It can

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Nov 2005 at 18:37, John Francis wrote: Oddly enough, I've managed to use my D for (RAW) panoramas, and for motorsports action photography. I guess it's just as well that I didn't know the camera couldn't be used for such things. I'm glad for you but let's face it there was no other

RE: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Jens Bladt
That's exactly right! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. november 2005 23:45 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? On 9 Nov 2005 at 22:26, Jens Bladt wrote: Small

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Nov 2005 at 17:44, William Robb wrote: I suspect that was Rob's point. I know for a fact I have missed a number of pictures because of the small, slow buffer. It's like the fish that got away there's never proof, IOW a lost image can never be regained it's most painful for me when I'm,

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Tom C
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nor do I but the question is would you buy another? I wouldn't. Nor I. Not because I am patently unhappy with it. The *ist D was all there was for Pentax users when it came out. While I dislike the, IMO, reduced feature sets of the D(eviants), I'm

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
a *istD? - Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? Not great for creating pano sequences is it? :-( Oddly enough, I've managed to use my D for (RAW) panoramas, and for motorsports action photography. I've tried some panos with mine

RE: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
lenses quite badly, as I literally have dozens of these lenses and I like to use them that way jco -Original Message- From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:59 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD? From

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Nov 2005 at 19:06, Kenneth Waller wrote: Not great for creating pano sequences is it? :-( Not aware of an issue with panos. What did I miss? It's all to do with the total angle of view required vs the lenses angle view vs the dynamics of the subject, simple really. Rob Studdert

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 10:48:34AM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: On 9 Nov 2005 at 18:37, John Francis wrote: But I don't regret having purchased the camera, even though I paid almost $2000 (US) for the camera and battery grip. Nor do I but the question is would you buy another? I

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 08:44:53AM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: On 9 Nov 2005 at 22:26, Jens Bladt wrote: Small buffer, Only 5 images in a bust. Then wait 37 sec's for the next 5 shots or 7 sec's for the next single shot:

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
I guess its implied that you're trying to capture images faster than the buffer will allow. I very seldom run up against that limitation, especially with panos. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD

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