sjalloq wrote:
I'm running a Synology DS213 and am having no issues. I installed LMS
via Package Centre and all I've done to get it working is update LMS
with bpa's plugin. I had ffmpeg installed already and I'm pretty sure
this came with the LMS install. At least I don't remember ever
Giza2020 wrote:
Hi guys.
Can anyone tell me which ffmpeg version to use on the pi b please?
I have it installed but not sure of the version. .ii used the standard
sudo apt-get command.
So how do i check version? Or should i just over write it using another
command?
I'm using
I'm running squeezeplug on a raspberry Pi.
I've installed the PlayHLS plugin and it was a breeze to get the HLS
streams playing (thank you)
However, I've started and stopped the stream a few times on a couple of
radios and I notice the cpu on the Pi is running at 94% and multiple
instances of
expectingtofly wrote:
Many thanks for this. I've given it to go.
I'm finding that ffmpeg won't work with the options specified in the
custom-convert.conf :
Code:
[playhls.sh] -loglevel quiet -nostdin -i $FILE$ -f wav - | [lame]
--silent -q $QUALITY
expectingtofly wrote:
Just a normal aptget -install ffmpeg
Actually, I think -nostdin is working and not the cause. One thought,
Is it just a simple case of a slow processor therefore no time for the
streaming to start, so it kills it to early? Do we just need to put a
sleep
bpa wrote:
Attempt at fix to kill off ffmpeg on completion.
Attached is a zip file. Download and unzip into a temp directory. There
should be two files.
1. LMS must be stopped when making these changes.
2. Save the Plugin PlayHLS files Bin/playhls.sh and custom-convert.conf
file
bpa wrote:
I tested the script on a i5 based Ubuntu 14.04 system and nostdin was
OK.
It sounds like different builds of ffmpeg so I have to get my Pi going.
Can you describe where you go anf how you installed ffmpeg so that same
version can be used.,
I can;'t do any more until later
bpa wrote:
There is a sleep in the playhls.sh script.
Perversely the faster the processor the bigger the sleep value.
It seems the problem with using the shell script is that that stdout
pipes are not connected by LMS when the playing application
(vlc,ffmpeg/mplayer) starts and so that
castalla wrote:
Just the binary - that big???
yes
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Parky wrote:
Firstly I want to say a great thanks to bpa and everyone else who's put
together tools, found URLs, badgered those in power and generally got us
near a point where we can get iPlayer back on the Squeezebox world.
I've put a bit of work together to get my combined
castalla wrote:
Couldn't you just add it as a zip attachment here? It's just the
binary, yes?
Unfortunately not, its 6.5MB zipped.
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castalla wrote:
Just the binary - that big???
I've sent you (and chipmonk) a PM with a link to a closed share.
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castalla wrote:
Do you know for the Pi whether a user has to install all the other
ffmpeg stuff and then replace with your binary - or is the binary itself
sufficient?
Just the binary. Placed where squeezebox can find it. With executable
permissions. /usr/bin/ is where I put it.
ChipMonk wrote:
Thanks again for the binary and this additional info. I take it from
this that one doesn't need to install the old ffmpeg first before
replacing it. I'll get around to testing it once I've done a bit more
fiddling with my new avconv file.
Yes that's right. Castalla's
bpa wrote:
castalla, expectingtofly
Has the rebuild of aconv fixed the problem of processes not dying ?
I've reproduced the problem on my Pi and it seems the only way to fix
the issue with the standard avconv was to use the ffmpeg_wrapper
script in the same way as the playhls.sh
majones wrote:
Well done for finding the streams. Having tried them in LMS, you're
right that they don't play - presumably because we need a transcoder
plugin that deals with the HLS/HDS streaming protocols? Hopefully Triode
can work that one out? It doesn't look good for us when Listen
Owen Smith wrote:
Listen Again still seems to be working, even for things broadcast just a
couple of hours ago. Radio 3 in 320kbps AAC and Radio 2 in 128kbps AAC.
Given the huge fuss about this I assumed Listen Again was broken also.
If I want to listen live I have the options of FM, DAB
bpa wrote:
No ffmpeg should shutdown.
Years ago, there was similar situation with AlienBBC and mplayer -
mplayer processes could stay around but it was dependent on some builds
on mplayer and some versions of Linux. Sounds like the same sort of
issue. If it is the same issue then it may
bpa wrote:
Any experimentalists ?
If you assume the HLS stream is always going to be AAC. Then adding the
following to PlayHLS custom-convert.conf file will avoid LMS doing the
transcoding if player can play AAC natively.
