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2020-10-12 Thread Doug Brewer
On 10/11/20 5:28 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: I use Instagram. I post from my iPhone or iPad. When I shoot stuff on a proper camera I import into Lightroom on one of the devices, edit it a bit and save to the camera roll on the device, then I post from there into Instagram. Never tried it from a

Re: OT Instagram

2020-10-12 Thread Henk Terhell
I have earlier done this trick also by using Chrome in developer mode, but for me it is much easier to resize pictures when uploading from the phone using a cloud storage as onedrive. Henk Op 2020-10-12 om 16:08 schreef Mark Roberts: Toine wrote: Anybody using instagram? It's very popular

Re: OT Instagram

2020-10-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Toine wrote: >Anybody using instagram? It's very popular so I heard. I remember Instagram >as a lomography retro vintage style app with a very silly and ugly icon >(they changed that). Since it is focused on photography I started using it. >To my surprise and an hour or so wasted: you can't

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2020-10-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I use Instagram, because I hate using FarceBook. I use Instagram almost exclusively for images I take with my iPhone that I want to share with friends, so I use the Instagram app on my iPhone and click the button that says share to Facebook. It is not easy to post to Instagram from Mac or PC,

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2020-10-12 Thread John
I don't use it, but according to Wikipedia there's a desktop "app" (presumably for Apple OS) and a Windows 10 desktop app. I also found this from Google: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e633jE45jvM And at a guess, I expect you can post to Instagram from Facebook (something else I don't use,

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2020-10-12 Thread Toine
Ok thanks. uploading with OneDrive works ok. Cropping of IG is a real annoyance. My ID G name is repiuk.nl On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 04:58, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > > On Oct 11, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Toine wrote: > > > > Anybody using instagram? It's very popular so I heard. I remember Instagram >

Re: OT Instagram

2020-10-11 Thread Larry Colen
> On Oct 11, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Toine wrote: > > Anybody using instagram? It's very popular so I heard. I remember Instagram Thanks for the reminder, I try to post my best stuff there, and have forgotten. I’m redforestphoto there > as a lomography retro vintage style app with a very silly

Re: OT Instagram

2020-10-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Toine, the lack of Real Computer posting was an intentional design decision the Instagram designers made ages ago. At the time Twitter was the big up and coming deal and the Instagram guys decided to create something similar for images that would promote spontaneity and casualness. They really

Re: OT Instagram

2020-10-11 Thread Henk Terhell
Toine, I do use instagram besides Flickr for easier showing some of my pictures to friends and family not having a Flickr account. My username there is henkterhell. What I figured out by trial and error is  that you can have a map with your photo's in e.g. microsoft onedrive on your PC, that is

Re: OT Instagram

2020-10-11 Thread Bob Pdml
I use Instagram. I post from my iPhone or iPad. When I shoot stuff on a proper camera I import into Lightroom on one of the devices, edit it a bit and save to the camera roll on the device, then I post from there into Instagram. Never tried it from a ‘proper’ computer.

Re: OT: Instagram images

2020-05-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 1/5/20, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >*Some professional photographers are switching their Instagram accounts to >private after a court ruling.* A judge ruled media companies could embed >their Instagram posts in their articles without paying to use their work

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2018-09-26 Thread P. J. Alling
The length of time a non-compete agreement lasts depends on how high you are in a company.  A key man, (could be a woman), say a founder with intimate knowledge of the workings of a proprietary system, or important contacts in the case of a sales oriented company,  could have a much longer

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2018-09-26 Thread Bruce Walker
Non-compete contract clauses are usually only for a year or two. You couldn't enforce one beyond that as employment lawyers would successfully show they impair the executive's ability to make a living. Now, maybe they had stock options that vested over 5 or 6 years. That's kind of long too (3

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-26 Thread P. J. Alling
Most developers are independent types, they more or less began the high movement low loyalty workplace.  Mainly because they're smart enough to realize that most employers care less about them than they do about the furniture.  Zuckerberg, seems to be loyal to his friends, at least while

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
We have a lot to learn from the Romans and Greeks, but perhaps their farm breeding techniques were a little wayward at times... I do wonder about the process of commissioning such a work, though. > On 25 Sep 2018, at 01:22, P. J. Alling wrote: > > At least it was classically inspired... >

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2018-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
" Entrepreneurial types are generally allergic to large corporations" Technical types even more so -- like the Woz. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:55 PM Bruce Walker wrote: > I'm surprised they lasted 6 years at FB. Entrepreneurial

