Jay,
The fact that you invoked the word infamous suggests that you know something
of the man...? It's a tragic story (and I'm unaware of many details that others
can supply), but the story is basically this:? Dr. Philip Peterson was a
professor at Stanford University, and during the late
Thanks to Bob, I stand corrected - - there was another hero in the mess; Dr.
Cox.? I hadn't heard of him - - thanks, Bob!
George Paul
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Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 5:34 pm
Subject:
?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott Denise Corbett
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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of gpaul2...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:57 PM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dr. Phili
p
I take mine to a professional refurbisher of brass band instruments.? In the
summers, he's often busy with school instruments, but during the fall and
winter is a better time.? I've spent 4-5 hours working on the bell of a 42
horn, only to take a similar horn to the refurbisher and have it
Bob,
The information you send on your FIVE (!) Amberolas - and even some that you
sold - was very helpful!
I want to
thank you again for your help with my Amberola 1A research, and to ask your
continued help with some followup questions.? The information supplied by
owners of 1As
Dear Jim,
I want to
thank you again for your help with my Amberola 1A research, and to ask your
continued help with some followup questions.? The information supplied by
owners of 1As sometimes included data I hadn't asked for - yet it opened
further avenues of research.? If I can
Paul
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From: gpaul2...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B
Dear Jim,
I want to
thank you again for your help with my Amberola 1A research, and to ask your
continued help
Okay - okay - - this is going in a direction I don't care for!
I'd prefer Uncle George Kicking the Fabrizio?!?!
George Paul
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From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 12:05 am
Jim,
Getting involved is one thing - - it was the dress and flowery hat that gave me
pause...!
-Original Message-
From: Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 10:01 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ragtime Fabrizio
Bill,
You weren't too late.? I contacted cylinderfan early this morning.? He sent
back a nice note thanking me for the heads-up and admitting that he thought it
was too good to be true.?
George Paul
-Original Message-
From: buck Buchanan ret.army...@yahoo.com
To: Antique
Bob,
Wow - thanks for all that information!? Your data brings the number of 1As in
my database to 45.? Just to be sure - - your 1284 is a smooth lid?? Thanks
again, Bob - - I really appreciate it.
Best,
George
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From: Bob Johnson bjohn...@mrvictor.com
To:
Bob,
Thanks - I thought 1284 must have a smooth lid based on its other
characteristics. I'll be sure you get a copy of the research results, but of
course the best method is to subscribe to The Sound Box and have the benefit of
6 or 7 other articles (certainly more interesting than mine!) in
Bruce,
That is truly an interesting machine, Bruce, and my thanks for sending along
that information.? I'm particularly interested in the cloven hoof cabinets,
and yours - with the characteristics you describe - aids me in this research.?
Thanks very much!
Best,
George Paul
Bogantz
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From: gpaul2...@aol.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:46 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B
I'm asking for data from owners of Amberolas 1A and 1B. I'm
working on an article on the early Amberolas, similar
As I wrote in my initial posting, the results of my research - including
photos - is scheduled to be published in the March 2009 issue of The Sound
Box. I'm not one to take a proprietary view of data, and I trust that 60-odd
articles I've written and 8 books I've coauthored will bear me out
Peter,
I certainly have nothing against Amberola IIIs! It's just that I've been
wanting to clear up some early 1909-1911 Amberola questions for a long time,
and I'm not getting any younger...
Are there questions surrounding the Amberola III?
Best,
George Paul
I don't consider either the Amberola III or the 1B to be common machines.? As
to which is rarer, I wouldn't hazard a guess...
George Paul
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From: Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 3:38 pm
Steve,
No - I haven't pursued any research on the Amberola 60 or 80, so I couldn't
offer a guess on their production.? Thanks for your kind words about the Home
article...? I couldn't do it without all the help from the list!
Best,
George Paul
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From:
I'm asking for data from owners of Amberolas 1A and 1B. I'm
working on an article on the early Amberolas, similar to a study done
on suitcase Homes two years ago and published in The Sound Box.
Data received will be compiled in an article scheduled to appear in the
March 2009 issue of The Sound
Mark,
Thanks for your information - - you're the first to submit a 1B!?
Best,
George
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From: Mark Lynch markely...@earthlink.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A
Jerry,
In the early years, Edison marketed a few cylinder record cabinets, but never
with an Edison decal. Some old-timer evidently improved it!
George Paul
-Original Message-
From: DeeDee Blais deedeebl...@yahoo.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 3:26 pm
If anyone has an Edison Model D Repeater for Triumph, or parts thereof, that
they'd be willing to sell, I'd be happy to pay the going rate...? Thanks,
George Paul
As a matter of fact, I have a 30 zinc horn for cylinder at a polisher now.?
