Re: [PHP-DEV] PEAR Download/Install Tool

2001-04-08 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
["Sean R. Bright" [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Has anyone begun work on a PEAR Download/Install tool as of yet? If not I would like to see what we can come up with in the way of design and then start coding. Anyone? I've written a very simple prototype, take a look at pear/PEAR/Installer.php and

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] --with-pear[=DIR] patch

2001-04-08 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Jon Parise [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Does anyone object to the following patch to the PHP configure system? It removes the --disable-pear flag in favor of a new --with-pear option. The --with-pair option also allows the specification of the PEAR installation directory at compilation time. For

Re: [PHP-DEV] PEAR_INSTALLDIR breakage

2001-04-08 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Sascha Schumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is there a reason the $'s were escape, or can I commit my fix? If EXTENSION_DIR/INCLUDE_PATH are used outside makefiles, your patch should be applied. They are used outside makefiles, but they should be as separate variables that are expanded.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] --with-pear[=DIR] patch

2001-04-08 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 8 Apr 2001, Stig Sther Bakken wrote: 4. The CGI version of PHP is always built and installed. It would be nice if we could disable this, like: --without-cgi I'll add it. - Stig -- Stig Sther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA,

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] --with-pear[=DIR] patch

2001-04-09 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Jon Parise [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 06:21:50PM -0400, Stig Sther Bakken wrote: 1. Using --datadir to determine where PEAR PHP files go. With --datadir=/usr/share or --datadir=/usr/share/php, PHP architecture independent files go to /usr/share/php, and PEAR's PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] --with-pear[=DIR] patch

2001-04-09 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, James Moore wrote: 4. The CGI version of PHP is always built and installed. I think this should be optional. Perhaps optionally disabled.. --without-cgi? I would go for optionally on, I really dont want to build both

[PHP-DEV] always building cgi...

2001-04-10 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
Sorry for breaking the build guys, I promise I'll sleep more and test more next time. Sascha, what symbols can sneak in to break linking? A few examples I can test with would be nice. - Stig -- Stig Sther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] always building cgi...

2001-04-11 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Sascha Schumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sascha, what symbols can sneak in to break linking? A few examples I can test with would be nice. As other people on this list have mentioned, building --with-apxs illustrates the breakage. The chosen SAPI module (i.e.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: ; arg seperator

2001-04-11 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Jani Taskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]] (could we have some nice 'codenames' for the releases? Please.. :) Hey, what if we name them after the third noun on page five of your (finnish) morning paper at the day of RC1 (using GMT)? :-) - Stig -- Stig Sther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search

Re: [PHP-DEV] Codenames for releases..

2001-04-11 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Jani Taskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]] (could we have some nice 'codenames' for the releases? Please.. :) Hey, what if we name them after the third noun on page five of your (finnish) morning paper at the day of RC1 (using GMT)? :-) Why not norwegian morning paper? :) Sure. Then it'll be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Extention development in Perl

2001-04-11 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
["Pieter Claassen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hello, Is it possible to write PHP extentions in Perl and where can I get some documentation on it? Why on earth would you want to do something like that? - Stig -- Stig Sther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway

Re: [PHP-DEV] Hash Functions API

2001-04-11 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
["Brian Foddy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]] I've been looking everywhere for a good reference of how to read and update arrays. The Zend documentation (www.zend.com/apidoc) has descriptions of how to create an array, and how to add elements to it, but I can't find anything on how to simply read the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Extention development in Perl

2001-04-12 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Hartmut Holzgraefe [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Stig Sther Bakken wrote: ["Pieter Claassen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is it possible to write PHP extentions in Perl [...] Why on earth would you want to do something like that? Why on earth woudl someone want to use COM or JAVA with PHP or even

Re: [PHP-DEV] possible --extension-dir directive?