Code:
hls aac * *
#
Working out what the HLS AAC stream url is doesn't seem to be that
tricky:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_one/format/pls.pls
and
Owen Smith wrote:
I envisage an iPlayer plugin update that just gets Listen Again working
using RTMP. That appears to be quite simple, and covers a lot of use
cases (I've got several people at work that keep asking me when Listen
Again is going to be fixed, none of them use play live).
I
Owen Smith wrote:
I've written and published free open source software in the past and
I've supported it, for the RISC OS community. I don't need telling what
is involved in doing so.
I am not demanding anyone do anything. I'm trying to explain what is
needed to keep LMS alive for more
majones wrote:
Do you have the hack? Worth a try to keep the wheels on?
Yes, in BBCXMLParser.pm
Remove :
Code:
if ($entry-{'url'} =~
/http:\/\/www\.live\.bbc\.co\.uk\/mediaselector\/4\/mtis\/stream\/(.*)/) {
$entry-{'url'} =
The BBC have changed the XML that supplies the meta data for the listen
again streams.
This has broken this plugin.
Code:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/b054pj65/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http
castalla wrote:
Any chance we could get the HLS hack - I don't fancy having to go back
and restore rtmp from hls?
Sure,
Just do this :
Code:
$entry-{'url'} =~ s/redir/select/ig;
and leave out this bit :
Code:
slartibartfast wrote:
Sorry, I think I am losing track of all the new developments. Which
previous post are you referring to? Thanks.
Sorry about the lack of clarity.
A few days ago I reported on a hack I had done to the Iplayer applet out
of curiosity to prove that we will be able to access
PaulinPosset wrote:
Thanks for checking. I've tried both RTMP and the HLS hack, currently
using the HLS hack, but if you've got both working it must be something
at my end!
I've looked at the URL's and they're a different format to each other.
This one works:
Code:
I've been having a browse of Triode's implementation of the RTMP
transport protocol in perl as part of the IPlayer App. I've also been
having a look at what other people have done implementing the HLS
transport in scripting languages. I didn't see anything that
frightened me too much.
I
JohnB wrote:
Very interesting proof of concept.
I see you are using the apple-ipad-hls mediaset (for the
mediaselector/5) which, looking at just one Radio 3 programme, seems to
contain just one stream - 128kbps. I wonder whether there are any other
mediasets which give access to 320 kbps
I've had a quick hack of the Iplayer app to get it working with HLS
listen again.
It was very straight forward. No authentication keys or other
obfuscation. If somebody wants to do an official fork, this is how you
do it :
Amend BBCXMLParser.pm on line 83
Where it is replacing the media
Owen Smith wrote:
I was really hoping to remove the need for the PlayHLS plugin and have
it all done inside the iPlayer plugin. There are still some people who
have been unable to get the PlayHLS plugin to work (probably due to
ffmpeg issues), and it looks sufficiently troublesome I haven't
ChipMonk wrote:
Well, for the first time in this sorry business I'm stumped. Tried to
get Listen Again back using expectingtofly's BBCXMLParser.pm
modifications for RTMS then HLS streams but no joy. I'm using the HLS
plugin with avconv and the playhls.pl modification to kill multiple
copies
I'm using the superb SB Player and Squeeze control to turn my Zettaly
Avy Smart speaker http://www.zettaly.com/ into a squeezebox radio.
However, I am encountering an issue with 48000 sample rate streams (such
as the BBC radio streams). SB Player provides two options for the
output sample on
wt0 wrote:
> Squeeze Player uses the Android NDK to do it's decoding and resampling
> in native code, hence it's able to run faster on pre Android 5.0
> devices. Using the NDK gives you speed but not every class of Android
> device supports the NDK. I wanted SB Player to support as many devices
wt0 wrote:
> Make sure Emulate 192Khz is disabled. With that setting off, the app
> will report whatever the Output sampling rate is to the server when it
> first connects. So if you change that setting, you need to disconnect
> and reconnect.
>
> Also, make sure your server is setup to
Many thanks for this Michael.
For your information, it doesn't work on my raspberry pi B running
squeezeplug. :
Code:
There has been a problem running the Spotty helper application. Most likely
your operating system and/or platform is not supported. Please report the
adamdea wrote:
> Hi expecting.. I'm also trying to use with max2play. Are you using an
> original pi B. I'm confused by the first message saying arm7 and the
> second (uname -a) showing arm6
>
Yes I am using the original pi B. The first one is the "osArch"
reported by LMS to the plugin.
