Re: OT: Covid

[Bill]

On Sun., Jul. 11, 2021, 11:35 a.m. John,  wrote:

> On 7/9/2021 17:50:54, Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 9, 2021, at 2:26 PM, John  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hell, there's got to be something about me that's above average, and I
> guess hearing is it.
> >
> > Your hearing is so good, you can even hear things that aren’t there.
> >
> >
>
> Nah. That would be average. Besides, if you're hearing things that are not
> there, you'd see them as well.
>

That's not explaining the past couple of weeks of my hearing Bill Gates
speaking with an Oxford accent.

bill

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Re: OT: Covid

[John]

On 7/9/2021 17:50:54, Larry Colen wrote:




On Jul 9, 2021, at 2:26 PM, John  wrote:



Hell, there's got to be something about me that's above average, and I guess 
hearing is it.


Your hearing is so good, you can even hear things that aren’t there.




Nah. That would be average. Besides, if you're hearing things that are not 
there, you'd see them as well.



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Re: OT: Covid

[Paul Stenquist]

A prophecy has been passed down through the ages via twitter and Facebook. On 
August 15, the feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin, hundreds of 
thousands of believers will assemble on the National Mall. A brilliantly lit 
cloud will appear overhead and begin to gradually descend. The believers will 
fall to their knees. When the cloud has descended, a figure will emerge from 
the mist: the Orange God — the diseased manslut — the antithesis of a blessed 
virgin. The believers will chant, “MAGA, MAGA, MAGA!” The orange one will pass 
gas and pick his nose as the assembled masses cheer. He will then be seated in 
a gilded sedan chair and a dozen hairy men with american flags tattooed on 
their foreheads will carry the portly philanderer to the white house. 
Legislators and government staff will flee before the throng, recognizing that 
armageddon has come, and the sweat-soaked studboy will once again assume his 
rightful place behind the resolute desk. So it has been written, so it will be 
done.

> On Jul 9, 2021, at 12:27 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 01:31:30AM -0600, Bill wrote:
>> On Fri., Jul. 9, 2021, 12:07 a.m. mike wilson, 
>> wrote:
>>> Yet still it is talked about.  Which is all he wants, really.
>>> 
>> 
>> I suppose so, though I can't imagine why anyone would want to be mocked as
>> a fool.
> 
> Because every time he gets talked about triggers another stream of donations.
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Re: OT: Covid

[Nolan Hinshaw]

On Jul 9, 2021, at 10:45, mike wilson  wrote:
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> I am _NOT_ a geordie.

Haven't I seen you playing one on the telly?
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Re: OT: Covid

[Larry Colen]

> On Jul 9, 2021, at 2:26 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hell, there's got to be something about me that's above average, and I guess 
> hearing is it.

Your hearing is so good, you can even hear things that aren’t there.


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Re: OT: Covid

[mike wilson]

I am _NOT_ a geordie.

> On 09 July 2021 at 17:17 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> He’s a Geordie Hannibal Lecter. He eats his liver with a tin of Heinz beans 
> and a nice bottle of brown ale.
> 
> > On 9 Jul 2021, at 16:20, Rick Womer  wrote:
> > 
> > Gosh, for a psychotically deluded megalomaniac, you’re pretty subtle!’
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> >> On Jul 9, 2021, at 3:43 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> >> 
> >> You're not thinking like a psychotically deluded megalomaniac.  Which, 
> >> apparently, I am
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Re: OT: Covid

[John]

Why would I need to confirm it. It's just something odd I noticed. If you want 
to confirm it, find your own voices.


If it was signal processing in the brain it wouldn't go away when I change 
position in the bed.


I wouldn't have noticed it at all if it wasn't just at that one spot and only at 
certain times of the day. It's almost always between sunrise & noon, except for 
when it's late, Late at night.


Whoever owns the radio/TV sometimes has insomnia as bad as mine.

The pattern is what intrigues me. Talk interspersed with music that sounds like 
commercials & occasional (laugh track) laughter.


Also sometimes there's more than one voice like they're having some kind of 
on-air conversation. Whoever has the radio/TV is doesn't listen to the same 
station all the time. I can hear a difference in the musical interludes.


I've been told by audiologists that I have particularly acute hearing, well 
above average (even after all those years in the Army).


Hell, there's got to be something about me that's above average, and I guess 
hearing is it.


On 7/9/2021 15:27:38, Larry Colen wrote:




On Jul 9, 2021, at 11:10 AM, John  wrote:

I think the voices might be real, but they're not what everyone thinks.

Sometimes when I'm having a late morning lie in, I can hear something. It's too 
indistinct to actually make out words, but it has a flavor like American morning 
drive-time radio or TV morning "News".

I think one of my neighbors may have the radio or TV on and there's some kind 
of acoustic channel that the sound reflects to my bedroom. And that's part of 
why I think it's real, because I only hear it when it's fairly quiet outside 
and when I'm laying in that one spot in my bed.


The good news is that this might be fairly easy to confirm.  I don’t know if 
the mic of your cell phone would be sensitive enough to pick up the sounds, but 
it might.

There is also the case that the human brain is amazing at filtering signal out 
of noise. Unfortunately it is so good that it can find signal where there is 
none, so there might just be some noise that is close enough to be like speech 
that your brain thinks there is speech there for it to filter out.


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Re: OT: Covid

[mike wilson]

The difference between British PDMs and American ones. 8 -)

> On 09 July 2021 at 16:20 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Gosh, for a psychotically deluded megalomaniac, you’re pretty subtle!’
> 
> Rick
> 
> > On Jul 9, 2021, at 3:43 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > You're not thinking like a psychotically deluded megalomaniac.  Which, 
> > apparently, I am
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Re: OT: Covid

[Larry Colen]

> On Jul 9, 2021, at 11:10 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> I think the voices might be real, but they're not what everyone thinks.
> 
> Sometimes when I'm having a late morning lie in, I can hear something. It's 
> too indistinct to actually make out words, but it has a flavor like American 
> morning drive-time radio or TV morning "News".
> 
> I think one of my neighbors may have the radio or TV on and there's some kind 
> of acoustic channel that the sound reflects to my bedroom. And that's part of 
> why I think it's real, because I only hear it when it's fairly quiet outside 
> and when I'm laying in that one spot in my bed.

The good news is that this might be fairly easy to confirm.  I don’t know if 
the mic of your cell phone would be sensitive enough to pick up the sounds, but 
it might.

There is also the case that the human brain is amazing at filtering signal out 
of noise. Unfortunately it is so good that it can find signal where there is 
none, so there might just be some noise that is close enough to be like speech 
that your brain thinks there is speech there for it to filter out.


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Re: OT: Covid

[John]

Google translate don't know that.

On 7/7/2021 17:38:33, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 07.07.21 um 23:15 schrieb John:


Efficace
et efficace sont de tels mots et je n'étais pas sûr de ce que vous
vouliez dire.


Efficace et effectif, je suppose.

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Re: OT: Covid

[Paul Stenquist]

> On Jul 9, 2021, at 2:31 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 7/9/2021 11:58 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> A prophecy has been passed down through the ages via twitter and Facebook. 
>> On August 15, the feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin, hundreds of 
>> thousands of believers will assemble on the National Mall. A brilliantly lit 
>> cloud will appear overhead and begin to gradually descend. The believers 
>> will fall to their knees. When the cloud has descended, a figure will emerge 
>> from the mist: the Orange God — the diseased manslut — the antithesis of a 
>> blessed virgin. The believers will chant, “MAGA, MAGA, MAGA!” The orange one 
>> will pass gas and pick his nose as the assembled masses cheer. He will then 
>> be seated in a gilded sedan chair and a dozen hairy men with american flags 
>> tattooed on their foreheads will carry the portly philanderer to the white 
>> house. Legislators and government staff will flee before the throng, 
>> recognizing that armageddon has come, and the sweat-soaked studboy will once 
>> again assume his rightful place behind the resolute desk. So it has been 
>> written, so it will be done.
> 
> That's brilliant. I bet you work in advertising.
> I've been told by many people that he developed a taste for virgins who have 
> not quite reached the age of nubility through his dear friend Jeffrey.
> 
> Is that why that particular date was chosen?

