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1.Add a mime/type application/x-httpd-php-xhtml to mark xhtml
mode.
2.disable short-tags and asp-tags in xhtml mode.
3.add php ... /php instead ? ... ?
and php-v eval=/ instead ?= ?
4.ignore '![CDATA
of embedding PHP in
XHTML files. IMHO we have more than enough start/end tags already.
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are taken, // is the best suggestion I can come up with.
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Hey,
I just started playing around with the parser to support the
namespaces syntax Stig laid out in his RFC. I think I've thought of an
ambiguity
of quotes at least)
Uhm, % and * are taken for modulo and multiplication.
So how do these look:
HTML\Table - looks too 1980
HTML|Table - hmm, weird
I still think Zeev's suggestion (HTML::Table) is very good, if it
doesn't impose too much runtime overhead.
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like that approach)
As do I... Andi, Zeev - are there technical problems with this?
We're working according to the RFC - namespaces and classes are
separate entities.
Yes, but it seems the RFC has gotten some Comments, it may be time for
a revised version.
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. That's why I haven't failed to
mention, every time I mentioned it, that a better name would be
better. We can have exit_with_status(), silent_exit(), etc.
exit_with_status() is good.
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I'm proud to announce that our second daughter, Benedicte, was born
tonight 2001-09-29 at 0300 MEST. Technical data: 3380 grams, 50
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But just to get back to release frequency, I do think we release too
seldom. There's a lot of process in place now, with a QA branch and
all. I think this process is good, but it's congesting
chello.nl that was doing that.
Hehe, that's Bugstah, an IRC robot that updates the subject of
#php.bugs with the number of open bugs. It's a sobering experience,
btw. :-P
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because I redefinition errors of all kind.
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version?
We'll need to add something like that. Either a function, a standard
method or when ZE2 comes a static class variable.
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risk management tool) thinks it's dangerous to
start messing with internal types without knowing exactly what the
consequences are, preferably with some experience (own or others) to
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not be used for something like this (undefining classes).
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Is it currently possible to undefine user functions or classes at
runtime? Although not a newbie ;) I'm unsure if its possible
right
. Please tell me you were kidding.
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is an ex-colleague of mine, I'm the one who encouraged him to
contribute this extension. It's a high-performance session management
system that can be used in clusters (many redundant web servers). The
performance numbers I've seen so far are very impressive.
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What's up? Did the 4.0 bug summary report grow too big for the list
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change, but it's not affecting this extension, but I'm not yet 100%
sure it would help. I'll think some more about it after some
breakfast and two cups of coffee. ;-)
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+1, perhaps from an api perspective we could have something like:
$vn = php_get_version(GD);
or if the argument is empty, return the main php
there, intended for PEAR.
Anything we can use?
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like we're going to add more single-character aliases, so I don't buy
the feature creep argument either.
L_A! (leave _ alone!)
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lately gives him
the right to fix his changes before you or anyone else reverts them
(they're here now, give him a chance).
Finally, if the changes _are_ going to be reverted, give Jeroen some
respect and let him do it.
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to remove PHP from the freshmeat.net archive (and I am sure no-one
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for all potentially clashing symbols in the ext/odbc
source. It's not there anymore though, and that's mostly my fault. I
guess we could go back to that model.
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it?
This is a question for php-general, not php-dev. But anyway, take a
look at the strspn and strcspn functions.
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a way to currently do such a return and get at the returned
value after the call to zend_execute_scripts(). Any suggestions?
Print a header and catch it from the Apache module, or use
apache_note()?
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worked that way so long (and not bad at all).
We can't encourage people to use E_ALL and at the same time have silly
errors like this one. :-)
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written in C too. :-)
The way you have your files organized above, the classes should be
named ADT_Queue and so on.
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can get within each of these. It is also something that the customer
does not host himself.
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I would like to add myself as maintainer of dbx to the EXTENSIONS file, but
my karma is not sufficient to do this myself...