2001-04-16 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
["Jason Greene" [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Has there ever been any thought about an extension-dir directive. I don't know what everyone else thinks, but I personally get tired of /usr/local/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-whatever-zendapinum. I think just having an option to force them in

Re: [PHP-DEV] request

2001-04-17 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[David Guerizec [EMAIL PROTECTED]] "Peter \"[DiSAStA]\" Petermann" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi stas, JT Ah, that's another way to say "When Andi and Zeev implement it" :-) JT JT Like..never? :) Generally, since PHP is not a strongly typed language, it's not too hard to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / TODO-4.1.txt

2001-04-17 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
["Colin Viebrock" [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Either the extention you want comes with PHP, or you get it from PEAR. I don't think that's too non-inuitive. :) Of course, no matter what we decide, there is nothing to stop people from *not* contributing their code into the main PEAR repository.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / TODO-4.1.txt

2001-04-17 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 05:03 17/4/2001, Sterling Hughes wrote: Ok, let me just see if I understand... move everything out of the distribution (from mysql popular extensions like mysql to hardly used ones like qtdom), and then, come release time, package a predefined set of

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / TODO-4.1.txt

2001-04-18 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Ron Chmara [EMAIL PROTECTED]] "Frank M. Kromann" wrote: Is there a list of modules that stays ? One of the things I've noticed on this topic is that a few folks tend to think that their particular technology should be used everywhere, and therefore, it should always be installed on

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / TODO-4.1.txt

2001-04-18 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
["Sean R. Bright" [EMAIL PROTECTED]] To continue a tangent... I don't like the idea of having the PEAR fetching/installation mechanism written in PHP (already some base code in PEAR to do this). It seems to me that it forces the user to download/build PHP and then download and rebuild PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / TODO-4.1.txt

2001-04-19 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 06:53 PM 4/18/2001 -0400, Stig Sther Bakken wrote: *BLAM* That's the sound of someone shooting himself in the foot. The PEAR installer needs the XML extension. :-) What do you mean? Has work started on this already? I'm not quite sure what you mean

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / TODO-4.1.txt

2001-04-20 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 08:13 AM 4/19/2001 -0400, Stig Sther Bakken wrote: To be quite blunt, I don't have the time to implement this in C. I've tried to get people involved in the strategy for PEAR for months and months. It's typical that nobody reacts until after

Re: [PHP-DEV] request

2001-04-20 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Andrei Zmievski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Generally, since PHP is not a strongly typed language, it's not too hard to implement multiple inheritance, I guess. Question is - is it worth the effort? Does it need to be done? With multiple

Re: [PHP-DEV] request

2001-04-21 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Andrei Zmievski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote: This could result in really confusing and unpredictable behavior if "the first encountered definition" changed under any circumstances. I'd vote for making any name conflicts an error. You could have two

Re: [PHP-DEV] cvs: php4 / TODO-4.1.txt

2001-04-21 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Fredrik Ohrn [EMAIL PROTECTED]] How about turning all extentions into loadable modules only? That way you compile the core PHP engine, run the PEAR scrips to select, download and compile additional modules. After that the config is updated to dynamically load the new modules at startup.

Re: [PHP-DEV] unix install paths changed

2001-04-22 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 04:25 22/4/2001, Stig Sther Bakken wrote: default php.ini path: now using --sysconfdir option, defaults to /usr/local/etc ("configure --sysconfdir=/usr/local/lib" for old behaviour) While I completely sympathize with the motivation, I think this has a

[PHP-DEV] unix install paths changed

2001-04-22 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
Hi, In an attempt to conform more to GNU-ish standards, I've changed some default install paths. default php.ini path: now using --sysconfdir option, defaults to /usr/local/etc ("configure --sysconfdir=/usr/local/lib" for old behaviour) PEAR install directory: now using --datadir option,

Re: [PHP-DEV] unix install paths changed

2001-04-23 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 17:47 23/4/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: [Sebastian Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Zeev Suraski wrote: This broke the Win32 build, and when I went to fix it, I couldn't find the letter with the diffs for this change. Any idea why it wasn't sent

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timeout Function:

2001-04-24 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
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Re: [PHP-DEV] sprintf and strings with NULL byte

2001-04-25 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
:-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Optimizer

2001-04-28 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
need to be released, don't you think? :-) I'm pretty sure Zend will make a 4.0.5 version of their products available on the same day 4.0.5 is released. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http

Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.0.6

2001-04-30 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Cynic [EMAIL PROTECTED]] recode is GPL'd IIRC and thus (your mileage may vary) not very usable, doesn't build on win32 systems, and the author has no interest in changing that. libiconv is pretty good too. I don't know if it builds on Win32 though. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.ini location

2001-04-30 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
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Re: [PHP-DEV] using @php.net address.