How did you know...?
George Paul
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From: zonophone2...@aol.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 7:21 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] zinc horn
hello all
i just got
It's a Simplex Automatic Start Stop Device.? Two photos of one are shown
on page 136 of World of Antique Phonographs, along with an original flyer.?
We also used an advertisement for this on the title page of Antique Phonograph
Gadgets, Gizmos, and Gimmicks.
Come on you guys - - why did we
!
LOL ok, ok I will check all the books first next time!!
J
gpaul2...@aol.com wrote:
It's a Simplex Automatic Start Stop Device.? Two photos of one are shown on
page 136 of World of Antique Phonographs, along with an original flyer.? We
also used an advertisement for this on the title page
1901-02 Johnson/Victor catalogs differentiated between Victor and Monarch
records, and this may have influenced the exhibitor's terminology.? I'm not
aware of any Monarch Talking Machine from this era other than the
Johnson/Victor machines.
George Paul
?
This appears to be a Type C equipped with larger support/traveling arms to
accommodate a larger horn (but not the horn that's currently on it).? I never
heard of a Frank Seamans pre Zonophone Machine other than the Gibson
Gramophone, the Montross Berliner, or perhaps a United States Talking
Jerry,
Thanks for your kind words about my new position in CAPS. There's no doubt that
they wanted me simply for eye-candy. But it's worth noting that CAPS is not
just for California collectors - any more than MAPS is solely for those living
in Michigan. I've been a member of both
Steve,
Allen is right - - unscrupulous retailers occasionally found it in their best
interest to grind off a serial number so the origin of a particular machine
could not be traced. There's nothing else unusual about this Home. The
nickeled dataplate mounted on top suggests approx.
.
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From: gpaul2...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] early edison home with no serial number
Steve,
Allen is right - - unscrupulous retailers occasionally found it in
their best interest to grind off
: [Phono-L] Special Columbia Record Duster
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On Nov 18, 2007, at 12:33 PM, gpaul2...@aol.com wrote:
Three
Bruce,
I don't believe I've ever seen a Linenoid horn for Victor - that's a rare bird!
George
-Original Message-
From: valecnik57-p...@yahoo.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:15 am
Subject: [Phono-L] Linenoid Horn
I have a black linenoid horn
drawn into the mysterious world of wooden horns
far deeper than I ever thought I would be!
J
gpaul2...@aol.com wrote:
Victor did not manufacture its own metal flower horns, as the Aug. 22, 1905
patent date will attest: that patent was the property of the Tea Tray Company.?
We see this date
Andy,
Looks like you're narrowing the window of possibility for your machine's
manufacture - and the clues were right there all along!? I don't have a sense
of how long it took for new patent dates to appear on Edison dataplates, as
this would imply that newly-patented features appeared on
Andy,
Yes, I think you're on the right track. The Form 632 on the A-80 is beneath
the cabinet.
George
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Rob,
Gee - it will be weird not to see you at Union, Rob! Hope everything is okay.
The book should be coming in around the first of June - - I'll send it to you
as soon as it arrives.
Regards,
George
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From: zonophone2...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Hello, group!
Some of you may know Dave Stout, a collector from Chula Vista, California. He
just picked up a Grafonola Grand (the one shaped like a baby grand piano), and
is looking for technical information or an instruction manual for it - a copy
would be fine (I think). I couldn't help
In the matter of the Taiwan Berliners, identification is made simple because
there are numbers to look for. The spring case will be marked 34371 and the
sound box will be 18425. These repro Berliners appeared in the spring of 1976
and originally sold for $425. Hope this helps,
George Paul
Suellen:
It's an American crate - the type used for a Victrola IV.
George Paul
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From: gpaul2...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Protective Coatings on Brass Horns
My friend George Glastris's comments are well put. I have several pieces
of lacquered
Dave was truly a gentleman, and a decent human being.
During a two-day photo shoot for our books, Dave not only opened every
drawer and cabinet we wanted to investigate, but schlepped machines
shoulder-to-shoulder with us. We turned his beautiful home and barn
upside-down, but
The Columbia Multiplex Grand did indeed exist - and one of the two known
examples built may someday miraculously show up. We illustrated the only known
piece from a Multiplex Grand in our first book (The Talking Machine
Compendium), and the upcoming second edition will include the same
be helpful.
Thanks very much!
