does the contact from at http://www.ctmdev.com/support/contact/
contact_form.html just send a message back to me?
Mikael
Winston Weinmann suggested:
That is a great idea, and one CTM should have both on its site and in a
Read Me with the installer.
In a Readme? What other products put their buglists there? Isn't an URL
to some kind of online source sufficient?
After all buglists are not primarily around to warn
Winston Weinmann suggested:
That is a great idea, and one CTM should have both on its site and in a
Read Me with the installer.
In a Readme? What other products put their buglists there? Isn't an URL
sufficient?
Mikael
Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 Mhz | 1GB RAM
Irene told:
If I open PM again and use the same script and then quit - PM crashes.
After that it is hit or miss whether PM will crash at quit after using
any script.
If I quit PM when I have not used a script, it does not crash.
irene,
Do you sync to the Apple addrees book? If so, how is the
Winston Weinmann asked
please support CTM by patiently ask for requests
Have I been impatient? How do you define patience?
Patience should be adopted to the company in question. CTM could be
snappier in the their development and sometimes bugfixing, but I'd
rather they keep PM stable and
Wayne Brissette said it like this:
That's where CTM gets to decide what they feel the community needs and where
they want to spend their efforts.
If you had paid any attention at all, which is obvious you haven't, you
would have discovered that I've been repeating that CTM decides over
and over
Matthias Schmidt suggested:
Understand Powermail is a textmailer, so if you want to have html use
something else.
Matthias, why do you have to bring up that old nonsense again? Powermail
displays HTML messages and it's natural to expect that it should print
such messages fine, even if third
Dan MacMillan said:
The message database is currently at 2gb, and before I managed to compress
it, a problem developed. After a reboot, PowerMail attempted to rebuild
the sort indicies, but this failed after about 12 minutes with the
following , A database error occurred ; Class=DB ; what=100;
Georges Piriou suggested:
In PreferenzeGenerale, under Applicazione di posta di default, select
Powermail (if Powermail is already installed).
And this will work with the Filemaker function giovanni wants to sue? I
thought he said that the Send Mail function won't work if Mail
isn't set as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] told
Thank you! I was using the older version of iPhoto Mailer Patcher. I
downloaded 4.1, and it works perfectly with the newest version (7.1) of
iPhoto, even though the documentation doesn't mention it.
WHy not give the developer a heads up as he seems to not being aware of
Giovanni Andreani said:
Hello, is there anyone out there that can eventually work out a solution
for this problem? I'm using FileMaker's Send Mail function but it won't
work if Mail isn't set as the default reader. How can I get PowerMail to
interact with this script step?
Can you please post
Jim Pistrang suggested:
I also bought eMailer when Guy told us to. I encountered lots of
problems converting to PowerMail until I discovered Emailchemy, that is
definitely the way to go.
Not so for people needing to conserve umlauts in places like the email
address, like swedish or german. At
Carl Darby said it like this:
Nope, not new here!! But have written to technical support at PM on
several occasions but no answers have been received. Only time I
received a reply was when I said something which rattled their cages at
HQ. Never mind...:)
I know that feeling. I've just come to
Carl Darby said it like this:
Pay for support??? There are plenty of Email clients out there whcih
work far better than PM and their developers seem far quicker to respond
to any problems which might be raised. No doubt I shall raise a few
eyebrows at PM but that's why I and many others paid
Winston Weinmann sa såhär:
My suggestion to CTM is to confess that they are unable or unwilling to
spend the time on individual support requests, and to strongly encourage
those with problems to address them to the PowerMail discussion mailing
list, as this is the only place they are likely to
Bruce Barrett said it like this:
In a forum you can select the topics of interest to you
so you can avoid 100s of messages that are not of interest
with next to zero effort.
Setting up a mail filter in PowerMail takes less time than using a web
forum in my experience. Only drawback I see is that
Winston Weinmann said it like this:
I do in fact use PM to easily trash most of the mailing lists posts, and
yes, it is relatively easy to do. But I'd prefer not to have to do it at
all. You don't mind doing that. Because we have different working styles
does not mean that some people would not
I need a PowerMail volume adjustment setting solution, please. If you
sit in a semi-public environment like a work place and the sound goes to
an amplifier in the purpose of hearing music it's very annyoing to hear
the newmail sound and other sounds from PowerMail.
Anyone know of an application
PowerMail Engineering suggested:
If you want to keep Safari 3.0, you can disable the HTML reader in
PowerMail's preferences.
