Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CB - Works by Composer problem in 7.6
erland;646161 Wrote: I think it now should be fixed in the Custom Browse 2.11.3389 version which I just released. I've already released a new Custom Scan version which had a similar issue in the Tags and Dynamic Tags based menus, not sure if that affects you. All seems fine now. I think I would have tripped over the Tags problem as well at some point. Thanks very much indeed. You are a star. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89159 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] DefaultCB request
PasTim;645011 Wrote: I am sure there's a lot to do around your plugins with 7.6. Nonetheless could I ask whether it would be difficult to add the additional buttons (some skins optionally can display additional buttons for playable items, like eg. Play next or Remove from playlist) to the DefaultCB playlist? With the loss of fishbone (which had its own problems on 7.5.n but was quite fun) I'm torn between the ease of use of ClassicCB, which doesn't have the time remaining and a few other features, or DefaultCB which doesn't currently have the Additional Playlist buttons present on the Default skin. I really do miss the ability to select an item on the DefaultCB Now Playing list and play or clear it. Those additional buttons in the Default menus are really handy. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89179 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Touch 'Play All' on CB doesn't work
If I try to Play All on a Custom Browse menu using the Touch screen, it works on the remote control (using the play button), but it does not work on the Touch screen. I can select and play individual tracks using the screen, but not Play All. (On Play All there is also no '' at the far right but I think that has been true for some time.) The web interface works as normal. This is a relatively new issue, although since I normally use the remote or web interface it may have been around for a few weeks. I am on the latest of everything - Touch firmware 7.6.1 9471, SB 7.6.1 33033, Custom Browse 2.11.3411. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89514 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Thanks for supporting third party developers!
Most of the plugins I use are Erland's, and I use them all the time. I really do appreciate the work people like him put in, especially with the apparently unannounced release of the flaky 7.6.0. I have time on my hands, so I can play around with stuff, and don't get too excited when things don't work first time. I also use the forum, and found Erland's vital commentary on issues with 7.6.0 in time to make use of the information. However, I am very concerned that most 'normal' users (i.e. people who expect stuff to work when they plug it in) will have been put off by 7.6 (whether they use 3rd party plugins or not) and will quickly move to other more stable and reliable kit. The Logitech Squeezebox could be on a slippery downward slope if they are not careful, which would be a great shame. I'll help with beta testing if asked (PM if needed), provided it doesn't mean rescanning my library too often (my custom scan is around 2 hours at present and I don't want to do that too often, being someone who turns their PC off at night). My set-up is a 64 bit Windows 7 PC with wired Touch, all on latest 7.6.1 as of this morning. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89528 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Thanks for supporting third party developers!
And soundcheck of course, for the Touch Toolbox. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89528 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
PasTim;644799 Wrote: I seem to recall a while back you saying that Custom Scan refreshes had to go back SB 7.5.n frequently to allow people to play tracks whilst scanning. My experience thus far is that it is quite impossible to play anything whilst scanning (base or custom) using SB 7.6. I get no sound, then rebuffering, restarting, and so on. It is very noticeable using 7.6 that the the squeezebox service is now running at a constant steady pace (about 9-10% CPU on my PC) whilst custom scanning. It used to scan in short bursts of a few seconds. If feasible (optionally?), I'd much rather all scans ran as fast as possible and I'll forgo listening to SB whilst it is scanning. SB sometimes decides to rescan without me telling it to, usually when I have added a track and played it via Music Folder. I wish it wouldn't, but the issue I have here is that I then get a custom scan which takes 2 hours. During this time I cannot play anything. This is very different from 7.5.n, when I could play tracks whilst custom scanning. I had been hoping for faster Custom Scans in 7.6. What we seem to have now is Custom Scans that are not much quicker than before when playing music in parallel, but which now don't let you play music at the same time. For now I will have to set custom scans to entirely manual and trigger them only when I want to. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Auto rescan
When I add a file to my library and use Music Folder to find it and play it, or maybe go back and select another one, SB usually decides to rescan my library. This means I can't try out my new track for however long SB decides to scan for since it will not respond. This is driving me crackers. I want to be in control - not be unable to listen to my stuff for 10-15 minutes. I may decide I don't like the track and ditch it. I have been trying out various techniques for recording LPs, and this SB behaviour is making it a real pain. Logitech please provide an option to only ever scan on manual request. I'm currently on SB 7.6.1 33048 (i.e. the newset) due to scanning problems with earlier releases. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89553 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
I am now on 7.6.1 - r33048, and ran a full scan (11 minutes - getting quicker) and then (manually) a custom scan. The custom scan is now much quicker - around 1 hour for my 14,500 tracks (with 4 new tags). I can live quite happily with not playing anything for this time, provided I can control when it happens, which I can. There don't seem to be any log entries for the Custom Scan, which surprised me (and I did stop/restart SB to make sure), but I can live without assuming that if something fails it will be logged. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
MillmoorRon;649271 Wrote: I think the default only logs errors. If you set plugin.customscan to 'info' under the advancedlogging setting you'll get the start and stop times and some other relevant stuff. OK - Thanks. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
erland;649312 Wrote: The only solution to this is that I add support for new/changed rescans also in Custom Scan, this would be possible in 7.6 and it is something I eventually like to do, the problem is just to get the time and inspiration to do it since I never use Music Folder browsing myself and due to this doesn't have the issues you have in my own setup. It's also a pretty big change of the Custom Scan code so it will take a lot of time to implement and test it. So it might be solved sometime in the future but it's unlikely to be solved in the near future. I do wonder why the latest version doesn't allow one to play tracks while custom scanning, but that's only relatively idle interest now since my custom scans are recently down to an 1 hour. I'm content that I can control when Custom Scans take place (unlike SB scans). People who have custom scans lasting many hours might feel differently. I'm quite sure you have more useful things to do with your spare time than tinker with this. I'm most grateful that you have done as much as you have. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
erland;649399 Wrote: I suspect the background scheduling is more aggressive in 7.6 compared to 7.5 making it prioritize Custom Scan background scanning before handling the music. This is great as long as you don't play music but as you say it causes problem if you like to simultaneously play music. Do I understand correctly that the issue is that you can play music but gets very choppy and isn't possible to listen to ? If so, I'll have to test it in my own environment and see if it would be possible to somehow lower the priority of the background scanning if music is playing. The result will probably be that the scanning when playing music will take more time time but the advantage is that you can enjoy music while it's playing and this is probably preferred by most users. When I try to play music during a custom scan it is difficult to get the server to respond to my request, and then the Toucb starts buffering and rebuffering, stops, stutters and so on. Since my custom scan is now quite quick, and I can run it only when I want, I don't mind this. However, others, as you say, may find this a problem. I don't know if the priorities in the performance settings affect this. What priority does the custom scan take? Scanner or server? I have the server on High (-16) and the scanner on -12. I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse menus slow to show list
Since 7.6.0 I have found that, quite often, my CB menus can take one or two minutes to load (web GUI or Touch). This is long enough that the Touch complains and asks to reconnect. I'm using Erland's Classical menus, such as Works by Composer. It is as if the system is slowly loading the whole lot into memory before showing any items. Having done this it's OK for a while, but then something happens that makes it slow again. I limit my lists to 100 items, and am using the High Memory performance setting. I haven't managed to do a detailed set of tests yet. There are several things I could look at if it would be useful (eg looking at CPU disc loads when I do this). I am on Windows 7 64 bit, SB 7.6.1 - 33048. -- PasTim PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89579 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
I have turned off all automatic Custom Scans, and now run them manually when I need to. I had to do this because I quite often add tracks and play them straight away (via Music Folders) to make sure they are OK. SBS does a short scan which runs OK, but then if Custom Scan is configured to kick in after an SBS scan it stops SBS from responding or being able to play music. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse menus slow to show list
This morning, having booted up afresh, even Squeezeplay couldn't connect to the server on the same PC for a full 2 minutes when I tried using a Custom Browse menu. Currently on SBS 7.6.1 - r33048. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89579 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse menus slow to show list
erland;650080 Wrote: Are you using the High setting of Database Memory Config in SBS Settings/Advanced/Performance ? Could you post the exact *.cb.values.xml files which represent the menus where the problem occurs ? Yes, as I said above, I am using that setting. I did a couple more tests. After installing the latest nightly (to see if anything had changed which might help) and runniong a full custom scan, web and Touch UI performance was fine. Stopping and re-starting the server after half an hour or so - still fine. Reboot the PC, performance was down to nearly 2 minutes again. Once I had done that to a couple of the CB menus the performance was fine again. Having returned to my PC, without stopping/starting the server, and trying again in response to your post, the standard SBS 'Albums' menu was fine. CB Works by Composer took over a minute the first time then was fine. It seems there's some sort of caching and cache clean-up going on somewhere. I never saw this on any 7.5.n I ran. On windows 7 I can see some of the file activity in some detail if that would be helpful (using 'resource monitor' from the 'task manager'. The CPU and disc are both pretty busy for the period of the delay. A typical menu is as below. It is one of yours with the addition of an extra 'WorkArtist' tag. Other menus behave similarly. I haven't changed them since 7.5.n. ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? custombrowse template idcustomscan_mixedtags.xml/id parameter type=text id=menunamevalueWorks by Composer/value/parameter parameter type=text id=menugroupvalueClassical Music/value/parameter parameter type=text id=menuordervalue50/value/parameter parameter type=text id=limituppertagsvalue1/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag1valueCOMPOSER/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype1value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag1/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag1artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag1numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag2valueWORK/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype2value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=level2namevalueWorks/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag2/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag2artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag2numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag3valueWORKARTIST/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype3value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=level3namevalueWork Artist/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag3/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag3artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag3numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag4/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype4value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=level4name/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag4/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag4artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag4numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag5/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype5value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=level5name/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag5/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag5artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag5numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtracktag/parameter parameter type=text id=playalltracksvalue1/value/parameter parameter type=text id=libraryvalue2/value/parameter parameter type=text id=activelibraryvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=includedclients/parameter parameter type=text id=excludedclients/parameter parameter type=text id=includedlibraries/parameter parameter type=text id=excludedlibraries/parameter /template /custombrowse -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89579
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
erland;650439 Wrote: Just to better understand the real problem here, could you look in the server.log file and see how long time it is between the log message saying: CustomScan: Synchronizing Custom Scan data, please wait... And the one saying: CustomScan: Synchronization finished I'm interested in the time it takes between these two log messages both at Squeezebox Server startup and also after a Custom Scan operation has started due to browsing by Music Folder. On my system I don't get a message at startup from Custom Scan. I assume that's because it is not configured to rescan at startup (there is no way I'm waiting an hour every morning before I can play music). For a manually initiated rescan something odd is now happening at times. When I click once on scan all it waits, and then sometimes says it is already running (message in red on the GUI - Scanning already in progress, wait until its finished). It still runs though. An example of a Music Folder initiated scan (messages only - the actual scans take around an hour): [11-08-12 12:10:04.0352] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (166) Discovering files in D:\Music\flac\Classical\C\Chopin\Scherzi\Ashkenazy [11-08-12 12:10:05.0036] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (246) Removing deleted files (0) [11-08-12 12:10:05.0040] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (321) Scanning new files (1) [11-08-12 12:10:06.0799] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (396) Rescanning changed files (0) [11-08-12 12:10:06.1067] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1882) CustomScan: Synchronizing Custom Scan data, please wait... [11-08-12 12:14:22.8033] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2219) CustomScan: Synchronization finished A Manual scan: [11-08-15 13:51:24.9851] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1882) CustomScan: Synchronizing Custom Scan data, please wait... [11-08-15 13:54:41.1781] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2219) CustomScan: Synchronization finished And a manual scan this morning: [11-08-17 07:26:16.3405] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1882) CustomScan: Synchronizing Custom Scan data, please wait... [11-08-17 07:27:36.2450] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (317) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor, retrying in 300 seconds [11-08-17 07:27:36.2565] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2219) CustomScan: Synchronization finished -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