George Paul gpaul2...@aol.com
From ryansrecords1 Wed Apr 21 00:31:48 2004
From: ryansrecords1 (Ryan Barna)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] FS--Santa Hides in Phonograph
Message-ID: bay13-f57x25olqwytm0...@hotmail.com
I have an extra copy
Gpaul2000 Mon Apr 26 15:38:47 2004
From: Gpaul2000 (gpaul2...@aol.com)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:39 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison A/B-80 Survey Results
Message-ID: 145.27f5649d.2dbec...@aol.com
It's been a week or so, and I've heard from exactly TWO people about their
Diamond Disc A-80 and B-80
Mike:
I recently heard this cylinder played in a private collection. It is
indeed 150tpi, and looks like a normal Blue Amberol. Arrangements have been
made to record this cylinder, and it will be among several interesting
recordings on a CD that Tim Fabrizio and I plan to include in an
Group:
I just have to say something about the California Antique Phonograph
Society Journal. The latest issue arrived here yesterday, and, as usual, it's
terrific. Editor Rene Rondeau does a superb job of compiling articles and
photos into a Jounal of substance. Rene won't toot the
I wasn't going to jump into this one, but decided to share an interesting (at
least I thought it was interesting!) tidbit about Roadshow. A friend who
is quite knowledgeable of British militaria saw an 18th century dragoon helmet
being examined on the show. My friend took immediate notice
I must state up front that Mis Master's Voice paintings are not my forte.
That said, I agree that this example doesn't look like a Barraud work to me.
I'm sure someone else could offer a more erudite view!
George Paul
I have two independent mechanics and a local muffler chain shop nearby that
I've found helpful to play off each other. Whenever I need a big ticket
repair (shocks/struts, alternator, ball joints, etc.), I'll get estimates from
at
least two of them. If I have a preference for who does the work
Hi list -
I know that many of you have ordered our upcoming book, The Talking Machine
Compendium, Second Edition from either Tim or myself. I'll bet some of you
are watching the mailbox, as this is the traditional time we get them and start
mailing them out.
Last week, Schiffer Publishing
Loran -
I'm so sorry to hear about Janet. I think I speak for all of us in
wishing that our sharing your grief might lighten your load a little. You,
David, and your family will be in our prayers. Bless you all - -
George Paul
number (middle bottom of ID
plate). I'm hoping to put whatever I learn into print before too long, with
your
help.
Thanks, and a very Merry Christmas to all of you - -
George Paul
gpaul2...@aol.com
John:
You may want to check your lock code again. My lyre-grille 1A has
lock code 6MAC10. Are you sure there's not a zero at the end of yours?
I'd be interested in a reproduction key, if any are ever made.
George Paul
John:
My lyre grill 1A is No.2876.
George Paul
Rob:
Yes, Victor rigid-arms have been reproduced - some beautifully. Be
careful!
George Paul
The O soundbox is correct for the early Victrola IV (as is the
Exhibition). She show an early IV with the O soundbox in our first book,
as well
as the soon-to-be-published Talking Machine Compendium, Second, Revised
Edition. Personally, I think the O soundbox is cooler!
George Paul
Greg:
Your cylinder (Afloat On A Five-Dollar Note) was released in August,
1906 - about the time that Edison was forbidden to use his U.S. patent
No.414,761 of 1889, which specified internally moulded spiral ribs for cylinder
records. James Andem, who had managed the Ohio Phonograph
More information on the Business Phonographs can be found in Frow's 1994
Edison Cylinder Phonograph Companion beginning on page 326. These machines
were
first described in the April and May 1903 issues of the Edison Phonograph
Monthly, and referred to as Commercial Phonographs.
I'm puzzled
Loran:
I concur with Art's assessment of the situation. To paraphrase
Barnum, you can't please all the people all the time, especially the vagaries
of
human psyche. You're doing just fine -- carry on, my friend.
George Paul
Victor's 7 double-sided A Record for the Children was supplied in
1900-1901 with the Johnson/Victor Toy. In 1904 Columbia released a few 10
double-sided discs, but quickly reverted to the single-sided format. Then, as
stated
here on the list, Columbia began monthly releases of double-sided
Steve:
Yes, all 5 of the unground edge discs here have etched labels of the
two later patterns, and none of them have the same selection on both sides.
Judging the various sides is naturally subjective - after all, a particular
side might simply be less worn than its inverse. But it
Bob:
Allen's phone number was (718) 941-6835, but with all the area code
changes, the first three digits may be wrong now. Have Gregg give it a try and
see...
George Paul
Thanks, David for your kind words about the article I wrote on the
early Home Phonographs in the Sound Box. From Peter's question, it seems
as
though the word still isn't out on that publication. People collect antique
phonographs for a variety of reasons, but if you're among those
In a message dated 10/6/2006 3:39:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pjfra...@alamedanet.net writes:
he never sings awful old 60s pop songs, either,
honest, i swear!
Oh my - I BEG TO DIFFER!!! I had a full head of hair when we started writing
these books...!
George Paul
No, we never shot video while working on the books -- six or eight hours with
a 35mm SLR was our limit!