You would have to ask the seers.
> 
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Re: OT: Covid

[John]

On 7/9/2021 03:31:30, Bill wrote:

On Fri., Jul. 9, 2021, 12:07 a.m. mike wilson, 
wrote:







Yet still it is talked about.  Which is all he wants, really.



I suppose so, though I can't imagine why anyone would want to be mocked as
a fool.


It's because there's still not enough people mocking them.

And they get REALLY offended (and OFFENSIVE) when you do mock them.





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Re: OT: Covid

[Bill]

On 7/9/2021 11:58 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A prophecy has been passed down through the ages via twitter and Facebook. On 
August 15, the feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin, hundreds of 
thousands of believers will assemble on the National Mall. A brilliantly lit 
cloud will appear overhead and begin to gradually descend. The believers will 
fall to their knees. When the cloud has descended, a figure will emerge from 
the mist: the Orange God — the diseased manslut — the antithesis of a blessed 
virgin. The believers will chant, “MAGA, MAGA, MAGA!” The orange one will pass 
gas and pick his nose as the assembled masses cheer. He will then be seated in 
a gilded sedan chair and a dozen hairy men with american flags tattooed on 
their foreheads will carry the portly philanderer to the white house. 
Legislators and government staff will flee before the throng, recognizing that 
armageddon has come, and the sweat-soaked studboy will once again assume his 
rightful place behind the resolute desk. So it has been written, so it will be 
done.


That's brilliant. I bet you work in advertising.
I've been told by many people that he developed a taste for virgins who 
have not quite reached the age of nubility through his dear friend Jeffrey.


Is that why that particular date was chosen?

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Re: OT: Covid

[John]

On 7/8/2021 19:28:46, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 8 Jul 2021, at 22:39, Bill  wrote:



Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.

Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are now
tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of santa
claus.:-)

Dave



Are you sure they aren't thinking of the tracking devices we all carry
these days?
Do these shit for brains not realize that if the big bad guvmint wants to
track us,we are already willingly giving them the ability to do it?
The level of fucktardedness these morons show is really beyond belief.


I find their optimism and naivety charming and rather refreshing.

It must be nice to believe that after centuries of warfare, slaughter,
espionage and bitter hatred between our countries, our political systems and
our economics methods these great men and women, our leaders, their
assistants, civil services, militaries, media, medical, financial and legal
establishments, have finally put aside the incompetence, greed, infighting,
jealousy, personal ambition and overweening pride and egotism that have
previously been their defining characteristics in order to cooperate
selflessly and in secret to carry out the most spectacularly complex plot in
history with the greatest success imaginable so that they can secretly track
the rest of us as we go about our business of eating, sleeping, fucking,
farting, spending money on junk, and watching hours of shit on the TV all day
and all night.

Fortunately one man has cottoned on to their demonic plan and will save us,
because he selflessly has all our best interests at heart. Won’t be long now
before President Trump is at last reinstated.




It's hardly a secret that *THEY* can track any individual they find to be "of 
interest".


They don't track everyone. They don't need to. But they CAN track ANYONE.

If you somehow end up on their shit list, they can track you and they can 
backtrack you. Hell, the Panopticon was invented in the U.K.


I've read there are more surveillance cameras in London than there are in the 
whole rest of the world. Computers and data storage get cheaper every day.


How do you think they figured out who the two guys who attacked Skirpal were? 
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Re: OT: Covid

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 09.07.21 um 19:58 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

A prophecy has been passed down through the ages via twitter and Facebook. On 
August 15, the feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin, hundreds of 
thousands of believers will assemble on the National Mall.


YMMD :-)

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Re: OT: Covid

[John]

I think the voices might be real, but they're not what everyone thinks.

Sometimes when I'm having a late morning lie in, I can hear something. It's too 
indistinct to actually make out words, but it has a flavor like American morning 
drive-time radio or TV morning "News".


I think one of my neighbors may have the radio or TV on and there's some kind of 
acoustic channel that the sound reflects to my bedroom. And that's part of why I 
think it's real, because I only hear it when it's fairly quiet outside and when 
I'm laying in that one spot in my bed.


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/worlds-weirdest-echoes-where-hear-them-180963307/

I think there are more of these so called "whisper galleries" than most people 
realize.


On 7/8/2021 11:55:03, David J Brooks wrote:

On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:09 AM Bill  wrote:


My first shot was AZ, my second, which I got last Saturday was Pfizer.
Now I have to listen to Bill Gates talking in my head with a British
accent.

bill



Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.

Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are now
tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of santa
claus.:-)

Dave



On Wed., Jul. 7, 2021, 7:09 a.m. Ralf R Radermacher, 
wrote:


Am 07.07.21 um 14:06 schrieb Alan C:

Had my 2nd Pfizer jab today. Probably just in time with the Delta
variant spreading rapidly.


Had my second AZ jab last Thursday, two (2) hours before our wonderful
government decided that all people who had AZ for their first jab would
now be getting one of the mRNA vaccines as their second jab because
that's much more efficient. :-/

Ralf

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Re: OT: Covid

[John Francis]

On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 01:31:30AM -0600, Bill wrote:
> On Fri., Jul. 9, 2021, 12:07 a.m. mike wilson, 
> wrote:
> > Yet still it is talked about.  Which is all he wants, really.
> >
> 
> I suppose so, though I can't imagine why anyone would want to be mocked as
> a fool.

Because every time he gets talked about triggers another stream of donations.
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Re: OT: Covid

[Bob Pdml]

He’s a Geordie Hannibal Lecter. He eats his liver with a tin of Heinz beans and 
a nice bottle of brown ale.

> On 9 Jul 2021, at 16:20, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Gosh, for a psychotically deluded megalomaniac, you’re pretty subtle!’
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2021, at 3:43 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> 
>> You're not thinking like a psychotically deluded megalomaniac.  Which, 
>> apparently, I am
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Re: OT: Covid

[Rick Womer]

Gosh, for a psychotically deluded megalomaniac, you’re pretty subtle!’

Rick

> On Jul 9, 2021, at 3:43 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> You're not thinking like a psychotically deluded megalomaniac.  Which, 
> apparently, I am
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Re: OT: Covid

[mike wilson]

> On 09 July 2021 at 08:31 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri., Jul. 9, 2021, 12:07 a.m. mike wilson, 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > > On 09 July 2021 at 04:23 Bill  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu., Jul. 8, 2021, 5:28 p.m. Bob Pdml,  wrote:
> > >
> > > > > On 8 Jul 2021, at 22:39, Bill  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are
> > now
> > > > >> tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of
> > santa
> > > > >> claus.:-)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Dave
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you sure they aren't thinking of the tracking devices we all
> > carry
> > > > > these days?
> > > > > Do these shit for brains not realize that if the big bad guvmint
> > wants to
> > > > > track us,we are already willingly giving them the ability to do it?
> > > > > The level of fucktardedness these morons show is really beyond
> > belief.
> > > >
> > > > I find their optimism and naivety charming and rather refreshing.
> > > >
> > > > It must be nice to believe that after centuries of warfare, slaughter,
> > > > espionage and bitter hatred between our countries, our political
> > systems
> > > > and our economics methods these great men and women, our leaders, their
> > > > assistants, civil services, militaries, media, medical, financial and
> > legal
> > > > establishments, have finally put aside the incompetence, greed,
> > infighting,
> > > > jealousy, personal ambition and overweening pride and egotism that have
> > > > previously been their defining characteristics in order to cooperate
> > > > selflessly and in secret to carry out the most spectacularly complex
> > plot
> > > > in history with the greatest success imaginable so that they can
> > secretly
> > > > track the rest of us as we go about our business of eating, sleeping,
> > > > fucking, farting, spending money on junk, and watching hours of shit
> > on the
> > > > TV all day and all night.
> > > >
> > > > Fortunately one man has cottoned on to their demonic plan and will save
> > > > us, because he selflessly has all our best interests at heart. Won’t be
> > > > long now before President Trump is at last reinstated.
> > > >
> > >
> > > For sure. It was supposed to be January, then when that went by, wasn't
> > it
> > > going to be the Ides of March, then April 1st, then sometime in May, and
> > > now his neo fascist followers are thinking August.
> > > It was funny for a while, now it's just really boring.
> >
> > Yet still it is talked about.  Which is all he wants, really.
> >
> 
> I suppose so, though I can't imagine why anyone would want to be mocked as
> a fool.

