Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-03 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 10:54:35PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: You haven't heard a four engine bomber until you've heard a Lanc ;-) 4 Merlin's has a very unique sound, quite different from the 4 radial designs of Boeing and Consolidated. The more Merlins there aqre in the air, the better it all

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/8/10, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: That's probably from a Biggin Hill air show. My memory tells me that as well as the Lanc Hurricane there were also a couple of other Merlin engines in the formation - a Spitfire and a Mustang. The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (BBMF) had

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-03 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-08-03 4:36, Cotty wrote: didn't fade up the sound of the Vulcan, so as it banked around - the accompanying sound was that live over the pilot's interview: a Lancaster bomber - in perfect and harmonious sync with the Vulcan shot. It was actually uncanny. I couldn't have gotten a better

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/8/10, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed: Is the Vulcan still flying? I recall seeing both the Vulcan and the Victor at Farnborough, probably early 60's: the lasting impression was how slowly they seemed to fly, and the colossal noise they made on take-off! I don't know about your

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: And several stuck to the ground but moving: http://www.avrovulcan.com/ http://www.xm655.com/ Sometimes in mysterious ways. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8455110.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 11:46:14AM +1000, John Coyle wrote: Is the Vulcan still flying? I recall seeing both the Vulcan and the Victor at Farnborough, probably early 60's: the lasting impression was how slowly they seemed to fly, and the colossal noise they made on take-off! If you want a

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/8/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometimes in mysterious ways. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8455110.stm That's snow joke. Love the way, being Brits, they decided to support the nose wheel with crates. Anywhere else in the world they would have hoiked it back

RE: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Bob W
If you want a noisy Vulcan, try the flying testbed for the Olympus II engine developed for the Concorde. Just one of those engines was fitted underneath the belly of the aircraft. When they lit that one up it was louder than all four of the regular engines. And Concorde had four of those

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: mike wilson Cotty wrote: And several stuck to the ground but moving: http://www.avrovulcan.com/ http://www.xm655.com/ Sometimes in mysterious ways. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8455110.stm It's alright, it's alright ... it's all right -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 01:59:38PM +0100, Bob W wrote: If you want a noisy Vulcan, try the flying testbed for the Olympus II engine developed for the Concorde. Just one of those engines was fitted underneath the belly of the aircraft. When they lit that one up it was louder than all

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-08-02 12:45, John Francis wrote: Of course Puff the Magic Dragon (a military version of the DC3, the C-47, fitted with a pair of 7.62 mini guns with a rate of fire of up to 6000 rounds per minute) [...] Puffs were a bit better armed that that ... two 7.62 mini guns at something like

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:45 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: We get a lot of Chinook helicopters flying over here too, and they are also unmistable and very loud. You can feel the pounding in your chest long before you can see them, or even hear them for that matter - some sort of

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
One chopper sounds pretty much like any other to me. When I was in Viet Nam, I flew around in F-4s. Now, they did indeed have a distinctive sound, especially with the afterburner on for quick take-off. Made it hard to hear the hum of the rotors. G Dan On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Adam

RE: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Bob W
[...] The Chinook gunships never did play a large role in Vietnam as only 4 were ever built, only 3 ever made it to Vietnam and they only were actively used for a couple years early in the war (Late 65 through mid-68). They were very heavuly armed though. The main use of the Chinook in

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-08-02 14:47, Adam Maas wrote: If you want a really distinctive sound though, nothing matches the Bell 214's. They're a Huey on a serious case of steriods and sound exactly like that, with a much deeper and slower version of the Huey's classic whop-whop sound. I've probably never heard

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: [...] The Chinook gunships never did play a large role in Vietnam as only 4 were ever built, only 3 ever made it to Vietnam and they only were actively used for a couple years early in the war (Late 65 through mid-68). They

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-08-02 14:47, Adam Maas wrote: If you want a really distinctive sound though, nothing matches the Bell 214's. They're a Huey on a serious case of steriods and sound exactly like that, with a much deeper and

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread mike wilson
Adam Maas wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-08-02 14:47, Adam Maas wrote: If you want a really distinctive sound though, nothing matches the Bell 214's. They're a Huey on a serious case of steriods and sound exactly like that,

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:25 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-08-02 14:47, Adam Maas wrote: If you want a really distinctive sound though, nothing matches the Bell 214's.

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin On 2010-08-02 14:47, Adam Maas wrote: If you want a really distinctive sound though, nothing matches the Bell 214's. They're a Huey on a serious case of steriods and sound exactly like that, with a much deeper and slower version of the Huey's classic whop-whop sound.