Hi Michael
An update :
I've updated everything on my Raspbery pi B with picoreplayer
uname -a
Code:
Linux piCorePlayer 4.9.21-pcpCore #1 Thu Apr 13 19:26:09 EDT 2017 armv6l
GNU/Linux
Spotty fails to start. running from the command line
I think that Michael accidently replied in the wrong thread. So for the
sake of continuation, I'll paste it here :
mherger wrote:
> > root@squeezeplug:~# ldd --version
> > ldd (Debian EGLIBC 2.13-38+rpi2+deb7u3) 2.13
>
> >
>
mherger wrote:
> I've uploaded a new version 0.2.0. No new features, just new binaries
> for Linux x86_64/i386/arm and macOS. This build should now run on
> Raspberry Pi1 / pCP, too.
>
> In the web UI (Settings/Advanced/Spotty) you should now get more
> diagnostic information in case of
mherger wrote:
> > root@squeezeplug:~# ldd --version
> > ldd (Debian EGLIBC 2.13-38+rpi2+deb7u3) 2.13
>
> >
> root@squeezeplug:/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Spotty/Bin/armhf-linux#
> ./spotty
> > ./spotty: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6: version
mherger wrote:
> This is the Pi 1 (not 2 or 3) B?
>
> What would "ldd --version" tell you? Could you run the spotty executable
> from the two arm-linux sub-folders of the plugin?
This is the Pi 1 B
Running ldd --version produces this :
Code:
root@squeezeplug:~#
expectingtofly wrote:
> There may be a small defect with the metadata fetching code in version
> 1.5.4.5
>
> From the logs I can see that a couple of radios were continuously (and
> erroneously) requesting metadata every 30 seconds throughout the night,
> event though t
bpa wrote:
> It is the "Stop at power off" that is crucial. With LMS no player is
> off unless you have unplugged it. The "sleep" and "off" just make the
> screen go dark and with the "Pause on Power off " just means the stream
> is paused. So metadata and other audio stuff will still keep
bpa wrote:
> Did you change the setting I advised ?
>
> With LMS - the setting "Pause on Power off" means the plugin keeps the
> stream open ready but paused expecting to be unpasued on Power on
> shortly. However BBC have a 3hrs limit so you get the erorr message.
>
> As advised before.-
There may be a small defect with the metadata fetching code in version
1.5.4.5
>From the logs I can see that a couple of radios were continuously (and
erroneously) requesting metadata every 30 seconds throughout the night,
event though the radios were off.
Code:
bpa wrote:
> To fix the problem, I need to reproduce the issues and so I need as much
> info as possible on how you got to this state.
> The log messages in this routine are in reply to a LMS request to
> display metadata. So LMS does not think the stream has stopped and radio
> is off (i.e. LMS
On a positive note, it's good to see that somebody at the BBC is keeping
the documentation up to date, it was updated a couple of days ago (even
if it was after the event) :
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=111sRKv1WO78E9Mf2Km91JNCzfbmfU0QApsZyvnRYFmU
phred wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can track down the URL for the sleepicon for
> use in a Custom Clock layout as displayed in the default layout for 'Now
> Playing' on a Touch or Radio?
>
> Thanks
Do you mean this one? :
I've noticed that some of the BBC's most popular shows are no longer
working on the BBC IPlayer
A couple of examples:
The infinite monkey Cage - Radio 4 - 16:30 on Monday
Kermode and Mayo's Film Review - Radio 5 Live - 14:00 Friday
This is clearly a problem at the BBC end. If I look at the
bpa wrote:
> I don't think that is good for the way iplayer protocol handler works -
> it expects to have URLS for different formats ready to go and it tries
> each one in turn - we are the "about to play" level of LMS not the
> processing of feeds - it kind of mixes processing and may have
I've been digging a bit more into the problem of some shows not being
playable on BBC Iplayer. (which just so happens to be quite a few of
the most popular ones)
It seems that the BBC, for whatever reason, has decided to not expose
the broadcasted versions of these programmes. But only the
bpa wrote:
> I'm going to play around with the possiblility adding in an extra step
> after AOD XML processing to fetch JSON playlist before generating the
> iplayer URL. If it works it will avoid "failover" processing and just
> become a away to add another format (e.g. mp3=") to the iplayer
bpa wrote:
>
>
> Very messy and will have additional complications - what is wrong with
> user playing the program with BBCiPlayerExtra or Podcast especially as
> the same program seems to be affected - user won't bother with broken
> programs on Player menu..
>
Yes, of course, that is fair
bpa wrote:
> I have created a test version (1.6.3) BBCiPlayer to solve the issue of
> "Listen Again "programs which don't play and are listed as podcast only
> such as 5Live Fighting Talk and R4's Infinite Monkey Cage.