You're not thinking like a psychotically deluded megalomaniac.  Which, 
apparently, I am
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Re: OT: Covid

[mike wilson]

> On 09 July 2021 at 04:23 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu., Jul. 8, 2021, 5:28 p.m. Bob Pdml,  wrote:
> 
> > > On 8 Jul 2021, at 22:39, Bill  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.
> > >>
> > >> Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are now
> > >> tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of santa
> > >> claus.:-)
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >
> > > Are you sure they aren't thinking of the tracking devices we all carry
> > > these days?
> > > Do these shit for brains not realize that if the big bad guvmint wants to
> > > track us,we are already willingly giving them the ability to do it?
> > > The level of fucktardedness these morons show is really beyond belief.
> >
> > I find their optimism and naivety charming and rather refreshing.
> >
> > It must be nice to believe that after centuries of warfare, slaughter,
> > espionage and bitter hatred between our countries, our political systems
> > and our economics methods these great men and women, our leaders, their
> > assistants, civil services, militaries, media, medical, financial and legal
> > establishments, have finally put aside the incompetence, greed, infighting,
> > jealousy, personal ambition and overweening pride and egotism that have
> > previously been their defining characteristics in order to cooperate
> > selflessly and in secret to carry out the most spectacularly complex plot
> > in history with the greatest success imaginable so that they can secretly
> > track the rest of us as we go about our business of eating, sleeping,
> > fucking, farting, spending money on junk, and watching hours of shit on the
> > TV all day and all night.
> >
> > Fortunately one man has cottoned on to their demonic plan and will save
> > us, because he selflessly has all our best interests at heart. Won’t be
> > long now before President Trump is at last reinstated.
> >
> 
> For sure. It was supposed to be January, then when that went by, wasn't it
> going to be the Ides of March, then April 1st, then sometime in May, and
> now his neo fascist followers are thinking August.
> It was funny for a while, now it's just really boring.

Yet still it is talked about.  Which is all he wants, really.
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Re: OT: Covid

[mike wilson]

> On 08 July 2021 at 22:39 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu., Jul. 8, 2021, 9:55 a.m. David J Brooks, 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:09 AM Bill  wrote:
> >
> > > My first shot was AZ, my second, which I got last Saturday was Pfizer.
> > > Now I have to listen to Bill Gates talking in my head with a British
> > > accent.
> > >
> > > bill
> > >
> >
> > Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.
> >
> > Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are now
> > tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of santa
> > claus.:-)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> 
> Are you sure they aren't thinking of the tracking devices we all carry
> these days?
> Do these shit for brains not realize that if the big bad guvmint wants to
> track us,we are already willingly giving them the ability to do it?
> The level of fucktardedness these morons show is really beyond belief.

If yuo think they are being a bit daft, just spit it out.
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Re: OT: Covid

[Bill]

On Fri., Jul. 9, 2021, 12:07 a.m. mike wilson, 
wrote:

>
> > On 09 July 2021 at 04:23 Bill  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu., Jul. 8, 2021, 5:28 p.m. Bob Pdml,  wrote:
> >
> > > > On 8 Jul 2021, at 22:39, Bill  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.
> > > >>
> > > >> Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are
> now
> > > >> tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of
> santa
> > > >> claus.:-)
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure they aren't thinking of the tracking devices we all
> carry
> > > > these days?
> > > > Do these shit for brains not realize that if the big bad guvmint
> wants to
> > > > track us,we are already willingly giving them the ability to do it?
> > > > The level of fucktardedness these morons show is really beyond
> belief.
> > >
> > > I find their optimism and naivety charming and rather refreshing.
> > >
> > > It must be nice to believe that after centuries of warfare, slaughter,
> > > espionage and bitter hatred between our countries, our political
> systems
> > > and our economics methods these great men and women, our leaders, their
> > > assistants, civil services, militaries, media, medical, financial and
> legal
> > > establishments, have finally put aside the incompetence, greed,
> infighting,
> > > jealousy, personal ambition and overweening pride and egotism that have
> > > previously been their defining characteristics in order to cooperate
> > > selflessly and in secret to carry out the most spectacularly complex
> plot
> > > in history with the greatest success imaginable so that they can
> secretly
> > > track the rest of us as we go about our business of eating, sleeping,
> > > fucking, farting, spending money on junk, and watching hours of shit
> on the
> > > TV all day and all night.
> > >
> > > Fortunately one man has cottoned on to their demonic plan and will save
> > > us, because he selflessly has all our best interests at heart. Won’t be
> > > long now before President Trump is at last reinstated.
> > >
> >
> > For sure. It was supposed to be January, then when that went by, wasn't
> it
> > going to be the Ides of March, then April 1st, then sometime in May, and
> > now his neo fascist followers are thinking August.
> > It was funny for a while, now it's just really boring.
>
> Yet still it is talked about.  Which is all he wants, really.
>

I suppose so, though I can't imagine why anyone would want to be mocked as
a fool.
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Re: OT: Covid

[Bill]

On Thu., Jul. 8, 2021, 5:28 p.m. Bob Pdml,  wrote:

> > On 8 Jul 2021, at 22:39, Bill  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.
> >>
> >> Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are now
> >> tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of santa
> >> claus.:-)
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >
> > Are you sure they aren't thinking of the tracking devices we all carry
> > these days?
> > Do these shit for brains not realize that if the big bad guvmint wants to
> > track us,we are already willingly giving them the ability to do it?
> > The level of fucktardedness these morons show is really beyond belief.
>
> I find their optimism and naivety charming and rather refreshing.
>
> It must be nice to believe that after centuries of warfare, slaughter,
> espionage and bitter hatred between our countries, our political systems
> and our economics methods these great men and women, our leaders, their
> assistants, civil services, militaries, media, medical, financial and legal
> establishments, have finally put aside the incompetence, greed, infighting,
> jealousy, personal ambition and overweening pride and egotism that have
> previously been their defining characteristics in order to cooperate
> selflessly and in secret to carry out the most spectacularly complex plot
> in history with the greatest success imaginable so that they can secretly
> track the rest of us as we go about our business of eating, sleeping,
> fucking, farting, spending money on junk, and watching hours of shit on the
> TV all day and all night.
>
> Fortunately one man has cottoned on to their demonic plan and will save
> us, because he selflessly has all our best interests at heart. Won’t be
> long now before President Trump is at last reinstated.
>

For sure. It was supposed to be January, then when that went by, wasn't it
going to be the Ides of March, then April 1st, then sometime in May, and
now his neo fascist followers are thinking August.
It was funny for a while, now it's just really boring.

>
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Re: OT: Covid

[Bob Pdml]

> On 8 Jul 2021, at 22:39, Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.
>> 
>> Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are now
>> tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of santa
>> claus.:-)
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
> 
> Are you sure they aren't thinking of the tracking devices we all carry
> these days?
> Do these shit for brains not realize that if the big bad guvmint wants to
> track us,we are already willingly giving them the ability to do it?
> The level of fucktardedness these morons show is really beyond belief.

I find their optimism and naivety charming and rather refreshing. 

It must be nice to believe that after centuries of warfare, slaughter, 
espionage and bitter hatred between our countries, our political systems and 
our economics methods these great men and women, our leaders, their assistants, 
civil services, militaries, media, medical, financial and legal establishments, 
have finally put aside the incompetence, greed, infighting, jealousy, personal 
ambition and overweening pride and egotism that have previously been their 
defining characteristics in order to cooperate selflessly and in secret to 
carry out the most spectacularly complex plot in history with the greatest 
success imaginable so that they can secretly track the rest of us as we go 
about our business of eating, sleeping, fucking, farting, spending money on 
junk, and watching hours of shit on the TV all day and all night.

Fortunately one man has cottoned on to their demonic plan and will save us, 
because he selflessly has all our best interests at heart. Won’t be long now 
before President Trump is at last reinstated.


