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Does anyone object to the following patch to the PHP configure system?
It removes the --disable-pear flag in favor of a new --with-pear
option. The --with-pair option also allows the specification of the
PEAR installation directory at compilation time. For
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Is there a reason the $'s were escape, or can I commit my fix?
If EXTENSION_DIR/INCLUDE_PATH are used outside makefiles,
your patch should be applied.
They are used outside makefiles, but they should be as separate
variables that are expanded.
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4. The CGI version of PHP is always built and installed.
It would be nice if we could disable this, like: --without-cgi
I'll add it.
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1. Using --datadir to determine where PEAR PHP files go. With
--datadir=/usr/share or --datadir=/usr/share/php, PHP architecture
independent files go to /usr/share/php, and PEAR's PHP
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4. The CGI version of PHP is always built and installed.
I think this should be optional.
Perhaps optionally disabled.. --without-cgi?
I would go for optionally on, I really dont want to build both
Sorry for breaking the build guys, I promise I'll sleep more and test
more next time.
Sascha, what symbols can sneak in to break linking? A few examples I
can test with would be nice.
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Sascha, what symbols can sneak in to break linking? A few examples I
can test with would be nice.
As other people on this list have mentioned, building
--with-apxs illustrates the breakage.
The chosen SAPI module (i.e.
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(could we have some nice 'codenames' for the releases? Please.. :)
Hey, what if we name them after the third noun on page five of your
(finnish) morning paper at the day of RC1 (using GMT)? :-)
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(could we have some nice 'codenames' for the releases? Please.. :)
Hey, what if we name them after the third noun on page five of your
(finnish) morning paper at the day of RC1 (using GMT)? :-)
Why not norwegian morning paper? :)
Sure. Then it'll be
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Hello,
Is it possible to write PHP extentions in Perl and where can I get some
documentation on it?
Why on earth would you want to do something like that?
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I've been looking everywhere for a good reference of how to read and
update arrays. The Zend documentation
(www.zend.com/apidoc) has descriptions of how to create
an array, and how to add elements to it, but I can't find anything on how
to simply read the
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Is it possible to write PHP extentions in Perl [...]
Why on earth would you want to do something like that?
Why on earth woudl someone want to use COM or JAVA with PHP
or even
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Has there ever been any thought about an extension-dir directive. I
don't know what everyone else thinks, but I personally get tired of
/usr/local/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-whatever-zendapinum.
I think just having an option to force them in
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JT Ah, that's another way to say "When Andi and Zeev implement it" :-)
JT
JT Like..never? :)
Generally, since PHP is not a strongly typed language, it's not too hard
to
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Either the extention you want comes with PHP, or you get it from PEAR. I
don't think that's too non-inuitive. :)
Of course, no matter what we decide, there is nothing to stop people from
*not* contributing their code into the main PEAR repository.
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Ok, let me just see if I understand...
move everything out of the distribution (from mysql popular extensions
like mysql to hardly used ones like qtdom), and then, come release time,
package a predefined set of
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Is there a list of modules that stays ?
One of the things I've noticed on this topic is that a few
folks tend to think that their particular technology should
be used everywhere, and therefore, it should always be
installed on
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To continue a tangent... I don't like the idea of having the PEAR
fetching/installation mechanism written in PHP (already some base code in
PEAR to do this). It seems to me that it forces the user to download/build
PHP and then download and rebuild PHP
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*BLAM*
That's the sound of someone shooting himself in the foot. The PEAR
installer needs the XML extension. :-)
What do you mean? Has work started on this already?
I'm not quite sure what you mean
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Generally, since PHP is not a strongly typed language, it's not too hard
to implement multiple inheritance, I guess. Question is - is it worth the
effort? Does it need to be done?
With multiple
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This could result in really confusing and unpredictable behavior if "the first
encountered definition" changed under any circumstances. I'd vote for making
any name conflicts an error.
You could have two
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How about turning all extentions into loadable modules only?
That way you compile the core PHP engine, run the PEAR scrips to select,
download and compile additional modules. After that the config is updated
to dynamically load the new modules at startup.