erland;650471 Wrote: Does it do a rescan at startup ??? It's supposed to only do the synchronization/refresh operation and that seems to take about 4 minutes in your system according to these logs. I understand 4 minutes is still too much at startup but if it really does a 2 hour rescan at startup if you enable the Startup refresh option I like to know because then there might be more serious issues in SBS which Logitech needs to solve. I confess to being a little confused. I have always run with the 1st two Custom Scan 'refresh' options turned off. I had assumed these were for scanning. I had not appreciated that a refresh was something different. I have now turned them on. I stopped restarted SB - no Custom Scan message. I checked I had saved the options. I had. I rebooted the PC (which restarts SB as a service). Still no Custom Scan messages. I tried using one of the menus that I reported elsewhere as being slow first time. They were quick enough (10 seconds, not 60 or more). So maybe I now understand what a 'refresh' is - it reads the tags so that it can respond to requests quickly. Why there is no log message I don't know. Do you want me to turn on more logging? -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse menus slow to show list
I may have resolved this. By setting the 2 'refresh' options to Yes in the Custom Scan settings, I have a busy PC when it reboots/restarts, but the menus are much quicker the rest of the time. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89579 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
erland;650492 Wrote: They should be logged if the plugin.customscan logging point has been configured to log warning (or info or debug) in SBS Settings/Advanced/Logging. Is this the case ? Thanks for the information. I understand a bit better now. I have 'Warn' on the customscan log. There's no log at startup (see below - 3 starts), although it does appear to do something - startup is slower, and once I am into SB the CB menus are quicker the first time I use them. The previous logs I posted were produced with the same log settings (ie they are unchanged). [11-08-17 09:13:52.7485] main::init (349) Starting Squeezebox Server (v7.6.1, r33082, Mon Aug 15 02:06:39 PDT 2011) perl 5.01 [11-08-17 09:38:59.3518] main::init (349) Starting Squeezebox Server (v7.6.1, r33082, Mon Aug 15 02:06:39 PDT 2011) perl 5.01 [11-08-17 10:34:28.6105] main::init (349) Starting Squeezebox Server (v7.6.1, r33082, Mon Aug 15 02:06:39 PDT 2011) perl 5.01 -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
PasTim;650498 Wrote: I have 'Warn' on the customscan log. I tried setting it to 'Info'. I saved it, moved to another page, went back to the logging page and checked it was at Info. So far so good. I stopped and restarted SBS. No Custom Scan messages, and the logging level had been reset to warn. I tried this twice. Does SBS always reset these? If so, there is no way I can change it for a restart. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
MillmoorRon;650576 Wrote: In 'Advanced Log Settings' just above all the drop-down lists there is a check box entitled 'Save logging settings for use at next application restart '. I think this saves your setting permanently. Indeed it does - thanks. I Learn something every day. I have now found the following using the 'info' setting. It puzzles be a bit since it appears to spend a lot of time on musicbrains, which I don't use as far as I know (indeed I am only dimly aware of what it is). [11-08-17 20:14:41.0293] main::init (349) Starting Squeezebox Server (v7.6.1, r33082, Mon Aug 15 02:06:39 PDT 2011) perl 5.01 [11-08-17 20:14:46.5517] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::initDatabase (448) Creating indexes [11-08-17 20:14:46.5535] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::executeSQLFile (515) Executing SQL file C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\CustomScan\SQL\SQLite\dbindex.sql [11-08-17 20:14:46.5573] Plugins::CustomScan::Plugin::installHook (132) Installing Custom Scan hooks [11-08-17 20:15:31.9259] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1871) Refresh triggered by module: Rating Tag [11-08-17 20:15:31.9264] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1882) CustomScan: Synchronizing Custom Scan data, please wait... [11-08-17 20:15:31.9267] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1884) Starting to update musicbrainz id's in custom scan artist data based on names [11-08-17 20:15:31.9275] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1908) Finished updating musicbrainz id's in custom scan artist data based on names, updated 0 items : It took 0.000721 seconds [11-08-17 20:15:31.9279] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1914) Starting to update custom scan artist data based on musicbrainz ids [11-08-17 20:15:31.9287] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1937) Finished updating custom scan artist data based on musicbrainz ids, updated 0 items : It took 0.0007 seconds [11-08-17 20:15:31.9291] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1944) Starting to update custom scan artist data based on names [11-08-17 20:15:31.9297] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1967) Finished updating custom scan artist data based on names, updated 0 items : It took 0.000635 seconds [11-08-17 20:15:31.9301] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1974) Starting to update musicbrainz id's in custom scan album data based on titles [11-08-17 20:15:31.9309] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1998) Finished updating musicbrainz id's in custom scan album data based on titles, updated 0 items : It took 0.000667 seconds [11-08-17 20:15:31.9314] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2004) Starting to update custom scan album data based on musicbrainz ids [11-08-17 20:15:31.9322] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2027) Finished updating custom scan album data based on musicbrainz ids, updated 0 items : It took 0.000756 seconds [11-08-17 20:15:31.9326] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2033) Starting to update custom scan album data based on titles [11-08-17 20:15:31.9333] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2056) Finished updating custom scan album data based on titles, updated 0 items : It took 0.000636 seconds [11-08-17 20:15:31.9337] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2062) Starting to update musicbrainz id's in custom scan track data based on urls [11-08-17 20:19:39.8494] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2086) Finished updating musicbrainz id's in custom scan track data based on urls, updated 0 items : It took 247.915691 seconds [11-08-17 20:19:39.8498] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2092) Starting to update custom scan track data based on musicbrainz ids [11-08-17 20:19:42.5639] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2188) Finished updating custom scan track data based on musicbrainz ids, updated 0 items : It took 2.713974 seconds [11-08-17 20:19:42.5644] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2194) Starting to update custom scan track data based on urls [11-08-17 20:19:45.2003] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2217) Finished updating custom scan track data based on urls, updated 0 items : It took 2.635724 seconds [11-08-17 20:19:45.2007] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2219) CustomScan: Synchronization finished -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
Seeking to resolve some small part of my ignorance, I looked up a bit on Musicbrainz. I still don't really understand it. However, I tripped over MusicIP on the same site. Hmm, I thought. I have that plugin disabled (since I tend to disable stuff I don't use). I wonder if Log follows with MusicIP plugin enabled. This is very much quicker, with no change made to my library whatsoever from well before the restart before the restart for which I reported the previous log. [11-08-17 21:12:38.5152] main::init (349) Starting Squeezebox Server (v7.6.1, r33082, Mon Aug 15 02:06:39 PDT 2011) perl 5.01 [11-08-17 21:12:49.7733] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::initDatabase (448) Creating indexes [11-08-17 21:12:49.7749] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::executeSQLFile (515) Executing SQL file C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\CustomScan\SQL\SQLite\dbindex.sql [11-08-17 21:12:49.7783] Plugins::CustomScan::Plugin::installHook (132) Installing Custom Scan hooks [11-08-17 21:13:00.1283] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1871) Refresh triggered by module: Rating Tag [11-08-17 21:13:00.1287] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1882) CustomScan: Synchronizing Custom Scan data, please wait... [11-08-17 21:13:00.1291] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1884) Starting to update musicbrainz id's in custom scan artist data based on names [11-08-17 21:13:00.1299] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1908) Finished updating musicbrainz id's in custom scan artist data based on names, updated 0 items : It took 0.000715 seconds [11-08-17 21:13:00.1303] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1914) Starting to update custom scan artist data based on musicbrainz ids [11-08-17 21:13:00.1310] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1937) Finished updating custom scan artist data based on musicbrainz ids, updated 0 items : It took 0.000695 seconds [11-08-17 21:13:00.1314] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1944) Starting to update custom scan artist data based on names [11-08-17 21:13:00.1321] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1967) Finished updating custom scan artist data based on names, updated 0 items : It took 0.000623 seconds [11-08-17 21:13:00.1325] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1974) Starting to update musicbrainz id's in custom scan album data based on titles [11-08-17 21:13:00.1332] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (1998) Finished updating musicbrainz id's in custom scan album data based on titles, updated 0 items : It took 0.000659 seconds [11-08-17 21:13:00.1337] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2004) Starting to update custom scan album data based on musicbrainz ids [11-08-17 21:13:00.1348] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2027) Finished updating custom scan album data based on musicbrainz ids, updated 0 items : It took 0.001085 seconds [11-08-17 21:13:00.1353] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2033) Starting to update custom scan album data based on titles [11-08-17 21:13:00.1361] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2056) Finished updating custom scan album data based on titles, updated 0 items : It took 0.000685 seconds [11-08-17 21:13:00.1365] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2062) Starting to update musicbrainz id's in custom scan track data based on urls [11-08-17 21:13:03.3503] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2086) Finished updating musicbrainz id's in custom scan track data based on urls, updated 0 items : It took 3.213709 seconds [11-08-17 21:13:03.3508] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2092) Starting to update custom scan track data based on musicbrainz ids [11-08-17 21:13:06.0754] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2188) Finished updating custom scan track data based on musicbrainz ids, updated 0 items : It took 2.72443 seconds [11-08-17 21:13:06.0759] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2194) Starting to update custom scan track data based on urls [11-08-17 21:13:08.7279] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2217) Finished updating custom scan track data based on urls, updated 0 items : It took 2.652111 seconds [11-08-17 21:13:08.7283] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::refreshData (2219) CustomScan: Synchronization finished -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Scan and 7.6
Sorry - a red herring. I thought I should double check by disabling MusicIP again and restarting. Scan times were quick, as they were with that plugin enabled. So I still have no idea why the earlier log took 4 minutes to do nothing (Finished updating musicbrainz id's in custom scan track data based on urls, updated 0 items : It took 247.915691 seconds). I had a look in the database, and I have no musicbrainz ids on tracks or contributors. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89135 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] SyncOptions glitch
I was playing a track on my Touch, with no other players (software or hardware) connected, when the track stuttered and stopped. I tried again with similar results. Looking at the server log, I see about 80 of the log errors below. Looking back over the log this has happened a few times before, including on the official 7.6.0.release. I am currently running 7.6.1 r33082. My SyncOptions settings follow the log: Any idea what's wrong? [11-08-20 14:07:55.8361] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2079) Error: Failed notify: Not a HASH reference at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SyncOptions/Plugin.pm line 628. [11-08-20 14:07:55.8393] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2079) Error: Failed notify: Not a HASH reference at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SyncOptions/Plugin.pm line 628. [11-08-20 14:07:55.8440] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2079) Error: Failed notify: Not a HASH reference at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SyncOptions/Plugin.pm line 628. [11-08-20 14:07:56.0239] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2079) Error: Failed notify: Not a HASH reference at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SyncOptions/Plugin.pm line 628. [11-08-20 14:07:56.0281] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2079) Error: Failed notify: Not a HASH reference at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SyncOptions/Plugin.pm line 628. [11-08-20 14:07:56.0333] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2079) Error: Failed notify: Not a HASH reference at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SyncOptions/Plugin.pm line 628. [11-08-20 14:07:56.0364] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2079) Error: Failed notify: Not a HASH reference at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SyncOptions/Plugin.pm line 628. [11-08-20 14:07:56.0386] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2079) Error: Failed notify: Not a HASH reference at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SyncOptions/Plugin.pm line 628. [11-08-20 14:07:56.0429] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2079) Error: Failed notify: Not a HASH reference at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SyncOptions/Plugin.pm line 628. SyncOptions settings: UNSYNC AT POWER OFF - *Off* RELATIVE VOLUME SYNCHRONIZATION - *Off* WAIT THIS MANY SECONDS - *10* WAIT FOR NEXT TRACK - *Attempt mid-song sync* RESTORE PLAYLIST AFTER UNSYNCING - *On* ALLOW LATE JOINING TO RESTART SYNC GROUP - *5* PRECISION FOR DETECTING NEW TRACK - *O.5* -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89749 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