You're talking about two different knowledge bases. Our focus (pardon the
pun) was to preserve a historical record, and once between covers in the hands
of collectors, that knowledge would
Jerry:
I'd definitely go for the upside-down decal. This is only the second
instance of the anomoly I'm aware of. (The Vernis-Martin example is in our
upcoming book, A World of Antique Phonographs.) I have a golden oak XVI
myself, but I'd trade it in a heartbeat for one with an
down its 5 characteristics as outlined above, and send me
an email off list at gpaul2...@aol.com. I'll be happy to include your name in
the acknowledgments unless you prefer anonymity. Thanks in advance - -
George Paul
Thanks, Rob - looking forward to hearing from you!
Best,
George
Hi, group -
I want to thank everyone who helped with the Edison Home survey I sent out
a few weeks ago. Several of you even included additional information such as
indented mandrels, type of speaker clips, and number of lines beneath the D
on the cover decal. Thanks again! I'm in the process
Hi, group -
Just wondering if there's anyone out there who owns a Home numbered LOWER
than #8621 with a NICKELED mandrel?
Also wondering if anyone owns a Home numbered HIGHER than #7420 with a
BRASS mandrel?
Many thanks -
George Paul
In a message dated 1/15/2006 2:28:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aph4...@aol.com writes:
With all this talk about what is real and what is not, you might want to
look at page 52 in Fabrizio an Paul's Phonographs with Flair. There is a
Craftsman machine and case which is very similar to
Keep your eyes open for Edison DD phonos at local auctions, and pay
particular attention to ratty Edison consoles. If you can find a 1-C,
2-C,
3-C, or 4-C, it will be factory equipped with LP equipment. I've found 2
of
them this way - one for $5.00 (and that included both reproducers); the
If the dimensions to cite are outside measurements, I'd presume that your
cabinet was designed for a Victor III.
Photographs of various styles of the Cabinet That Matches (and some related
printed materials) can be found in Antique Phonograph Accessories
Contraptions (Figures 4-53, 4-54,
Randy:
There were a couple of manufacturers of sectional record cabinets like
the one on eBay. The Ogden Sectional Cabinet Company of Lynchburg VA.
advertised a cabinet quite similar to the eBay example as early as April 1919.
It
was available in oak or birch mahogany (as seen on
No, Corning Glass didn't make them. Paul Baker tried Corning, but the quote
was exorbitant. He found a small group of craftsmen in Buffalo to made them
until the little guild broke up, after completing 94 horns, as was mentioned
earlier.
George Paul
Thanks group, for the rapid - and I mean rapid - response to my query about
Dan Melvin's email address. I've contacted him, and soon all will be right
with the world...
I hope everyone is having weather as nice as what we're enjoying here in
western New York State!
Best to all,
George Paul
I'd say that his doubts were focused on disc records in this instance! I had
no idea that Lloyd Kelley was modifying phonographs this way...
George Paul
Hello, group!
I'm trying to contact a collector named Paul Horgan. I met him at
Wayne, NJ a couple of years ago, and even shot an item we're using in our next
book. But I have no address or phone number for him. I don't find his name in
any of my directories. Can anyone help me find
Bruce:
Thanks - I finally found Paul through Mike Davecka. Hey - that sounds
like the end of I Am The Walrus doesn't it? I finally found Paul...
Something like that...
George Paul, John, Ringo
If by tiger striped you mean oxidized bronze, that reproducer would have
been intended for an A-150 or early production B-150. There should be a
volume control built into the neck of the reproducer and the 4-screw stylus
bar
mount should be present. These reproducers don't show up too
In a message dated 4/6/2006 1:19:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
steve_nor...@msn.com writes:
Copper oxidation was available on certain A machines which had certain
finishes. For example the A 250 had two colors of motor boards which were
offered with certain woods and certain metal
Tyrone is right: the P indicated Parlor (Zonophone's 7 disc) while C
denoted Concert (which was Zonophone's 9 disc). These names came into use
after the demise of the National Gramophone Corporation in September 1901, and
the reorganization of Universal into the Universal Talking Machine
Randy:
If you have a copy of the Second Edition of our book, The Talking
Machine Compendium, you'll find The Destruction of San Francisco on the
audio
CD inside the back cover.
George Paul
A Crescent phonograph such as you described in a barrister-type bookcase
appears (in three views) in our upcoming book. This example belongs to Richard
and Nancyann Brown. The machine is quite an oddity!
George Paul
...the one find you never saw coming? I'll bet the challange for many of us
on this list would be to narrow it down to one! For myself, I saw relatively
few phono-finds coming -- it was mostly dumb luck, augmented a bit by
persistance. Well, here's a good story with a bad ending...
I
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