Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Antoniop wrote: > Hi Charles, > My Sugarcube licence has expired 2 days ago and I wanted to renew it, > but I don't see any "donate" or "pay" button on > https://www.spicefly.com/ > I tried to send a message with the contact page on the site but it > doesn't seem to work as I had no feedback after clicking on "submit". > How can I pay ? > Thanks > Antonio Found it, sorry. It's on the licensing page of course ! LMS 8.x.x on Linux Mageia 8 and RPI 3 1 SB3, 2 radio, 1 touch, 1 transporter SE, 1 chromecast audio Plugins : Trackstat, Smartmix, MusicIP, ... Antoniop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Hi Charles, My Sugarcube licence has expired 2 days ago and I wanted to renew it, but I don't see any "donate" or "pay" button on https://www.spicefly.com/ I tried to send a message with the contact page on the site but it doesn't seem to work as I had no feedback after clicking on "submit". How can I pay ? Thanks Antonio LMS 7.9.x on Linux Mageia 6 and RPI 3 1 SB3, 2 radio, 1 touch, 1 transporter SE, 1 chromecast audio Plugins : Trackstat, Smartmix, MusicIP, ... Antoniop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
After experimenting for many weeks, this is how I tweak Sugarcube. Hope it saves someone some effort. -Trackstat plugin for play counts and dynamic ratings -Custom Scan plugin for MusicIP export. This is not needed by sugarcube but helps make static playlists, for whatever purpose, using MusicIP mixer (Windows only) -I have needed MusicIP plugin to enable communication between MIP and LMS. Nothing to do with Sugarcube. -Set up a primary filter to exclude what you never want. e.g. Genre contains-Speech, Christmas, Explicit etc. Ratings-*, ** etc. File-Path to any undesired folder -Use this filter as the first criterion for any more needed filters -If no recipe is employed, MIP suggestions are controlled by the filter, Mix Style and Mix Variety in the Player Sugarcube settings. Style seems to be overlap of genres and variety seems to be the closeness of the fingerprint. Go up on Style if abrupt genre shifts bother you. Go up on Variety to dilute the MIP fingerprint match. -The number of tracks requested is in Sugarcube Plugin settings. Sugarcube using Trackstat will then select a track from this list based on past plays and ratings. The MIP suggestions are in order of closeness of match. If the total music collection is large and the request is for many tracks, Sugarcube might get very far from the best MIP suggestions because of stats. One can control that by limiting the number of tracks requested. -Net results are very dependent on the size of the music library and stats. After using for about 2 months, Im hardly seeing the best tracks in my favorite genres but expect them to return back after Ive played or skipped (decreases rating in my setup) mediocre tracks With the above setup, I have discovered the best way ever to effortlessly use my library fully. All of that has been made possible by the many wonderful developers and advanced users in these forums. guptaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21096 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
cparker wrote: > Auto-mix will use the settings you specify under the Player Settings > menu, its not related to the playing track. Its a preconfigured fast > play something and go method. > > 35391 > > If you want to use the current playing track as a seed, enable "Dynamic > Queuing" under Player Settings menu and it will automatically queue the > next track for you but only if you are at the end of the playlist, using > the last track in the playlist as the seed, otherwise it will stay > quiet. > > 35392 > > > > The ratings used are TrackStat ratings as used across LMS, nothing to do > with MusicIP ratings. You need to have installed TrackStat for this to > work, they basically sort the results and then pick the track so its a > bias tweak. > > Not sure if that covers all your queries, feel free to reply here, DM or > Email me. SC has obviously had organic growth over the years so I guess > has assumed knowledge, I try to lay it out clearly and e.g. ratings are > under the section marked TrackStat. But if you are new to LMS/MusicIP > it can be confusing, so happy to help and add further information to my > website, if any knowledge gaps just let me know. > > btw the latest thread is here for v5, but people like the v2.03 thread > for some reason, keyword search magic I guess :) > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112703-Announce-Spicefly-SugarCube-DSTM-and-Google-Traffic Thank you very much for making things a bit clearer. I cant wait to use this tool to rediscover neglected tracks. Will post to the correct thread with further queries. guptaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21096 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
guptaas wrote: > It was confusing enough to use 'Sugarcube Auto Mix' in track context > starting an unrelated mix. Auto-mix will use the settings you specify under the Player Settings menu, its not related to the playing track. Its a preconfigured fast play something and go method. 35391 If you want to use the current playing track as a seed, enable "Dynamic Queuing" under Player Settings menu and it will automatically queue the next track for you but only if you are at the end of the playlist, using the last track in the playlist as the seed, otherwise it will stay quiet. 35392 guptaas wrote: > I can't make sense of the drop down menu for Track Ratings and what to > expect between Disabled/lowest/highest when I can insert <2 right below > it. The ratings used are TrackStat ratings as used across LMS, nothing to do with MusicIP ratings. You need to have installed TrackStat for this to work, they basically sort the results and then pick the track so its a bias tweak. Not sure if that covers all your queries, feel free to reply here, DM or Email me. SC has obviously had organic growth over the years so I guess has assumed knowledge, I try to lay it out clearly and e.g. ratings are under the section marked TrackStat. But if you are new to LMS/MusicIP it can be confusing, so happy to help and add further information to my website, if any knowledge gaps just let me know. btw the latest thread is here for v5, but people like the v2.03 thread for some reason, keyword search magic I guess :) https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112703-Announce-Spicefly-SugarCube-DSTM-and-Google-Traffic +---+ |Filename: Capture2.PNG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35392| +---+ www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
After investing a lot of effort over many days, I have a large library fingerprinted, a headless musicIP & LMS working on a Docker/Synolgy NAS and love how musicIP comes up with an amazing sequence. Sugarcube succeeds in taking it a step further but has been very- frustrating in consistency-. Its simply amazing to see a perfect endless list which can be kept going for 2-3 days. However, without any change in settings, the same seed will lead to a list which has no connection whatsoever to the seed the next time around. GUI for headless musicIP shows no problem. Sugarcube Live view shows no communication problem but has a randomly selected set which is related to itself but not the seed. Attempted playing with SC settings for the player without any success. The standard MusicIP app works just fine. This leads to the second difficulty. There is -little information available on the actual meaning of the buttons-. I have spent days reading every single page on the Spicefly site. Am I missing a manual right in front of my nose? Simple example - I can't make sense of the drop down menu for Track Ratings and what to expect between Disabled/lowest/highest when I can insert <2 right below it. 35373 I really don't want to give up on a wonderful way to use music laboriously collected over decades. I'm sure this has been resolved because the last discussions seem to be back in 2012, so I have something wrong going on. This is all I think I have done inside LMS: - Exported stats from CustomScan to musicIP for ratings. Successful in including unrated songs as rating of 3. - Changes in SC Plugin Settings: Enabled TrackStat and 'Christmas' block - Changes in Player based SC settings: 'Always blocked artist' changed to 'None', tried back and forth 'Mix by Song/Album', blocked tracks rated < 2 +---+ |Filename: Untitled.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35373| +---+ guptaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21096 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