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2018-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm surprised they lasted 6 years at FB. Entrepreneurial types are generally allergic to large corporations, and dealing with FB "optimizing" the app in order to clobber the competition, Snapchat, and fine tuning the thing to maximize ad revenue at the expense of it being, well, actually

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2018-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The creators of Instagram apparently are unhappy with the way Facebook is handling the app. http://www.theweek.co.uk/96699/why-instagram-founders-are-leaving-facebook-owned-app ? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 8:30 PM Mark Roberts wrote: >

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2018-09-25 Thread John
The "old goat" obviously. On 9/24/2018 18:27, mike wilson wrote: Which one is you? On 24 September 2018 at 21:55 Bob W-PDML wrote: Nah. This is my true character (warning, people of a nervous disposition, and those at work or among family, may not wish to see this):

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread mike wilson
> On 24 September 2018 at 23:58 Steve Cottrell wrote: > > > On 24/9/18, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Nah. This is my true character (warning, people of a nervous > >disposition, and those at work or among family, may not wish to see this): > >

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
At least it was classically inspired... On 9/24/2018 4:55 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: Nah. This is my true character (warning, people of a nervous disposition, and those at work or among family, may not wish to see this):

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/9/18, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >Nah. This is my true character (warning, people of a nervous >disposition, and those at work or among family, may not wish to see this): You're the

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread mike wilson
Which one is you? > On 24 September 2018 at 21:55 Bob W-PDML wrote: > > > Nah. This is my true character (warning, people of a nervous disposition, and > those at work or among family, may not wish to see this): >

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2018-09-24 Thread Bob W-PDML
Nah. This is my true character (warning, people of a nervous disposition, and those at work or among family, may not wish to see this): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Pan_goat_MAN_Napoli_Inv27709_n02.jpg On 24 Sep 2018, at 21:26, Stanley Halpin

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2018-09-24 Thread Bob W-PDML
I follow Magnum, among a few other things, on Instagram. There's a fantastic variety of new and old photos every day. Some very interesting ones today about a dam building project on the Euphrates. > On 24 Sep 2018, at 17:08, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> Who gives a

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread Stanley Halpin
I think the “cleaned up” version hides your true character. The original is a much better portrait of you IMNSHO. stan > On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > It's quite good at detecting minor blemishes and tidying them up. I took a > selfie to demonstrate. > > This is the

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 12:08 PM 9/24/2018, Mark Roberts wrote: >Dario Bonazza, for example uses Instagram and I enjoy his work there. I follow >him and Doug Brewer and a few other people whose work I enjoy. I am trying to keep things simple and stupid here. I am nearly done clearing space so I can have a

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread John
Yeah. It cut off your head too. On 9/23/2018 16:18, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That is quite enlightening. Obviously, Instagram decided my heat was a blemish and cropped it out. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 4:05 PM Bob W-PDML wrote:

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >Who gives a rat's patootie what Instagram "encourages"? I do what I want, and >if I can't display it on Instagram, well, I won't use Instagram... :-) Exactly. Dario Bonazza, for example uses Instagram and I enjoy his work there. I follow him and Doug Brewer and a few

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread Bruce Walker
The encouragement is not so much from "Instagram the app" -- into which you can toss whatever you darned well please -- but "Instagram the marketing vehicle and popularity contest". It is touted by enthusiasts as a way to get your work noticed (and so make yourself more marketable), but to do

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2018-09-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Who gives a rat's patootie what Instagram "encourages"? I do what I want, and if I can't display it on Instagram, well, I won't use Instagram... :-) G — No matter where you go, you'll piss off the idiots if you tell them they're idiots. > On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: > >

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-24 Thread Doug Brewer
uh huh On 9/23/18 8:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Since Instagram encourages a tedious homogeneity of heavily tinted and HDR'ed landscapes and portraits with out-of-focus faery lights, if nobody on Instagram is digging your work, you are likely on the right track. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

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2018-09-24 Thread David J Brooks
I dont have a data plan so i guess i'm not instant with my grams. Dave On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I don't think age has that much to do with it. It's just that we all have > better taste. > > > On 9/23/2018 7:39 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> We're all too old for

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-23 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think age has that much to do with it.  It's just that we all have better taste. On 9/23/2018 7:39 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: We're all too old for Instagram. Apparently. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we