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Re: OT: Covid

[David J Brooks]

Bill I could not have said it any better

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 5:40 PM Bill  wrote:

> On Thu., Jul. 8, 2021, 9:55 a.m. David J Brooks, 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:09 AM Bill 
> wrote:
> >
> > > My first shot was AZ, my second, which I got last Saturday was Pfizer.
> > > Now I have to listen to Bill Gates talking in my head with a British
> > > accent.
> > >
> > > bill
> > >
> >
> > Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.
> >
> > Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are now
> > tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of santa
> > claus.:-)
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Are you sure they aren't thinking of the tracking devices we all carry
> these days?
> Do these shit for brains not realize that if the big bad guvmint wants to
> track us,we are already willingly giving them the ability to do it?
> The level of fucktardedness these morons show is really beyond belief.
>
> bill
>
> >
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Re: OT: Covid

[Bill]

On Thu., Jul. 8, 2021, 9:55 a.m. David J Brooks, 
wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:09 AM Bill  wrote:
>
> > My first shot was AZ, my second, which I got last Saturday was Pfizer.
> > Now I have to listen to Bill Gates talking in my head with a British
> > accent.
> >
> > bill
> >
>
> Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.
>
> Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are now
> tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of santa
> claus.:-)
>
> Dave
>

Are you sure they aren't thinking of the tracking devices we all carry
these days?
Do these shit for brains not realize that if the big bad guvmint wants to
track us,we are already willingly giving them the ability to do it?
The level of fucktardedness these morons show is really beyond belief.

bill

>
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Re: OT: Covid

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:09 AM Bill  wrote:

> My first shot was AZ, my second, which I got last Saturday was Pfizer.
> Now I have to listen to Bill Gates talking in my head with a British
> accent.
>
> bill
>

Got both Pfizer shots and wi fi is super fast now.

Saw on one of those tinfoil hat sites the other day that they are now
tracking us awake and even asleep, I think they are thinking of santa
claus.:-)

Dave

>
> On Wed., Jul. 7, 2021, 7:09 a.m. Ralf R Radermacher, 
> wrote:
>
> > Am 07.07.21 um 14:06 schrieb Alan C:
> > > Had my 2nd Pfizer jab today. Probably just in time with the Delta
> > > variant spreading rapidly.
> >
> > Had my second AZ jab last Thursday, two (2) hours before our wonderful
> > government decided that all people who had AZ for their first jab would
> > now be getting one of the mRNA vaccines as their second jab because
> > that's much more efficient. :-/
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> > --
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Re: OT: Covid

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Что ты говоришь?

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Re: OT: Covid

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On Jul 7, 2021, at 08:09, Bill  wrote:
> 
> My first shot was AZ, my second, which I got last Saturday was Pfizer.
> Now I have to listen to Bill Gates talking in my head with a British accent.

Both mine were Moderna in January and February, so the voices in my head are 
just those which have been there all the time.

The French drink wine the English tay
The Yankee gulps his hot black coffee
A child drinks milk ten times a day
The Scotsman sips his whisky toddy

Keep yer wine and keep yer tay
Be cursed him who brings me coffee!
I'll have porter if I may
It makes me feel content and happy

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Re: OT: Covid

[Nolan Hinshaw]

On Jul 7, 2021, at 12:55, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 07.07.21 um 21:35 schrieb John:
> 
>> More efficient or more effective?
> 
> More effective, I suppose. But you're welcome to continue this
> discussion with me in French, Dutch oder German. Your call.

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Re: OT: Covid

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 07.07.21 um 23:15 schrieb John:


Efficace
et efficace sont de tels mots et je n'étais pas sûr de ce que vous
vouliez dire.


Efficace et effectif, je suppose.

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Re: OT: Covid

[John]

On 7/7/2021 15:55:03, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 07.07.21 um 21:35 schrieb John:


More efficient or more effective?


More effective, I suppose. But you're welcome to continue this
discussion with me in French, Dutch oder German. Your call.

Ralf



Je m'excuse. Je ne voulais pas offenser. Parfois, l'anglais a des mots qui se 
ressemblent mais qui signifient des choses différentes. Efficace et efficace 
sont de tels mots et je n'étais pas sûr de ce que vous vouliez dire.



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Re: OT: Covid

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 07.07.21 um 21:35 schrieb John:


More efficient or more effective?


More effective, I suppose. But you're welcome to continue this
discussion with me in French, Dutch oder German. Your call.

Ralf

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Re: OT: Covid

[John]

Hyping Windoze 11 and M$ Orifice.

On 7/7/2021 11:12:06, Bob Pdml wrote:

Is he telling you to kill again?


On 7 Jul 2021, at 16:09, Bill  wrote:

My first shot was AZ, my second, which I got last Saturday was Pfizer.
Now I have to listen to Bill Gates talking in my head with a British accent.

bill

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Re: OT: Covid

[John]

On 7/7/2021 09:09:19, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 07.07.21 um 14:06 schrieb Alan C:

Had my 2nd Pfizer jab today. Probably just in time with the Delta
variant spreading rapidly.


Had my second AZ jab last Thursday, two (2) hours before our wonderful
government decided that all people who had AZ for their first jab would
now be getting one of the mRNA vaccines as their second jab because
that's much more efficient. :-/

Ralf

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More efficient or more effective?

If it's just more efficient, that's "Yeah, yea ... whatever."

But if it's more effective, do they have a plan for those who already got a 
second shot with the AZ vaccine?


Maybe a third jab with Pfizer or Moderna?


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Re: OT: Covid

[Jaume Lahuerta]

En miércoles, 7 de julio de 2021 15:09:27 CEST, Ralf R Radermacher 
 escribió: 

>Had my second AZ jab last Thursday, two (2) hours before our wonderful
>government decided that all people who had AZ for their first jab would
>now be getting one of the mRNA vaccines as their second jab because
>that's much more efficient. :-/

In Spain we also had a mess with AZ, age groups and 2nd dose.
They ended up giving it to a narrow group of population (60 to 65 y/o) and 
those younger already jabbed could chose their second one. Most people chose AZ 
over Pfizer, that was NOT the government preference.
I got 2n Pfizer 3 weeks ago. Cases are growing very quickly for the last 2 
weeks but this time they affect mainly to <30's thanks to vaccination, so 
hospitals are not as impacted this time.

Regards,
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Re: OT: Covid

[Bob Pdml]

Is he telling you to kill again? 

> On 7 Jul 2021, at 16:09, Bill  wrote:
> 
> My first shot was AZ, my second, which I got last Saturday was Pfizer.
> Now I have to listen to Bill Gates talking in my head with a British accent.
> 
> bill
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Re: OT: Covid

[Bill]

My first shot was AZ, my second, which I got last Saturday was Pfizer.
Now I have to listen to Bill Gates talking in my head with a British accent.

bill

On Wed., Jul. 7, 2021, 7:09 a.m. Ralf R Radermacher, 
wrote:

> Am 07.07.21 um 14:06 schrieb Alan C:
> > Had my 2nd Pfizer jab today. Probably just in time with the Delta
> > variant spreading rapidly.
>
> Had my second AZ jab last Thursday, two (2) hours before our wonderful
> government decided that all people who had AZ for their first jab would
> now be getting one of the mRNA vaccines as their second jab because
> that's much more efficient. :-/
>
> Ralf
>
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Re: OT: Covid

[Bob Pdml]

they'll save you one for your booster

> On 7 Jul 2021, at 14:09, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 07.07.21 um 14:06 schrieb Alan C:
>> Had my 2nd Pfizer jab today. Probably just in time with the Delta
>> variant spreading rapidly.
> 
> Had my second AZ jab last Thursday, two (2) hours before our wonderful
> government decided that all people who had AZ for their first jab would
> now be getting one of the mRNA vaccines as their second jab because
> that's much more efficient. :-/
> 
> Ralf
> 
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[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 07.07.21 um 14:06 schrieb Alan C:

Had my 2nd Pfizer jab today. Probably just in time with the Delta
variant spreading rapidly.


Had my second AZ jab last Thursday, two (2) hours before our wonderful
government decided that all people who had AZ for their first jab would
now be getting one of the mRNA vaccines as their second jab because
that's much more efficient. :-/

Ralf

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[Alan C]

Had my 2nd Pfizer jab today. Probably just in time with the Delta 
variant spreading rapidly.