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default php.ini path: now using --sysconfdir option, defaults to
/usr/local/etc ("configure --sysconfdir=/usr/local/lib" for old behaviour)
While I completely sympathize with the motivation, I think this has a
Hi,
In an attempt to conform more to GNU-ish standards, I've changed some
default install paths.
default php.ini path: now using --sysconfdir option, defaults to
/usr/local/etc ("configure --sysconfdir=/usr/local/lib" for old behaviour)
PEAR install directory: now using --datadir option,
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Zeev Suraski wrote:
This broke the Win32 build, and when I went to fix it, I couldn't
find the letter with the diffs for this change. Any idea why it
wasn't sent
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need to be released, don't you think? :-)
I'm pretty sure Zend will make a 4.0.5 version of their products
available on the same day 4.0.5 is released.
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recode is GPL'd IIRC and thus (your mileage may vary) not very
usable, doesn't build on win32 systems, and the author has
no interest in changing that.
libiconv is pretty good too. I don't know if it builds on Win32
though.
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and read the
list)?
The mail is forwarded to the address listed in the cvsusers file
(http://cvs.php.net/viewcvs.cgi/CVSROOT/cvsuser). Drop a mail to
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activity on the
main trunk, IMHO it would be better to do two RCs).
We'll always have the problem of I need to MFH this, pretty please,
but I think that started working well at the end of the 4.0.5 QA. :-)
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We'll always have the problem of I need to MFH this, pretty please,
but I think that started working well at the end of the 4.0.5 QA. :-)
I actually also think that on a whole 4.0.5's release process
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That won't be much of a name.
(...or has Adresseavisa started printing a Sunday edition?)
That was of course supposed to be saturday. :-)
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the RedHat-installed MySQL. Run as root:
echo 'ln -s /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock /tmp/mysql.sock' /etc/rc.d/rc.local
eval `tail -1 /etc/rc.d/rc.local`
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sensitivity, while allowing case insensitivity as a
non-default option.
Ouch. What about making case sensitivity an option that is disabled
by default in 4.1, and changing the default for 4.2. IMHO changing
this default alone is enough to warrant the 4.1 - 4.2 transition.
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-source, IMHO Zend Ltd. have a bigger obligation to the PHP
community to document all of the API than if Zend carried, say, a BSD
license (because then it'd be more natural for the community to chip in).
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, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe?
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still use PHP 3. IMHO we should offer it for
download, but be less active in supporting it.
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of classes, functions, documented globals,
which parameters are accepted by functions/methods and their
semantics/behaviour.
-- snip --
IMHO it's a simple scheme that should be easy to understand for
extension developers and users.
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the new defaults). Sorry for being a bit slow, I'm
spending most of my spare time transforming the jungle outside my
house to something more lawn-ish these days. :-)
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that are available ?
There's an example on how to document a classes in
phpdoc/en/pear/pear.xml.
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, see http://www/dns/bind/bind-sdb/. If you look at
^^^
I guess this will take most people to somewhere else than they
expect. :-)
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the numeric indices)
Why not have both numerical and descriptive indices? Backwards
compatible, slightly bloatish, but not really a problem.
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the array is fully
associative on each operation.
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should go out of our way to break people's
scripts.
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process between micro versions
has become, it's just getting weirder.
I think we should take a good look at the 4.1 TODO and split into a
4.1 and 4.2 TODO, and have 4.1 out sooner, maybe even as the next
release after 4.0.6.
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Acknowledged. But IMO the arrays will be either clearly continous or
clearly associative/non-continous in 99.2% of the cases (Zeev
statistics applied).
I never claim to be accurate, I usually say 99% :)
I
ourselves into. :-P
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the number of lines!
Anyway, I'd like to see $this assignment in constructor:
1. dismissed as a bug
2. documented as a feature, or
3. subject to discussion resulting in (1) or (2)
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is to add a check whether write() works on
the system before using it.
Are there any objections to such a change?
Since the change is local to the CGI SAPI, I see no problems with it.
Using fwrite in conjunction with mmap is just wasteful anyway.
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for everyone to build his favorite extension
#ifdef HAVE_CONFIG_H
#include config.h
#endif
phpize will add HAVE_CONFIG_H as of 4.0.6.
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Hi,
I've been strugling for some time with the possibility of building some
extension not inside of ext/ dir, but using phpize to just add some
with the
questions implementors sometimes forget.
On the other hand, Zeev and Andi may not want to prioritize their time
on this, since a real language specification would clear the path for
alternate parser implementations.
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, to create these basefiles with the
application wizard of kdevelop?
IMHO it's ok to use the skeleton files and change the license, even to
a commercial closed-source one. I don't know about others' HO
though. :-)
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to come out of this can, so put the can in a bucket first. :-)
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There are no plans for adding MT to PHP itself, but you do have a
poor man's cooperative multi-threading through ticks.
