Re: [HACKERS] pgbench duration option

2008-08-17 Thread Greg Smith
worthless because the test ran for a trivial amount of time? Seems like it happens a lot to me. This patch was already on my todo list for 8.4 and I'm glad I don't have to write it myself now. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-

Re: [HACKERS] [DOCS] [ADMIN] shared_buffers and shmmax

2008-08-12 Thread Greg Smith
uot;Most people have no idea how to set [GUCs]" which I know some people wanted to see a more formal document for before mucking with any of the code. I'll have something to announce there shortly. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via p

Re: [HACKERS] Mini improvement: statement_cost_limit

2008-08-04 Thread Greg Smith
articular machine, so that all those numbers actually can be tied to some real-world time measure. If you did that, you'd actually have a shot at accomplishing the real goal here, making statement_cost_limit cut off statements expected to take longer than statement_timeout before they even ge

Re: [HACKERS] Review: DTrace probes (merged version) ver_03

2008-08-02 Thread Greg Smith
obe in the middle there to make that straightforward. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Review: DTrace probes (merged version) ver_03

2008-08-01 Thread Greg Smith
both. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Python 2.5 vs the buildfarm

2008-07-29 Thread Greg Smith
available. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS][PATCHES] odd output in restore mode

2008-07-28 Thread Greg Smith
Windows as well, at least enough to cover this particular issue. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [DOCS] [ADMIN] shared_buffers and shmmax

2008-07-26 Thread Greg Smith
cleanup/wizard plan that's being worked on. The pg_settings view really should show the value both as the user input it and as it's stored internally for cases like these, which lowers the confusion here a bit even without going so far as converting everything to bytes. -- * Greg Smi

Re: [HACKERS] Sorting writes during checkpoint

2008-07-15 Thread Greg Smith
e amount of layering in this area makes it difficult to understand just what's going on sometimes (especially when new to it). A lot of that abstraction felt a bit pass-through to me, and anything that would collapse that a bit would be helpful for streamlining the code instrumenting going

Re: [HACKERS] posix advises ...

2008-07-14 Thread Greg Smith
ook useful and consistant, then move toward cleaning up broader compatibility issues like the segfault concerns Zoltan mentioned. Going to take a while to work through all that, but performance patches with platform-specific benefit are always painful like this. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Location for pgstat.stat

2008-07-01 Thread Greg Smith
restored a previous version after a crash that didn't save an updated copy. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS]

2008-06-26 Thread Greg Smith
itself, I like http://doxygen.postgresql.org/ 4) Notes on how to deal with version control issues, patch submission, and to find out what development is going on currently are all at http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Development_information -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com

Re: [HACKERS] How to Sponsor a Feature

2008-06-15 Thread Greg Smith
tting new features implemented. Maybe all that's needed is to extend the "provides" section there with a tag for those who are willing to take that sort of work on. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing

Re: [HACKERS] How to Sponsor a Feature

2008-06-12 Thread Greg Smith
make it easier for potential sponsors to navigate. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-12 Thread Greg Smith
about their server, or sometimes that they're even using PostgreSQL inside the firewall. If it's not a tool that you can run on the same server you're running PostgreSQL on, I'd consider that another diversion that's not worth pursuing. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-11 Thread Greg Smith
lving the newbie problem. I want a tool to help out tuning medium to large installs, and generating a simple config file is absolutely something that should come out of that as a bonus. Anything that just targets the simple installs, though, I'm not very motivated to chase after. -- * Greg Sm

Re: [HACKERS] How to Sponsor a Feature

2008-06-11 Thread Greg Smith
. I don't think these people need guidance on how to manage the project, they need some sort of way to feel comfortable saying "will pledge $Y for feature $X" in a way that makes sense on both sides. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD --

Re: [HACKERS] Core team statement on replication in PostgreSQL

2008-06-09 Thread Greg Smith
implementation. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-06 Thread Greg Smith
range, and recommended setting are all valuable things people would like to see when deciding what the change a setting to. And there's no reason accumulating all that info should be the responsibility of a tool writer when it's easy to expose and keep up to date inside the database itsel

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-06 Thread Greg Smith
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Gregory Stark wrote: "Greg Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 1) Is it worthwhile to expand the information stored in the GUC structure to make it better capable of supporting machine generation and to provide more information for tool authors via pg_sett