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Re: OT: Covid

[David J Brooks]

Peter, A friend of my wife's got it back in March 2020 and it almost killed
her so its nothing to slough off.

Dave

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 9:20 PM P. J. Alling 
wrote:

> Thanks Dave, like I said it wasn't horrible, I barely knew I was sick
> before the diagnosis, but knowing it could have killed me was a bit
> sobering.
>
> I didn't have any of the now classic symptoms, I was just immensely tired.
>
> One of my doctors put me on a new Medication and had just increased the
> dosage,  and being tired, was one of the possible side effects, so
> didn't worry too much.
>
> Then individual who exposed me, called to tell me they had tested positive.
>
> So I got tested, and got the results back at the two week mark, just as
> I was recovering and no longer contagious.
>
> On 6/2/2021 8:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > Glad you managed to weather that storm Peter
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:21 PM P. J. Alling 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I actually had Covid about four weeks ago.  It could have killed me,
> >> with my underlying condition, but, actually wasn't that bad, not that
> >> I'd recommend getting it  as a way to gain immunity.
> >>
> >> On 5/31/2021 10:32 AM, Alan C wrote:
> >>> Ann & I have had our first Pfizer jabs. No.2 in 6 weeks.
> >>>
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[ann sanfedele]

Glad you are ok, P.J.  and only got very tired..  much less scary than 
having trouble breathing or losing one's sense of taste and smell..


ann

On 6/2/2021 9:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Thanks Dave, like I said it wasn't horrible, I barely knew I was sick 
before the diagnosis, but knowing it could have killed me was a bit 
sobering.


I didn't have any of the now classic symptoms, I was just immensely 
tired.


One of my doctors put me on a new Medication and had just increased 
the dosage,  and being tired, was one of the possible side effects, so 
didn't worry too much.


Then individual who exposed me, called to tell me they had tested 
positive.


So I got tested, and got the results back at the two week mark, just 
as I was recovering and no longer contagious.


On 6/2/2021 8:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Glad you managed to weather that storm Peter

Dave

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:21 PM P. J. Alling 
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I actually had Covid about four weeks ago.  It could have killed me,
with my underlying condition, but, actually wasn't that bad, not that
I'd recommend getting it  as a way to gain immunity.

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[P. J. Alling]

Thanks Dave, like I said it wasn't horrible, I barely knew I was sick 
before the diagnosis, but knowing it could have killed me was a bit 
sobering.


I didn't have any of the now classic symptoms, I was just immensely tired.

One of my doctors put me on a new Medication and had just increased the 
dosage,  and being tired, was one of the possible side effects, so 
didn't worry too much.


Then individual who exposed me, called to tell me they had tested positive.

So I got tested, and got the results back at the two week mark, just as 
I was recovering and no longer contagious.


On 6/2/2021 8:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Glad you managed to weather that storm Peter

Dave

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:21 PM P. J. Alling 
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I actually had Covid about four weeks ago.  It could have killed me,
with my underlying condition, but, actually wasn't that bad, not that
I'd recommend getting it  as a way to gain immunity.

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Glad you managed to weather that storm Peter

Dave

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> with my underlying condition, but, actually wasn't that bad, not that
> I'd recommend getting it  as a way to gain immunity.
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I actually had Covid about four weeks ago.  It could have killed me, 
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I'd recommend getting it  as a way to gain immunity.


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On 5/31/2021 12:26 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 12:08 PM Larry Colen  wrote:






My understanding is that 4 weeks is the minimum in order to get maximum
effectiveness, but if countries are prioritizing getting more people
partially vaccinated, they may delay the second shot to have higher overall
resistance.  i.e. two people at 70% is more effective overall than one at
90%.



Thats what is happening up here.



It seems to work. Where I am, we were practically the North American hot 
spot 3 months ago. The powers that be started shifting vaccinations to 
my city in mid March, and not things have started to settle down quite 
nicely.
They took a bunch of restrictions off today, restaurants can now offer 
increased seating, indoor gatherings can now be as many as 10 people 
(last week indoor gatherings were whoever lives there, that's it), etc. 
We now have enough people vaccinated that in a few weeks they will be 
lifting more restrictions, and with luck, by mid July we might actually 
be able to have something of a normal life again.


I'm able to book my second shot in a week, or possibly sooner.

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[Alan C]

Quite true. They have doubled the interval in SA so more over 60's can 
get their 1st shot before any 2nd shots are administered. Things have 
taken months to get moving at all.


Alan C

On 31-May-21 07:34 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

As others have said, the interval seems to be as much about supply and 
supply-chain logistics as anything. Our relatively plentiful supply of vaccines 
was, in our state and most others, parceled out on a priority basis where the 
most vulnerable (oldest and those with other health issues) and health-care 
workers were at the head of the list, then moving to younger, less vulnerable… 
Meg got her first jab in late January and her second 3 weeks later; I got mine 
Feb 8 and March 8. Why hers was a 3 week interval, mine a 4 week interval is a 
mystery but that is the way they scheduled us.

Stan


On May 31, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

On 31 May 2021, at 17:15, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

Am 31.05.21 um 17:47 schrieb David J Brooks:


I have to wait till July 26th for my 2nd

I'll have my second AZ shot on July 1. We still have no idea when it
will be Michaels's turn. They're prioritizing all kinds of essential
professions, e.g. bayliffs... :-/

Ralf

That’s a terrible way to do it. It should be based on clinical need, and 
nothing else.

I had mine on 13 Feb and 24 April, ie 10 weeks apart. Over here they’re 
narrowing the gap to try and get ahead of the so-called Indian variant.


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On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 12:08 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> My understanding is that 4 weeks is the minimum in order to get maximum
> effectiveness, but if countries are prioritizing getting more people
> partially vaccinated, they may delay the second shot to have higher overall
> resistance.  i.e. two people at 70% is more effective overall than one at
> 90%.
>

Thats what is happening up here.

Dave

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As others have said, the interval seems to be as much about supply and 
supply-chain logistics as anything. Our relatively plentiful supply of vaccines 
was, in our state and most others, parceled out on a priority basis where the 
most vulnerable (oldest and those with other health issues) and health-care 
workers were at the head of the list, then moving to younger, less vulnerable… 
Meg got her first jab in late January and her second 3 weeks later; I got mine 
Feb 8 and March 8. Why hers was a 3 week interval, mine a 4 week interval is a 
mystery but that is the way they scheduled us.

Stan

> On May 31, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> On 31 May 2021, at 17:15, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 31.05.21 um 17:47 schrieb David J Brooks:
>> 
>>> I have to wait till July 26th for my 2nd
>> 
>> I'll have my second AZ shot on July 1. We still have no idea when it
>> will be Michaels's turn. They're prioritizing all kinds of essential
>> professions, e.g. bayliffs... :-/
>> 
>> Ralf
> 
> That’s a terrible way to do it. It should be based on clinical need, and 
> nothing else.
> 
> I had mine on 13 Feb and 24 April, ie 10 weeks apart. Over here they’re 
> narrowing the gap to try and get ahead of the so-called Indian variant.
> 
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[John]

I read somewhere that as they developed the process some logistical problems 
cropped up causing delays for some people getting the second dose, but *they* 
found out the 3 week period between doses was not critical; that if for some 
reason the second shot was delayed it was still likely to be effective.


And in some cases maybe more effective because the immune system had longer to 
work on the first dose.


The most important part seems to be just getting vaccinated with the timing of 
the two doses not being a BIG problem. Plus, haven't some single dose vaccines 
been approved now?


Note that I am not a medical professional and this is just the way I understand 
it from reading the newz.


On 5/31/2021 12:05:45, ann sanfedele wrote:

ann had her 2nd on Marcy 29th.. oh.. you mean YOUR ann :-)

wonder what the descrepancies in 1st to second shot gaps is due to across the 
globe, even across cities in one's own country...

MIne was 4 weeks after the first..

ann in nyc



On 5/31/2021 10:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Ann & I have had our first Pfizer jabs. No.2 in 6 weeks.

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[Steve Cottrell]

Had my first Ox/AZ 12 weeks ago and 2nd is tomorrow!

