Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-22 Thread andreas
Once more, congratulation! This is awesome! I really believe this is/will be huge. 1. kickstarter Afaik you need a US tax number to use kickstarter, so either a us citizen oder better a us company is necessary. It's possible to do a setup by creating a cheap delaware company, I know guys who did

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-22 Thread George Orais
Hi Sandeep and Andreas! Thanks for your support :) Andreas, thanks for your great inputs! It's indeed what we are looking forward. With everyone showing support and interest really is a motivation booster and now i'm preparing myself to next stage which is synthesizing the Verilog code to be

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-22 Thread Heow Goodman
If we're talking small potatoes, I'm sure there are a number of US entities (ALU, LispNYC) that would happily front their EIN for a cool kickstarter. On 2014-9-22, 5:26 AM, andr...@itship.ch wrote: Once more, congratulation! This is awesome! I really believe this is/will be huge. 1.

RE: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-22 Thread Loyall, David
From: Alexander Burger [...] And I can assure you that PicoLisp will never be a closed system. My personal opintion has always been that developments should be shared, and that the term intellectual property per se is unethical. Well said. If/when other implementations try to compete with

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-21 Thread Doug Snead
Oh boy! I've been thinking of something like this for a while. What is the low-hanging fruit here, in the sense of, what applications might we do faster/cheaper/better in hardware like this, than can be done otherwise? The idea of pilog in hardware excites me too ... maybe time to go back

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-20 Thread Raman Gopalan
Dear Alex, we are proud to announce PilMCU, the Lisp Machine on a Chip! :) Fantastic! This is truly amazing. Congratulations! R On 19 September 2014 17:09, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hello List, we are proud to announce PilMCU, the Lisp Machine on a Chip! :) We, that

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-20 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Loyall, On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:53:00PM +, Loyall, David wrote: From: Thorsten Jolitz It's a Lisp machine. It probably shouldn't be born crippled (with closed design). :) I'm sure its technical design is not crippled at all. I am new to your mailing list and as such I'd

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-20 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On September 19, 2014 at 7:32 PM Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Loyall, David david.loy...@nebraska.gov writes: The Internet would like to run this locally. Would you post the verilog source and build files? Or a link to a repository? I think this has the potential to make a

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-20 Thread Sandeep Puri
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Jakob Eriksson ja...@aurorasystems.eu wrote: On September 19, 2014 at 7:32 PM Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Loyall, David david.loy...@nebraska.gov writes: The Internet would like to run this locally. Would you post the verilog source

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Fantastic, this is truly great. I have been hoping for years someone would pull this off. Congratulations. best regards, Jakob On September 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hello List, we are proud to announce PilMCU, the Lisp Machine on a Chip! :) We,

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Alabhya Singh
Congratulations to both of you on this important feat! Funds should flow in when picoLisp OS is seen running with all virtues, on existing hardware. Looking for introductory level material on this to present to educational institutions, for them to realize value of this project.

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Alabhya, Congratulations to both of you on this important feat! Thanks! Funds should flow in when picoLisp OS is seen running with all virtues, on existing hardware. Hmm, but this is a bit against the point, isn't it? This *is* a hardware project. On existing hardware you may be served

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Joe Bogner
Hi Alex - congratulations... It's really inspiring to see picoLisp keep improving and branching out. It really has staying power This might be off base, but is it within the realm of possibility to run PilMCU on a raspberry pi now or in the future? That's an accessible piece of hardware that many

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de writes: Hi Alex (and George), we are proud to announce PilMCU, the Lisp Machine on a Chip! :) though not really a hardware/low-level guy, I think this sounds pretty exiting! How shall we proceed? We need investors (or crowdfunding) to polish,

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Rick Lyman
How about an indiegogo or kickstarter project for a FPGA board that would plug into this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-development-kit/ or this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13097 or this:

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Mattias Sundblad
Great news and good work! Congratulations! I second what Joe wrote a bit earlier, it truly is inspiring to see PicoLisp improve. best regards, Mattias On 19 September 2014 15:24, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de writes: Hi Alex (and George),

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Alabhya Singh
Both Jakob and Alex are right! 1. PicoLisp has to infiltrate existing real metal hardware to demonstrate/appeal to less techy, in general people with VC. 2. Comparative benchmarks on same underlying hardware will be helpful to showcase.

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Alexander Burger
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 03:25:09PM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Funds should flow in when picoLisp OS is seen running with all virtues, on existing hardware. Hmm, but this is a bit against the point, isn't it? This *is* a hardware project. On existing hardware you may be served better

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread George Orais
Hi Alex! First of all, thanks for the wonderful tool PicoLisp and also for giving me this opportunity to work with you on this exciting project :) Please let me share some of the exciting feature that we can provide especially on the embedded perspective. Hi Everyone! I am Geo and i'm

RE: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Loyall, David
From: picolisp@software-lab.de [mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de] On Behalf Of George Orais [...] pilMCU is running under Icarus Verilog Simulator [...] Nice. The Internet would like to run this locally. Would you post the verilog source and build files? Or a link to a repository?

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Loyall, David david.loy...@nebraska.gov writes: The Internet would like to run this locally. Would you post the verilog source and build files? Or a link to a repository? I think this has the potential to make a very nice and successfull kickstarter project, so why not try to build a

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Christophe Gragnic
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Loyall, David david.loy...@nebraska.gov wrote: The Internet would like to run this locally. Yes ! Would you post the verilog source and build files? Or a link to a repository? Now PicoLisp should not be jealous of BF anymore: https://github.com/briandef/bf16

RE: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Loyall, David
From: Thorsten Jolitz Loyall, David writes: The Internet would like to run this locally. Would you post the verilog source and build files? Or a link to a repository? I think this has the potential to make a very nice and successfull kickstarter project, so why not try to build a

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread rand
This has made it to #4 on Hacker News (https://news.ycombinator.com). That’s pretty impressive, Alex! — Rand-- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Thorsten, I suggest to proceed in 2 steps: 1. make me a team member 2. repeat the {Microsoft|Apple}-Story ;-) Great! That's the way to go! ;-) I think I have VC-Companies and Robotics-Research-Faculties in my neighborhood, so once you have a business-idea based on PilMCU's USPs, I

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Loyall, David david.loy...@nebraska.gov writes: From: Thorsten Jolitz Loyall, David writes: The Internet would like to run this locally. Would you post the verilog source and build files? Or a link to a repository? I think this has the potential to make a very nice and successfull

RE: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Loyall, David
From: Thorsten Jolitz It's a Lisp machine. It probably shouldn't be born crippled (with closed design). :) I'm sure its technical design is not crippled at all. I am new to your mailing list and as such I'd like to listen more than I speak. But please don't speak for me. :) It should

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Christophe Gragnic christophegrag...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Loyall, David david.loy...@nebraska.gov wrote: If you sell a FPGA configured to be an open source Lisp CPU, I'll buy a few Someone on Hacker News: «where's the kickstarter page? I want a few of those.»

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread George Orais
Good morning everyone! Wow! thanks for all this nice feedback's, a nice way to greet a morning weekend :) Btw sorry if i cannot individually reply on each topic, but let me share my thoughts on this two topic that is recently on the table: 1. Kickstarter or Indigogo 2. Verilog source code

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-19 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Rick, On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:14:20AM -0400, Rick Lyman wrote: How about an indiegogo or kickstarter project for a FPGA board that would plug into this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-development-kit/ or this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13097 or