Erland, I am eager to try, but events (and PCs) conspire against me. My internal Hard Disk has given up the ghost after only 8 months, so I am on my USB backup. I do have another slightly older USB backup as well (belt and braces) but am a little nervous if it's likely to break the main database (although I can live with broken trackstat). I'm also unusually busy (for me) from now until next week and am out about much of the time. If you still want help next week I'll give it a go (having first taken another backup - and hopefully my replacement HD will arrive by then). I normally only scan Custom and Mixed. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
:///D:/Music/playlists/TrackStat%20Played.m3u [11-08-31 18:07:49.0165] Slim::Formats::Playlists::Base::playlistEntryIsValid (120) Warning: file:///D:/Music/flac/Classical/W/Wagner/Tristan%20und%20Isolde/de%20la%20Salle/1-09%20-%20Trisatan%20und%20Isolde%20-%20Liebestod%20S.447.flac found in playlist: file:///D:/Music/playlists/TrackStat%20Played.m3u doesn't exist on disk - skipping! [11-08-31 18:07:49.0178] Slim::Formats::Playlists::Base::playlistEntryIsValid (120) Warning: file:///D:/Music/flac/Classical/W/Wagner/Tristan%20und%20Isolde/de%20la%20Salle/1-09%20-%20Trisatan%20und%20Isolde%20-%20Liebestod%20S.447.flac found in playlist: file:///D:/Music/playlists/TrackStat%20Played.m3u doesn't exist on disk - skipping! [11-08-31 18:07:49.3113] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (396) Rescanning changed files (0) [11-08-31 18:07:49.4161] Slim::Music::Artwork::precacheAllArtwork (442) Starting precacheArtwork for 61 albums [11-08-31 18:07:49.5030] Slim::Music::Artwork::__ANON__ (535) precacheArtwork finished in 0.0849719047546387 [11-08-31 18:07:49.5035] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (592) Completed precacheArtwork Scan in 0 seconds. [11-08-31 18:07:49.5357] Slim::Music::Import::runScanPostProcessing (375) Starting Database optimization. [11-08-31 18:07:50.5446] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (592) Completed dbOptimize Scan in 1 seconds. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
::Scanner::Local::new (783) Handling new playlist file:///D:/Music/playlists/TrackStat%20Played.m3u [11-08-31 20:16:26.5373] Slim::Formats::Playlists::Base::playlistEntryIsValid (120) Warning: file:///D:/Music/flac/Classical/W/Wagner/Tristan%20und%20Isolde/de%20la%20Salle/1-09%20-%20Trisatan%20und%20Isolde%20-%20Liebestod%20S.447.flac found in playlist: file:///D:/Music/playlists/TrackStat%20Played.m3u doesn't exist on disk - skipping! [11-08-31 20:16:26.5386] Slim::Formats::Playlists::Base::playlistEntryIsValid (120) Warning: file:///D:/Music/flac/Classical/W/Wagner/Tristan%20und%20Isolde/de%20la%20Salle/1-09%20-%20Trisatan%20und%20Isolde%20-%20Liebestod%20S.447.flac found in playlist: file:///D:/Music/playlists/TrackStat%20Played.m3u doesn't exist on disk - skipping! [11-08-31 20:16:26.8504] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (396) Rescanning changed files (0) [11-08-31 20:16:26.9110] Slim::Music::Artwork::precacheAllArtwork (442) Starting precacheArtwork for 61 albums [11-08-31 20:16:27.0055] Slim::Music::Artwork::__ANON__ (535) precacheArtwork finished in 0.092418909072876 [11-08-31 20:16:27.0060] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (592) Completed precacheArtwork Scan in 0 seconds. [11-08-31 20:16:27.0343] Slim::Music::Import::runScanPostProcessing (375) Starting Database optimization. [11-08-31 20:16:35.] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (592) Completed dbOptimize Scan in 8 seconds. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
And I should have mentioned I use Custom and Mixed tags, with manual Ratings tag. All 'refresh/rescan' options are set to 'Yes'. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
erland;654503 Wrote: Thanks for trying, it looks like it will require some bigger changes so you will have to wait until I have a new release ready. You're welcome. Post again here if you want me to try again sometime. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom browse menus stopping playback
Custom Browse menus with custom scan items are sometimes very slow to load. Sometimes they are so slow (1 or 2 minutes) and resource intensive that if selecting from the Touch, the Touch thinks the connection has been lost. Sometimes, if I am playing something at the same time as looking for something new, playback stops and resumes when the menu is returned. If I have to live with slow menus I will, but I can't live with playback stopping when perusing the menus. Most of my menus are based on the suggested Custom Scan menus for classical, with additions. The problem seems to occur with all of them. A sample (using the Custom Scan definition of Artist) is at the end of this post. Sometimes the menus are quick. I haven't fathomed a pattern. I do shut my PC down each night, so things do have to be reloaded, but my impression is that even when I have run a menu once, if I don't run it for several hours it gets slow again. I wonder if an in-memory copy of items is getting purged once in a while. I am on 7.6.1. For Custom Scan I have Startup and Rescan Refresh set to Yes, Automatic set to No (so I can control when it runs). I haven't added or changed any music recently. I've about 14,500 tracks on my PC. I currently have the performance settings with the Database Memory at 'High', server at -6 Above Normal, scanner at 0. I have very little artwork. I am getting close to giving up on 7.6. I suspect I've spent more time trying to get it work smoothly than listening to my music. This is not good. I must add that it isn't any fault of 3rd party providers such as Erland, but Logitech who hung on to the beat for ages and then sprung the final on everybody unexpectedly. This is a real shame. It is almost really good, but instability is almost fatal in a consumer device (unless the name starts with 'i-', for reasons I don't comprehend). ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? custombrowse template idcustomscan_multiplecustomtagsalbums/id parameter type=text id=menunamevalueAlbums by Artist/value/parameter parameter type=text id=menugroupvalueClassical Music/value/parameter parameter type=text id=menuordervalue50/value/parameter parameter type=text id=datasourcevaluemixedtag/value/parameter parameter type=text id=limituppertagsvalue1/value/parameter parameter type=text id=rolesvalue1/valuevalue3/valuevalue5/valuevalue6/value/parameter parameter type=text id=showartistwithalbumvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag1valueARTIST/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag1/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag1artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag1numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag2valueALBUM/value/parameter parameter type=text id=level2namevalueAlbums/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag2/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag2artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag2numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag3/parameter parameter type=text id=level3name/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag3/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag3artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag3numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag4/parameter parameter type=text id=level4name/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag4/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag4artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag4numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag5/parameter parameter type=text id=level5name/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag5/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag5artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag5numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=playalltracksvalue1/value/parameter parameter type=text id=libraryvalue2/value/parameter parameter type=text id=activelibraryvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=includedclients/parameter parameter type=text id=excludedclients/parameter parameter type=text id=includedlibraries/parameter parameter type=text id=excludedlibraries/parameter /template /custombrowse -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom browse menus stopping playback
erland;655078 Wrote: This particular menu can probably be re-created with the Artists menu template instead, I suspect a menu based on the Artists template will be a lot faster than this one which based on the Custom Scan data. Or is there a reason you have based this on the Custom Scan data ? Which CB menu it is is, I'm afraid, not relevant. They are all just as bad, for instance the one below. I'll look at this specific one, as you suggest, but the problem remains for most of my menus (which generally include 'work'). ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? custombrowse template idcustomscan_mixedtags.xml/id parameter type=text id=menunamevalueWorks by Composer/value/parameter parameter type=text id=menugroupvalueClassical Music/value/parameter parameter type=text id=menuordervalue50/value/parameter parameter type=text id=limituppertagsvalue1/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag1valueCOMPOSER/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype1value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag1/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag1artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag1numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag2valueWORK/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype2value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=level2namevalueWorks/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag2/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag2artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag2numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag3valueWORKARTIST/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype3value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=level3namevalueWork Artist/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag3/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag3artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag3numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag4/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype4value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=level4name/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag4/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag4artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag4numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag5/parameter parameter type=text id=customtagtype5value/value/parameter parameter type=text id=level5name/parameter parameter type=text id=customsorttag5/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag5artistsortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtag5numbersortvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=customtracktag/parameter parameter type=text id=playalltracksvalue1/value/parameter parameter type=text id=libraryvalue2/value/parameter parameter type=text id=activelibraryvalue0/value/parameter parameter type=text id=includedclients/parameter parameter type=text id=excludedclients/parameter parameter type=text id=includedlibraries/parameter parameter type=text id=excludedlibraries/parameter /template /custombrowse -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90112 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom browse menus stopping playback
erland;655078 Wrote: This particular menu can probably be re-created with the Artists menu template instead, I suspect a menu based on the Artists template will be a lot faster than this one which based on the Custom Scan data. Or is there a reason you have based this on the Custom Scan data ? That's certainly helped this particular menu - Thanks. As you say, it must be the custom scan based ones that are causing the problem. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90112 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom browse menus stopping playback
I did a couple of experiments with the CB menu items based on custom scan data and similar to 'works for composer' listed in a previous post. Right after a full Custom Scan rescan they are all quick, memory usage around 290M. When I restarted the next day, the memory usage of the server was much lower (around 186M). The first run of each menu based on Custom Scan took a minute or two. Once run, the menu is quick again. Having run most of my menu items memory usage was up again to around 218M. Later that day, after several hibernate/restarts, memory before hibernating was 183M, and after restart was 152M. Menus based on custom scan data were, once again, slow, although not as slow as after a full shutdown and restart. Memory usage rose to over 155M after running each menu. I have now (today) had to turn off all auto rescan and refresh features of custom scan since they made my PC's performance become very erratic. I'm still a bit unclear what 'refresh' does (as opposed to rescan), but turning it off seems to help general performance. One hypothesis is that hibernating and restarting a PC loses some form of in-memory cache of SQLite data for menus based on custom scan data, which did not seem to happen in SB 7.5.n based on Mysql. However, I have to say the marginal increase in memory usage after my last hibernate/restart did not seem that large. For info: persist.db is 238MB, persist.db-shm is 32K and persist.db-wal is 86K. library.db is 34MB, library.db-shm is 32K and library.db-wal is 430K. In persist.db, my customscan_track_attributes has 257K rows (customscan_album.. ..contributor are empty). I could extract other data if useful, or get some extra log data. I never had performance issues with menus on mysql, but I did have some issues with the scanning time. 7.6.1 is much quicker scanning, both SB basic and Custom Scan, which is a great improvement. And to reiterate the problem of this thread, when a CB menu based on custom scan is slow, it can be so slow that the Touch loses contact with the server and any track playing stops (not straight away, but after 30 seconds to a minute or so). -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90112 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom browse menus stopping playback
PasTim;655486 Wrote: And to reiterate the problem of this thread, when a CB menu based on custom scan is slow, it can be so slow that the Touch loses contact with the server and any track playing stops (not straight away, but after 30 seconds to a minute or so). It would really help me to know if this is a common problem, and if so whether it is likely to have a resolution anytime soon, or not. I'm fully aware that Custom Browse and Scan are developed in Erland's own free time, and that he probably has better things to do. I'd just like to have some idea so I can decide whether to revert to 7.5.n for now. That would have it's own problems, but not ones that cause me to scream :) -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90112 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: License Manager, plugins/applets going commercial
I also believe this is a sensible move for people who invest so much time and effort into improving a product. However, my ignorance knows few bounds and I am well and truly baffled. Precisely what License Manager are you referring to, and where is it? It's not on the web interface or control panel that I can find. It isn't in mysqueezebox account (is it?). I've spent ages searching and haven't a clue. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90410 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: License Manager, plugins/applets going commercial