Cot


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Ann & I have had our first Pfizer jabs. No.2 in 6 weeks.

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[lrc]

Is Bulent still around?  I'd love to hear his take. 

On May 31, 2021 9:52:22 AM PDT, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>On 31 May 2021, at 17:15, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 31.05.21 um 17:47 schrieb David J Brooks:
>> 
>>> I have to wait till July 26th for my 2nd
>> 
>> I'll have my second AZ shot on July 1. We still have no idea when it
>> will be Michaels's turn. They're prioritizing all kinds of essential
>> professions, e.g. bayliffs... :-/
>> 
>> Ralf
>
>That’s a terrible way to do it. It should be based on clinical need,
>and nothing else.
>
>I had mine on 13 Feb and 24 April, ie 10 weeks apart. Over here they’re
>narrowing the gap to try and get ahead of the so-called Indian variant.
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On 31 May 2021, at 17:15, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
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> Am 31.05.21 um 17:47 schrieb David J Brooks:
> 
>> I have to wait till July 26th for my 2nd
> 
> I'll have my second AZ shot on July 1. We still have no idea when it
> will be Michaels's turn. They're prioritizing all kinds of essential
> professions, e.g. bayliffs... :-/
> 
> Ralf

That’s a terrible way to do it. It should be based on clinical need, and 
nothing else.

I had mine on 13 Feb and 24 April, ie 10 weeks apart. Over here they’re 
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[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 31.05.21 um 17:47 schrieb David J Brooks:


I have to wait till July 26th for my 2nd


I'll have my second AZ shot on July 1. We still have no idea when it
will be Michaels's turn. They're prioritizing all kinds of essential
professions, e.g. bayliffs... :-/

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> On May 31, 2021, at 9:05 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> ann had her 2nd on Marcy 29th.. oh.. you mean YOUR ann :-)
> 
> wonder what the descrepancies in 1st to second shot gaps is due to across the 
> globe, even across cities in one's own country...
> MIne was 4 weeks after the first..

My understanding is that 4 weeks is the minimum in order to get maximum 
effectiveness, but if countries are prioritizing getting more people partially 
vaccinated, they may delay the second shot to have higher overall resistance.  
i.e. two people at 70% is more effective overall than one at 90%.

> 
> ann in nyc
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/31/2021 10:32 AM, Alan C wrote:
>> Ann & I have had our first Pfizer jabs. No.2 in 6 weeks.
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ann had her 2nd on Marcy 29th.. oh.. you mean YOUR ann :-)

wonder what the descrepancies in 1st to second shot gaps is due to 
across the globe, even across cities in one's own country...

MIne was 4 weeks after the first..

ann in nyc



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Nice

I have to wait till July 26th for my 2nd

Dave

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Ann & I have had our first Pfizer jabs. No.2 in 6 weeks.

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[Daniel J. Matyola]

We received our second Moderna shots Wednesday.  I had no reaction, other
than mild pain right at the injection site for 24 hrs and a general feeling
of slight fatigue.  My wife, who is a year younger, had strong headaches
and fever the day after and pain and stiffness in her entire arm for three
days now.

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> Still one week to go before having my first Pfizer. Have to drive 55 km
> to the vaccination location.
> Silly organization: my wife doesn't yet get it because she is one and a
> half year younger than me. This means we have to go there 4 times.
>
> AstraZeneca is not vaccinated here to people above 65 year.
>
> Henk
>
> Op 2021-03-18 om 20:10 schreef Bill:
> > Well folks, I've had my first dose of AstraZeneca, and I feel fine.
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[David J Brooks]

still waiting for my age group up here. So,e care giver friends have had
the jab and report no or mild effects for 12-24 hours

Dave

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> I think it's been a little over a month now since I got the second dose of
> Pfizer vaccine. I had a slight soreness at the injection site the day
> after.
>
> This week I had a day of super tiredness, such that I took several naps &
> spent
> most of the day in bed. Don't know if that was related or not, but it was
> only
> the one day.
>
> Most of what I've heard/read suggests the stronger reactions come for
> younger
> people. I've seen speculation the stronger reaction is caused by them
> having
> stronger immune systems.
>
> I dunno. I'm just glad it didn't cause me more pain.
>
> On 3/18/2021 21:58:53, John Francis wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 01:10:13PM -0600, Bill wrote:
> >> Well folks, I've had my first dose of AstraZeneca, and I feel fine.
> >
> >
> > Just got my second dose (Pfizer) today.  So far no significant reaction.
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I think it's been a little over a month now since I got the second dose of 
Pfizer vaccine. I had a slight soreness at the injection site the day after.


This week I had a day of super tiredness, such that I took several naps & spent 
most of the day in bed. Don't know if that was related or not, but it was only 
the one day.


Most of what I've heard/read suggests the stronger reactions come for younger 
people. I've seen speculation the stronger reaction is caused by them having 
stronger immune systems.


I dunno. I'm just glad it didn't cause me more pain.

On 3/18/2021 21:58:53, John Francis wrote:

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 01:10:13PM -0600, Bill wrote:

Well folks, I've had my first dose of AstraZeneca, and I feel fine.
  


Just got my second dose (Pfizer) today.  So far no significant reaction.
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On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 01:10:13PM -0600, Bill wrote:
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Just got my second dose (Pfizer) today.  So far no significant reaction.
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Give it about 12 hours.
> On 18 March 2021 at 19:10 Bill  wrote:
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second shot, but those reactions from people I know weren’t extreme.


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[Stanley Halpin]

Thanks Rick, I saw that also. There have been a few long-covid articles 
scattered around lately but few have much real information. Because of course 
just not enough is known. I just could not grasp a connection between the 
crutches and her ongoing long-covid thing, just really weird!

stan

> Stan,
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> There was an item in the NY Times today that the symptoms of “long COVID” 
> improve in about 40% of sufferers after the second jab—including getting back 
> long-absent taste and smell. 
> 
> What a weird disease.
> 
> Rick

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 5:32 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
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> Give it about 12 hours.
>> On 18 March 2021 at 19:10 Bill  wrote:
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>> 
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Stan,

There was an item in the NY Times today that the symptoms of “long COVID” 
improve in about 40% of sufferers after the second jab—including getting back 
long-absent taste and smell. 

What a weird disease.

Rick

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve had the two Moderna shots, sore arm but no big deal. A bit sorer after 
> the 2nd shot. Meg had the two Pfizer shots, same sort of mild reaction.
> 
> On the other hand, our niece was exposed last November, tested positive 
> herself, quarantine, self medication at home. Never any need to go to the 
> hospital. But she is one of the unlucky long-covid patients, still suffering 
> today with severe joint pain (now using crutches due to knee issues), 
> breathing issues, fatigue, partial loss of taste and smell, things that used 
> to small good now are quite off-putting… 
> 
> In short, I would opt for minor reactions to the shots any day in preference 
> to catching even a relatively mild case of the disease. It can be nasty for a 
> long time.
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve heard that if there’s going to be a reaction it’s most likely with the 
>> second shot, but those reactions from people I know weren’t extreme.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
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[Henk Terhell]

Still one week to go before having my first Pfizer. Have to drive 55 km 
to the vaccination location.
Silly organization: my wife doesn't yet get it because she is one and a 
half year younger than me. This means we have to go there 4 times.


AstraZeneca is not vaccinated here to people above 65 year.

Henk

Op 2021-03-18 om 20:10 schreef Bill:

Well folks, I've had my first dose of AstraZeneca, and I feel fine.


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[ann sanfedele]

I had first shot of the Pfizer about two weeks ago .. sore arm appeared 
a few hours later - very very tired for a couple of days but, alas, now 
I still have headaches..
I don't usually get headaches but have had several since the shot. I 
also had had a severe reaction to a drug for tacking osteoporosis two 
years ago and headaches were part of it.
 I stopped taking the med then and the headaches and other troubles 
passed.. but I was pretty miserable or a while.
 I guess I have to expect to be miserable afte second shot of Pfizer... 
but maybe not.  Makes me wonder if it is possible there is something in 
the vaccine for Covid has an ingredient that is also in Fosamax, 
though.  Getting second shot March 29th - whatever occurs, it has to be 
better than Covid-19.


ann


On 3/18/2021 5:32 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Give it about 12 hours.