It's all good, everything seems to be working now, I feel better about it.. One more issue I should mention. Windows 10, installing MusicIP as a service... it works if you are running LMS locally on the same machine. However if LMS is on another machine you will need to go the windows settings and create a rule to allow packets on the port 10002 to bypass the firewall. If using the GUI to serve 10002 this is not necessary, but found that moving to headless requires a firewall rule. I did not see this in the instructions so figured I would mention. best waltonb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Just to add to what 33squeezebox_Fan mentioned, reading the patents a while back MIP fingerprints by taking the source file and converting it to a wav file before it does it's analysis. Therefore if you have issues they are likely in that conversion step, maybe timeouts, beyond the capabilities of the decompressor etc, so you could try using something like https://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm to batch convert to wav, then fingerprint and then copy the fingerprint back into the source file. www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Hi, thanks for your reply. My collection has hundreds of 24-bit LP rips I have made over the last several years. not to mention bluray dvd hdtracks etc. To recode these to 16/44 would be a daunting task! All of the files have been analyzed using MusicIP 1.9 on windows10, as my understanding was this would be the only way to obtain the necessary fingerprints at the outset. So anyway. For now I have fired up the same MusicIP 1.9 on a dedicated windows 10 with a full library and have enabled Spicefly Dynamic path conversion to cooperate with a linux-based LMS. just got it working.. will see how it goes. best waltonb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Hello waltonb, my experiance under Windows 10 and the latest MusicIP Version 1.96Beta6 is that MusicIP mixes diffrent Bit levels, but not very often. So I had the same immpresion you have. What I did to avoid it, I converted my 24 Bit or HighRes files to 16Bit / 44,1 kHz and let MusicIP analyze the 16 Bit files. Thereafter, I copied the 16Bit Fingerprint Tag into the HighRes and 24Bit files. By the way, I do it this way also for my DTS/DD-Wave-ALAC files ;-). Converting to Stereo and put the Fingerprint back into the DTS-WAVE-ALAC file, Otherwise I would never ever have mixes with DTS or DolbyDigital Sound. This way the mix works much better for me. Since, my HighRes or 24 Bit files ar not to many, it was woth doing it that way. Greetings *Hardware:* Touch,4Radio,2Boom,2 SB3,PiCorePlayer *Players Software:* squeezelite *Steuerung:*Squeeze Comander *Plugins:*"Lesezeichen, Custom Browse, TrackStat; Custom Scan; 'MusicInfoSCR' (http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins/detail.php@nr=446=slim-plugins); 'LazySearch 2' (http://www.hickinbottom.com/lazysearch), JustCovers,PlayHLS;ENM for Dreambox, and more. LMS 7.9.4 WINDOWS 10 2004 64Bit &'MusicIP ' (http://www.spicefly.com/)Server squeezebox_Fan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63027 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Hi Folks. Lately I have been using spicefly sugarcube again after many years off (v5.25). Everything works great except for one nagging issue. It seems that once a mix is started with a FLAC file which is 24-bit, the mix only selects 24-bit files going forward. So far I haven't seen a deviation from this, nor has any fiddling of mix parameters affected it. I believe this is true for 16-bit CD rips too, i.e. 24-bit territory is never ventured if the seed track is 16-bit. I'm running headless MusicIP server on a linux host, should I be running the windows headless instead? So far I have only used windows to do the initial file analysis. thanks for clues -bruce. waltonb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
cparker wrote: > Hi Bob, > > Yes and No, the current version doesn't track the bleeding edge release. > Although I run it locally and use it pretty much every day, I leave it > a few months of no reported issues before moving the latest.xml forward. > > You can copy any link on the Version page and paste it into LMS plugin > repositories to grab whichever version you want, or if manually update; > the XML file shows the zip file location which you can download, extract > and replace all the files. > > That said, I didn't realise that the install.xml was still on 5.22 so > I'll move that forward, thanks for the prompt! > > Cheers Thanks Charles, 5.25 up and running. I doubt it will happen but if I find any problems I'll report back. Bob 2 x Touch 2 x Radio 2 x Boom 1 x Intel-NUC server/squeezelite running LMS 8.20 (from nightlies) on Windows 10 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 x iMac server running macOS Big Sur WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM NAC 72 Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Focal Electra 1027 Be II Speakers bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
bobertuk wrote: > Hi Charles, I've been looking at Sugarcube history and noticed that > there are two versions 5.24 & 5.25 from April 2021. Following the links > only results in an xml display - i.e. no link. Is there a problem with > the repository? > > > Thank you Hi Bob, Yes and No, the current version doesn't track the bleeding edge release. Although I run it locally and use it pretty much every day, I leave it a few months of no reported issues before moving the latest.xml forward. You can copy any link on the Version page and paste it into LMS plugin repositories to grab whichever version you want, or if manually update; the XML file shows the zip file location which you can download, extract and replace all the files. That said, I didn't realise that the install.xml was still on 5.22 so I'll move that forward, thanks for the prompt! Cheers www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Hi Charles, I've been looking at Sugarcube history and noticed that there are two versions 5.24 & 5.25 from April 2021. Following the links only results in an xml display - i.e. no link. Is there a problem with the repository? Thank you 2 x Touch 2 x Radio 2 x Boom 1 x Intel-NUC server/squeezelite running LMS 8.20 (from nightlies) on Windows 10 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 x iMac server running macOS Big Sur WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM NAC 72 Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Focal Electra 1027 Be II Speakers bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
