About the Microsoft documentation of SOAP-RPC ... see
SoapRpcMethodAttributeClass and the example,
go to:
HYPERLINK
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpref/
html/frlrfsystemwebservicesprotocolssoaprpcmethodattributeclasstopic.asp
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Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb Lukas Smith
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What is the current status in terms of SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL in php?
How mature
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From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I think it's important to have a main stream soap
Am Thu, 23 May 2002 18:03:43 +0200 schrieb Lukas Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think it would make sense to create such a mailinglist.
As I am still fairly busy with working on a merge of Metabase and PEAR
DB called MDB (blatant plug :-) ) I can't spend as much time as I would
wish on this
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From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I think it's important to have
Markus Wolff wrote:
Am Thu, 23 May 2002 17:12:34 +0200 schrieb Lukas Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So feature-wise is PHP on par with SOAP::Lite?
From what I have heard people seemed to have talked quite favourably
about SOAP::Lite.
I assume documentation-wise PHP lags behind.
I have no
Am Thu, 23 May 2002 10:44:36 -0700 schrieb Shane Caraveo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
SOAP::Lite has the same problem, in fact with simple stuff we've done at
work it's proven to be less interoperable that PEAR::SOAP when it comes
to dealing with .Net. Python is also very lacking in the SOAP arena.
I would be happy to lead the effort on the soap front. I've spoken a
bit with Brad about combining our efforts but got sidetracked over the
last couple weeks so haven't followed up on that. I'm also not sure
whether Deitrich is tied to NuSphere with his work, it'd be nice if we
could get
So do we want a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list? I can set it up if
you say the word.
-Rasmus
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Shane Caraveo wrote:
I would be happy to lead the effort on the soap front. I've spoken a
bit with Brad about combining our efforts but got sidetracked over the
last couple
To: Shane Caraveo
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
Am Thu, 23 May 2002 10:44:36 -0700 schrieb Shane Caraveo
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SOAP::Lite has the same problem, in fact with simple stuff we've
done at
work it's proven to be less
: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
So do we want a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list? I can set it up
if
you say the word.
-Rasmus
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Shane Caraveo wrote:
I would be happy to lead the effort on the soap front. I've spoken
a
bit with Brad about combining our efforts
I would say go for it, but I want to hear from some others first to know
that I wont be talking to myself on an email list ;)
Shane
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
So do we want a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list? I can set it up if
you say the word.
-Rasmus
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Shane Caraveo
Ugh, can't stand 'web services'. But anyway, I think this information
needs to go into regular documentation on php.net and pear.php.net
first, then if there is realy a need for it expand into an additional site.
Shane
Lukas Smith wrote:
It sounds to me like something like
, 2002 8:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
Ugh, can't stand 'web services'. But anyway, I think this information
needs to go into regular documentation on php.net and pear.php.net
first, then if there is realy a need for it expand
+1 :-)
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 11:21:39AM -0700, Shane Caraveo wrote :
I would say go for it, but I want to hear from some others first to know
that I wont be talking to myself on an email list ;)
Shane
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
So do we want a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list? I can
extension.
dietrich
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From: Shane Caraveo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:04 AM
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I would be happy to lead the effort on the soap front. I've spoken a
bit
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I would be happy to lead the effort on the soap front. I've spoken a
bit with Brad about combining our efforts but got sidetracked over
As I mentioned earlier I am a big +1 for it.
Probably php-webservices@ is even better as it covers more and sounds good :)
Andi
At 11:05 23/05/2002 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
So do we want a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list? I can set it up if
you say the word.
-Rasmus
On Thu, 23 May 2002,
Then go for soap, that's fine too.
The most important thing is that we manage to get good SOAP support into
PHP which will work out of the box and can be documented officially in the
manual.
Andi
At 14:08 23/05/2002 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
I really don't like the term Web Services. SOAP
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Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb Lukas Smith
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What is the current status in terms of SOAP
use of WSDL ...
you should have look to http://phpsoaptoolkit.sourceforge.net/phpsoap/
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From: Markus Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: Andi Gutmans
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
I really don't like the term Web Services. SOAP is an RPC mechanism
and
has nothing to do with the web despite what
At 00:08 24/05/2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
I really don't like the term Web Services. SOAP is an RPC mechanism and
has nothing to do with the web despite what M$ would like to have you
think.