Chunkywizard;658273 Wrote: License Manager is a plug in you can just install via the settings web interface. When it's installed click on its settings link and then click license options against the plug in you are interested in for details on pricing HTH CW What is it called? There is no such plugin on the plugin page as far as I can see (including other 3rd party ones). I have looked, more than once, and did a search for 'license' -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90410 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: License Manager, plugins/applets going commercial
erland;658279 Wrote: I just updated the central repositories so it should appear in a while, I'm not sure how long SBS caches the previous plugin/applet list. Thanks. It's there now. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90410 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: License Manager, plugins/applets going commercial
erland;658278 Wrote: Current plan is that licensing will apply to 7.4 and later SBS versions. Current plugin versions should work on 7.4 and later SBS versions, at some time in the future I'll probably drop support for anything earlier than 7.6 but at that time the older plugin versions will still be available and support 7.4 and 7.5 even though bug corrections probably will be focused at the 7.6 version. If that's the plan, which I fully understand, I really would need the CB menus to perform as well in 7.6 as they do in 7.5 before taking on a full license (I am already considering going back to 7.5.n as it is, purely because of the CB menus performance issues). -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90410 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom browse menus stopping playback
In an attempt to see if I can help with resolving this issue, I produced a custombrowse log at 'info' level when selecting my 'Works for composer' menu. The results, from SB startup was as below. I manually timed the menu load time at 1 minute 10 sec. [11-09-21 12:53:23.5363] main::init (350) Starting Squeezebox Server (v7.6.1, r33110, Thu Aug 18 03:48:58 PDT 2011) perl 5.01 [11-09-21 12:53:34.5023] Plugins::WaveInput::Plugin::__ANON__ (18) WavIn - register protocol [11-09-21 12:54:30.2457] Plugins::WaveInput::Plugin::initPlugin (129) Initialising WaveInput1.05 [11-09-21 12:54:30.2461] Plugins::WaveInput::Plugin::initPlugin (130) WavIn - initPlugin begin... [11-09-21 12:54:30.2480] Plugins::WaveInput::Plugin::initPlugin (144) WavIn - initPlugin ...end [11-09-21 12:54:41.7742] Plugins::DatabaseQuery::ConfigManager::BaseParser::parseContentImplementation (498) Failed to parse configuration (workscount) because: mismatched tag at line 10, column 3, byte 454 at /C:\PROGRA~2\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~3.EXEXML/Parser.pm line 187 [11-09-21 12:58:06.3483] Plugins::CustomBrowse::MenuHandler::BaseMenuHandler::getPageItemsForContext (925) Getting item data for 13 items [11-09-21 12:58:06.3529] Plugins::CustomBrowse::MenuHandler::BaseMenuHandler::getPageItemsForContext (1245) Returning 13 items [11-09-21 12:58:16.2514] Plugins::CustomBrowse::MenuHandler::BaseMenuHandler::getPageItemsForContext (925) Getting item data for 14 items [11-09-21 12:58:16.2534] Plugins::CustomBrowse::MenuHandler::BaseMenuHandler::getPageItemsForContext (1245) Returning 14 items [11-09-21 12:59:37.6122] Plugins::CustomBrowse::MenuHandler::BaseMenuHandler::getPageItemsForContext (925) Getting item data for 100 items [11-09-21 12:59:38.6799] Plugins::CustomBrowse::MenuHandler::BaseMenuHandler::getPageItemsForContext (1245) Returning 100 items -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90112 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
Results below for 1st scan. So far so good. I don't see much change in speed, but no issues thus far. Discovering files/directories: D:\Music\flac (19704 of 19704) Complete 00:00:40 Scanning new files: D:\Music\flac (14846 of 14846) Complete 00:09:10 Discovering playlists: D:\Music\playlists (8 of 8) Complete 00:00:00 Scanning new playlists: D:\Music\playlists (7 of 7) Complete 00:00:00 Custom Scan refresh (10 of 10) Complete 00:02:05 Custom Scan tracks (14843 of 14843) Complete 00:45:04 Custom Scan post process tracks (1 of 1) Complete 00:02:55 Custom Scan optimize (3 of 3) Complete 00:00:04 Pre-caching Artwork (68 of 68) Complete 00:00:03 The server has finished scanning your music collection. Total Time: 01:00:01 (Saturday, September 24, 2011 / 15.04.14) -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
erland;659425 Wrote: The main speed difference related to scanning speed will be if you perform a new/changed rescan, this should be a lot faster with this alpha version compared to the 2.8.x version in the official repository. I tried changing just one Custom tag and doing a 'look for changed' rescan. CustomScan is set to do an automatic scan. The SB scan took seconds. Customscan is still running 45 minutes later. Is that because I didn't change a standard tag as well, or is there something else going on? I notice there's nothing about the customscan in the server log for this scan. I'll tweak the log setting if you need a log. I also noticed that the standard scan details on the basic page did not show the Customscan phase, unlike it did when I did a full 'clear library and rescan'. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
The previous customscan never appeared to finish according to the 'manage scanning' screen, but the server seemed to be idle. The change I made had not appeared in the customscan database. I stopped the server, made another trivial change to the same tag, started the server, changed the log settings, and rescanned as before. Results attached. The forum would not me post the text: Images include use of smilies, the BB code [img] tag and HTML img tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator. I don't understand why. +---+ |Filename: customscan.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12526| +---+ -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: License Manager, plugins/applets going commercial
It all seemed clear enough to me once I understood that I had to install the license manager plugin and look at the settings. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90410 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
erland;659461 Wrote: Thanks, based on the log I think it's a bug somewhere, will take a look at it as soon as possible and post a new corrected version. I saw a new version of custom scan was out recently so had another go (I am also up to date on all the other plugins I use). I changed a custom tag on a track, rescanned for 'changed' only, and it all worked fine in a minute or 2. I tried again with a few more changes which didn't seem to 'take' for some reason, but at least custom scan ran, and ran quickly! Have you also done something to the custom browse menus that include custom tags? I may be wrong, but I think they have sped up back to where they were in 7.5.3-4. When I get time I'll do a few more tests, but this is definitely a major step forwards. Thanks! -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning
Some problems with the Alpha Custom Scan, as attached. I'm not sure what caused them. I was doing a scan for changed music and it hung. SB wouldn't stop, and the scan never stopped. +---+ |Filename: log extract.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12591| +---+ -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89768 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse / Scan features interrupting music
With the current versions of CB and CS (the latter being Alpha for testing but the pukka release version was no different) I'm getting more breaks in music playing whilst using menus. For instance, I just tried to go to the Custom Scan menu and select 'Various settings'. My music playing stopped for 20 seconds or so. As I have reported before, Custom Browse menus which use custom tags can break music playing for 30 seconds or more (usually after an initial delay of over 30 seconds), sometimes taking over 1 minute to show the menu. My current set-up for Custom scan is that all 'refresh' and 'rescan' options are set to Yes. Under 'Performance' I have the High model (4GB memory), server at -6 above normal, scanner at 0 normal. What else can I try to fix this? It's a problem that doesn't hit me for a while because I haven't been searching for stuff whilst playing. Then when I do, and I get long breaks, it is really quite a nuisance. Am I the only one to have this type of issue? It would be useful to know since in that case I'll have to dig into my Windows set-up to see if there's anything causing this. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90840 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse / Scan features interrupting music
erland;664929 Wrote: Just to make sure, you both have the Startup refresh and Rescan refresh options in Various Settings enabled ? Yes - both. Note that startup can be very slow (several minutes) if I have changed something without a rescan. Is it possible for you to install the Database Query plugin and run its Custom Scan Statistics report and post the result ? If you have already posted it earlier, just link to that post. I'd like to see the number entries for each tag in your library to make it easier for me to simulate something similar in my own setup. Attached (in xml format but with .txt extension since the upload doesn't like .xml). Does the issues only appear after you have used the system for a while or do they also happen immediately after a rescan has finished ? In my system response times are fine after a rescan. It's when I have stopped SBS, and restarted the PC and then SBS that it is worst. Do you have automatic rescans enabled in SBS Settings/Advanced/Performance ? If so, could you try to disable it for a while to see if that solves the issues ? Not available on Windows. +---+ |Filename: custom scan inconsistency.txt| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12647| +---+ -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90840 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse / Scan features interrupting music
erland;664989 Wrote: Could you try to enable INFO level logging on Custom Scan, activate startup refresh and post the log after a SBS restart so we can see which part of the refresh operation that takes time. Startup rescan attached. I also enabled 'info' on custom browse, but when I opened a menu this time it ran very quickly. I haven't quite fathomed precisely when it is that it runs slowly and causes problems. +---+ |Filename: sbs startup.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12652| +---+ -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90840 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse / Scan features interrupting music
My Custom browse menus for custom scan items are currently behaving well, but initial startup is very low (10 minutes or so). I am beginning to wonder whether some recent change in custom scan may be causing the custom scan data to be read into memory at startup, thus obviating the need for a lot of disc reads and delays when first using the menus. This behaviour is OK for me. I'm much happier waiting a while at boot time than having music interrupted when I'm listening. I can't be sure that the CB menus are now OK, but they haven't given me problems for some days now. I am on the latest versions of all plugins. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90840 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse / Scan features interrupting music
I spoke too soon. Having booted up my PC and checked the menus were OK early today I was then busy doing other stuff and not using SBS at all. When I tried to run the same CB menu that was OK this morning, it took 1 1/4 minutes or thereabouts. It's as if there is some disk cache flushing going on somewhere. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90840 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse menu variations
I have a lot of Classical music, with 'Work' and 'Movement' tags as suggested by Erland. Amongst other menus, I have one that shows all Works for a Composer, and then Artists performing that Work, again as suggested by Erland. On accasions I'd like to do this at the Movement level. The problem is that some Works have Movements, and some don't. In addition, depending on how I have filed things, a cycle of pieces may have either many Works and no separate Movements, or one Work with many Movements. I'd quite like to have a customised menu that showed every Movement, or if Movement is empty, the Work. I can't work out out to have a CB customised menu with this type of optionality. Specifically, if no Movement, use Work instead. Any ideas anyone? -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91348 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse menu variations
Thanks very much indeed. I am constantly amazed by the flexibility of your browse and scan plugins. I think the option to use tag mapping is the one I'll go for. It's re-scanning now and I'll see how that goes. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91348 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse menu variations
The combination tag you suggested works well. I could see that mucking about with the SQL such that there are different numbers of levels of menus depending on context was going to be hard. It occurred to me later that there was another option. My 'song' Titles are a combination of Work and Movement (with no artist information). So a simpler option might have been to create a menu: Composer Title (Track)Artist but I failed to make that work. I think it's because Title is not recognised as a tag by that type of menu. I imagine I could do the same trick with custom scan to create a new tag, but I was mildly surprised to find Title was not one of the standard mixed tag items. Am I missing something obvious (I usually am)? -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91348 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse menu variations
erland;667537 Wrote: TITLE can't be setup in Mixed Tag at the moment but you might be able to configure Custom Tag to scan TITLE. I'll consider adding it to Mixed Tag in a future version. Thanks. Custom Tag TITLE works well. I now have two options that work - I'll keep both for now! -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91348 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Plugin warnings
I'm getting the attached log warnings every time I start LMS. LMS is working OK (apart from not showing up as a media server). +---+ |Filename: plugin warnings.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12712| +---+ -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91392 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Plugin warnings
erland;667835 Wrote: Thanks for reporting, I think these are related to the new perl version used in LMS. I've got reports also from another user so I'm in process or creating new plugin versions that doesn't produce these logs. I suspect they won't cause any issues except for filling the log with a bit confusing information. That was quick! Thanks. That's fixed those. It's a lot easier to chase problems when the log is usually fairly clean. There is one slightly different one left [11-11-06 10:03:04.9196] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1304) Warning: [10:03:04.9193] Use of qw(...) as parentheses is deprecated at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/CustomClockHelper/StyleSettings.pm line 970. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91392 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse - Music Folders doesn't work on Boom
erland;669672 Wrote: Just out of interest, why would you like to use Music Folders menu provided through Custom Browse ? I have hidden all the standard menus (using Hide menus) and just use yours so as to declutter the menus. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91576 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Anyone else have problems with 3rd party plugins and DLNA?