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-06 Thread Greg Smith
osh) didn't just make them all up out of nowhere you know. I wrote a message here already about what the seemingly inevitable path the budding "wizard tool hacker" follows and why that leads into some of the changes suggested. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.co

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-06 Thread Greg Smith
topic now) to hash out suggestions in this area, I'm trying to keep this somewhat thread focused now. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://ww

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-06 Thread Greg Smith
require messing around with kernel settings that no PostgreSQL tool can really help with. Yes. So? All you can do is point this out to users. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-05 Thread Greg Smith
mock-up showing what each of the outputs from the pg_generate_conf tool might look like to get feedback on that; it will make what is planned here a bit easier to understand as well. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-05 Thread Greg Smith
leting all of the continuing attemps to divert the discussion over to parameter tuning details or expanding the scope here. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-05 Thread Greg Smith
he settings I tinker with do, but even I'd like it to be easier to find the right spot in the manual; for newbies it's vital. You are correct that (2) isn't strictly necessary here, but it's valuable and will be easier to wrap into this than to bolt on later. (3) (4) (5)

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-05 Thread Greg Smith
h a proper API. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-05 Thread Greg Smith
rformance tuning document a bit more in people's faces might help lower some of the criticism the project takes over providing low defaults for so many things. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-ha

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-04 Thread Greg Smith
In the shared_buffers case, it may be possible to just recommend a value without caring one bit what the current one is. But for work_mem, you really need to actually understand the value if you want any real intelligence that combines that information with the maximum connections, so that you can

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-04 Thread Greg Smith
e moving along at their own pace. There's already more tuning knowledge available than tools to help apply that knowledge to other people's systems, which is why I think a diversion to focus just on that part is so necessary. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Bal

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-04 Thread Greg Smith
urther outbursts about non-productive comments here, and each time I am tempted instead work on prototyping the necessary code I think this really needs instead. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgres

Re: [HACKERS] rfc: add pg_dump options to dump output

2008-06-04 Thread Greg Smith
hat should show at the very beginning. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-04 Thread Greg Smith
en running for a while (and possibly moved to another machine). By that point nobody wants to mess with their configuration file unless it's one simple change at a time. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgs

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-04 Thread Greg Smith
hat on an XML file in any shell language in that class, then we might have something to talk about. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-03 Thread Greg Smith
are dealt with first, and that's where this is at right now. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-02 Thread Greg Smith
ybody who could pull it off who isn't already overtasked with more important improvements for the 8.4 timeframe. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to you

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-02 Thread Greg Smith
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008, Tom Lane wrote: Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joshua has been banging a drum for a while now that all this data needs to get pushing into the database itself. This is, very simply, not going to happen. Right, there are also technical challenges in the

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-02 Thread Greg Smith
l planned out if you look at his presentations, but without the larger overhaul it's just not possible to make the implementation elegant. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-06-02 Thread Greg Smith
ttp://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/GUCS_Overhaul I think reading that version makes it a bit clearer what the proposed overhaul is aiming for. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make chan

Re: [HACKERS] Overhauling GUCS

2008-05-30 Thread Greg Smith
evable to clone a working facsimile of even a complicated postgresql.conf file set remotely just by reading pg_settings. While a bit outside of the part you're specifically aiming to improve here, if you could slip these two additions in I think it would be a boon to future writers of multi

Re: [HACKERS] Core team statement on replication in PostgreSQL

2008-05-30 Thread Greg Smith
because all the unused bytes are 0. File comes out the same size at the other side, but you didn't ship a full 16MB if there was only a few KB used. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.or

Re: [HACKERS] Core team statement on replication in PostgreSQL

2008-05-30 Thread Greg Smith
ant March commitfest queue but should probably wander into contrib as part of 8.4. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mail

Re: [HACKERS] Core team statement on replication in PostgreSQL

2008-05-29 Thread Greg Smith
;s the case, it would be nice to explicitly spell out what that was to deflect criticism of the planned prioritization. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: h

Re: [HACKERS] Core team statement on replication in PostgreSQL

2008-05-29 Thread Greg Smith
what the data is in some environments, and in some of those downtime is really, really expensive. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.post