I think that's kind of like saying HTML has nothing to do with the web, but
anyway, perception is
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From: Markus Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: jeudi 23 mai 2002 15:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb Lukas Smith
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What
23, 2002 11:29 PM
To: Stig S. Bakken; Andi Gutmans
Cc: phpsurf; Markus Wolff; Lukas Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
One reason is xmlrpc doesn't have everything that goes along with
soap.
meaning WSDL UDDI WebServiceSecurity.
and as far
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:19 PM
To: Stig S. Bakken
Cc: phpsurf; Markus Wolff; Lukas Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
Stig,
I am not keeping up with which PHP SOAP implementations are complete
and
which are not. I guess I am
Well my extension i was going for a solid implmentation of soap that could run
out of the box. With many features and tightly intergrated with zend and other
extensions like domxml and php-streams. I think my extension has some value
here. I would like to see my soap be the soap implementation
Stig S. Bakken said:
PHP already has SOAP support bundled in the xmlrpc extension, which
is built upon the xmlrpc-epi library that we bundle. Why can't
people improve that instead of re-inventing more wheels in all
shapes and sizes? When we bundle a library, we should use it.
- Stig
Stig S. Bakken said:
PHP already has SOAP support bundled in the xmlrpc extension, which
is built upon the xmlrpc-epi library that we bundle. Why can't
people improve that instead of re-inventing more wheels in all
shapes and sizes? When we bundle a library, we should use it.
-
://phpsoaptoolkit.sourceforge.net/phpsoap/
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From: Markus Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: jeudi 23 mai 2002 15:29
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Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
Am Thu, 23 May 2002
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Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb Lukas Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What is the current status in terms of SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL in
php?
How mature
On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 23:38, Markus Wolff wrote:
Stig S. Bakken said:
PHP already has SOAP support bundled in the xmlrpc extension, which
is built upon the xmlrpc-epi library that we bundle. Why can't
people improve that instead of re-inventing more wheels in all
shapes and sizes? When
Unless some work has been done on it, I found it very lacking. Many
things are hardcoded in C that would make it hardly interoperable with
other implementations.
Shane
In fact, xmlrpc-epi also supports SOAP:
---[SNIP]---
As of Sept. 27, 2001, experimental support for SOAP v 1.1 has been
On Thu, 23 May 2002 20:08:48 +0200, Lukas Smith wrote:
It sounds to me like something like webservices.php.net would be in
order.
I don't think that having yet another subdomain does make much
sense. Actually I prefer to have documentation for whatever
comes out of this discussion in the PHP or
--- Stig S. Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 00:10, brad lafountain wrote:
--- Stig S. Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 23:28, brad lafountain wrote:
One reason is xmlrpc doesn't have everything that goes along with soap.
meaning WSDL
On Thu, 23 May 2002 15:27:00 -0700, Shane Caraveo wrote:
Markus Wolff wrote:
The best thinkable solutions would be:
a) Bundle a library like PEAR::SOAP with PHP that is modified in a
way that it automatically detects if the xmlrpc-epi extension is
installed. If so, PEAR::SOAP only acts
At 00:08 24/05/2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
I really don't like the term Web Services. SOAP is an RPC mechanism and
has nothing to do with the web despite what M$ would like to have you
think.
I think that's kind of like saying HTML has nothing to do with the web, but
anyway, perception is
I think the point Zeev was making is that in real life these days many
decision makers are looking for the web services buzz word when choosing a
technology. Telling them PHP supports web services can only be a good
thing in the fight against MS and other giants. In many people's perception
At 02:04 24/05/2002 +0300, Andi Gutmans wrote:
I think the point Zeev was making is that in real life these days many
decision makers are looking for the web services buzz word when choosing a
technology. Telling them PHP supports web services can only be a good
thing in the fight against MS
So this is what I propose...
setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further conversation.
As a starting point
PEAR::SOAP is a script wrapper around a C level extension. It's
available in absence of the C extension, and for additional features
that don't make sence to implement in C, or for fast
At 16:21 23/05/2002 -0700, Shane Caraveo wrote:
So this is what I propose...
setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further conversation.
Yep.
As a starting point
PEAR::SOAP is a script wrapper around a C level extension. It's
available in absence of the C extension, and for additional features
Ok, [EMAIL PROTECTED] now exists. If it turns out that a general web
services list is needed, we'll create that, but for more let's simply
move all the SOAP-specific discussion to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
list.
Subscribe to it by sending a subscribe request to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Rasmus
At 01:39 24/05/2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
Well, HTML is an intrical part of the Web and I don't see how that can be
compared to SOAP at all. In order for SOAP to be part of the Web it needs
to conform to the HTTP protocol and to the concepts that defines the Web.
It doesn't do that at all
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
Ok, [EMAIL PROTECTED] now exists. If it turns out that a general web
services list is needed, we'll create that, but for more let's simply
move all the SOAP-specific discussion to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
list.
Subscribe to it by sending a subscribe request to
I'd really like stuff like this to build out of the box in PHP.
Bundling expat was great because we didn't have to think about it
anymore. My impression is that libxml2 is rarely installed by default
(GNOME still uses 1.8 for instance). But I guess we'll have to deal
with that sooner
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