So if somebody could do this for me, or upgrade my karma, that would be nice
:)
Fixed.
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as powerful enablers for PHP
going in this direction.
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still depend on Zeev, Andi or someone else @ Zend to implement them.
An RFC system would be a support for Zend's decision-making. At the
end of the day, due to the licensing issues, php-dev is not the body
governing the language, it has an advisory role only.
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, but I
figured I'd bring it up :)
Hey, let's not become C, I think they're just right. Usually when I
stat a file, I only need one attribute.
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[Hi,
I think one of the problems with this is that even if php-dev comes up
with a system for determining which feature it wants to see in PHP, we
still depend
to you, it will be useful to others. Go for it.
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% sure we'll get indent to do what we
want, but we should find out and see if it can be done. I have
started making an indent config file for PEAR, but that is indenting
PHP code, so it's kinda different.
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. Shift_JIS actually
does not define the tilde character, so iconv bailed out and returned
an empty string (the solution is using codepage 932 instead when
people ask for Shift_JIS. Bleh.)
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hear some feedback:
- Keep it as $_FORM
- $_USER
- $_CLIENT
- Be extra careful - $_UNTRUSTED
- $_INPUT
Of these I think $_INPUT bears the least confusion. To me, $_USER
sounds like something session-related, $_CLIENT sounds like something
to do with user-agent.
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() patch and
other patches soon when he gets some time. We'll add it to PEAR DB
then, and return not capable if the function does not exist.
Hopefully we'll have it by PHP 4.0.7.
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Now we're talking! I assume it is not straightforward, what are the
technical challenges in doing JIT module initialization?
It's not much of a challenge really. If we decide it should be done,
it can be done
initialization?
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suggesting we take away the possibility of loading
extensions at run-time?
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sort of is one of PEAR's foundations.
Let's try to fix these problems rather than cripping PHP.
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not then
think of any other functions for which this kind of behaviour would
work :)
With such a php_portability() function, it would be _even_ harder to
write portable library code (because you need to handle both
settings). Two wrongs won't make this one right. :-)
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would be a good compromise?
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With such a php_portability() function, it would be _even_ harder to
write portable library code (because you need to handle both
settings). Two wrongs won't
system has a real good / very special one)
For backwards compatibility, mt_* can be aliased to their normal
equivalents.
Please don't. Ini settings that change semantics are a bother, and
people should be able to choose their random function.
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it down. We should rather see what problems caching presents us
with and try to resolve them.
Absolutely. There's a reason for config.cache's existence. :-)
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Hi,
I would like to suggest that we change how . in the include_path is
treated to being relative to the file doing an include, instead of
relative to the main script file. There was some mention of this a few
weeks ago, and it's a problem for PEAR users
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No. We have a naming/filesystem scheme and we have a versioning
scheme. Version information should not be reflected by the
filesystem.
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with the
questions implementors sometimes forget.
On the other hand, Zeev and Andi may not want to prioritize their time
on this, since a real language specification would clear the path for
alternate parser implementations.
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, to create these basefiles with the
application wizard of kdevelop?
IMHO it's ok to use the skeleton files and change the license, even to
a commercial closed-source one. I don't know about others' HO
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There are no plans for adding MT to PHP itself, but you do have a
poor man's cooperative multi-threading through ticks.
Are these documented anywhere?
Uhm, it seems not. Me fix.
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I've been strugling for some time with the possibility of building some
extension not inside of ext/ dir, but using phpize to just add some
is to add a check whether write() works on
the system before using it.
Are there any objections to such a change?
Since the change is local to the CGI SAPI, I see no problems with it.
Using fwrite in conjunction with mmap is just wasteful anyway.
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for everyone to build his favorite extension
#ifdef HAVE_CONFIG_H
#include config.h
#endif
phpize will add HAVE_CONFIG_H as of 4.0.6.
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the number of lines!