2001-05-02 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
and read the list)? The mail is forwarded to the address listed in the cvsusers file (http://cvs.php.net/viewcvs.cgi/CVSROOT/cvsuser). Drop a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want it changed. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway

Re: [PHP-DEV] Release process

2001-05-03 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
activity on the main trunk, IMHO it would be better to do two RCs). We'll always have the problem of I need to MFH this, pretty please, but I think that started working well at the end of the 4.0.5 QA. :-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway

Re: [PHP-DEV] Release process

2001-05-03 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 05:52 AM 5/3/2001 -0400, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: We'll always have the problem of I need to MFH this, pretty please, but I think that started working well at the end of the 4.0.5 QA. :-) I actually also think that on a whole 4.0.5's release process

Re: [PHP-DEV] Release process

2001-05-03 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Oyvind Moll [EMAIL PROTECTED]] * Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | sunday's morning paper in Trondheim That won't be much of a name. (...or has Adresseavisa started printing a Sunday edition?) That was of course supposed to be saturday. :-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL related

2001-05-03 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
the RedHat-installed MySQL. Run as root: echo 'ln -s /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock /tmp/mysql.sock' /etc/rc.d/rc.local eval `tail -1 /etc/rc.d/rc.local` - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http

Re: [PHP-DEV] Classes function names

2001-05-04 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
sensitivity, while allowing case insensitivity as a non-default option. Ouch. What about making case sensitivity an option that is disabled by default in 4.1, and changing the default for 4.2. IMHO changing this default alone is enough to warrant the 4.1 - 4.2 transition. - Stig -- Stig Sæther

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
-source, IMHO Zend Ltd. have a bigger obligation to the PHP community to document all of the API than if Zend carried, say, a BSD license (because then it'd be more natural for the community to chip in). - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe? - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] connection_timeout() and PHP 3

2001-05-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
still use PHP 3. IMHO we should offer it for download, but be less active in supporting it. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP-DEV] extension/module versioning

2001-05-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
of classes, functions, documented globals, which parameters are accepted by functions/methods and their semantics/behaviour. -- snip -- IMHO it's a simple scheme that should be easy to understand for extension developers and users. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search

Re: [PHP-DEV] default location of php.ini changed?

2001-05-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
the new defaults). Sorry for being a bit slow, I'm spending most of my spare time transforming the jungle outside my house to something more lawn-ish these days. :-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing

Re: [PHP-DEV] documentation

2001-05-09 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
that are available ? There's an example on how to document a classes in phpdoc/en/pear/pear.xml. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP-DEV] Dynamic Update of DNS ??

2001-05-08 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
, see http://www/dns/bind/bind-sdb/. If you look at ^^^ I guess this will take most people to somewhere else than they expect. :-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http

Re: [PHP-DEV] stat/fstat

2001-05-11 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
the numeric indices) Why not have both numerical and descriptive indices? Backwards compatible, slightly bloatish, but not really a problem. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net

Re: AW: [PHP-DEV] arrays

2001-05-14 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
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Re: AW: AW: [PHP-DEV] arrays

2001-05-16 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
the array is fully associative on each operation. -Andrei -- Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO co-founder, Zend Technologies Ltd. http://www.zend.com/ -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http

Re: [PHP-DEV] Latest commit -- depreciation of call_user_method()

2001-05-16 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
should go out of our way to break people's scripts. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP-DEV] Latest commit -- depreciation of call_user_method()

2001-05-16 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
process between micro versions has become, it's just getting weirder. I think we should take a good look at the 4.1 TODO and split into a 4.1 and 4.2 TODO, and have 4.1 out sooner, maybe even as the next release after 4.0.6. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search

Re: AW: AW: [PHP-DEV] arrays

2001-05-16 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 13:34 16/5/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: Acknowledged. But IMO the arrays will be either clearly continous or clearly associative/non-continous in 99.2% of the cases (Zeev statistics applied). I never claim to be accurate, I usually say 99% :) I

Re: [PHP-DEV] removing ereg functions

2001-05-16 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
ourselves into. :-P - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators

Re: [PHP-DEV] removing ereg functions

2001-05-16 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
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[PHP-DEV] bug or feature?

2001-05-18 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
the number of lines! Anyway, I'd like to see $this assignment in constructor: 1. dismissed as a bug 2. documented as a feature, or 3. subject to discussion resulting in (1) or (2) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Latest commit -- depreciation of call_user_method()

2001-05-18 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
up for 4.1 now. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e

Re: [PHP-DEV] bug or feature?