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I had my second Moderna shot yesterday.
All I have is some soreness around the puncture site.  My wife, however,
has a much stronger reaction;  Severe muscle soreness and stiffness in
the entire arm, fatigue, and a moderate fever.

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I've had both shots of the Pfizer vaccine.  Just a sore arm after the 
first one, a little more reaction after the second - about 24 hours 
after the shot I had some moderate tiredness and body aches.  Reaction 
lasted almost 12 hours - not problems since.


-p

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I’ve had the two Moderna shots, sore arm but no big deal. A bit sorer after the 
2nd shot. Meg had the two Pfizer shots, same sort of mild reaction.

On the other hand, our niece was exposed last November, tested positive 
herself, quarantine, self medication at home. Never any need to go to the 
hospital. But she is one of the unlucky long-covid patients, still suffering 
today with severe joint pain (now using crutches due to knee issues), breathing 
issues, fatigue, partial loss of taste and smell, things that used to small 
good now are quite off-putting… 

In short, I would opt for minor reactions to the shots any day in preference to 
catching even a relatively mild case of the disease. It can be nasty for a long 
time.

stan

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
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> I’ve heard that if there’s going to be a reaction it’s most likely with the 
> second shot, but those reactions from people I know weren’t extreme.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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Well folks, I've had my first dose of AstraZeneca, and I feel fine.


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[Bill]

AZ is having no invitation poke parties all week about a mile from where 
I live. Today was for people in my age group. I think I would have had 
to line up about 6:00am to get in. I just drove past and it looks like 
about 4000 cars in the staging area and traffic backed up a mile on 
either side.

I'll wait for another day.

bill


On 3/16/2021 12:11 PM, John wrote:

Seems like it's coming along ...

I just got an email from the VA in Durham that it's now open for ALL 
enrolled veterans, so it looks like it's now reached the "everybody else 
who hasn't been vaccinated yet" stage.


Which, in turn, suggests that if you haven't gotten yours yet, you 
should soon be able to.


I was in the THIRD cohort for the VA in Durham (70+ & "conditions"), and 
have had both of my shots. It's been a month since the second one.


I've also started to get emails from people in the folk music group I 
used to play with wanting to know when we're going to get back together, 
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Seems like it's coming along ...

I just got an email from the VA in Durham that it's now open for ALL enrolled 
veterans, so it looks like it's now reached the "everybody else who hasn't been 
vaccinated yet" stage.


Which, in turn, suggests that if you haven't gotten yours yet, you should soon 
be able to.


I was in the THIRD cohort for the VA in Durham (70+ & "conditions"), and have 
had both of my shots. It's been a month since the second one.


I've also started to get emails from people in the folk music group I used to 
play with wanting to know when we're going to get back together, so I expect a 
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On Tue., Sep. 8, 2020, 2:07 p.m. Ralf R Radermacher, 
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> The chairman of Cologne's Carnival Committee is strongly advising
> against calling off the 2021 Carnival because of Covid.
>
> IRL, he is the owner of the town's biggest funeral service. Make of that
> what you will.
>

Someone has a rather severe conflict of interest combined with the
conscience of a snake.

bill

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[Ralf R Radermacher]

The chairman of Cologne's Carnival Committee is strongly advising
against calling off the 2021 Carnival because of Covid.

IRL, he is the owner of the town's biggest funeral service. Make of that
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Good to know that you and Ms. Ashley are doing fine.

And, please let me MARK! this:

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> Great to hear from you too, Jan..  I also have been mainly 'off list"
> there seems to be less time than usual in these circumstances..
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> On 5/8/2020 8:24 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote:
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> > Great to hear you are doing fine in these troublesome times!
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> > On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:36:03 -0400 ann sanfedele wrote:
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> >> pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a week 
> >> which is
> > nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.
> >> Just wanted to pop in and say hello
> > And a warm hello back from the Netherlands!
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Great to hear from you too, Jan..  I also have been mainly 'off list"  
there seems to be less time than usual in these circumstances..


ann

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Hi Ann!

Great to hear you are doing fine in these troublesome times!

I'm not even lurking the PDML often enough now to keep up waith all tghe 
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:36:03 -0400 ann sanfedele wrote:

Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet and 
pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a week which 
is

nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.

Just wanted to pop in and say hello

And a warm hello back from the Netherlands!

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Hi Ann!

Great to hear you are doing fine in these troublesome times!

I'm not even lurking the PDML often enough now to keep up waith all tghe 
messages ;-)

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:36:03 -0400 ann sanfedele wrote:
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>Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet and 
>pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a week which 
>is 
nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.
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>Just wanted to pop in and say hello

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Thanks for worrying about me :-) all of youse  ..

I shall return - in fact, I jsut did return for a favor..

Ralf - eventually you'll see the office :-)

ann

On 4/21/2020 12:30 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 21.04.20 um 01:36 schrieb ann sanfedele:


Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.


Thank heavens for that. I was just about to start an enquiry as to your
well-being.

Zenobe and Leopold are sending their best wishes to you and Ashley.

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Good to hear from you Ann.  We all miss you when you are not active here.
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> Guys and girls, forgive me for being in lurk mode - I am looking at
> Peso;s and reading bits and pieces but not up to comments or sending
> PEso;s right now
> Kinda feel the need to do more AFK stuff.. occasional appearances on Fb
> ecause I have two friends I play WORDS With FRIENDS with I need to cling
> to.
>
> Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet
> and pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a
> week which is nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.
>
> Just wanted to pop in and say hello
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On April 20, 2020 4:36:03 PM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>Guys and girls, forgive me for being in lurk mode - I am looking at 
>Peso;s and reading bits and pieces but not up to comments or sending 
>PEso;s right now
>Kinda feel the need to do more AFK stuff.. occasional appearances on Fb
>
>ecause I have two friends I play WORDS With FRIENDS with I need to
>cling to.
>
>Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet 
>and pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a
>
>week which is nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.
>
>Just wanted to pop in and say hello

It's good to hear from you and that you're doing well.
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Am 21.04.20 um 01:36 schrieb ann sanfedele:


Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.


Thank heavens for that. I was just about to start an enquiry as to your
well-being.

Zenobe and Leopold are sending their best wishes to you and Ashley.

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Re: OT - Covid life in NYC

[John]

Well, Hello yourself.

Glad to hear that you're (so far) successfully weathering the storm.

Tell Ashley I said hello too.


On 4/20/2020 19:36:03, ann sanfedele wrote:
Guys and girls, forgive me for being in lurk mode - I am looking at Peso;s and 
reading bits and pieces but not up to comments or sending PEso;s right now
Kinda feel the need to do more AFK stuff.. occasional appearances on Fb ecause I 
have two friends I play WORDS With FRIENDS with I need to cling to.


Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet and pretty 
much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a week which is nicer 
than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.


Just wanted to pop in and say hello

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Glad you are making it through all this Ann

Dave

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:24 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> Hi Ann!
>
> I was thinking of you today, didn't get to making a call yet. I'm glad to
> hear you and Ashley are doing okay!
> Will try to call and chat soon. :-)
>
> Be well, stay sane, keep on going…
>
> G
> —
> No matter where you go, there you are.
>
>
> > On Apr 20, 2020, at 4:36 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >
> > Guys and girls, forgive me for being in lurk mode - I am looking at
> Peso;s and reading bits and pieces but not up to comments or sending PEso;s
> right now
> > Kinda feel the need to do more AFK stuff.. occasional appearances on Fb
> ecause I have two friends I play WORDS With FRIENDS with I need to cling to.
> >
> > Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet
> and pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a
> week which is nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.
> >
> > Just wanted to pop in and say hello
> >
> > ann
>
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[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hi Ann! 