> To install test version - replace the BBCiPlayer betarelease-repo.xml
>
bpa wrote:
> The usual reason for this (I think not sure way unless orginal version
> is found for comparison), is that the version that the Web & Extra uses
> is a modified version of the original broadcast.
Yes, something systematic like this is going on. The "Kermode mayo film
review"
mrw wrote:
> Seems to have been a bit of tidying up going on.
>
> The attached patch to menu.opml seems to restore normal service...
>
> 25644
Thanks
So essentially they have changed the name of the xml file from: (as per
the documentation 'here'
I have noticed that some programmes are not playing on listen again.
It's only a few, but it might be worth addressing as part of the never
ending herding of the proverbial BBC cats!
It seems that some programmes are only available in a "lengthened"
version, without the original or a podcast
0.0.2 minor update to bring the source of the content for the featured
"Podcasts & more" inline with the same source that bbc sounds website
and app uses
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Shozzer wrote:
> Hi, this is an interesting development - particularly with the ability
> to browse by category. Having said that, if I browse by category - say,
> Drama, the results which are returned exceed 3,000 - too many to browse
> through. The official Sounds website just lists the
Paul Webster wrote:
> FYI
> On LMS startup
> >
Code:
> > Warning: [09:13:30.1237] "my" variable $title1 masks earlier
declaration in same scope at
/usr/local/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCSounds/BBCSoundsFeeder.pm
line 364.
>
>
bpa wrote:
> OK. Just figured out I've been looking at old prototype code. I followed
> the sourceforge link in the repo XML and assumed the file were the
> latest. My bad.
oh yes! whoops, that is very old prototype code. I've fixed that link,
now. thanks.
Wigster wrote:
> This is great! Seems to work as designed running on LMS 8 on Windows
> Server.
>
> One request: is it possible to build an authentication system, so that I
> could have access to *my* My Sounds playlist through LMS? Even if it
> were to be only the chronological list without
slartibartfast wrote:
> I have just installed this and it looks very promising. One thing I
> noticed is that more often than not there is no transmission date in the
> program description. Would that be easy to add?
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Sure, I'll look at adding that.
AngloCuencano wrote:
> Thank you for this excellent plugin, and for making "My Sounds"
> available. In the BBC Sounds app, programs I've listened to are marked
> as such. Could this also be enabled in the plugin, or could programs
> that have been heard just not appear in the list?
For this
Version 0.1.4 - Minor update to reorder the menus to fix the offset
issue after sign in (and promote the "My Sounds" option nearer the top
of the menu)
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> Excellent, great to get access to My Sounds subscriptions.
>
> One minor point, after a successful login, the menu selections are
> offset by one, e.g. selecting Recommended for you takes you to the My
> Sounds sub menu. Going back to the Apps menu and reselecting Sounds
>
coyrls wrote:
> Excellent, great to get access to My Sounds subscriptions.
>
> One minor point, after a successful login, the menu selections are
> offset by one, e.g. selecting Recommended for you takes you to the My
> Sounds sub menu. Going back to the Apps menu and reselecting Sounds
>
I'm a fan of the BBC Sounds App experience of curated and personalised
content (and search capability), I've therefore created this
experimental plugin that tries to replicate this.
It is not intended to replace the already excellent BBC Iplayer and
Extras plugins , but be complementary to
bpa wrote:
> I think this is the right sort of way to extend BBC listening - users of
> certain BBC features develop specific plugins to suit their needs using
> BBCiPlayer as the playing engine.
>
Yes, I think you are right, although I guess we need to make sure that
there doesn't end up a
bpa wrote:
>
> Since you are using "parser" in opml menus, there is a potential LMS
> issues with Favorites if the menu item is playable and a favorite saved
> from the menu item. Not sure if issue will show up with your plugin.
> Main symptom is: "Touch to Play" the Favorite may not work on
>
This new release includes access to "My Sounds" and associated
personalised content
Follow the following process to sign in :
- Add your BBC Account credentials in the BBC Sounds Settings page on
LMS :
31883
- Select "Sign In" from the plugin menu.
This will trigger the plugin to
The following is new in version 0.2.6
- A fix for the menu paging issue if there were > 30 items in a menu
- The sign in page is now completely in the settings page. The option to
sign in from within the plugin has been removed. If you signed in on a
previous version of the plugin, there is no
I've been quite impressed with the new Times Radio national station here
in the UK. I've found quite a lot of enjoyable content.