2001-05-18 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
Technologies Ltd. http://www.zend.com/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast

Re: [PHP-DEV] CGI output performance

2001-05-19 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
is to add a check whether write() works on the system before using it. Are there any objections to such a change? Since the change is local to the CGI SAPI, I see no problems with it. Using fwrite in conjunction with mmap is just wasteful anyway. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug in building standalone DSO modules

2001-05-19 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
for everyone to build his favorite extension #ifdef HAVE_CONFIG_H #include config.h #endif phpize will add HAVE_CONFIG_H as of 4.0.6. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug in building standalone DSO modules

2001-05-20 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Alexander Bokovoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 01:34:49AM -0400, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: [Petr Cech [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi, I've been strugling for some time with the possibility of building some extension not inside of ext/ dir, but using phpize to just add some

Re: [PHP-DEV] language specification project

2001-05-21 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
with the questions implementors sometimes forget. On the other hand, Zeev and Andi may not want to prioritize their time on this, since a real language specification would clear the path for alternate parser implementations. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fork() in php?

2001-05-21 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
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Re: [PHP-DEV] copyright question for ext_skel generated source

2001-05-21 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
, to create these basefiles with the application wizard of kdevelop? IMHO it's ok to use the skeleton files and change the license, even to a commercial closed-source one. I don't know about others' HO though. :-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fork() in php?

2001-05-21 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
to come out of this can, so put the can in a bucket first. :-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fork() in php?

2001-05-21 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]] There are no plans for adding MT to PHP itself, but you do have a poor man's cooperative multi-threading through ticks. Are these documented anywhere? Uhm, it seems not. Me fix. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-CVS] cvs: pear /Net_Ping Ping.php package.xml

2001-05-22 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
. +1 No. We have a naming/filesystem scheme and we have a versioning scheme. Version information should not be reflected by the filesystem. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /sapi/cgi cgi_main.c

2001-05-24 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / configure.in

2001-08-03 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
it down. We should rather see what problems caching presents us with and try to resolve them. Absolutely. There's a reason for config.cache's existence. :-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http

Re: [PHP-DEV] include_path with .

2001-08-03 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Stig S. Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi, I would like to suggest that we change how . in the include_path is treated to being relative to the file doing an include, instead of relative to the main script file. There was some mention of this a few weeks ago, and it's a problem for PEAR users

Re: [PHP-DEV] Portability concerns

2001-08-04 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
not then think of any other functions for which this kind of behaviour would work :) With such a php_portability() function, it would be _even_ harder to write portable library code (because you need to handle both settings). Two wrongs won't make this one right. :-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken

Re: [PHP-DEV] Tests: naming

2001-08-04 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
03trim.phpt would be a good compromise? - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact

Re: [PHP-DEV] Portability concerns

2001-08-04 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Phil Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Saturday 04 August 2001 08:49, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: [Phil Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]] With such a php_portability() function, it would be _even_ harder to write portable library code (because you need to handle both settings). Two wrongs won't

Re: [PHP-DEV] Tests: naming

2001-08-04 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
? - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] .cvsignore in Zend/TSRM

2001-08-04 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Sebastian Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Could someone with cvs.zend.com Karma please add these lines to both TSRM's and Zend's .cvsignore ...done - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: mt_* functions

2001-08-04 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
system has a real good / very special one) For backwards compatibility, mt_* can be aliased to their normal equivalents. Please don't. Ini settings that change semantics are a bother, and people should be able to choose their random function. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard basic_functions.c incomplete_class.c php_incomplete_class.h var.c /ext/wddx wddx.c

2001-08-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
suggesting we take away the possibility of loading extensions at run-time? - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard basic_functions.c incomplete_class.c php_incomplete_class.h var.c /ext/wddx wddx.c

2001-08-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
sort of is one of PEAR's foundations. Let's try to fix these problems rather than cripping PHP. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard basic_functions.c incomplete_class.c php_incomplete_class.h var.c /ext/wddx wddx.c

2001-08-07 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
initialization? - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard basic_functions.c incomplete_class.c php_incomplete_class.h var.c /ext/wddx wddx.c

2001-08-08 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 17:55 07-08-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: Now we're talking! I assume it is not straightforward, what are the technical challenges in doing JIT module initialization? It's not much of a challenge really. If we decide it should be done, it can be done

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / NEWS /ext/standard info.c /main main.c

2001-08-09 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
hear some feedback: - Keep it as $_FORM - $_USER - $_CLIENT - Be extra careful - $_UNTRUSTED - $_INPUT Of these I think $_INPUT bears the least confusion. To me, $_USER sounds like something session-related, $_CLIENT sounds like something to do with user-agent. - Stig -- Stig Sæther

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] DB : affectedRows() on an UPDATE query ?