cparker wrote: > Two reasons I can think of.. > 1) You have SugarCube selected as the provider in Don't Stop the Music > plugin > indeed, that was it. I did not know this option. Thank you very much ! LMS 7.9.x on Linux Mageia 6 and RPI 3 1 SB3, 2 radio, 1 touch, 1 transporter SE, 1 chromecast audio Plugins : Trackstat, Smartmix, MusicIP, ... Antoniop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Two reasons I can think of.. 1) You have SugarCube selected as the provider in Don't Stop the Music plugin 2) The player is in a sync group but isn't the master player, so the changes you are making won't apply. In this case there is a warning displayed in the standard LMS web interface with a message which advises the master player, e.g; Warning Kitchen is a slave in sync group, make changes at Bathroom www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Everything is in the title: how do I stop Spicefly SugarCube adding tracks to the playlist ? I disabled sugarcube in the player but it continues adding tracks. Thanks ! LMS 7.9.x on Linux Mageia 6 and RPI 3 1 SB3, 2 radio, 1 touch, 1 transporter SE, 1 chromecast audio Plugins : Trackstat, Smartmix, MusicIP, ... Antoniop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Hi, I recently added Spicefly sugarcube to the active plugins in order to test it but it doesn't generate playlist. I'm using LMS 8.0.0 - 1603273434 I've got MusicIp working well on this server. When I click on AutoMix it puts one track in the playlist and plays this track only. When I go to Sugarcube Live view the current playing track is showed as "Coming Up Next", there is nothing in "Currently playing" Thanks for help LMS 7.9.x on Linux Mageia 6 and RPI 3 1 SB3, 2 radio, 1 touch, 1 transporter SE, 1 chromecast audio Plugins : Trackstat, Smartmix, MusicIP, ... Antoniop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Just replying to this very old thread; I recently started using Spicefly Sugarcube and am seeing a lot of the same alphabetically-focused behaviors that others reported earlier in this thread, so was wondering if this might've been tackled more in depth on the official forums, which are referenced but which I've been unable to find. Do they still exist and if not, is it okay to inquire about this here, now? typecrazy789's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
tamanaco wrote: Has the URL for the SugarCube repository changed? I'm getting a 404 error. I'm currently using SugarCube 4.35 and it appears to be working fine. I also just tried to access the Spicefly forums, but forums appear to be new and but have no content. My user id does not give me access the private area forum... if it still exist. Repository link is still; http://www.spicefly.com/media/scube4x/install.xml Yep the site has been completely rewritten from scratch and doesn't use Joomla anymore. The forums are open to anybody you just need to register. New stuff so far; Licensing SugarCube is now fully automatic and doesn't require any manual intervention from me. New Ubuntu MusicIP Installation guide for installing the GUI and headless, end to end with screen pics More to come in 2013 Cheers cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Has the URL for the SugarCube repository changed? I'm getting a 404 error. I'm currently using SugarCube 4.35 and it appears to be working fine. I also just tried to access the Spicefly forums, but they appear to be new and have no content. My user id does not give me access the private area forum... if it still exist. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
The website of Spicefly SugarCube has changed. Spicefly has now dropped Joomla completely and has been written entirely from scratch. My old username and password did also not work so I have made an new registration. wowo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18033 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
tamanaco wrote: Has the URL for the SugarCube repository changed? I'm getting a 404 error. I'm currently using SugarCube 4.35 and it appears to be working fine. I also just tried to access the Spicefly forums, but forums appear to be new and but have no content. My user id does not give me access the private area forum... if it still exist. Send a mail to cparker and ask, I think he prefers that people post questions on his own forum or mail them directly to him. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Capricorn wrote: It's a known issue. I've been using Sugarcube for years now, but this annoying habit has never changed. I think I started with version 1.8, in the meanwhile it's 4.0., but nothing happened. The only difference is, now it costs money I think cparker must know the problem, and I wonder why he doesn't fix it. Guys if you have issues with SugarCube please use the Spicefly forums and/or the Spicefly bug reporting system. Bitching away on these 3rd party forums complaining about a lack of support is ridiculous. Thanks cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
nervoteso wrote: i would like SC would do that but it plays always the same song or bandi don't know why...it happens with some bands, if they're not so famousi've set not play if already played with no luck... It's a known issue. I've been using Sugarcube for years now, but this annoying habit has never changed. I think I started with version 1.8, in the meanwhile it's 4.0., but nothing happened. The only difference is, now it costs money I think cparker must know the problem, and I wonder why he doesn't fix it. Capricorn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10217 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
erland wrote: I still think what you are seeing is how it is designed to work. The reason it happen more often in your library might just be because your library contains different albums than bakker_be's. If you only want to listen to the same type of music you shouldn't use SugarCube, the purpose of SugarCube is that it will not stay within the genre, . i would like SC would do that but it plays always the same song or bandi don't know why...it happens with some bands, if they're not so famousi've set not play if already played with no luck... nervoteso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30262 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Ok, I'm happy to report that things have been going great and I have no idea why. Anyway, this is a new problem that just cropped up yesterday. I just added this album (Rising by Rainbow) and it's perfectly tagged and analyzed just like every other file in my library but for some reason, SC refuses to mix it. I tried re-analyzing and re-tagging, as well as having MIP rebuild the entire db it but didn't help. Any ideas? +---+ |Filename: Clipboard01.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13531| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Ok, can we now definitively say this is all Sugarcube's fault? +---+ |Filename: MIP8.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13508| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: Ok, can we now definitively say this is all Sugarcube's fault? Don't know because I don't know exactly how the SugarCube selection algorithm is supposed to work, but in the last sample when you created a mix from a Blind Melon track there is an Aretha Franklin track in the returned mix. So if the SugarCube logic just selects a random track among those returned in the mix this could maybe explain what you are seeing ? My suggestion if you want to investigate this further is still to contact cparker on his private forum so he (who knows how it's supposed to work) can help you troubleshoot it. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
