Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-02-09 Thread Marcus Gnaß
Nathan Rixham wrote: Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes Has anything been setup for project COD-pieces yet? I like this name! ;) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-02-09 Thread Nathan Rixham
Marcus Gnaß wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes Has anything been setup for project COD-pieces yet? I like this name! ;) Hi Markus, Actually, yes it has - the project, well working group, has been called voom. So far there are 8 developers including

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-02-09 Thread Marcus Gnaß
Nathan Rixham wrote: Marcus Gnaß wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes Has anything been setup for project COD-pieces yet? I like this name! ;) Actually, yes it has - the project, well working group, has been called voom. Sounds fine too! ;) If you're

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-02-09 Thread Kyle Terry
Assunto: Re: [PHP] maybe we could all? Nathan Rixham wrote: Marcus Gnaß wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes Has anything been setup for project COD-pieces yet? I like this name! ;) Actually, yes it has - the project, well working group, has been called voom

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 01:35 +, Nathan Rixham wrote: and on the other side.. to open things up interface Object { } or abstract class Object { } or class Object { } These braces are all wrong. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 19:59 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: I demand Dan and Nathan to go to bed now. Together? ;) Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Jason Pruim
On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote: Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes method: for everybody who wishes to contribute, and for everybody to review, discuss and work on the same classes. what are they: classes we can all use, that have been discussed, reviewed and

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Richard Heyes
... Um, PEAR? -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated January 17th) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 01:35 +, Nathan Rixham wrote: and on the other side.. to open things up interface Object { } or abstract class Object { } or class Object { } These braces are all wrong. [/snip] Uh...no they're not. (And you knew I was going to say that :) )

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Kyle Terry
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.netwrote: Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Jason Pruim
On Jan 20, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Kyle Terry wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.netwrote: Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Kyle Terry

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Kyle Terry
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Jason Pruim japr...@raoset.com wrote: On Jan 20, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Kyle Terry wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 19:58, Edmund

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-20 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 22:59, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: I demand Dan and Nathan to go to bed now. I consider Nathan a friend and talented programmer, but nothing could make me interested in that way, Kyle. -- /Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Edmund Hertle
2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes method: for everybody who wishes to contribute, and for everybody to review, discuss and work on the same classes. what are they: classes we can all use, that have been discussed, reviewed and agreed

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: 2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes method: for everybody who wishes to contribute, and for everybody to review, discuss and work on the same classes.

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: 2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes method: for everybody who wishes to contribute, and for everybody to review, discuss and work on the

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Edmund Hertle
2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com sounds good; (discussion begins) - but if we're all going to use them in production maybe we'd need to use say php 5.1.6 or the most common accross all os's and servers..? how many servers will have php 5.3 support from the off (think redhat servers!)

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Edmund Hertle wrote: 2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com sounds good; (discussion begins) - but if we're all going to use them in production maybe we'd need to use say php 5.1.6 or the most common accross all os's and servers..? how many servers will have php 5.3 support from the off

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Edmund Hertle
2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com sounds like a starting point. and the starting point imho, interfaces and abstracts, then implementations. [can't wait for a discussion on the implementation of Email lmfao] can i gather that this is a postive response and a few interested parties?

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: 2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com sounds like a starting point. and the starting point imho, interfaces and abstracts, then implementations. [can't wait for a discussion on the implementation of

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Butera
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: 2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com sounds like a starting point. and the starting point imho, interfaces and abstracts, then

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: 2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com sounds like a starting point. and the starting point imho,

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: 2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: 2009/1/20 Nathan Rixham

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Butera
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM,

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: and on the other side.. to open things up interface Object { } or abstract class Object { } or class Object { } nothing

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle Terry wrote: and on the other side.. to open things up interface Object { } or abstract class Object { } or class Object { } nothing else for now: reason: to address the current and forseable

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Butera
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle Terry wrote: and on the other side.. to open things up interface Object { } or abstract class Object { } or

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 19:58, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: Well, I think we should not go to fast... maybe we are setting up SVN, webspace, domain, mailing-list and in the end this is only used by 4-5 people. Because than this can be discussed on this mailinglist. But if