I had several problems getting the DLNA part of LMS running, but eventually got LMS up and running, as admin, with the DLNA media server, and me logged on as a normal user. My configuration at this stage was with only those standard plugins I want, plus multi-library (3rd party). I also had not scanned my proper music library (since this takes a long time). So I then added the 3rd party plugins I always use (particularly custom browse and custom scan) configured these, and configured my full music library, plus photos and videos. I set off a scan and went away, since custom scan takes an hour or more on my library. On return, no LMS Media Server is apparent. I rebooted. Start control panel as admin, and started LMS. No DLNA Media Server. I can tell if DLNA is running simply by looking at the Network on Windows 7. It either shows up asa media device or it doesn't. Does anyone else have this problem? -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91703 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Anyone else have problems with 3rd party plugins and DLNA?
I have, finally, found the cause of this problem. If you install Custom Browse, and use the DefaultCB interface, the DLNA server disappears. Selecting a standard interface causes it to re-appear. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91703 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Anyone else have problems with 3rd party plugins and DLNA?
Mnyb;672594 Wrote: Did you notify Erland about it ? Yes -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91703 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Anyone else have problems with 3rd party plugins and DLNA?
erland;672627 Wrote: Is it related to usage of DefaultCB skin or usage of Custom Browse independent which skin you use ? I know there was a bug in a previous Custom Browse version that made the DLNA server stop working as soon as Custom Browse was installed, but that should be fixed in the latest Custom Browse release. It's the skin. Default and Classic are OK. DefaultCB and ClassicCB are not. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91703 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Anyone else have problems with 3rd party plugins and DLNA?
erland;673111 Wrote: I've found the cause, will be fixed in next Custom Browse release, I hope to be able to release it sometime later this week. :) -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91703 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Is anyone using ClassicCB/DefaultCB skins ?
NPendrigh;674080 Wrote: Because it is mentioned in your tutorial: - http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setup_browse_menu_for_classical_music Me too. I do click on 'now playing' tracks to see the CB track details, but could live without it. The data I want (non-standard tags) is available on the standard menus with an extra mouse click or two. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91889 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Anyone else have problems with 3rd party plugins and DLNA?
PasTim;673125 Wrote: :)The latest release fixed it. Thanks :). If you decide to drop support for the CB skins I won't seriously miss them. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91703 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: License Manager, plugins/applets going commercial
erland;677277 Wrote: I agree 100% with this, everyone have to decide for themselves if it's worth the money or not. I don't want anyone to buy the plugins if they don't think they are worth the money, in this case it's a lot better that they find another cheaper solution to the problem, exactly as you have already done in your setup. Not owning any i-devices I can't really comment on that alternative. I has seen Sooloos (at enormous cost) and Sonos. SB with these plugins is far more flexible, and I can add functionality as I go. These plugins give me the flexibility to do things I never dreamt of. To be sure I had to do quite a lot or work myself, adding tags based on Erland's recommendations, but for me they are indispensable. Each to their own. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90410 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse Menus - different behaviours
I have a selection of custom browse menus, all based originally on Erland's classical music suggestions. When I access these via the Touch (not the web interface) I see different behaviour patterns, and I am unsure why. Normally I use a laptop as my controller, but on occasions I use the Touch via its remote control. On some menus, pressing a letter on the remote skips to artists / conductors / composers starting with that letter. On others, it doesn't. On some menus, pressing + at some points (I'm not 100% clear on which ones and where) gives me the option of adding that track, or set of tracks, or album, to the playlist. On others it appears to show nothing when at any level other than track. I apologise that this is a bit vague. I haven't yet ascertained a pattern to the behaviour. Is there some fundamental difference between Touch menus based on standard tags, mixed tags, or custom tags, that I haven't understood? The three attached xml files (in one zip since the forum upload seems to fail with xml files) show Works by Composer, Works by WorkArtist (the prime Artist for a Work consisting of one or many tracks but not necessarily a whole Album), and Albums by Composer. The first does not support selection by single letter, the second does. Neither of the 1st two shows anything when I press + on the remote until I am at a single track level. The third menu allows use of a letter on the remote to find composer, and when at Album level supports + on the remote to add the whole album to the playlist. What am I missing? +---+ |Filename: Browse Config.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12897| +---+ -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92847 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse Menus - different behaviours
Thanks for your very comprehensive reply. WORKARTIST is a tag I have added in my files. I thought the 'alpha' meneulink did what you said. However, the Worksbycomposer menu does not support the single letter selection, whereas Worksbyworkartist does. I have no idea why. Looking at the the two xmls I couldn't see a significant difference (not that odd since the worksartist one was derived from the composer one). Once I have resolved this conundrum I'll fix others as you suggest. With these two menus, the WORKARTIST and COMPOSER are the top level. I have around 400 composers and 750 workartists, 18K tracks (so far) of which 15K are classical. On the Touch, the WORKARTIST menu shows big letters when using the slidebar, the COMPOSER one does not. On the web interface they both show A-Z lists at the top (if that is what you meant by 'page bar') . I understand the context problem. I'll just have to use the web interface (provided my laptop is working and available). Both these and other similar menus still also cause several minutes delay when no music can be played when they are first used after startup. I therefore have no use each one manually when I start up so that I don't get a delay later in the day when listening to something. I have 'Yes' in all the custom scan options for refreshes. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92847 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse Menus - different behaviours
The problem is, indeed, that the Composers in the WorksbyComposer menu cannot be accessed using letter navigation. I don't often use the Touch directly, so I may be mistaken, but I think it used to work. A lot of water has flowed under the bridge over the last year, with different SB/LLMS versions and some minor menu edits, so I can't say this with any certainty. There is no mention of COMPOSER in my Mixed Tag configuration. It is in my Custom Tag configuration. If there's nothing obvious wrong with my menus or other standard setting, then please leave it. I can live with it. The time taken for menus to work on 1st run after LMS startup is a much greater issue for daily use, but I guess it's a fairly intractable problem. You have a copy of my dbs. I wonder if you can see the same delays on any of your systems? -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92847 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse Menus - different behaviours
erland;682554 Wrote: I think they look ok, feels like it should work, might be something with the Custom Tag configuration maybe that's causing it, I'll leave it for now if you don't feel it's urgent. That's fine. I started to look at my custom/mixed configuration again. Is there a clear explanation of the initial mixed tag set-up screen? Looking at it again I am a bit confused. In one of your (old) examples (for classical music) you suggested tags: Album tags: ALBUM Artist tags: ARTIST Composer tags: COMPOSER Conductor tags: CONDUCTOR,ARTIST Band tags: BAND,ARTIST Genre tags: GENRE I don't quite follow the logic. Could you point me to somewhere where it is explained in detail? What does it really mean for CONDUCTOR and ARTIST to be mapped in this way? For instance, what difference would I perceive in behaviour if CONDUCTOR was on its own? I looked at the wiki but am none the wiser. I currently have, in screen order: ARTIST ARTIST,ALBUMARTIST TRACKARTIST,ARTIST CONDUCTOR COMPOSER BAND ALBUM GENRE YEAR Include custom tags - yes Names to show - ALBUM(Album:Albums),ARTIST(Artist:Artists),GENRE(Genre:Genres),YEAR(Year:Years),CONDUCTOR(Conductor:Conductors),COMPOSER(Composer:Composers), BAND(Band:Bands),TRACKARTIST(Track Artist:Track Artists),ALBUMARTIST(Album Artist:Album Artists),WORK(Work:Works),MOVEMENT(Movement:Movements), WORKARTIST(Work Artist:Work Artists),SETID(Set Id:Set Ids),TITLE(Title:Titles) (the extra spaces that show within the list above aren't there in the system - they are artifacts of this post). -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92847 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse Menus - different behaviours
Thanks. A glimmer of understand begins in my slow brain. To reiterate, my custom scan set up does not include composer, or conductor or indeed any tags except non-standard ones WORK, MOVEMENT, WORKARTIST, SETID (and latterly TITLE as well). I have another menu, Albums by Composer, which works fine, so the mystery is still there, but it isn't worth the time and effort to find out why. I took my basic set up from your wiki recommendation at http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setup_browse_menu_for_classical_music Too illustrate how differently people think, there is no way I would treat a Composer as an Artist. To me the difference between authoring and performing is important and I would not wish to confuse the two. Sometimes a person does both, in which case I'd include them in both of the relevant tags. Life would be very boring if we all thought the same way :) -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92847 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
I have an ancient laptop now running a debian flavour. In my list of
mixers I have an Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Alsa Mixer, an analogue OSS one,
and a Pulse audio one, plus others.
The only reason for having installed LMS on my laptop is to (try to)
use wavein to drive my Touch (for some websites that will only provide
sound via a browser).
I have used wavein successfully on a PC running Windows.
I installed LMS and waveinput, configured as 'wavin:0', or 'wavin:' or
'wavin:default'. However, none of those work. It stops after a few
seconds, as it did for thingswelostinthefire.
I have very limited knowledge of linux despite having been in the
computer business for over 35 years (much of it on obscure kit in
assembler). So I can find and modify stuff when told how. For
instance, I can see information in/proc/asounds, showing:
1:: sequencer
2: [ 1- 0]: digital audio playback
3: [ 1- 0]: digital audio capture
4: [ 1] : control
5: [ 0- 4]: digital audio playback
6: [ 0- 3]: digital audio capture
7: [ 0- 2]: digital audio capture
8: [ 0- 1]: digital audio capture
9: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
10: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
11: [ 0] : control
33:
But I don't know what to do with the information.