The problem isn't Aretha Franklin being selected in a mix where the seed song is Blind Melon though. It's Aretha Franklin appearing in a mix where Metallica is the seed. I think that's quite clear by now. And I've contacted cparker, let's see how that goes... Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: The problem isn't Aretha Franklin being selected in a mix where the seed song is Blind Melon though. It's Aretha Franklin appearing in a mix where Metallica is the seed. I think that's quite clear by now. If I remember correctly, SugarCube adds one track at the time and use the previous one to seed the next one. So, if you get a SugarCube playlist as this (which you posted recently): - Ride the Lightning by Metallica - Caught In a Mosh by Anthrax - Stop by Death Angel - Row Of Crows by Chris Poland - The Curse by King Diamond - Dancing On The Edge by Badlands - It Ain't Like That by Alice In Chains - Deserted by Blind Melon - The House That Jacks Buit by Aretha Franklin SugarCube only uses Metallica for seeding Caught In a Mosh by Antrax. And Caught In a Mosh is used for seeding Stop, and Stop is using for seeding Row of Crows and so on ending with The House That Jacks Buit being seeded based on Deserted by Blind Melon. However, this is how it worked a long time ago when I used SugarCube myself last, this might have changed in the recent version so SugarCube uses the same seed track for multiple tracks and in that case the current behavior looks a bit strange. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
I understand that but going from Metallica to Aretha Franklin in just a few tracks?! Why is only my installation doing this and not bakker_be's for example? Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
erland wrote: If I remember correctly, SugarCube adds one track at the time and use the previous one to seed the next one. So, if you get a SugarCube playlist as this (which you posted recently): - Ride the Lightning by Metallica - Caught In a Mosh by Anthrax - Stop by Death Angel - Row Of Crows by Chris Poland - The Curse by King Diamond - Dancing On The Edge by Badlands - It Ain't Like That by Alice In Chains - Deserted by Blind Melon - The House That Jacks Buit by Aretha Franklin SugarCube only uses Metallica for seeding Caught In a Mosh by Antrax. And Caught In a Mosh is used for seeding Stop, and Stop is using for seeding Row of Crows and so on ending with The House That Jacks Buit being seeded based on Deserted by Blind Melon. However, this is how it worked a long time ago when I used SugarCube myself last, this might have changed in the recent version so SugarCube uses the same seed track for multiple tracks and in that case the current behavior looks a bit strange. As far as I know SugarCube still works in this way. In the early days the algorithm wasn't as solid as it is now, so I'd use the built-in MusicIP mixing function to generate a basic seed mix, after which SugarCube took over, mixing in a new track each time upon playing a track of the seed mix. Now I just use the random music function, set to give me 1 track, and I let Sugarcube handle it from there. It's quite often that I don't need to shake out a new seed track for days on end. I've never seen behaviour like what Morbeas is experiencing. The only glitch I have is the existence of the nearly identical tracks on several different albums (initial studio album, various artists compilation, artist compilation, live album) that sometimes get played with for instance just one song between them, sometimes even jumping back forth, but that doesn't disturb me enough to bother CParker with it. Given that Morbeas seems to have this issue solely with Metallica-based mixes, I'd suggest that he re-rip his albums and analyse them all over again. I'd even be willing to put my files on dropbox or some other service for him to try out in his system. bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: And about Metallica, they're the band that got me into metal in the first place back when I was 13 so I can't help but have a soft spot for them. Though I do (unfortunately) agree that Metallica after Cliff Burton was never the same again. :( Showing your age there, seem you're just a little younger than I am, I was 18 when Cliff died. I also still have a soft spot for Metallica, just saw them live at Werchter a couple of weeks ago for the first time since Cliff's demise and I must say that Rob really was good. I thoroughly enjoyed it. He's no Cliff, but then, that's what Thin Lizzy fans also say about Phil Lynotts replacements. Next weekend I'll be at Graspop Metal Meeting (www.graspop.be) for some more metal, old new :) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
That's great! I've seen Metallica many times over the years and I must say their shows are still among the best. As a matter of fact, this is where I'll be next weekend: http://www.orionmusicandmore.com/ Ride the Lightning in its entirety Saturday night! :) PS. If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to takeyou up on your offer to lend me your files for testing purposes. I'll shoot you a message now with my e-mail. Thanks in advance. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
I don't know what to say anymore. :( It's now back to picking decent songs, just like the other day when I was typing you guys a thank you note: +---+ |Filename: Clipboard05.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13516| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: I don't know what to say anymore. :( It's now back to picking decent songs, just like the other day when I was typing you guys a thank you note: I still think what you are seeing is how it is designed to work. The reason it happen more often in your library might just be because your library contains different albums than bakker_be's. If you only want to listen to the same type of music you shouldn't use SugarCube, the purpose of SugarCube is that it will not stay within the genre, it will walk away into other genres, sometimes faster and sometimes slower and there is no way to know in advance exactly where it will end up because there is a random element involved. As bakker_be said previously there could possibly be something wrong with the analysis MusicIP has done previously on some of your tracks, causing it to switch genre faster in your library, but it could also just be the composition of your library that are causing it. Re-ripping the albums and re-analyze them with MusicIP might be a solution but I'm personally not sure it's going to change anything. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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bakker_be, I love you man. That's all! :) Erland, thank you very much as well my friend. :) Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Morbeas wrote: bakker_be, I love you man. That's all! :) Erland, thank you very much as well my friend. :) I'm guessing this means that the problem is solved :-) What was the solution that solved it ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Ok everything was going perfect! I'm going to lose it, I swear! I did everything bakker_be said and it seemed to work! I've been using it all day and it's been picking great songs. So I picked Ride The Lightning just now so I can take a screenshot to thank you guys and this is what it came up with again!!! WTF? ARRRGGG!! +---+ |Filename: Clipboard01.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13496| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