Re: [HACKERS] [PERFORM] Memory question on win32 systems

2008-05-29 Thread Greg Smith
d to http://www.westnet.com/~gsmith/content/postgresql/ and read "Inside the PostgreSQL Buffer Cache". The work memory allocated for sorting is separate from that, and it doesn't cache anything. It just provides working room for a query that's being executed right

Re: [HACKERS] Catching exceptions from COPY

2008-05-28 Thread Greg Smith
our input files into smaller chunks and loads them, kicking back the ones that don't load, or breaking them into even smaller chunks until you've found the problem line or lines. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list

Re: [HACKERS] triggers on prepare, commit, rollback... ?

2008-05-20 Thread Greg Smith
ay in sync as the underlying log file changes (it might rotate every day for example). Unfortunately it's not as simple as just using tail. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make

Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC08]some detail plan of improving hash index

2008-05-19 Thread Greg Smith
useful purchase for one of the PG non-profits to make one day though. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Can't t compile current HEAD

2008-05-18 Thread Greg Smith
ng_with_CVS#Initial_setup -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] New DTrace probes proposal

2008-05-18 Thread Greg Smith
milated into core as well so they don't have to maintain their patch past 8.3; hopefully Theo or Robert will chime in on that. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make chan

Re: [HACKERS] Link requirements creep

2008-05-17 Thread Greg Smith
echnically, but I don't think the introduce any real functional creep. It would be difficult to even strip a system down to the point where these packages weren't available. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing

Re: [HACKERS] [0/4] Proposal of SE-PostgreSQL patches

2008-05-06 Thread Greg Smith
defense mechanisms these environments look for redundant layers of security. In reality users of this would aim for a completely locked down base PostgreSQL *and* a completely locked down SELinux implementation integrated into that, reinforcing one another, rather than just relying on one le

Re: [HACKERS] [0/4] Proposal of SE-PostgreSQL patches

2008-05-05 Thread Greg Smith
tgreSQL ones, but it should be easier to change policy violations that impact the server to something other than just ERROR. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to you

Re: [HACKERS] [0/4] Proposal of SE-PostgreSQL patches

2008-04-30 Thread Greg Smith
llion errors reported just because there's data that person can't see available. At a minimum, this needs some finer log control, and maybe a rethinking altogether of how to handle error cases. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via p

Re: [HACKERS] [0/4] Proposal of SE-PostgreSQL patches

2008-04-30 Thread Greg Smith
take it seriously, and the whole thing just leaves me feeling sorry for them instead. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Per-table random_page_cost for tables that we know are always cached

2008-04-22 Thread Greg Smith
control might work well. Maybe have an "adjust estimates for cache contents" knob that you can toggle on a per-session or per-table basis? -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] TODO, FAQs to Wiki?

2008-04-21 Thread Greg Smith
the additional toolchain needed for reST processing just to make the FAQ a little easier to edit. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgres

Re: [HACKERS] Commitfest namespacing (was: TODO, FAQs to Wiki?)

2008-04-21 Thread Greg Smith
be a useful hack when a page gets removed or to handle common shortcuts/errors. In general, if you're relying on them heavily for external navigation structure, you're probably not using the right tool for that sort of job. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Ba

Re: [HACKERS] How to submit a patch

2008-04-19 Thread Greg Smith
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Greg Smith wrote: One small change I'd suggest on the main site: http://www.postgresql.org/developer/coding links to http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Developer_and_Contributor_Resources which is now a redirect to the above page. This re

Re: [HACKERS] How to submit a patch

2008-04-19 Thread Greg Smith
ut the advocacy contributors to their own section which made the longer title unneeded. It would be nice one day to change that to use the shorter Development_information URL instead. It would also be worth considering a direct link to that URL in the manual, I believe it will remain stable

Re: [HACKERS] Lessons from commit fest

2008-04-17 Thread Greg Smith
isn't good enough here? http://doxygen.postgresql.org/globals_type.html Scraping that HTML seems like it would be pretty straightforward. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make

Re: [HACKERS] Plan targetlists in EXPLAIN output

2008-04-17 Thread Greg Smith
he academic users of PostgreSQL were hoping to add features in this area in order to allow better using planner internals for educational purposes. It would be nice if that were available for such purposes without having to recompile. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Ba