Anyway, I'd like to see $this assignment in constructor:
1. dismissed as a bug
2. documented as a feature, or
3. subject to discussion resulting in (1) or (2)
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the array is fully
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should go out of our way to break people's
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process between micro versions
has become, it's just getting weirder.
I think we should take a good look at the 4.1 TODO and split into a
4.1 and 4.2 TODO, and have 4.1 out sooner, maybe even as the next
release after 4.0.6.
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Acknowledged. But IMO the arrays will be either clearly continous or
clearly associative/non-continous in 99.2% of the cases (Zeev
statistics applied).
I never claim to be accurate, I usually say 99% :)
I
ourselves into. :-P
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the numeric indices)
Why not have both numerical and descriptive indices? Backwards
compatible, slightly bloatish, but not really a problem.
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that are available ?
There's an example on how to document a classes in
phpdoc/en/pear/pear.xml.
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, see http://www/dns/bind/bind-sdb/. If you look at
^^^
I guess this will take most people to somewhere else than they
expect. :-)
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-source, IMHO Zend Ltd. have a bigger obligation to the PHP
community to document all of the API than if Zend carried, say, a BSD
license (because then it'd be more natural for the community to chip in).
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, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe?
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still use PHP 3. IMHO we should offer it for
download, but be less active in supporting it.
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of classes, functions, documented globals,
which parameters are accepted by functions/methods and their
semantics/behaviour.
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IMHO it's a simple scheme that should be easy to understand for
extension developers and users.
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the new defaults). Sorry for being a bit slow, I'm
spending most of my spare time transforming the jungle outside my
house to something more lawn-ish these days. :-)
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sensitivity, while allowing case insensitivity as a
non-default option.
Ouch. What about making case sensitivity an option that is disabled
by default in 4.1, and changing the default for 4.2. IMHO changing
this default alone is enough to warrant the 4.1 - 4.2 transition.
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activity on the
main trunk, IMHO it would be better to do two RCs).
We'll always have the problem of I need to MFH this, pretty please,
but I think that started working well at the end of the 4.0.5 QA. :-)
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[Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
At 05:52 AM 5/3/2001 -0400, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
We'll always have the problem of I need to MFH this, pretty please,
but I think that started working well at the end of the 4.0.5 QA. :-)
I actually also think that on a whole 4.0.5's release process
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That won't be much of a name.
(...or has Adresseavisa started printing a Sunday edition?)
That was of course supposed to be saturday. :-)
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the RedHat-installed MySQL. Run as root:
echo 'ln -s /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock /tmp/mysql.sock' /etc/rc.d/rc.local
eval `tail -1 /etc/rc.d/rc.local`
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recode is GPL'd IIRC and thus (your mileage may vary) not very
usable, doesn't build on win32 systems, and the author has
no interest in changing that.
libiconv is pretty good too. I don't know if it builds on Win32
though.
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need to be released, don't you think? :-)
I'm pretty sure Zend will make a 4.0.5 version of their products
available on the same day 4.0.5 is released.
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At 17:47 23/4/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
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Zeev Suraski wrote:
This broke the Win32 build, and when I went to fix it, I couldn't
find the letter with the diffs for this change. Any idea why it
wasn't sent
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default php.ini path: now using --sysconfdir option, defaults to
/usr/local/etc ("configure --sysconfdir=/usr/local/lib" for old behaviour)
While I completely sympathize with the motivation, I think this has a
Hi,
In an attempt to conform more to GNU-ish standards, I've changed some
default install paths.
default php.ini path: now using --sysconfdir option, defaults to
/usr/local/etc ("configure --sysconfdir=/usr/local/lib" for old behaviour)
PEAR install directory: now using --datadir option,
[Andrei Zmievski [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote:
This could result in really confusing and unpredictable behavior if "the first
encountered definition" changed under any circumstances. I'd vote for making
any name conflicts an error.
You could have two
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