They make all their content available in a 7 day catch-up service. I've
therefore created a plugin to access this content as a by-day schedule.
The plugin is
SpiderJon wrote:
> Everything's fine, functionally. And, fwiw, I think it makes more sense
> for all the sign-in stuff to be on the settings page.
>
> Just one comment the text that says
>
> "You are already successfully signed in, you can sign in to a different
> account by entering
bpa wrote:
> When browsing Speech - Comedy - New Quiz all episodes. Get lots of
> message in the log. It looks like there is some expected field missing.
> Also listing of programs with same title is not easy to distinguish
> episodes - however maybe BBC doesn't provide additional info.
>
>
I have now "open sourced" this plugin and the project is hosted on a
github repository here :
https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin
It is therefore now open to anyone who wants to contribute to improving
or adding features to the plugin :) .
I have created version
Paul Webster wrote:
> Are you OK with the stable repo going into the list of 3rd-party repos
> so that all LMS users who have 3rd-party enabled see it listed - i.e. no
> need for them to add your repo to their list?
Yes, sure. Is there a process I need to follow to do that?
bpa wrote:
> The community repository doesn't validate anything or check xml - it
> just means users do not have to add the personal repo url to LMS plugins
> tab.
>
> 1. To add - all you need to is ask.
>
Ok, thanks, I'll try and find out where I need to ask. [Edit], ah I see
you have
Paul Webster wrote:
> I think the idea is that only LMS8 sees the new github repo list - and
> this one would not have Triode's BBC iPlayer plugin listed.
Ok, thanks, that's clear now.
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>
> Maybe a misplaced hope, but I wonder whether this fully "signed-in" BBC
> access might reduce the potential incentive for the BBC to squash apps
> like the LMS BBC iPlayer, or restrict them to low-bandwidth content?
> Although they loose one of their objectives, full control
mherger wrote:
>
> I'd say we should include the stable version with the default
> repository, and users can add beta if they want to live on the bleeding
>
> edge?
>
That sounds perfect, thanks. Apologies for my ignorance, I can't see
where I submit a request for somebody to update the
mherger wrote:
> > That sounds perfect, thanks. Apologies for my ignorance, I can't
> see
> > where I submit a request for somebody to update the "include.json".
> Is
> > there a forum thread, or do I just ask here?
>
> It's fine, I picked it up and added it already.
>
> > I'm a bit
API call.
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Version 2.6.5 is in the beta repository now, and will be in the standard
repository at the next refresh (in a couple of hours). It includes the
following :
NEW FEATURES:
- Improved category browsing
- Persistent "Now Playing" information in the 3rd meta data line
- "Now Playing" Spotify
Shozzer wrote:
> I have just updated to the latest version and I am really pleased with
> the browse functionality. Thank you so much for taking the time to
> implement this.
No problem, thanks for raising it. it is a definite improvement.
Verulam wrote:
>
>
> Is it possible to have the option for a three line display, so that the
> now playing information can be shown as well as the program title?
Yes, I'll have a look at that. The plugin is not currently using the
3rd line l ("Album") at all, so I'm sure something can be
Version 2.6.0 includes the following :
NEW FEATURES:
- "Now Playing" track information added to live streams and
audio-on-demand catch up streams.
BUG FIXES:
- Fixed an issue with paused live streams restarting correctly.
For the "now playing" info, I settled on displaying
Version 2.5.0 is now available from the standard repository.
In summary, it includes :
NEW FEATURES:
- Live streams added to "Stations & Schedules"
- Live Programme as a "Track" in LMS allowing the standard squeezebox
controls to be used for rewind/fast forward/seeking the current live
Paul Webster wrote:
> Just tried again and it worked fine.
> Perhaps it was a timing/cache issue.
> Maybe it took too long to retrieve the schedules first time around.
Yes, could be. If there is anything useful in the log for when it
happened, I'd be interested to see it.
staresy wrote:
>
>
> One thing I've noticed, playing a live stream via material, I can skip
> to start of program (quick press on REV button) or skip back a bit (long
> press on REV). If I quick press the FWD button it causes the stream to
> stop and I can't resume playback except by changing
Paul Webster wrote:
> Log extract
> >
Code:
> >
> [20-11-21 08:23:42.5932]
Plugins::BBCSounds::BBCSoundsFeeder::_renderMenuCodeRefs (1249) Unknown Code
Reference : getScheduleDates
> [20-11-21 08:23:42.5936]
slartibartfast wrote:
> I have to say the ability to seek using the time bar makes it much
> easier to find Popmaster [emoji3]
>
And to listen to it a second time to get the questions right ;)
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