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 19:58, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: Well, I think we should not go to fast... maybe we are setting up SVN, webspace, domain, mailing-list and in the end this is only used by

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 20:12, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: lol and sourceforge [doh]; that way if anything takes off natural user base and integrated promotion most active - possibly with aid of tony :D There's also Google Code, or - if you guys want to be less-restricted - you

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 20:12, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: lol and sourceforge [doh]; that way if anything takes off natural user base and integrated promotion most active - possibly with aid of tony :D

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Butera
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 19:58, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: Well, I think we should not go to fast... maybe we are setting up

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 19:58, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: Well, I think we should not go to fast... maybe we

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Daniel Brown wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 19:58, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: Well, I think we should not go to fast... maybe we are setting up SVN, webspace, domain, mailing-list and in the end this is only used by 4-5 people. Because than this can be discussed on

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Bastien Koert
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 19:58, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: Well, I think we should not go to fast... maybe we are setting up SVN, webspace, domain, mailing-list and in the

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Butera wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 19:58, Edmund Hertle

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Bastien Koert wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 19:58, Edmund Hertle edmund.her...@student.kit.edu wrote: Well, I think we should not go to fast... maybe we are setting up SVN, webspace, domain,

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: discuss [ wiki needed? ] wiki will definitely be needed. dan? :-) + a name, cos if we need to start prefixing.. and it can't be 4LC as can't start with a number :p The world's object? Pobject

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 21:31, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: dan - great offer, I'd like to take you up on it [could we install any extra needed software, such as a wiki / list or something that allows discussion and document storage made website available] svn - a must imho

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Butera
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in, sounds like fun and a great way to learn new stuff This is what I was thinking too. I'm just not sure what sort of contributions I could make to such a thing. It'd be an interesting experience to try though. --

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 21:31, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: dan - great offer, I'd like to take you up on it [could we install any extra needed software, such as a wiki / list or something that allows

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Daniel Brown wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 21:31, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: dan - great offer, I'd like to take you up on it [could we install any extra needed software, such as a wiki / list or something that allows discussion and document storage made website available] svn -

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in, sounds like fun and a great way to learn new stuff This is what I was thinking too. I'm just not sure what sort of contributions I could

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:57:25PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes method: for everybody who wishes to contribute, and for everybody to review, discuss and work on the same classes. what are they: classes we can all use, that have been discussed,

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:57:25PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: Project: PHP Common Objects and Datatypes method: for everybody who wishes to contribute, and for everybody to review, discuss and work on the same classes. what are they: classes we can all use, that have

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:29:29AM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:57:25PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: snip You really don't have enough to do, do you? Paul actually, way too much - but I like to learn, contribute, think about what I'm

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Butera
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:29:29AM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:57:25PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: snip You really don't have enough to do, do you? Paul

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 22:46, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Incidentally, I'm relatively new to the list, but I see a lot of CCs along with posts to the list. The CCs are only useful if non-subscribers can post to the list. Is that the case? Yes, sir. It's also part of

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.comwrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:29:29AM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:57:25PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: snip You really don't have enough to do, do you? Paul

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Paul M Foster wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:29:29AM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:57:25PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: snip You really don't have enough to do, do you? Paul actually, way too much - but I like to learn, contribute, think

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Terry
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Paul M Foster wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:29:29AM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:57:25PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: snip You really don't have enough to do, do

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Kyle Terry wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in, sounds like fun and a great way to learn new stuff This is what I was thinking too. I'm just not sure what sort of

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Nathan Rixham
Kyle Terry wrote: I demand Dan and Nathan to go to bed now. yeah it's 4am; day job in 5 hours - kinda waiting on the mrs tonight; she just released another mix onto the net and the process is long and slow while she gets everything just so - damn good though - but always seems to do it at

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:57:34AM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: snip welcome; good to see a new face - even if it is preformatted courier as per :p That preformatted courier sounds like your email client. I use mutt an vim for mail. Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List

Re: [PHP] maybe we could all?

2009-01-19 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:49:34PM -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 22:46, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Incidentally, I'm relatively new to the list, but I see a lot of CCs along with posts to the list. The CCs are only useful if non-subscribers can post