Re: [HACKERS] How to submit a patch

2008-04-16 Thread Greg Smith
yet. That whole area of the Wiki is still moving around a bit, and I expect some more usefully targetted pages will emerge ("How to submit a patch" comes to mind). Having a stable CommitFest URL is handy, but I don't think it's where the FAQ should be sending people. --

Re: [HACKERS] Commit fest queue

2008-04-10 Thread Greg Smith
n whenever a specific wiki page is modified right now, that's a standard MediaWiki feature. If you wanted you could even sign up a mailing list as the entity being notified. That's not exactly what you had in mind I think, but it's close enough to be useful for now. -- * Gr

Re: [HACKERS] Commit fest queue

2008-04-09 Thread Greg Smith
do items and such rather than letting the idea just get lost in the archives. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Commit fest queue

2008-04-09 Thread Greg Smith
ict...err, volunteers to pull him out of the later steps though for a net reduction in his time. Simply getting things organized better from the start should help with getting more people helping out with review; the common complaint seemed to be "I can't figure out what to help w

Re: [HACKERS] modules

2008-04-04 Thread Greg Smith
(but not installed in the database, as you point out) unless someone goes out of their way to circumvent that. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription:

Re: [HACKERS] Patch queue -> wiki (was varadic patch)

2008-04-04 Thread Greg Smith
Other people have been running such tools for Bruce but he doesn't have one he can become comfortable with running himself yet. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make chang

[HACKERS] Patch queue -> wiki (was varadic patch)

2008-04-02 Thread Greg Smith
5 from the above. But that's a one-way operation that doesn't really help with the commenting situation, and it's inevitably going to lag behind the mailbox-centered queue unless it's made fully automatic. I can't think of anything better that doesn't require building so

Re: [HACKERS] build multiple indexes in single table pass?

2008-04-01 Thread Greg Smith
o pull that off. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [JDBC] Re: [HACKERS] How embarrassing: optimization of a one-shot query doesn't work

2008-04-01 Thread Greg Smith
ginal code at http://mmmysql.sourceforge.net/performance/ , there's also some improved versions at http://developer.mimer.com/features/feature_16.htm I'm not sure if all of those changes are net positive for PostgreSQL though, they weren't last time I played with this. --

Re: [HACKERS] New boxes available for QA

2008-04-01 Thread Greg Smith
mment about whether those are worth the trouble to integrate. The big missing piece of community hardware that remains elusive would be a system with =4 cores, >=8GB RAM, and >=8 disks with a usable write-caching controller in it. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.

Re: [HACKERS] Commitfest patches

2008-03-29 Thread Greg Smith
my main concern about this experiment. Some of the discussion that followed your original request for tests was kind of confusing as far as how to interpret the results as well; I think I know what to look for but certainly wouldn't mind some more guidance there, too. -- * Greg Smith [E

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Replication with read-only access to standby DB

2008-03-27 Thread Greg Smith
ones. And it's kind of a touchy subject to bring up as well, since it's hard to make recommendations without looking unprofessional--which partly explains the dead silence you've gotten as a response here so far. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsm

Re: [HACKERS] pg_standby for 8.2 (with last restart point)

2008-03-27 Thread Greg Smith
with "case 'r'" and the 3 new variable definitions just above it that uses). -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] pg_standby for 8.2 (with last restart point)

2008-03-27 Thread Greg Smith
re fixing a bug that's more troublesome than that risk. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] pg_standby for 8.2 (with last restart point)

2008-03-27 Thread Greg Smith
now people have asked about simulating this behavior, and I don't recall a good sample solution being presented before yours. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: improve shutdown during online backup

2008-03-26 Thread Greg Smith
t the person who starts the database will be surprised if the person stopping it isn't paying attention (or isn't a person). -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

[HACKERS] Windows shared_buffers limitations

2008-03-26 Thread Greg Smith
ves I got the impression it was some page mapping issue but details are elusive. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/

Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] (Is it OK to choose items without % mark in theToDoList) && (is it an acceptable idea to build index on Flash Disk)

2008-03-24 Thread Greg Smith
l project than a database one. I also have my doubts about whether you could get this done within the GSoC timeframe; better to pick a less ambitious goal than rewriting the whole storage manager interface I would think. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimo

Re: [HACKERS] CVS problems

2008-03-18 Thread Greg Smith
make your own copy of the repository instead. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] [0/4] Proposal of SE-PostgreSQL patches

2008-03-17 Thread Greg Smith
code as an attachment for a proposal if you can direct people to the web for them. That's why I suggested sending "the minimum of files necessary", which in this case was zero. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers ma

Re: [HACKERS] Commit fest?