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2018-09-23 Thread Bruce Walker
Since Instagram encourages a tedious homogeneity of heavily tinted and HDR'ed landscapes and portraits with out-of-focus faery lights, if nobody on Instagram is digging your work, you are likely on the right track. :-) On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 7:37 PM Doug Brewer wrote: > > Watching my new work

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2018-09-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >Facebook without words. That sounds pretty good, actually. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

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2018-09-23 Thread Steve Cottrell
We're all too old for Instagram. Apparently. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-23 Thread Doug Brewer
Watching my new work tank so spectacularly is kind of awesome, though. On 9/23/18 3:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I post there, though I'm damned if I know why I bother. I dislike pretty much everything about Instagram. If you use Lightroom, consider using the LR/Instagram plugin as it eases a

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is quite enlightening. Obviously, Instagram decided my heat was a blemish and cropped it out. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 4:05 PM Bob W-PDML wrote: > It's quite good at detecting minor blemishes and tidying them up. I took a >

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-23 Thread Bob W-PDML
It's quite good at detecting minor blemishes and tidying them up. I took a selfie to demonstrate. This is the original: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtRNY5M6IZ1DivRInt4Osc1AyxjFmQ This the Instagrammed version: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtRNY5M6IZ1DivRKk-cLVDeRmw8wxQ On 23 Sep 2018, at 19:48, Godfrey

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Facebook without words. Paul > On Sep 23, 2018, at 3:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > I post there, though I'm damned if I know why I bother. I dislike > pretty much everything about Instagram. > > If you use Lightroom, consider using the LR/Instagram plugin as it > eases a few of IG's

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-23 Thread Bruce Walker
I post there, though I'm damned if I know why I bother. I dislike pretty much everything about Instagram. If you use Lightroom, consider using the LR/Instagram plugin as it eases a few of IG's annoyances. Most notably, it enables you to post directly from Lightroom, and it solves the IG stupid

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I’ve been meaning to give it a try. G > On Sep 23, 2018, at 2:10 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Does anyone here use Instagram for images? > > I had never tried it. At a recent meeting of tyhe Princeton Mac Users > Group, however, there was a presentation on saving and sharing images >

Re: OT: Instagram

2018-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Doug. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 2:23 PM Doug Brewer wrote: > Yes. One is square and the other isn't. If you post using the default > aspect ratio on IG, you get a square. If you want the rectangle, you > have to touch the

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2018-09-23 Thread Doug Brewer
Yes. One is square and the other isn't. If you post using the default aspect ratio on IG, you get a square. If you want the rectangle, you have to touch the little angle bracket button on the bottom left of the selection screen. IG's rectangle is squat, though, so some vertical or horizontal

Re: OT - Instagram users fight the square

2014-04-29 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote: Instagram was never really hip. It was hiplike. Sort of like lifelike is to life. Quite possibly one of the best PDML quotes ever. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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2014-04-29 Thread John
You're right. That Nikleback parody on YouToob was funny, but other than that, I don't care. On 4/28/2014 8:57 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Okay, like me you probably don't give a rat's ass about Instagram, but it is a source of amusement from time to time. And this has gotta be worth a chuckle.

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2014-04-28 Thread Bruce
I guess I just became hip as I have been doing that for quite a long time. -- Bruce (the hipster) Sent from my iPad On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, like me you probably don't give a rat's ass about Instagram, but it is a source of amusement

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2014-04-28 Thread steve harley
on 2014-04-28 18:57 Bruce Walker wrote Heh! Unhip is the new hip. oh shit, my unhip gig is spoiled -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

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2014-04-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Me too - but not on instagram. ann On 4/28/2014 22:26, Bruce wrote: I guess I just became hip as I have been doing that for quite a long time. -- Bruce (the hipster) Sent from my iPad On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, like me you probably don't

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2014-04-28 Thread P.J. Alling
Instagram was never really hip. It was hiplike. Sort of like lifelike is to life. On 4/28/2014 8:57 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Okay, like me you probably don't give a rat's ass about Instagram, but it is a source of amusement from time to time. And this has gotta be worth a chuckle.

Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-30 Thread Jens
--- From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Sent: December 18, 2012 12/18/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos... From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license all public Instagram photos

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2012-12-30 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jens So, human nature makes it possible for the individual to survive, mainly by putting ME first (before US or humanity). This way the individual may survive. that's not strictly correct. What seems to work best is enlightened

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2012-12-30 Thread Stan Halpin
On Dec 30, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Bob W wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jens So, human nature makes it possible for the individual to survive, mainly by putting ME first (before US or humanity). This way the individual may survive. that's not strictly correct.