/etc/asound.conf contains:
pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}
ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}
pcm.!default {
type pulse
}
ctl.!default {
type pulse
}
Again, I don't know what this means or whether it helps in setting
things up.
If I have to run lms as a user rather than a service, because of a
permissions issue, how would I do that?
--
PasTim
Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch
on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to
ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using
Chrome.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa;690223 Wrote: This sounds like a sledgehammer to crack a nut solution. Why not use somehting like VLC to create a HTTP/MP3 stream using the PC audio from the laptop and let your player just like an radio stream ? Although a few years I got WaveInput working with Pulseaudio, it required a lot of work. If you are not using the VLC alternative - have you considered not using Pulseaudio andsusing ALSA instead ? Especially considering it used to have issues with some application such as Firefox. Why do you need Pulseaudio ? I haven't a clue what you mean about VLC. I'll try to research it, but having used waveinput before on Windows I thought it would be the best and easiest way. I have pulse audio installed because it's there. It was part of the installation I guess. I also have mixers with 'alsa' against them. I really have very little clue what all this is about. I thought it would just work (like it did on Windows once I sussed the ability to listen to 'what-u-hear'). How would I get it to work with ALSA? -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa;690234 Wrote: Basically Pulse audio virtualises audio and so you have an ALSA emulation to route audio through Pulse to the hardware. What you are trying to do with a LMS daemon to grab audio output from a process belonging to a different user and then reroute - needs special Pulseaudio setup - which you seem to have no idea about. So I suggest remove Pulse audio and configure real ALSA to handle audio. Then WaveInput should work as described in first post. I don't have a clue how to configure ALSA in the way you say - can you give me a hint as to where to go and find out? (There is such a vast amount of stuff to learn, know and remember, and I don't find much of linux 'intuitively obvious'). I don't even know if it is possible to do this on my old (2003) laptop. As to your suggestion of VLC, how would I get the Touch to 'see' the output from VLC? I can imagine it could if VLC looked like an internet radio on my internal network but I don't see how I could add that http station to the Touch. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa;690265 Wrote: The problem here is unlike Windows which has had only one Audio subsystem and but which needed a special program to be written to get the WaveInput stream playing audio . Linux has had OSS, ALSA, Jack and Pulse audio systems and many distros and but with well defined interface for which there is no need for a special application as any application can pick up the audio stream you want - as long as it is setup correctly and provide the correct interface designation. Neither of which are usually obvious. I only have minimal experience with ALSA (i.e. I only spent enough time to get things working) and if you look back in this thread most solution have not been available quickly but by spending time and trying out different possibilities. I'll help as far as I can. IIRC you were using some bleeding edge distro of linux. So first detail your setup and what you are trying to do so that we can step back and make sure WaveInput is the best/only solution. Thanks for the offer. Frankly I think it's all a bit too hard for me. I had, foolishly, imagined that what I wanted to do would not be difficult. People seem to be streaming all sorts of stuff everywhere. To make my need clear, the Gramophone website has a particular 'player' which it seems cannot be accessed directly as an internet stream. You have to play it via a browser on your desktop. So I want to capture the audio from there and play it through my 'Touch'. The Touch is in another room from my main desktop, so I thought to try using my laptop. That ancient laptop (a 2003 Sony) is running a debian flavour, which I suspect by now is a mix of several different ones now, bleeding or otherwise. However, it runs fine, so I'm trying to leave well alone. My first attempt was to install LMS (which went like a breeze, somewhat to my surprise - not long a go I had a devil of a job trying to get SBS to run on Llnux). I thought the waveinput plugin would then do the job. It seems it might if I knew enough about different audio software on linux - but I don't. I'm not keen to deinstall stuf like pulse audio, since something else will probably break if I fool around too much (eg Skype or some other software on the laptop). So taking a clue from you, I have taken a quick look at VLC, and some of the related threads on that subject. It looks very versatile. So versatile that it may take me months to get to anywhere with it. I can see that if I can get VLC to capture the audio and broadcast it on http, my main SB server could pick it up via http:192.168.1.n:8080, and then my Touch would play it. Getting VLC to capture the audio seems to be the hard bit. I'll investigate that route for a while. Thanks again. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa;690288 Wrote:
I think VLC may be the simplest route (i.e. fewest changes to underlying
system).
Before trying to get VLC to work - go back to basics. Once you are
sure the device to use for capture - then streaming is easy.
Can you capture the audio using the Sound Recorder application ?
next can you capture the audio using arecord from a shell prompt ?
edit:
From another post
This is what another user used to stream a CD to a player.
Code:
vlc -vvv cdda:///dev/hda --sout
#transcode{acodec=mpga,ab=128}:standard{access=http,mux=raw,url=:8080/vlcstream.mp3}
Thanks, I'm sure you are right, but...
I've spent the last 2 hours trying to find the name and format of the
audio device that vlc will accept, to no avail.
Sound Recorder works - with 'Master' as the only available input.
With arecord I can't find which device (or PCM?) to use. with 'pulse'
it takes all audio including the microphone and I can't switch it off.
I'm at a loss how to learn enough to be able to find such things out
for myself.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa;690323 Wrote:
On my Ubuntu system I got a ALSA config working with Pulseaudio but
using arecord the quality was terrible - I can't figuire out what is
wrong (e.g.another signal is being mixed in).
So I changed to an all Pulaseaudio solution using parec command
instead of arecord. There are two steps.
1. Find the monitor source of your PC audio using somehting like
Code:
pacmd list | grep .monitor
2. Use the relevant monitor source in a parec command such as to
record into a falc file.
Code:
parec -d alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor
--file-format=flac parec.flc
The above can eb used to test recording of the audio. You should
test this (especially with Gramaphone) before doing more work as
Flash audio and Pulse Audio have been known not to work well with
some configs.
If it works OK - then the next steps will depend on your config.
Q. When running LMS and playing the Gramaphone and recording the
audio stream using parec - is the LMS process directly in the same
process tree (i.e. all started from the same user login) as the
pulseaudio --start process ?
It took many, many hours, but I got vlc to work in the end.
On my debian (wheezy) laptop, obtained the latest vlc version 1.2 and
built it (I tried 2.1 but couldn't get it to build properly). This was
a painful process, requiring many libraries to be added. When some could
not be added, sometimes removing one of the conflicting ones, then
adding it back in (getting a slightly different version) eventually
worked. Some of the missing libraries were said by the vlc ./configure
command not be be critical, but I found out later that they were.
Finally with a vlc that would recognise 'pulse' as an input I got it to
work. My command line is:
cvlc pulse://alsa_output.pci-_00_lf.5.analog-stereo.monitor
:sout='#transcode{vcodec=none,acodec=mp3,ab=320,channels=2,samplerate=44100}:http{dst=:8079/st.mp3}'
:no-sout-rtp-sap :no-sout-standard-sap
A few notes:
- cvlc runs vlc silently (I use killall vlc to stop it)
- the alsa_output. name comes from looking at the information shown
by the same pacmd command you used.
- I tried using acodec=vorb for OGG but overloaded the laptop and got
breakup
- I didn't get flac to work - no doubt some form of codec issue
- I am using my headphone socket adaptor plugged in to stop the audio
via the speakers on the laptop (I couldn't find a way to stop the
audible laptop sound without also stopping the streaming).
- I found pavucontrol (not originally installed) helpful in showing
what was going on.
Two tweaks that may also have helped. vlc has a 'real time' option
under tools, preferences, show 'all'.
Pulse audio has a file under /etc/pulse called daemon.conf. There's a
line containing
; realtime-scheduling=yes
Change this to
realtime-scheduling=yes
And
; default-fragment-size-msec = 25
to
default-fragment-size-msec = 10
Poured myself a beer, or 2.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa;690913 Wrote: Full marks for determination perseverance. A few years ago I built mplayer from scratch and it was a similar marathon task with the need to get specific versions of libraries. I've tried to get AAC streaming but it didn't work. IIRC Flac over http stream will need a mod to LMS conf file but I suspect just like AAC there is also some other VLC issue. Current Laptops have no analog audio control and so you have to use the plug in socket trick. In theory, with pulseaudio you should be able to make browser use a virtual audio stream rather than a real one and avoid this issue. However I think you should wait until you feel the need for more pain. Thanks. It's become very plain to me that Linux could never replace Windows as a mainstream general purpose O/S. Too few people would have the time or energy, let alone detailed knowledge, to get it to do what you want. I'm sure once you get very familiar with it things become easier, but not so easy that most people would want to bother. I can, however, see it working very well in dedicated single-purpose systems, such as Vortexbox, that don't really to change at all once set up. Alternatively, embedding it underneath a more user-oriented system, such as android, could do the trick. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bpa;690926 Wrote: Horses for courses. True. PS If you want to waste time you should try an all MS solution to streaming PC audio with Windows media Encoder (or whatever MS is calling these days) and then you might appreciate the flexibility of the Linux originated tools such as VLC. I know quite a few non-computer people who would make a good go of getting VLC to stream audio on Windows 7. The Standard Direct Show worked fairly easily with the GUI, once I realised I had to try different HTTP ports. Straying into less common codecs would, of course, lead to much greater difficulties. I know very few people who would be able (or prepared) to fight the current release of vlc to get it to work on linux with pulseaudio. On the GUI, vlc doesn't make it clear that much else other than v4l2 is available (whatever that is), and that doesn't work on my laptop. For 'computer people' the decision is different. Even without linux knowledge, and underlying understanding of computers, familiarity with command line interfaces and so on, make it at least feasible. For the general public there's little realistic choice. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Slow Custom Browse Menus and Custom Scans
(by the Custom Scan module) in the underlying tables (even though I don't use any sorted tags), so the ifnull function in the sort order at the end is not required. d) the 4th argument in the first selection (valuetype) does not seem to be needed for the top level menu (it may be needed once one gets down to a menu level where something can be played) e) but I'll keep the parameter that shows the first character of the COMPOSER since that allows one to use the first letter of the name to skip through the list on the Touch I am now left with: menudata select customscan_track_attributes.extravalue,customscan_track_attributes.value, substr(ifnull(customscan_track_attributes.valuesort,customscan_track_attributes.value),1,1) from customscan_track_attributes where customscan_track_attributes.module='mixedtag' and customscan_track_attributes.attr='COMPOSER' group by customscan_track_attributes.extravalue order by customscan_track_attributes.valuesort asc /menudata My top-level menus are now almost instant on linux, and take 20-25 seconds on Windoze (still too slow), so I'll head on to linux. Finally, note that although the lower levels of my menus are unchanged and still contain many joins, they are not slow in any environment. I assume this is because all the data has already been read into memory, and the range of items being read is much smaller (e.g. only things for one COMPOSER). Don't ask me why SQLite on Windows is so much slower than MySQL for these functions (but quicker for the core LMS/SBS scanning functions). I have no idea. I hope the above is some help to someone out there. -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93699 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux
bluto99;691722 Wrote: Thanks so much for the hard work! Had spent many hours trying to get VLC system audio streaming working in OS X and Ubuntu Linux without success until I found your post, with some minor modification on the source info am now streaming Pandora One (in order to get 192 vs. 128) from Ubuntu to my Squeezebox Touch and FWIW Ubuntu is running within OS X via Virtualbox It might be worth starting a new thread since this most excellent and useful solution is within the linux waveinput thread...and the related info in your VLC Windows streaming post was helpful tooanyway, thanks again Glad to be of some help :) -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49584 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Slow Custom Browse Menus and Custom Scans