I'll admit this could drive someone crazy :D Let's go over this playlist: Metallica - Anthrax = OK by me Anthrax - Death Angel = still OK Death Angel - Chris Poland - King Diamond = can't comment on hat one, don't know Chris Poland King Diamond - Badlands = still get it, it's softer than most of the previous ones, but that's because King Diamond is so very Judas Priest influenced Badlands - Alice in Chains = still OK by me Alice in Chains - Blind Melon = seems a stretch to me, but I'm not really familiar with them Blind Melon - this particular Aretha song = I'm afraid it's acoustical analysis (which is what MusicIP is all about) is probably somewhat similar, especially as Aretha - Billy Joel actually again makes sense to me. Have you looked if somewher in that sequence MusicIP (and hence Sugarcube) didn't find a match to the playing song and queued a random one? I'd guess that to be the case, but if it isn't, just let this mix continue for a while, even if it isn't what you're really in the mood for right now. In my experience, MusicIP mixes, generated continuously by Sugarcube, tend to go in waves: e.g. if you start with some really uptempo song, it will gradually slow down, just to pick up the pace again later on. When I'm home alone, I unblock all genres, and I've had it go from Meshuggah all the way to Elvis Presley and back up to Children of Bodom, which at first glance may seem strange, but when taking the time to really compare things like key, signature, passion, rythm, ... of the song the individual steps actually make sense. I know this doesn't really help you if you want to create a metal related mix, but that's wher the blocking of certain genres comes in handy, although I too feel like more than 3 would be welcome, as sometimes i'd like to let it loop through exactly that. Maybe it's possible with moods or recipes first created in MusicIP mixer, but I don't know. As an aside: this playlist clearly indicates Metallica isn't metal anymore ;) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
I would completely agree except that this progression of (not necessarily in this order) Anthrax, Alice In Chains, Blind Melon, Aerosmith, Aretha Franklin, Badlands, Billy Joel always comes up in all mixes within the first 5 songs. I mean I do agree and enjoy a slight variation (which is why I have my variation setting at 2) but not within 5 songs! I'm thinking it should take more like 100 songs for it to go from Anthrax to Aretha Franklin. Otherwise if all I wanted to listen to was metal, I certainly would not go through this hassle and just use my NAS' built-in audio application and have it pick random tracks from any given genre. To me, that's not what this is about, though. I do want it to go from Meshuggah to Pink Floyd to Miles Davis and back up to A Perfect Circle to AC/DC to Pantera etc. Isn't it this exact thing what the variety setting is supposed to be controlling? Again, I'm so incredibly frustrated with this thing. I pretty much spend most of my disposable time trobleshooting this thing. It's become an unhealthy obsession! To make matters worse, I'm in the computer industry myself and can usually fix things like this with relative ease (hell you can almost perform heart surgery these days with instructions found by simply properly searching Google). :) Anyway, I'm now going to give Erland's above suggestion a try and see where that takes me. What took me over the edge today was that it worked flawlessly when I was testing it for a few hours. I started with all kinds of genres and let it go for 15, 20 tracks and it was just perfect! LOL I don't know why but the whole thing took a dump just as I was typing a thank you message to you and Erland and wanted to show it off by taking a screenshot and posting it here! :) And about Metallica, they're the band that got me into metal in the first place back when I was 13 so I can't help but have a soft spot for them. Though I do (unfortunately) agree that Metallica after Cliff Burton was never the same again. :( Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
LOL, I think this thing just hates Metallica! +---+ |Filename: SC5.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13501| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: I would completely agree except that this progression of (not necessarily in this order) Anthrax, Alice In Chains, Blind Melon, Aerosmith, Aretha Franklin, Badlands, Billy Joel always comes up in all mixes within the first 5 songs. I mean I do agree and enjoy a slight variation (which is why I have my variation setting at 2) but not within 5 songs! I'm thinking it should take more like 100 songs for it to go from Anthrax to Aretha Franklin. Otherwise if all I wanted to listen to was metal, I certainly would not go through this hassle and just use my NAS' built-in audio application and have it pick random tracks from any given genre. To me, that's not what this is about, though. I do want it to go from Meshuggah to Pink Floyd to Miles Davis and back up to A Perfect Circle to AC/DC to Pantera etc. Isn't it this exact thing what the variety setting is supposed to be controlling? What happens if you in the MusicIP application creates a few mixes from the Blind Melon track ? Is the Aretha Franklin track part of any of the mixes it produce based on the Blind Melon track ? I don't know exactly how SugarCube logic works and it's hard to tell because it's not possible to look at the code as it's obfuscated, but if it requests a mix from MusicIP with x number of tracks and just picks a random track from the mix result to add to the SBS/LMS playlist the switch from Blind Melon to Aretha Franklin might not be that unrealistic. I suspect this isn't really an error, I think it might just be that acoustic analysis works this way so even if your brain think they aren't similar the acoustic analysis algorithm in MusicIP might think there are some similarities. Morbeas wrote: Anyway, I'm now going to give Erland's above suggestion a try and see where that takes me. If you have done the archive analysis alternative already I don't think my suggestion is going to change anything, you can of course still try it but I suspect you are going to get the same result. My suggestion if you want to investigate this further is to switch to cparker's private support forum and ask for help troubleshooting it, I think he primarily uses his own forum to handle support to users, this thread is mainly here to make it possible for community members to help other community members. cparker has access to the non obfuscated code and knows how the logic is supposed to work, so it would probably be a lot easier for him to help you troubleshoot it. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Ok actually that was a great idea. Here are mixes done directly on the MIP GUI. You be the judge: +---+ |Filename: MIP3.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13503| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Not a single Blind Melon or Aerosmith or Aretha Franklin or Billy Joel track in 53 selections! +---+ |Filename: MIP5.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13505| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: Not a single Blind Melon or Aerosmith or Aretha Franklin or Billy Joel track in 53 selections! Could you try to do the same by clicking the M button beside the Blind Melon track in SBS/LMS web interface and then click MusicIP Mix to ensure Aretha Franklin isn't returned when you create mixes from Blind Melon through the Logitech MusicIP plugin. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