Are these documented anywhere?
Uhm, it seems not. Me fix.
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+1
No. We have a naming/filesystem scheme and we have a versioning
scheme. Version information should not be reflected by the
filesystem.
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it down. We should rather see what problems caching presents us
with and try to resolve them.
Absolutely. There's a reason for config.cache's existence. :-)
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Hi,
I would like to suggest that we change how . in the include_path is
treated to being relative to the file doing an include, instead of
relative to the main script file. There was some mention of this a few
weeks ago, and it's a problem for PEAR users
not then
think of any other functions for which this kind of behaviour would
work :)
With such a php_portability() function, it would be _even_ harder to
write portable library code (because you need to handle both
settings). Two wrongs won't make this one right. :-)
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would be a good compromise?
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With such a php_portability() function, it would be _even_ harder to
write portable library code (because you need to handle both
settings). Two wrongs won't
system has a real good / very special one)
For backwards compatibility, mt_* can be aliased to their normal
equivalents.
Please don't. Ini settings that change semantics are a bother, and
people should be able to choose their random function.
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suggesting we take away the possibility of loading
extensions at run-time?
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sort of is one of PEAR's foundations.
Let's try to fix these problems rather than cripping PHP.
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Now we're talking! I assume it is not straightforward, what are the
technical challenges in doing JIT module initialization?
It's not much of a challenge really. If we decide it should be done,
it can be done
hear some feedback:
- Keep it as $_FORM
- $_USER
- $_CLIENT
- Be extra careful - $_UNTRUSTED
- $_INPUT
Of these I think $_INPUT bears the least confusion. To me, $_USER
sounds like something session-related, $_CLIENT sounds like something
to do with user-agent.
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() patch and
other patches soon when he gets some time. We'll add it to PEAR DB
then, and return not capable if the function does not exist.
Hopefully we'll have it by PHP 4.0.7.
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. Shift_JIS actually
does not define the tilde character, so iconv bailed out and returned
an empty string (the solution is using codepage 932 instead when
people ask for Shift_JIS. Bleh.)
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% sure we'll get indent to do what we
want, but we should find out and see if it can be done. I have
started making an indent config file for PEAR, but that is indenting
PHP code, so it's kinda different.
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to you, it will be useful to others. Go for it.
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still depend on Zeev, Andi or someone else @ Zend to implement them.
An RFC system would be a support for Zend's decision-making. At the
end of the day, due to the licensing issues, php-dev is not the body
governing the language, it has an advisory role only.
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, but I
figured I'd bring it up :)
Hey, let's not become C, I think they're just right. Usually when I
stat a file, I only need one attribute.
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[Hi,
I think one of the problems with this is that even if php-dev comes up
with a system for determining which feature it wants to see in PHP, we
still depend
as powerful enablers for PHP
going in this direction.
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can get within each of these. It is also something that the customer
does not host himself.
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I would like to add myself as maintainer of dbx to the EXTENSIONS file, but
my karma is not sufficient to do this myself...
So if somebody could do this for me, or upgrade my karma, that would be nice
:)
Fixed.
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written in C too. :-)
The way you have your files organized above, the classes should be
named ADT_Queue and so on.
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it?
This is a question for php-general, not php-dev. But anyway, take a
look at the strspn and strcspn functions.
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a way to currently do such a return and get at the returned
value after the call to zend_execute_scripts(). Any suggestions?
Print a header and catch it from the Apache module, or use
apache_note()?
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worked that way so long (and not bad at all).
We can't encourage people to use E_ALL and at the same time have silly
errors like this one. :-)
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for all potentially clashing symbols in the ext/odbc
source. It's not there anymore though, and that's mostly my fault. I
guess we could go back to that model.
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to remove PHP from the freshmeat.net archive (and I am sure no-one
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lately gives him
the right to fix his changes before you or anyone else reverts them
(they're here now, give him a chance).
Finally, if the changes _are_ going to be reverted, give Jeroen some
respect and let him do it.
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like we're going to add more single-character aliases, so I don't buy
the feature creep argument either.
L_A! (leave _ alone!)
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there, intended for PEAR.
Anything we can use?
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change, but it's not affecting this extension, but I'm not yet 100%
sure it would help. I'll think some more about it after some
breakfast and two cups of coffee. ;-)
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
+1, perhaps from an api perspective we could have something like:
$vn = php_get_version(GD);
or if the argument is empty, return the main php
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