vagskal;691847 Wrote: Thanks for posting this. What is this and how can I get it to try out LMS under Linux on my PC running LMS without destroying the current Win 7 installation? I have heard that Ubuntu can be run from a CD/DVD on a Win PC, but can LMS somehow be installed under Linux then? Get hold of wubi.exe from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer . This creates a second boot partition for ubuntu. You need to give it 17GB or so to play with on a disc on your system. When it completes it may show a 'permissions' error, but it seems all is well. When I shut down after the wubi installation I also got a BSOD (quite rare these days), but again all is well. In my setup, all my music files are on a separate drive, and I hold all my Custom Scan and Custom Browse menus there as well, rather than in the LMS directories. The idea was that both my Windows LMS and the Ubuntu LMS would share the same menus and music files. If you are a linux person, setting up ubuntu, installing LMS and getting it to share music and menu files is probably simple. If you are not (like me) then it's harder. This is not really the place for linux installation details, so a brief summary of what I did will have to suffice: 1) Get the dual boot system up and running - that worked well. 2) Try to find your way round the latest ubuntu desktop design - words fail me 3) Download LMS for debian/ubuntu and install it - that worked well - it starts at boot time and runs as a service all the time - use 'localhost:9000' from your browser to talk to it 4) Get ubuntu to see your music (etc) directory - in my case I did this by: a) Find the UUID (xx below) of the disc by using sudo blkid b) Mount the disc with my music and menu files by adding the following to /etc/fstab: UUID=xxx /media ntfsdefaults,noexec 0 0 where /media is the directory I will expect to see all my music and menu directories 5) Reboot 6) Check to see if your music other files are now visible under /media - if they are then all is well. If not, tear hair out and try again several ways until you get something to work. 7) Go into LMS, install plugins and set up the directories for custom browse and custom scan to point to the shared directories, set up the music library directory on the first set-up screen, and then rescan 8) be astonished at how much quicker it all is 9) Spend ages trying to get other useful stuff to work under ubuntu, such as Squeezeplay, and pretty much give up on it, deciding a dedicated LMS server is what I need, that does nothing at all except store and play my music. Good luck! -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93699 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Slow Custom Browse Menus and Custom Scans
erland;691951 Wrote: I don't think so, the issue is not the dual boot, the issue is all the other setup you need to do after Linux is installed to get SBS up and running when you have never worked with Linux before. It's not really that hard if you are willing to learn, but it will take some time to understand it if you have never done it before. Simple things like mounting a drive can be hard for someone that have never worked with Linux before, because it tends to be a bit more technical and sometimes you end up editing configuration files manually because all instructions on internet describe how to do that instead of describing how to do it through the user interface. Thanks Erland - you have it in one. So for instance I still have no clue how to get my shared drive to mount automatically without editing configuration files. If there's a way I'd be very happy to know it, but as you say, the internet is full of instructions from knowledgeable people (but not many from people who realise many of us know very little). You end end up doing things because you are told to, not because you understand what it's all about. Further, if there's a way to get applications you have installed (eg Squeezeplay) to run without having to create sh files, change their access rights using the command line, and still not be able to get them installed in linux menus, I'd be glad to know. Linux doesn't fully support either of my sound cards of which I have two. I had to discover and install several extras before one of them worked properly, and the other will never be fully supported. The card numbers change sometimes when I reboot, so painfully constructed config files don't work any more. Ubunto 11.1 also appears to have a controversial desktop which I am still trying to decide is either total rubbish, or just will take getting used to. For instance, you cannot start most applications without using the keyboard to type a few characters of the name. In an era when we are moving to touch screens, what's that about? I tried to install odbc for SQLite so I could look at the LMS databases. No luck so far. On Windows it worked 1st time, with no configuration files to edit. Oh, and by the way, I cannot, for the life of me, get Ubuntu to share directories with my other half's Windows machine. Having tried about 20 different things I have probably got to the point where I would need to reinstall from scratch to clear up the damage. I picked Ubuntu current, stable, because I was told my previous attempt at a distro on a laptop (Linux Mint Debian) was too unstable. In fact I think the latter was simpler. I could go on, but here endeth the rant. A Vortexbox that I install and don't touch would be find. Anything else makes for too much work and never quite getting everything to be just as I want. -- PasTim Server on PC, 2 64-bit 2Ghz CPUs, 4GB memory (1 Million times as many as the first computer I ever programmed). Variously running Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu 11.10 and Vortexbox 2 on VirtualBox. All FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93699 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Slow Custom Browse Menus and Custom Scans
erland;691951 Wrote: I don't think so, the issue is not the dual boot, the issue is all the other setup you need to do after Linux is installed to get SBS up and running when you have never worked with Linux before. It's not really that hard if you are willing to learn, but it will take some time to understand it if you have never done it before. Simple things like mounting a drive can be hard for someone that have never worked with Linux before, because it tends to be a bit more technical and sometimes you end up editing configuration files manually because all instructions on internet describe how to do that instead of describing how to do it through the user interface. Thanks Erland - you have it in one. So for instance I still have no clue how to get my shared drive to mount automatically without editing configuration files. If there's a way I'd be very happy to know it, but as you say, the internet is full of instructions from knowledgeable people (but not many from people who realise many of us know very little). You end end up doing things because you are told to, not because you understand what it's all about. Further, if there's a way to get applications you have installed (eg Squeezeplay) to run without having to create sh files, change their access rights using the command line, and still not be able to get them installed in linux menus, I'd be glad to know. Linux doesn't fully support either of my sound cards of which I have two. I had to discover and install several extras before one of them worked properly, and the other will never be fully supported. The card numbers change sometimes when I reboot, so painfully constructed config files don't work any more. Ubunto 11.1 also appears to have a controversial desktop which I am still trying to decide is either total rubbish, or just will take getting used to. For instance, you cannot start most applications without using the keyboard to type a few characters of the name. In an era when we are moving to touch screens, what's that about? I tried to install odbc for SQLite so I could look at the LMS databases. No luck so far. On Windows it worked 1st time, with no configuration files to edit. Oh, and by the way, I cannot, for the life of me, get Ubuntu to share directories with my other half's Windows machine. Having tried about 20 different things I have probably got to the point where I would need to reinstall from scratch to clear up the damage. I picked Ubuntu current, stable, because I was told my previous attempt at a distro on a laptop (Linux Mint Debian) was too unstable. In fact I think the latter was simpler. I could go on, but here endeth the rant. A Vortexbox that I install and don't touch would be find. Anything else makes for too much work and never quite getting everything to be just as I want. -- PasTim Server on PC, 2 64-bit 2Ghz CPUs, 4GB memory (1 Million times as many as the first computer I ever programmed). Variously running Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu 11.10 and Vortexbox 2 on VirtualBox. All FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93699 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Slow Custom Browse Menus and Custom Scans
erland;692026 Wrote: I use the Firefox add-on SQLite Manager, works good enough. The command line sqlite client on my Ubuntu boxes is to old so it doesn't support the WAL technology which SBS/LMS uses for its SQLite database. I get an error stating that SQLiteManager: Error in opening file library.db - either the file is encrypted or corrupt Exception Name: NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED Exception Message: Component returned failure code: 0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) [mozIStorageService.openUnsharedDatabase] The access rights on library.db are -rw-rw-rw- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup 48886784 2012-02-22 17:50 library.db What am I doing wrong? -- PasTim Server on PC, 2 64-bit 2Ghz CPUs, 4GB memory (1 Million times as many as the first computer I ever programmed). Variously running Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu 11.10 and Vortexbox 2 on VirtualBox. All FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93699 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Slow Custom Browse Menus and Custom Scans
PasTim;692036 Wrote: I get an error stating that SQLiteManager: Error in opening file library.db - either the file is encrypted or corrupt Exception Name: NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED Exception Message: Component returned failure code: 0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) [mozIStorageService.openUnsharedDatabase] The access rights on library.db are -rw-rw-rw- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup 48886784 2012-02-22 17:50 library.db What am I doing wrong? Solved. The SQLiteManager error and your comment about the -wal file got my brain working at last. I changed the access rights to .db, db-wal and .db-shm (just in case) to 666 and now all methods work. That includes the latest linux SQLite database browser (similar to the firefox extension), and the latest odbc driver with libre-office base. These methods had appeared to open the database but showed no tables at all, instead of giving error messages, which fooled me. Thanks again Erland. -- PasTim Server on PC, 2 64-bit 2Ghz CPUs, 4GB memory (1 Million times as many as the first computer I ever programmed). Variously running Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu 11.10 and Vortexbox 2 on VirtualBox. All FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93699 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Slow Custom Browse Menus and Custom Scans
erland;692038 Wrote: Is there any library.db-* and persist.db-* files ? In that case what are their permissions ? Your reply must have been at the same time as mine. It was indeed the other db-* files that caused the problem for the firefox extension, and also for the odbc access and the stand-alone SQLitebrowser. All work now. If the latter two had given any sort of error message I might have got to a solution sooner. -- PasTim Server on PC, 2 64-bit 2Ghz CPUs, 4GB memory (1 Million times as many as the first computer I ever programmed). Variously running Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu 11.10 and Vortexbox 2 on VirtualBox. All FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93699 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse playtype query
To avoid accidentally asking my Touch to play all my music in one go, at the front of some of my CB menus I have placed: playtypenone/playtype This works well. Unfortunately, including this also removes the selection of items at this level of menu by pressing a single letter on the Touch remote. Several of my mixed tag menus work without the playtypenone/playtype, and allow me to select items by pressing one letter on the remote. Adding just this one line in suppresses the option to play all, but also stops selection by single letter. Is this behaviour intentional? -- PasTim Server on PC, 2 64-bit 2Ghz CPUs, 4GB memory (1 Million times as many as the first computer I ever programmed). Variously running Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu 11.10 and Vortexbox 2 on VirtualBox. All FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93796 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse playtype query
erland;692798 Wrote: It's a bug, will correct it in next Custom Browse release, thanks for reporting. I'll try to release it sometime later this week. Fine - Thanks. -- PasTim Server on PC, 2 64-bit 2Ghz CPUs, 4GB memory (1 Million times as many as the first computer I ever programmed). Variously running Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu 11.10 and Vortexbox 2 on VirtualBox. All FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93796 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse playtype query
erland;692798 Wrote: It's a bug, will correct it in next Custom Browse release, thanks for reporting. I'll try to release it sometime later this week. I have installed the fix and it works well. Thanks very much indeed. I don't quite understand why when I use playtypenone/playtype at the top level of the menu: a) the 'All Songs' options does not appear at the top level (as expected) b) when I pick an item off the menu (eg in my Works by Composer menu) 'All Songs' does appear at the top of the list of items at that second level (as expected) c) but that 'All Songs' option does nothing (not expected) Please note I'm really not bothered about this since I'd never use the option at this menu level either. If it's an obvious fault in my menu then I'd be grateful to know how to fix it. -- PasTim VortexBox Midi, FLACs 16 or 24 bit. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. Old wireless laptop controls the server using Chrome. Squeezeplay on PCs in other rooms. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93796 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Custom Browse playtype query
PasTim;694555 Wrote:
I don't quite understand why when I use playtypenone/playtype at
the top level of the menu:
a) the 'All Songs' options does not appear at the top level (as
expected)
b) when I pick an item off the menu (eg in my Works by Composer menu)
'All Songs' does appear at the top of the list of items at that second
level (as expected)
c) but that 'All Songs' option does nothing (not expected)
I've sorted this one out on the Web interface.