I'm really confused now because on the Sugarcube page FAQ, it states that there's no need to turn on MusicIP in the LMS Plugins, so I have it unchecked. So to answer your question, when I click the M icon in LMS next to an artist/album/track, I do not see a MusicIP mix option. Here's a screenshot directly from http://www.spicefly.com/spicefly-sugarcube/sugarcube-faq.html +---+ |Filename: MIP.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13486| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Is the Sugarcube FAQ wrong? Do I need to enable MusicIP from within the LMS plugins page? Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Also, mixes created directly from within the MusicIP app seem perfectly fine (the first song listed in each screenshot below are the seed songs I've selected): +---+ |Filename: MIP3.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13489| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
There's not a doubt in my mind that Sugarcube prefers certain artists for some unknown reason. Aretha Franklin, Aerosmith, Alice in Chains and pretty much every other artist in this screenshot come up over and over and over again. +---+ |Filename: Aretha.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13490| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: What are you running it on, bakker_be? Windows or your NAS or ... ? Windows Server 2008 R2, AMD Athlon X2 250, 8 GB RAM, 17 TB storage :) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: There's not a doubt in my mind that Sugarcube prefers certain artists for some unknown reason. Aretha Franklin, Aerosmith, Alice in Chains and pretty much every other artist in this screenshot come up over and over and over again. (Ride the Lightning is the seed song I've selected). I took the same seed song, and here's how my mix turned out: 13491 +---+ |Filename: SNAG-0285.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13491| +---+ bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Can't see your screenshot, bakker_be. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: Can't see your screenshot, bakker_be. I know, was editing it, just PNG somehow didn't work for me. it's on imageshack now :) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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BTW: never mind the missing cover art :) I'm busy trying to find out why that is happening ;) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Ok so your mix seems ok but why? That is the million dollar question for me. :( Would you be kind enough to post all your settings please? Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: I'm really confused now because on the Sugarcube page FAQ, it states that there's no need to turn on MusicIP in the LMS Plugins, so I have it unchecked. So to answer your question, when I click the M icon in LMS next to an artist/album/track, I do not see a MusicIP mix option. Here's a screenshot directly from http://www.spicefly.com/spicefly-sugarcube/sugarcube-faq.html You don't need it for SugarCube to work, I was just mentioning it because it's a way to detect if the issue is related to SugarCube or MusicIP. If you get the correct mixes when creating a mix from the same track in MusicIP (or through MusicIP Mix link), the issue is likely related to SugarCube or its settings. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: Ok so your mix seems ok but why? That is the million dollar question for me. :( Just one more desperate question from me. What's the full path to the music files ? I'm asking because I know some MusicIP versions have had issues with path's containing non US ascii characters, is there any accented character or other uncommon character in the music file paths that could cause an issue ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
erland wrote: You don't need it for SugarCube to work, I was just mentioning it because it's a way to detect if the issue is related to SugarCube or MusicIP. If you get the correct mixes when creating a mix from the same track in MusicIP (or through MusicIP Mix link), the issue is likely related to SugarCube or its settings. Since the MusicIP app creates proper mixes (see screenshots above), then it would be safe to assume the problem is with Sugarcube, right? Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
erland wrote: Just one more desperate question from me. What's the full path to the music files ? I'm asking because I know some MusicIP versions have had issues with path's containing non US ascii characters, is there any accented character or other uncommon character in the music file paths that could cause an issue ? A few albums do have songs with non-US ASCII characters but it's a very small percentage. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Here you go ... You'll see I've blocked Metal as a genre, but that's because that's where I keep the more difficult stuff, Metallica is filed under Hard Rock, as are Iron Maiden. Metal is for things like Mastodon, Candlemass, Savatage, (old) Anathema, Eths, The things that I listen to as entire albums and that drive my wife nuts. These settings strike a good balance between my music and her ears :-D '[image: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2152/sc01o.th.png]' (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/sc01o.png/) '[image: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9121/sc02.th.png]' (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/225/sc02.png/) '[image: http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/4835/sc03.th.png]' (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/sc03.png/) '[image: http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8375/sc04.th.png]' (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/sc04.png/) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Thank you very much, bakker_be. I don't see anything that stands out. :( Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: Since the MusicIP app creates proper mixes (see screenshots above), then it would be safe to assume the problem is with Sugarcube, right? I think so. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Well, seeing his complete lack of replies to my posts on this thread, cparker is proving to be a take the money and run kind of developer. I'm so incredibly pissed off about this whole ordeal and his attitude towards this issue. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: Thank you very much, bakker_be. I don't see anything that stands out. :( I've looked over your settings and they seem OK to me. Can you tell me which version you're using? Did you archive the analysis? I've recently had a corrupted MusicIP database and rescanned the whole lot. 13493 Mixes were good before, but now they're even better more consistent, which is probably due to the combination of the complete rescan (LMS + MusicIP) and the updated selection algorythms in SC. +---+ |Filename: SC05.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13493| +---+ bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
And the Sugarcube version? bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Sugarcube is 4.25. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