2001-08-09 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
() patch and other patches soon when he gets some time. We'll add it to PEAR DB then, and return not capable if the function does not exist. Hopefully we'll have it by PHP 4.0.7. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP4.0.6, php_iconv bugs

2001-08-10 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
. Shift_JIS actually does not define the tilde character, so iconv bailed out and returned an empty string (the solution is using codepage 932 instead when people ask for Shift_JIS. Bleh.) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] use indent instead of fixing whitespace by hand?

2001-08-13 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
% sure we'll get indent to do what we want, but we should find out and see if it can be done. I have started making an indent config file for PEAR, but that is indenting PHP code, so it's kinda different. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim

Re: [PHP-DEV] use indent instead of fixing whitespace by hand?

2001-08-14 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Markus Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 09:05:36AM +0200, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote : [Thies C. Arntzen [EMAIL PROTECTED]] guys, it's really time to setup our own indent(1L) profile and simply run everything in php4/ thru it. i'll spend some time

Re: [PHP-DEV] Extra parameters for strtoupper(), strtolower()

2001-08-14 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
to you, it will be useful to others. Go for it. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP-DEV] Setting up RFC

2001-08-15 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
still depend on Zeev, Andi or someone else @ Zend to implement them. An RFC system would be a support for Zend's decision-making. At the end of the day, due to the licensing issues, php-dev is not the body governing the language, it has an advisory role only. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken

Re: [PHP-DEV] fileperms(), fileinode(), filesize(), is_readable(), etc.

2001-08-15 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
, but I figured I'd bring it up :) Hey, let's not become C, I think they're just right. Usually when I stat a file, I only need one attribute. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net

Re: [PHP-DEV] Setting up RFC

2001-08-15 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Sterling Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 10:23 15-08-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: [Hi, I think one of the problems with this is that even if php-dev comes up with a system for determining which feature it wants to see in PHP, we still depend

Re: [PHP-DEV] Linux Today Article

2001-08-16 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
as powerful enablers for PHP going in this direction. - Stoig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP-DEV] Linux Today Article

2001-08-17 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
you can get within each of these. It is also something that the customer does not host himself. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP-DEV] Karma request

2001-08-17 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Marc Boeren [EMAIL PROTECTED]] I would like to add myself as maintainer of dbx to the EXTENSIONS file, but my karma is not sufficient to do this myself... So if somebody could do this for me, or upgrade my karma, that would be nice :) Fixed. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] API Thoughts?

2001-08-27 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
written in C too. :-) The way you have your files organized above, the classes should be named ADT_Queue and so on. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: [PHP-DEV] MFH'ing PEAR changes

2001-08-28 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
, please. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail

Re: [PHP-DEV] String search

2001-08-29 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
it? This is a question for php-general, not php-dev. But anyway, take a look at the strspn and strcspn functions. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Returning a string from an executed script?

2001-08-29 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
a way to currently do such a return and get at the returned value after the call to zend_execute_scripts(). Any suggestions? Print a header and catch it from the Apache module, or use apache_note()? - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [phpweb] [NON-critical] Change-notes warning:

2001-08-29 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
worked that way so long (and not bad at all). We can't encourage people to use E_ALL and at the same time have silly errors like this one. :-) - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard basic_functions.c incomplete_class.c php_incomplete_class.h var.c /ext/wddx wddx.c

2001-08-30 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
for all potentially clashing symbols in the ext/odbc source. It's not there anymore though, and that's mostly my fault. I guess we could go back to that model. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http

Re: [PHP-DEV] python dictionary-like % (percent) substitution in php (was: Good idea in % (percent) substitutions in string)

2001-08-31 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Freshmeat.net needs to know who is responsible.

2001-09-02 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
to remove PHP from the freshmeat.net archive (and I am sure no-one wants that : ) Hi, Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for administrative stuff, or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for technical stuff. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Reverting Rand Changes

2001-09-04 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
lately gives him the right to fix his changes before you or anyone else reverts them (they're here now, give him a chance). Finally, if the changes _are_ going to be reverted, give Jeroen some respect and let him do it. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA

Re: [PHP-DEV] Better shell scripting

2001-09-07 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
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