What I want is for All Songs at Level 1 to do nothing, or not appear at
all, and for All Songs at level 2 to select all at that level.
I have achieved this by:
1) playtypenone/playtype at the very top of the CB menu
2) playtypesql/playtype at menu level 1, with playdata
containing an sql select statement to select all items for the
selection at that level. Example below.
What this does is to show All Songs at the top level, but it does
nothing, which is good. At the next level, it selects all items
appropriate to that level. So, if using 'Works by Composer', having
chosen a composer, selecting 'All Songs' plays all tracks for that
composer.
Code:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
custombrowse
menu
menugroupClassical Music/menugroup
menunameWorks by Composer/menuname
menuorder50/menuorder
playtypenone/playtype
menu
idcustomtag1/id
menunameComposers/menuname
pathtypesql/pathtype
pathtypedata
select distinct
customscan_track_attributes.extravalue,customscan_track_attributes.value,substr(customscan_track_attributes.value,1,1)
from customscan_track_attributes
where
module='mixedtag' and
attr='COMPOSER' and
extravalue='{context.itemid}'
/pathtypedata
menutypesql/menutype
menulinksalpha/menulinks
playdata
select distinct
tracks.id,tracks.title,substr(tracks.titlesort,1,1) from tracks
join customscan_track_attributes attr1
on
tracks.id=attr1.track and
attr1.module='mixedtag' and
attr1.attr='COMPOSER' and
attr1.extravalue='{customtag1}'
join multilibrary_track on
tracks.id=multilibrary_track.track and
multilibrary_track.library=2
where
tracks.audio=1
group by tracks.id
order by
tracks.album,tracks.disc asc,tracks.tracknum asc,tracks.titlesort asc
/playdata
playtypesql/playtype
itemtypesql/itemtype
albumjivepattern^(.*)\s\((.*)\)$/albumjivepattern
menudata
select
customscan_track_attributes.extravalue,customscan_track_attributes.value,
substr(customscan_track_attributes.valuesort,1,1) from
customscan_track_attributes
where
customscan_track_attributes.module='mixedtag' and
customscan_track_attributes.attr='COMPOSER'
group by customscan_track_attributes.extravalue
order by customscan_track_attributes.valuesort
asc
/menudata
menu
--
PasTim
VortexBox Midi, FLACs 16 or 24 bit. Touch on Ethernet (in another room).
Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. Old wireless
laptop controls the server using Chrome. Squeezeplay on PCs in other
rooms.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: License Manager, plugins/applets going commercial
cherryplinth wrote: I just signed up for a trial license. I am a long time user of SQL Playlist, etc. I used to be able to see 20-30 genres from which I could include or exclude in my queries to define playlists. What happened? Now I can only see two genres: classical and jazz. If those are the only genres I can design my playlists around, I don't want to have anything to do with this new commercial plug-in model. The interface seems to indicate that I am a licensed member for SQL Playlist useage. Thanks, Cherryplinth. Are you using multilibrary? If so, have you correctly defined the separator between the primary genre and sub-genre correctly? For instance, classical;Symphony needs ; defined as the separator. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90410 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Information Screen on Touch
I'm trying to get the Information Screen plugin to work on my Touch, LMS 7.7.2. Apologies if my queries are answered elsewhere but I couldn't find anything here or on the wiki. I seem to have two problems. Firstly, the files always seem to get saved to the playlist directory, even though I changed the directory on the 'Various Settings' page. Secondly, having installed the Information Screen applet on the Touch and restarted it LMS, with a 30 second screen saver delay and selecting 'Information Screen' as the screen saver (is that the right thing to do?) the screen shows no text at all. If I create several screens I can find no way to select the one I want. What am I missing? PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94835 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Information Screen on Touch
erland wrote: What do you like to accomplish ? I'm asking because I'm no longer actively maintaining the Information Screen applet/plugin combination because Custom Clock offers more or less the same functionality plus a lot more. For Information Screen to work it's important to install both: - The Information Screen plugin, in SBS/LMS Settings/Plugins in SBS/LMS web interface - The Information Screen applet on the Touch, in Settings/Advanced/Applet Installer menu on the Touch. I haven't tried it since 7.5 myself so it wouldn't surprise me if some of the changes Logitech have done in 7.6 or 7.7 has caused it to stop working. No worries - I just wanted to vary the content of the display on the Touch. I'll try the Custom Clock. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94835 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Information Screen on Touch
erland wrote: If you like completely different layouts of the screens you like to switch between, you probably want to create multiple Custom Clock styles and use the Screen Switcher plugin to switch between them. If you like the same layouts but want to vary which textual information that's shown, you want to experiment with creating multiple items and setting the visibilitytime, visibilityorder, visibilitygroup parameters. You will find more information on the Custom Clock documentation page on the wiki: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom_Clock_applet Thanks. I just wanted a slightly different text display than standard (more like that which I have on the web page). When I get my brain round the flexibility of the custom clock helper I'll sort something out. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94835 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins
I've been using the alpha version for Custom Scan for some time, mostly to very good effect. I appreciate it's an alpha, so the following are just comments, not complaints! - when a 'look for changes' scan finishes, the custom scan page says it is still scanning and never stops until LMS is restarted - doing just a ratings scan on its own, having adjusted some static ratings in my flacs, seems to do nothing - I have to do a full rescan - is this as expected? The alpha scan mostly seems to work well, particularly when I have changed a track's tags and just played it. Is it likely to progress, or have some of the features been included in the official version? PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49483 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins
erland wrote: I still hope to finish the alpha and make a real release of it, because I think it's the right way to go, but unfortunately there always seems like something else which is more important pops up. I currently don't plan to move individual features from the alpha to the official release, because most(probably all) features in the alpha version depends on the new design used in the alpha version so it will not be that easy to move an individual feature. I've tried to implement features in both versions already today if it's easy to do. But just out of interest, are there any particular features in the alpha which you would like to be moved to the official version ? I imagine that the tighter integration with LMS means you cannot move features, such as the custom scan info in the main rescan reports, into the previous design. So no, I don't think there's anything specific that could be moved. Since I moved to the alpha version I've also moved platform (to a Vortexbox appliance), so comparisons (of speed and interference with playing) between custom scan versions are not possible. I have noticed that LMS now doesn't let me play music even via a music folder when a rescan is in progress, which I find a little irritating. I used to use that facility when a custom scan was running. I'm not sure whether the old version of custom scan would let me do this (by letting the LMS scan complete earlier). PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49483 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins
erland wrote: Logitech disables Music Folder browsing while scanning is in process and since the alpha version of Custom Scan runs within the main scanner process it probably means that you can't access the music folder until Custom Scan has finished. I recently decided to change my track rating scheme. I should explain that I'm not interested in dynamic ratings - all my ratings are set up in tags in my flacs. I changed a whole bunch, but trying to get the Alpha Custom Scan to just rescan ratings seemed to do nothing at all. I then did a full rescan but still some of my ratings were unchanged. Trackstat is set to no do any automatic changes so I'm puzzled as to how this all works. Still, given that I was using an Alpha Custom Scan I decided to go back to the standard version, and it now seems to be changing the ratings correctly (it's still running). You may want to look at that part of the Alpha when you get around to it. One benefit of the old scanner is that, as you have agreed in your previous post, you can at least use the Music Folder whilst the old Custom Scan is still running, and this is quite useful when scans take a couple of hours. I thought I'd look at the logs, not having looked for ages. With the Alpha Custom Scan there are a great number of logs like the one in the attachment (the forum won't let me post the text, I don't know why, something to do with images, of which there are none - gr) sometimes with different PLUGIN_ strings missing. Again, I'm not complaining, just giving you some information you may find useful about the Alpha version. +---+ |Filename: log.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13304| +---+ PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49483 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins
erland wrote: This string only exists in the alpha version, so it does indicate that something remains. Not sure if it's something on the server side or on the web browser, I would try to: 1. Empty the web browser cache and restart the web browser 2. If the above doesn't help, try to uninstall Custom Scan, then shutdown SBS/LMS and goto Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins directory and verify that there is no CustomScan directory and after verifying that install the CustomScan non alpha version you like to use. Hopefully this will make sure the log messages stops. Let me know if 1 or 2 solved the issue, because I had another user with similar issues a few days back with the SocialMusicDiscovery plugin, so I like to know what the solution is. I suspect the old directory remained. I will give it another try when I have solved my current, related, problem, which is about ratings. It seems that even having changed fixed ratings in my flacs, some of the previous ratings remain in one or more of the trackstat tables. I though the track_statistics table would get updated form the flacs, but it seems not entirely. I don't understand the link between this and the tracks_persistent table, but I wonder if the scan uses data from the tracks_persistent table in preference to that from the flacs. Is that correct? I'm assuming the tracks_history is just passive for information - is that correct? If I want to ensure the tracks have the ratings from the flacs is there any option other than to delete all trackstat data? You might want to know why I am taking this approach. It is simply that I want to ensure all the data is where it belongs, in the flacs, in the event LMS is defunct. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49483 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins
PasTim wrote: I suspect the old directory remained. I will give it another try when I have solved my current, related, problem, which is about ratings. It seems that even having changed fixed ratings in my flacs, some of the previous ratings remain in one or more of the trackstat tables. I though the track_statistics table would get updated form the flacs, but it seems not entirely. I don't understand the link between this and the tracks_persistent table, but I wonder if the scan uses data from the tracks_persistent table in preference to that from the flacs. Is that correct? I'm assuming the tracks_history is just passive for information - is that correct? If I want to ensure the tracks have the ratings from the flacs is there any option other than to delete all trackstat data? You might want to know why I am taking this approach. It is simply that I want to ensure all the data is where it belongs, in the flacs, in the event LMS is defunct. I'm going to have to apologise for my stupidity (again) but I am now well and truly confused. I have a Vortexbox appliance. When I set up LMS I created a directory for Trackstat under /storage/music and pointed trackstat to that directory. I now see that trackstat hasn't created any automatic backup files since I got my VB (even though set to do so) since it doesn't have access rights to the directory set up (as root). I changed the ownership, and group, of the directory to squeezeboxserver. I tried to create a manual backup using the trackstat page, but it says it needs a file name. So I provide a file name, of a file which does not yet exist, called TrackstatBackup. Trackstat then logs that it cannot open the file. Well of course it can't, because the backup has not yet been created. I even tried changing access rights to my Trackstat directory to 777, but it still says Code: [12-04-25 09:55:56.9345] Plugins::TrackStat::Backup::File::backupToFile (68) Could not open TrackstatBackup for writing. What am I missing? PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49483 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins
erland wrote: This string only exists in the alpha version, so it does indicate that something remains. Not sure if it's something on the server side or on the web browser, I would try to: 1. Empty the web browser cache and restart the web browser 2. If the above doesn't help, try to uninstall Custom Scan, then shutdown SBS/LMS and goto Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins directory and verify that there is no CustomScan directory and after verifying that install the CustomScan non alpha version you like to use. Hopefully this will make sure the log messages stops. Let me know if 1 or 2 solved the issue, because I had another user with similar issues a few days back with the SocialMusicDiscovery plugin, so I like to know what the solution is. To be clear, the problem started when I switched to the old version of Custom Scan, stopping and restarting LMS in the process. The problem reported in the log did not occur today after rebooting both PC and VB, and doing a full rescan later in the day. I did not have to delete the CustomScan directory. My browser is set to clear a lot of things up each time it closes, so that may have helped. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49483 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