OK, default settings there, nothing strange in your per player settings. Would it be asking too much to stop the MusicIP headless service LMS, rename the default.m3lib (found in C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Roaming\MusicIP\MusicIP Mixer) to something else and let the MusicIP Mixer rescan your collection. After scanning select all files, right click and choose Archive Analysis, this will make future scans quicker. Restart the MusicIP headless service and go to the web page, reload the cache. Restart LMS and enable the MusicIP plugin (I've always had it active, I used already before Sugarcube existed). Set it like this: '[image: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6217/sc07.png]' (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/sc07.png/) Now Clear library and rescan everything. Fingers crossed, it should work perfectly now :) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Before I do all that, what you said before got me thinking. I'm now looking with MP3Tag at my files and am noticing that I'm missing quite a few FLAC Fingerprint tags, though as I said before, I do have all the FLAC Analysis tags. Could this be my problem? Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Theoretically speaking it shouldn't have any consequences, as all data is also saved into the MusicIP database (default.m3lib), which is where the mixing system gets all data. I think your problem is caused by a combination of factors: adding music to the MusicIP database through the MusicIP Mixer, while at the same time listening to music autoqueued by Sugarcube. Since playcount and last played time are written back to the DB, this could cause conflicts, depending on how it deals with file locks. bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Does the MusicIP headless service use the same library as the MusicIP application ? If they use different libraries and it's only the one used by MusicIP application that is updated, that could explain the issue. I have a vague memory that I've seen someone that had some issue where the GUI application didn't use the same library as the headless version which were used by SBS. What I would do before trying archive analysis is to: 1. Setup MusicIP plugin in SBS according to bakker_be previous post 2. Restart SBS and make sure MusicIP headless is running before SBS is started 3. Perform a full rescan in SBS 4. Try the M icon and the MusicIP Mixer link to see if it returns the expected result If point 4 doesn't return expected result it means that the issue might still be with the MusicIP library. If point 4 returns the expected result I would be very surprised if archive analysis makes any difference. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Ok, I'm going to try your suggestions and will report back my results. Thank you guys both very much for trying to help me figure this mess out. Very much appreciated! :) Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
erland wrote: Does the MusicIP headless service use the same library as the MusicIP application ? If they use different libraries and it's only the one used by MusicIP application that is updated, that could explain the issue. I have a vague memory that I've seen someone that had some issue where the GUI application didn't use the same library as the headless version which were used by SBS. What I would do before trying archive analysis is to: 1. Setup MusicIP plugin in SBS according to bakker_be previous post 2. Restart SBS and make sure MusicIP headless is running before SBS is started 3. Perform a full rescan in SBS 4. Try the M icon and the MusicIP Mixer link to see if it returns the expected result If point 4 doesn't return expected result it means that the issue might still be with the MusicIP library. If point 4 returns the expected result I would be very surprised if archive analysis makes any difference. The reason I advise to archive is mainly for speed in the case of needing to rescan. For morbeas' collection that's not yet an issue, but I can assure you it makes a huge difference on mine (67K tracks). I think that he'll be set with a rebuild of his DB, provided that in the future he's careful in adding music. My workflow is rather elaborate, but it works for me: 1a. Buying physical, digital or bootleg torrents for my live music needs 1b. Ripping to FLAC in Mediamonkey 2. MusicBrainz tagging in Mediamonkey 3. ReplayGain scanning tagging in Foobar2000 4. DynamicRange scanning in Foobar 2000 These steps are all performed outside of the library folder. 5. Moving to library folder with Mediamonkey 6. Shutdown of all music services 7. Add music to MusicIP Mixer, analyse archive analysis 8. Restart MusicIP headless and reload cache 9. Restart LMS and scan for new and changed bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: How can I ensure this is the case erland? If you change anything in MusicIP Mixer, it will save the library cache on exit. On the MusicIP headless web page you will see that the cache has changed, and there's a button to reload it. If you don't see that the cache has changed it's probably using a different one. You'll not like what I'm going to say, but CParker has a wonderful tool for correctly configuring the whole shebang :) It's called Spyglass bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Ok, when I make a change in MIP GUI, I do indeed see the Reload Cache button in Headless server so they're indeed using the same db. As for Spyglass, I actually have it but never really used it. Can you be so kind as to give me a rundown on the proper steps to use it please? Thanks very much. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
It's pretty self-explanatory: you start it up and walk through it from top to bottom. It will allow you to check the state of all components in the chain, and indicate whether there are any problems. If there's a problem you have the possibility to uninstall and reinstall the problematic component. bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
bakker_be wrote: CParker has a wonderful tool for correctly configuring the whole shebang :) It's called Spyglass Spyglass doesn't work for LMS it only works for SqueezeboxServer the other parts of Spyglass do work normal. HB64's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14945 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
HB64 wrote: Spyglass doesn't work for LMS it only works for SqueezeboxServer the other parts of Spyglass do work normal. Good to know. I haven't needed it in ages (way before LMS in any case), since I've got everything running quite stable. That's about to change though: I'm planning to migrate my whole setup to Windows Server 2012 RC in a couple of weeks, as well as adding several TB of storage :) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Wirrunna wrote: I suspect that your weighting functions combined with a relatively small library is the cause. The SugarCube Live View will show the tracks returned by MIP and the reason they were rejected, have a look at it. Also try setting Artist Repeating for X tracks to 2 , and Album Repeating to 2 tracks and start again with Anthrax. I find it extremely hard to believe that out of the 3000+ mixable metal tracks, it rejects them all and plays Beastie Boys, Aretha Franklin and Billy Joel instead. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: I find it extremely hard to believe that out of the 3000+ mixable metal tracks, it rejects them all and plays Beastie Boys, Aretha Franklin and Billy Joel instead. We will never know why until you show us the SugarCube Live View. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Ok, here are some Live View shots: First (seed) song is Becoming by Pantera, which, if you're a metal fan you'll know that it's a very heavy thrash metal song. So here's a play by play of the few songs picked by SC right after it: +---+ |Filename: SC3.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13485| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
So within 3 songs, we went from Pantera to Audioslave, which is barely hard rock. What am I supposed to be looking at in the Live View window exactly? In the first screenshot, all the recommended songs by MIP seem to be OK but for some reason Sugarcube goes in a totally different direction. To be perfectly honest, even picking MX by Deftones right after Becoming is not acceptable, but at least it's in the same genre. Unfortunately though, it all goes downhill from there. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