RE: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread John Coyle
Thanks Cotty. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Monday, 2 August 2010 5:24 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Old lens back in use On 2/8/10, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed: Is the Vulcan

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-08-02 21:12, John Sessoms wrote: The UH-60 has a very quiet rotor system by comparison, with no distinctive beat. Not really a beat, the way the UH-1 has that unmistakable THWOP that hits you in the chest, and even the AH-1 Cobra has it, to an extent. But the UH-60 has a distinctive

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-08-02 15:54, Adam Maas wrote: During Vietnam there were 3-4 different helicopters of this basic configuration in service with the US Army and US Navy/Marine Corps. Like the Piasecki H-21 Flying Banana, that goes back to around the time of the Korean War, probably a little bit after.

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-08-02 15:59, Adam Maas wrote: You'll often hear the UH-1 rotor sound dubbed into movies for machines that sound nothing like a UH-1 in reality. Yeah, my favorite is the little Robinson 200 (?) whirlygigs (traffic copters) dubbed with the THWOP of a UH-1. Obviously done by someone

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-08-02 16:25, mike wilson wrote: Knock yourself out. They all seem to be doing logging and other heavy lifting duties in Canada, these days. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bell+214aq=f Sounds like someone put windmill vanes on a UH-1. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) --

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:12 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Doug Franklin On 2010-08-02 14:47, Adam Maas wrote: If you want a really distinctive sound though, nothing matches the Bell 214's. They're a Huey on a serious case of steriods and sound exactly like that,

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Mat Maessen
On 8/2/10, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Oh, I know. In those days I was working in Reading, on the top floors of the Butts centre. That's right underneath the flight path from Heathrow if, as was customary, take-off was to the west. So we used to hear the Concorde with the

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-08-02 21:12, John Sessoms wrote: The UH-60 has a very quiet rotor system by comparison, with no distinctive beat. Not really a beat, the way the UH-1 has that unmistakable THWOP that hits you in the

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-01 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/31/2010 11:45 AM, Bob W wrote: Airbuses (Airbi?) always look as if they're about to fall out of the sky. Either NatGeo or Disco(very) indicated that A380 was probably the largest passenger jet speaking bipedal apes can build given their current state of development... Boris -- PDML

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-01 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/31/2010 8:59 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Works well if a teeny bit soft - don't know whether that's the lens, my inability to focus manually or a bit of shake / movement. Of course, on the Micro 4/3 system it's equivalent to 270mm. I'll get round to doing some controlled tests one day. I

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-01 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W wrote: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000248.html that's easily the best shot of the set Bob's right, that's a stunner! Indeed! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. 

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/31/2010 11:45 AM, Bob W wrote: Airbuses (Airbi?) always look as if they're about to fall out of the sky. Either NatGeo or Disco(very) indicated that A380 was probably the largest passenger jet speaking bipedal apes

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-08-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Karin got a nice bit of foreground interest in this one during the Red Arrows' display: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000248.html Stunning shot, well done. dave That was taken with the

RE: Old lens back in use

2010-08-01 Thread John Coyle
Sent: Saturday, 31 July 2010 5:43 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Old lens back in use On 31/7/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the Farnborough airshow last weekend. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/7/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the Farnborough airshow last weekend. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000263.html Nice shots! When did you go to Farnborough? I presume Sat or Sun? I was

RE: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread Bob W
Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest. Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the Farnborough airshow last weekend. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000263.html Works well if a teeny bit soft - don't know whether

RE: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread Chris Mitchell
Bob W wrote: Sent: 31 July 2010 09:45 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Old lens back in use Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest. Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the Farnborough airshow last weekend. http

RE: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread Chris Mitchell
Cotty wrote: Sent: 31 July 2010 08:43 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Old lens back in use On 31/7/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the Farnborough airshow last weekend. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000248.html that's easily the best shot of the set Bob's right, that's a stunner! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread Jack Davis
The Airbus movement and manual focus/hold looks pretty good to me. Karin got an absolutely iconic image. Wonderful shot!! Jack --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net Subject: Old lens back in use To: 'Pentax-Discuss

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread drd1135
Really like the second shot. -Original Message- From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:59:18 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Old lens back in use Just

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread Stan Halpin
Karin's shot is fantastic, but your Airbus shot is nothing to scoff at either. I think Karin should check into selling her photo to the airshow managers for their use in a brochure for next year's show. stan On Jul 31, 2010, at 12:59 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Just thought it would be worth

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
I really like Karin's shot. Not your typical airshow shot but works very well. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest. Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380

Re: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling
On 7/31/2010 5:02 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Bob W wrote: Sent: 31 July 2010 09:45 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Old lens back in use Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest. Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken

RE: Old lens back in use

2010-07-31 Thread J.C. O'Connell
...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 3:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Old lens back in use On 7/31/2010 5:02 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Bob W wrote: Sent: 31 July 2010 09:45 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE

Old lens back in use

2010-07-30 Thread Chris Mitchell
Just thought it would be worth sharing this purely for interest. Pentax-M 135/3.5 on my wife's Panasonic G2. Airbus 380 taken at the Farnborough airshow last weekend. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Farnborough2010/slides/_1000263.html Works well if a teeny bit soft - don't know whether that's the