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2012-12-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: Jens Communism has nothing to do with Instargram stealing (our) photographs. Communism as an epithet has little or nothing to do with any socio-economic system. It's a coin that has been debased. In Instagram's case what they're doing is actually corporate feudalism. Our corporate

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2012-12-30 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: Bob W [mailto:p...@web-options.com] Where systems such as communism and laissez-faire capitalism fail is when we forget that, and a small clique is able temporarily to run things for their own benefit, at our expense. I've deleted an earlier reply to

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2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
Bingo! Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 12/19/2012 11:51:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: there is a world of difference between choosing close contact with others, and having others following you without your knowledge or permission. B -- PDML

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2012-12-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Deleted my Instagram account, but I only had one photo on it. I haven't had the app on my phone for some time. Just didn't hold my interest, so no real big protest on my part. The recent events reminded me I, indeed, did have one photo posted to my account. All gone now. Cheers, Christine

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2012-12-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin On 2012-12-18 23:23, Tom C wrote: In what way I ask. There's certainly much I don't know. Are you referring to the concept of personal privacy or the state of personal privacy (i.e. the ease with which it can be invaded and trampled upon)? I understand privacy can be

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2012-12-19 Thread Gerrit Visser
A wonderful yet terrifying example: http://www.ted.com/talks/malte_spitz_your_phone_company_is_watching.html Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: December 19, 2012 12:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT

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2012-12-19 Thread Eactivist
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: December 19, 2012 12:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos... On 2012-12-18 23:53, Tom C wrote: When I wrote clandestinely track them, I meant the ability to, or to back-trace

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2012-12-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Just today a coworker of mine was boasting with his brand new galaxy note 2 phablet. It was so cool, he said - it automatically connected to his Facebook account, scanned all the entries there and built a dictionary for his phablet predictive input keyboard... I was very heavily scratching my

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2012-12-19 Thread Boris Liberman
John, I am sorry to burst your bubble, but if you look deep enough at any modern bureaucratic society, you will inevitably find certain signs of what you said in the quote below... I do suggest to take further exchange on the matter of the list. Sent with AquaMail for Android

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2012-12-19 Thread Bob W
I was very heavily scratching my head from within as I was listening to him... you must have really big nostrils B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 19 December 2012 19:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT

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2012-12-19 Thread Boris Liberman
The caveat here that if you're grown up enough you can agree to limit some of your privacy by choosing to sign an agreement. Now if the 'good' that may come to you is attractive enough (e.g. you won't be facebook-less outcast) you will sign it anyway. And since the state has so much to gain

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2012-12-19 Thread Boris Liberman
B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 19 December 2012 19:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos... Just today a coworker of mine was boasting with his brand new galaxy

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2012-12-19 Thread P. J. Alling
That's true communism, however every communist system bigger than a shaker community that has been tried is actually a form of fascism, whereby all property and all citizens belong to the state. The rest is just window dressing. On 12/19/2012 2:38 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: The caveat here

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2012-12-19 Thread John Sessoms
/malte_spitz_your_phone_company_is_watching.html Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: December 19, 2012 12:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos... On 2012-12-18 23:53, Tom C wrote: When I wrote clandestinely

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2012-12-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:29 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: How are they going to know where I am if I can barely get service from one tower? At least conceivably, beamforming antenna arrays at the tower (for azimuth), and round-trip signal delay (for the range). -- PDML

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2012-12-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
It would be good if someone kept track of where I am in case I forget. Paul On Dec 19, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:29 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: How are they going to know where I am if I can barely get service from one

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2012-12-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman John, I am sorry to burst your bubble, but if you look deep enough at any modern bureaucratic society, you will inevitably find certain signs of what you said in the quote below... No bubble. That's where I was headed anyway ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

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2012-12-19 Thread John Sessoms
Right, cell phone tracking is not all pervasive nor always entirely evil. If I dial 911, I *want* them to know where I am ... just not enough replace a telephone that already works. From: Paul Stenquist It would be good if someone kept track of where I am in case I forget. Paul On Dec 19,

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2012-12-19 Thread Gerrit Visser
offset by what you give up. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: December 19, 2012 6:50 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos... Right, cell phone tracking is not all pervasive nor

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2012-12-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
detailed that view is. They tracked him on train, bus, etc. So, the benefit of e911 is rather offset by what you give up. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: December 19, 2012 6:50 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT

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2012-12-19 Thread Boris Liberman
On 12/19/2012 5:51 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: I've seen a commentary or two lately that claim, with some historical backing, that personal privacy was an aberration of Western society in the 19th and 20th centuries, as compared to the rest of human history. That is totally fascinating... Indeed

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2012-12-19 Thread Boris Liberman
I'm with you on this one, Bob. If it does not from frontal attack the best way to proceed is to retreat and apply the frog in the hot water tactic... On 12/19/2012 5:00 AM, Bob W wrote: this whole thing feels to me like a deliberately storm-provoking opening move. They will came back soom

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2012-12-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Do you really think, Peter that you and your property don't belong to your state? (notice that I am using word you and your a number of times on purpose)... On 12/19/2012 10:01 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That's true communism, however every communist system bigger than a shaker community that

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2012-12-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Privacy is a right, Paul. At least this is my view. Further IMO, privacy is a basic right. Presently, in order to get my privacy I have to descend some 50 years to the past - turn off my cell phone, disconnect my home from the internet and may be do few more things. I am not saying that's

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2012-12-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Not quite yet, they're working on it though. On 12/20/2012 12:06 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Do you really think, Peter that you and your property don't belong to your state? (notice that I am using word you and your a number of times on purpose)... On 12/19/2012 10:01 PM, P. J. Alling

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2012-12-19 Thread Bob W
. So, the benefit of e911 is rather offset by what you give up. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: December 19, 2012 6:50 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos

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2012-12-18 Thread Darren Addy
As I said on Twitter: Who da thunk after paying $1B for #Instagram that #Facebook would now want to monitize it? Besides everybody, I mean. One opinion to the latest news is that if you are going to use a free service you should expect them to be able to make money off of their service (YOU)

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2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization, including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform the Web site into the world?s largest stock

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2012-12-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Bong Manayon wrote: Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization, including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform the Web site into the world’s largest stock photo agency.

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2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
So, facebook is owned by greedy assholes. Who would have ever guessed? From: Bong Manayon Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization, including for advertising purposes, which would effectively

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2012-12-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Facebook is openly evil. On 12/18/2012 10:07 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization, including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform the Web site into

Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization, including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform the Web site into the world?s

Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
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2012-12-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh, but they have gazillion members out of which gazillion and a half will stay signed in forever. Though there is hope in numbers, 'cause they have immense piles of images (even given the hints of the community assigned rating) to work through to find something useful. Anyway, I'm rather

Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Tom, it would have been communism if it also said 'our pictures are your pictures' which iiuc it most certainly does not. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On December 18, 2012 7:13:23 PM Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Under

Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com From: Tom C From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization, including for advertising purposes, which would effectively

Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread P. J. Alling
On 12/18/2012 3:19 PM, Tom C wrote: From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com From: Tom C From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization, including for advertising

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2012-12-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Well, there goes my plan to Instagram all the photos for next year's PDML Photo Annual... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Tom, it would have been communism if it also said 'our pictures are your pictures' which iiuc it most certainly does not. True but I didn't want to perpetuate that part of the deception. Twentieth-century communists (as we commonly like to think of them

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2012-12-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
to be communists (but clearly aren't). cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Sent: December 18, 2012 12/18/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos... From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Under the new policy, Facebook

RE: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Gerrit Visser
copyrighted material. Of course that wording is in the existing TOS so nothing new there. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: December 18, 2012 5:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has

Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I JUST NOW heard that announced on my evening TV news and was about to mention it here. Oy ann On 12/18/2012 10:07, Bong Manayon wrote: Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization, including for

RE: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com As I understand it communism is common ownership of the means of production. I'm not sure what that has to do with Instagram stealing photographs. Sadly, the term communism has been misused and abused more

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2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com As I understand it communism is common ownership of the means of production. I'm not sure what that has to do with Instagram stealing photographs. Sadly, the term communism has been misused and abused more than just about any other

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2012-12-18 Thread Igor Roshchin
Apparently, today in the afternoon, this policy change has been revoked by Facebook: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559890-93/instagram-apologizes-to-users-we-wont-sell-your-photos/ On 12/18/2012 10:07, Bong Manayon wrote: Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to

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2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
Good, never used Instagram (not quite sure, what it is actually), but was considering never showing a photo again on FB. Which I sort of like, actually. Took me about a year, but now I am used to it. Marnie aka Doe :-) Newflanged gadgets, grumble, istuff, tablets, give me Twitter and FB

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