2008-03-17 Thread Greg Smith
practically on a wiki already! -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [PATCHES] [HACKERS] [0/4] Proposal of SE-PostgreSQL patches

2008-03-17 Thread Greg Smith
a similar independant review will need to happen for every component you interact with here, on top of a technical review. Luckily this is something a lot of people would like and that should all get taken care of. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD

Re: [HACKERS] Commit fest?

2008-03-16 Thread Greg Smith
uld search based on them. A brief glance at the MHonArc documentation suggests that could be run to re-covert any existing messages that are still available in order to add to those even. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing

Re: [HACKERS] Commit fest?

2008-03-14 Thread Greg Smith
out what the reply was referring to. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Commit fest?

2008-03-14 Thread Greg Smith
.3 progress will make sense. Right now many of these threads are not turning into patches to review, and the easiest way to figure out which are which is to read through the discussion thread--something a wiki wouldn't make any easier than the view Bruce is already providing. -- * Greg Smith

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Move the developers wiki?

2008-03-12 Thread Greg Smith
work done on postgresqldocs.org into the new infrastructure in a couple of days, after things settle down a bit. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription:

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Move the developers wiki?

2008-03-12 Thread Greg Smith
pages get moved over with the same names (which doesn't seem like it would be a problem), just changing developer.postgresql.org to point to wiki.postgresql would seem to be sufficient to keep any existing links working. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, M

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add: > o Add SQLSTATE severity to PGconn return status > >

2008-03-12 Thread Greg Smith
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Greg Smith wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Magnus Hagander wrote: How about we move it to the wiki. AFAIK we can still lock it down to who can edit it if we want to You should confirm you can get the editing granularity you want before making too many plans here if this is

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add: > o Add SQLSTATE severity to PGconn return status > >

2008-03-11 Thread Greg Smith
developer's wiki. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Commitfest process

2008-03-07 Thread Greg Smith
On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: If I want people to review my patch, I'm ready to sing and dance if that's what it takes. Great timing, there's even a suitable song available for you today: http://use.perl.org/~grantm/journal/35855 -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] Group Commit

2008-03-06 Thread Greg Smith
make today is that I'd prefer not to see commit_delay excised until there's a superior replacement for it that's suitable even for synchronous write situations. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-ha

Re: [HACKERS] Group Commit

2008-03-06 Thread Greg Smith
t thing, but I hope it's obvious that there's some possibility to improve this area for applications that can't use async commit. If you're going to dump the feature, I'd suggest at least waiting until later in the 8.4 cycle to see if something better comes along first.

Re: [HACKERS] pg_dump additional options for performance

2008-02-26 Thread Greg Smith
nst that single file. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings

Re: [HACKERS] pg_dump additional options for performance

2008-02-26 Thread Greg Smith
mps, while a pg_dump focused effort helps nothing but that specific workflow. I wonder if doing too much work on the pg_dump path is the best use of someone's time when the more general case will need to be addressed one day anyway. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gr

Re: [HACKERS] 8.3 / 8.2.6 restore comparison

2008-02-22 Thread Greg Smith
tion between the bgwriter and the backend doing COPY It might be worthwhile to turn off the background writer for these runs, both to see if it changes anything and to simplify the output. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD ---

Re: [HACKERS] CVS repository invalid revision

2008-02-18 Thread Greg Smith
te as people mention new ones. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so

Re: [HACKERS] Patch review

2008-02-13 Thread Greg Smith
. That sort of thing (renamed or improperly continued thread on the same topic) is another spot where someone keeping track of things manually can end up with a more consistant view of the discussion than the archives provide. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.co

Re: [HACKERS] Patch review

2008-02-13 Thread Greg Smith
ds, but there is some value to the way Bruce collects up the more interesting posts in the thread. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings

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