I was thinking of you today, didn't get to making a call yet. I'm glad to hear 
you and Ashley are doing okay! 
Will try to call and chat soon. :-)

Be well, stay sane, keep on going…

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> On Apr 20, 2020, at 4:36 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Guys and girls, forgive me for being in lurk mode - I am looking at Peso;s 
> and reading bits and pieces but not up to comments or sending PEso;s right now
> Kinda feel the need to do more AFK stuff.. occasional appearances on Fb 
> ecause I have two friends I play WORDS With FRIENDS with I need to cling to.
> 
> Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet and 
> pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a week 
> which is nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.
> 
> Just wanted to pop in and say hello
> 
> ann


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OT - Covid life in NYC

[ann sanfedele]

Guys and girls, forgive me for being in lurk mode - I am looking at 
Peso;s and reading bits and pieces but not up to comments or sending 
PEso;s right now
Kinda feel the need to do more AFK stuff.. occasional appearances on Fb 
ecause I have two friends I play WORDS With FRIENDS with I need to cling to.


Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet 
and pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a 
week which is nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.


Just wanted to pop in and say hello

ann

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 4:17 PM Ken Waller  wrote:

> Just got word that a friend who was ailing and tested positive last week
> is on the mend. He had all the usual symptoms - cough, fatigue, fever and
> also loss of taste and smell - and is feeling much better today. He started
> to feel ill about 9 days ago.  He’s in his late fifties and is in otherwise
> good health.
>
> Tunnel ? Light ?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: Ken Waller  >Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem!
> >
> >Good to hear Paul.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-
> >>From: Paul Stenquist 
> >>Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem!
> >>
> >>Thanks all. I do have ugly old, but I meant to say I have an ugly cold,
> Much better today.
> >>
> >>Paul
> >>
> >>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ditto
> >>>
> >>> Alan C
> >>>
> >>>> On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote:
> >>>> Glad to hear that, Paul.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >>>>> Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old.
>
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Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem!

[Ken Waller]

Just got word that a friend who was ailing and tested positive last week is on 
the mend. He had all the usual symptoms - cough, fatigue, fever and also loss 
of taste and smell - and is feeling much better today. He started to feel ill 
about 9 days ago.  He’s in his late fifties and is in otherwise good health.

Tunnel ? Light ?


-Original Message-
>From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem!
>
>Good to hear Paul.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>>From: Paul Stenquist 
>>Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem!
>>
>>Thanks all. I do have ugly old, but I meant to say I have an ugly cold, Much 
>>better today.
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ditto
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
>>>> On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote:
>>>> Glad to hear that, Paul.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>>> Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old.


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[John]

Mainly, it's just that I've got all the 1099-Rs collected together & I want to 
get it done before I misplace them again.


On 3/22/2020 16:27:31, Stanley Halpin wrote:

John - the tax filing deadline was extended 3 months. No rush, unless you are
expecting a refund.

I filed mine about a month ago, received my refund within about 10 days. At
the same time I sent in an Amended filing for last year (i.e., 2018 tax
year), that goes to an office in Northern California, and it may be months if
ever before I see that resolved.

Stan


On Mar 22, 2020, at 3:39 PM, John  wrote:

I wonder how long it lasts on paper? I still need to take my tax forms to
the Credit Union to get my taxes filed. Wish I'd got all the forms together
in January and got it over with before the sh**-storm started to come
down.

Maybe if I'm still alive next year I'll remember not to procrastinate. (If
I'm not still alive next year it's somebody else's problem, so I'm not
going to worry about that now.)

Will microwaves kill the virus? Maybe I should nuke my 1099-Rs before I
take them in? I'll have to call them tomorrow & see how they're handling
taxes now.

I note that the Coronavirus pneumonia dry cough w/o runny nose is the same
as my early seasonal allergies cough ... the runny nose & watering eyes
come later.

I guess I'll have them in about two weeks.








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[Ken Waller]

Good to hear Paul.


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem!
>
>Thanks all. I do have ugly old, but I meant to say I have an ugly cold, Much 
>better today.
>
>Paul
>
>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>> 
>> Ditto
>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>>> On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote:
>>> Glad to hear that, Paul.
>>> 
>>>> On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>> Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks all. I do have ugly old, but I meant to say I have an ugly cold, Much 
better today.

Paul

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Ditto
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote:
>> Glad to hear that, Paul.
>> 
>>> On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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[Alan C]

Ditto

Alan C

On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote:

Glad to hear that, Paul.

On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old.








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[Bill]

On 3/22/2020 2:11 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
You had an ugly old for a long time... glad you only have an ugly COLD 
now..

xoxo
ann


HAR!!.
Paul, keep getting better.

bill




On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old.


On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:


I’ve been sick for 10 days now and was tested a week ago. Still no 
results but I did go through a few days of not really wanting to eat, 
although I didn’t have any stomach issues. The hospital has said I 
don’t have the flu.






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[Stanley Halpin]

John - the tax filing deadline was extended 3 months. No rush, unless you are 
expecting a refund.

I filed mine about a month ago, received my refund within about 10 days. At the 
same time I sent in an Amended filing for last year (i.e., 2018 tax year), that 
goes to an office in Northern California, and it may be months if ever before I 
see that resolved.

Stan

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 3:39 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> I wonder how long it lasts on paper? I still need to take my tax forms to the 
> Credit Union to get my taxes filed. Wish I'd got all the forms together in 
> January and got it over with before the sh**-storm started to come down.
> 
> Maybe if I'm still alive next year I'll remember not to procrastinate. (If 
> I'm not still alive next year it's somebody else's problem, so I'm not going 
> to worry about that now.)
> 
> Will microwaves kill the virus? Maybe I should nuke my 1099-Rs before I take 
> them in? I'll have to call them tomorrow & see how they're handling taxes now.
> 
> I note that the Coronavirus pneumonia dry cough w/o runny nose is the same as 
> my early seasonal allergies cough ... the runny nose & watering eyes come 
> later.
> 
> I guess I'll have them in about two weeks.
> 


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[ann sanfedele]

You had an ugly old for a long time... glad you only have an ugly COLD now..
xoxo
ann

On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old.



On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

I’ve been sick for 10 days now and was tested a week ago. Still no results but 
I did go through a few days of not really wanting to eat, although I didn’t 
have any stomach issues. The hospital has said I don’t have the flu.

Paul


On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:49 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


Rick -
What do you know about this:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-experts-say-new-symptoms-could-be-loss-taste-or-smell-11961439

I have two friends who are sick and experiencing the lack of sense of taste and 
smell - both reported to me in conversation without
any prompting as it were from outside sources... then confirmed by a doc in 
once case.


On 3/22/2020 10:10 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
Mike, much of this information is wrong. Since most of my patients (children 
with cancer) are immunosuppressed, I’ve been following this closely, and our 
hospital is providing daily briefings.

First, fibrosis is scarring, and that takes a long time. It is inflammation 
that causes the problems with COVID-19, or any other pneumonia. Inflammation 
usually clears without scarring.

#3: Not true. Note that equatorial areas are seeing plenty of COVID-19; it’s 
just “bhind the curve” compared to China, Europe, and the US.

#4: The fine droplets from a cough or sneeze take a half-hour to reach the 
floor, in still air.

#5: Make that 2-3 days on metal.

#7: No evidence that I have ever seen or heard of.

#8: Hand washing with soap is the best preventive measure for almost any 
infectious disease.

#9: I’ve never heard of this working for anything but temporary symptom relief.

#10: Can’t hurt.

The symptoms are highly variable, but most often start with nasal congestion, 
sometimes fever, and then a sore throat. The drowning sensation in #4 is 
something I’ve not heard of or read about.

Rick




On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:30 PM, mike wilson  wrote:

Advice from a virologist, allegedly.  Makes sense to me.

The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know 
if he/she is infected? By the time they have a fever and/or cough and go to the 
hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts 
provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and 
hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without 
coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no 
Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In a critical time, please 
self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice 
by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth 
& throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at 
least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids 
will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your 
stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more 
regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very 
dangerous.

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS
1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of 
just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the 
ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if 
you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you 
can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill 
it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids 
with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 
minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick 
your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm 
water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!
SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 
days
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then 
the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're 
drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.

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[Mark C]

Glad to hear that, Paul.

On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old.





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[John]

On 3/21/2020 16:30:50, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Washing hands, good. Washing using soap, better. Using bacterial soap to attack 
viruses? I think that one is a bit suspect.

stan



You have to make sure the "bacterial soap" is the brand with bacterium that eats 
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