erland wrote: Have you tried if the standard M icon in the web interface and the MusicIP Mix link found behind it generate good mixes or if the problem is also shown there ? I'm just asking because if you see the same issue there, it might be related to MusicIP application and not SugarCube. Standard M icon? Can you please elaborate on that? Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Also, my Smartgain setting doesn't seem to effect the volume properly. Some songs are still louder/quieter than others. And yes, all my songs have both album gain and track gain values. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: Standard M icon? Can you please elaborate on that? If you browse into My Music/Artists in the SBS/LMS web interface you should see a M icon to the right of the artist name. Click on that and on next page you should see a MusicIP Mix icon that creates a mix of music similar to the artist using MusicIP. This is more or less the same thing as SugarCube does continuously, so it would be interested to see if these mixes also return strange results or if the strangeness is only limited to how SugarCube uses MusicIP. The same M icons are also available beside albums and tracks, it's worth to try it on all levels. To see the MusicIP Mix icon it's important to enable the MusicIP plugin, there is Use MusicIP option in it which you should set to either Only read mixable status (preferred) or Import all data (not preferred unless you are already using that setting). I think it's also important that MusicIP is started before SBS/LMS is started for the MusicIP Mix link to appear and if you have had it disabled previously you might have to perform a rescan in SBS/LMS for it to appear. The main reason for testing the MusicIP Mix link is to be able to see if the problem might be related to MusicIP or if it's isolated to how SugarCube uses MusicIP, this will make it easier to troubleshoot the issue further. As a side note, have you tried to create a mix directly in the MusicIP application to make sure that works better than SugarCube ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Just to add some counterweight here: I've been using Sugarcube for a very long time now (I don't remember even with which version I started) and it's been working perfectly ever since. In my current installation it's queued up 18609 tracks, of which only 3.245% were randomly chosen. Needless to say, I'm a lifetime subscriber :) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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What are you running it on, bakker_be? Windows or your NAS or ... ? Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Like bakker_be I have been using Sugarcube for a while and it works well - Win XP, 7.7.2 - r33893 Morbeas, if your mixes are always ending up with Aretha, try these settings, start with Server Settings/Spicefly SugarCube/ and set the MusicIP Request No. of Tracks to 10. Then Settings/Player/Spicefly SugarCube +---+ |Filename: SC settings 2.JPG| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13472| +---+ Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: As for the troubleshooting link: 1 - I went to http://localhost:10002/api/mix? to check the MusicIP installation and it checked out. It spat out the 55 songs I have specified in the settings. 2 - I checked Sugarcube history and it shows 0 songs like the above poster. Though that is probably due to the fact that I uninstalled and reinstalled LMS in my frustration to get Sugarcube working. That, of course, did not help. I have since played several songs and they still did not reflect in Sugarcube history. But it definitely works as it picks the songs as it gets to the last song of any playlist. So it definitely functions. 3 - I never had any MIP filters on so that step does not apply. 4 - I turned off TrackStat and the result is the same. 5 - I'm meticulous about my music collection so my tags are perfect. Should I record a log maybe and post it here? Update: It seems to work for a few songs if I change server settings but then it goes right back to picking its favorite songs all over again. Have you tried if the standard M icon in the web interface and the MusicIP Mix link found behind it generate good mixes or if the problem is also shown there ? I'm just asking because if you see the same issue there, it might be related to MusicIP application and not SugarCube. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Have MIP headless server scanned the library too ( not only the MIP gui ) ? you are supposed to point to the path where the music is (same path as LMS uses ) and use the refresh button . You do that here http://server-ip:10002/server If MIP Gui and MIP server runs on the same machine it is then possible to transfer mip gui's result to the MIP server I have not used that so I can't say how that is done ,but I saw it described somewhere in Cparkers sugarcube documentation or our wiki Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Here are some screenshots. Notice how it went from Anthrax to Beastie Boys in 2 songs. I'm also posting my settings for this particular player: +---+ |Filename: SC4.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13476| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Here are two more screenshots of MIP GUI and headless (they're running on the same Win 7 x64 PC): +---+ |Filename: MIP2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13478| +---+ Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: Here are some screenshots. Notice how it went from Anthrax to Beastie Boys in 2 songs. I'm also posting my settings for this particular player: I suspect that your weighting functions combined with a relatively small library is the cause. The SugarCube Live View will show the tracks returned by MIP and the reason they were rejected, have a look at it. Also try setting Artist Repeating for X tracks to 2 , and Album Repeating to 2 tracks and start again with Anthrax. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Morbeas wrote: Errr, what? My installation is on a Win 7 x64 PC. I've never even owned a QNAP NAS. Are you confusing me with someone else? Probably, so many aliases ! :s Think the QNAP issue is bottomed out. Under heavy stress the CPU does not have enough spare to run the SQLite db calls. The default SQLite calls have a timeout of 30secs so its pretty strange that they are not able to complete in that time, but I guess if its under heavy load maybe it doesnt. I'll being adding a setting to increase the timeout up to 2mins and see if that helps. Morbeas if you setup is not working please create a new thread on the spicefly support forums, I'll pick it up and see what can be done. Cheers cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
No sir, I'm not going to re-write everything I've posted here just so you don't have to go back a page and see what I've been complaining about. I have done everything you have asked me to and it just does not work. I'm the guy with the Aretha Franklin issue. I am a lifetime subscriber and you need to resolve my issue or refund my money. Morbeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x
Hope you feel better for it... Morbeas' issue has been taken offline, the installation is based on a QNAP NAS so should be an interesting challenge to fix... Thanks for reading have a good weekend :) cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73988 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