Shouldn't it be feasible to hack-reinstall webkit under 10.4.10? What do
you guys think?
Mikael
Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB
Moritz Majce said it like this:
I have got a really annoying problem with power mail (v. 5.5.3):
whenever I open the new message window the email address input field
is displaced to the left so that I cannot see the email address when
typing. when I close the window and (re)open a new one the
Moritz Majce said it like this:
i put a screenshot on http://www.monokultur.com/pm/problem.jpg
Well, we see the name field being somewhat displaced, yes. Could you
please restart PM under english and see if the problem remains? You do
this by quitting PM and show info on the PM app icon and
Chris sa såhär:
Now if Michael Tsai could come up with a version for installation on
mail servers, I'm guessing he could retire on the proceeds :-)
Actually I wish for that. In the age of mobile networking, bandwidth
needs to be conserved more than ever.
Mikael
Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish |
Rene Merz sa såhär:
Seems that this little bug occurs only in the german version of PM.
But mine is active in english as well. H.
Mikael
Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD
Rene Merz said:
If the sending and receiving date are the same (as it is usualy the case)
then (and only then!) it writes same date _and_ same time for sending and
receiving.
So what we want under these circumstances are that the different time
stamps for sent and received are reflected in the
Rene Merz suggested:
Maybe you can get-it in a tricky way, Giovanni:
Try to create a new SMTP-account with a possible but not existing address
of a fictional mail-host.
Conditions
If number of recipients To or CC 1
Receive mode is not BCC
Actions
Display Alert No BCC
This is what this shows (Swedish Translation):
Vidareskickat brev
Ämne: Re: Data bug in forward messages
Skickat: måndag 28 maj 2007 12.31
Från: Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try a test. After reading this message, click the Forward button. You
should notice
Rene Merz suggested:
The header, integrated in the text body, of messages which are ready for
forwarding has a little bug:
The sending and receiving datas shows allways the same day and the same
time - which cannot be.
This is not the case in my setup. At least not if you what you meant was
Derry Thompson sa såhär:
Does Powermail work with return receipts? If so, how can I turn them off?
PM doesn't send return receipts automatically. You have to set up an
applescript, which in your case unless I misunderstand you, means you
don't have to do anything.
Mikael
Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3
Lane, I agree with you on the all of the issues including that there are
several items I too
prefer to see addressed before IMAP or HTML improvements. But both IMAP
and HTML are most likely having to be better supported some time in the
future.
There are other bugs and improvements I'd like to
Lane Roathe suggested:
If PM ever goes to the dark side and becomes HTML compliant, I'll
switch to another program -
As nothing most likely would stop you, under the described scenario,
from sending plain text messages and keep labeling incoming HTML-
messages as spam, that is a quite a childish
Curtis suggested:
Webmail has made serious inroads into the popularity of IMAP. Webmail
offers portability of email across machines, and with adequate
functionality to please the majority of users interested in such
portability.
According to what reputable authority?
Mikael
Tech facts:
PM
Michael Lewis exploded:
Geez, louise, you're rude. Can you tone it down a bit, please? It's
really getting tiresome when you jump all over a person's case for
stating a personal preference as if it is some personal attack on you or
something. I didn't see anything in Lane's post that said you
Mikael Byström suggested:
to accept that we are a smaller, most likely more vocal, strata of the
user base.
And go from there, I might add.
Mikael
Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD
Rick Lecoat said:
Well, if you want 100 percent accuracy then you have to poll every
single user of Powermail on every single question that comes up for
discussion. That is clearly near-impossible, and certainly ludicrously
impractical. If even a single PM user's opinions are omitted from the
Rick Lecoat suggested:
Which means that we are talking about statistical approximations here,
just as most marketing decisions are, and, that being the case, I repeat
my notion that this list can serve as a practical cross section of the
user base. Is it completely accurate? Of course not. But I
Rick Lecoat said:
That's your answer?
Oh, Mikael.
Or should I call you 'Mr Spock'?
; -)
What else could I say?
That CTM could, do and probably should lend an ear to this list is
obvious. For us on this list to assume it's a practical cross-section
of the user base is something else entirely.
Tim Lapin (sympatico) said this:
It is true that a web based forum will never be as fast or as clean in
the interface as a text based mailing list but...
Forums are only as slow as the load originating from them and the speed
of the receiving computer.
Yes, but as one reason for me why I am
Wayne Brissette said:
And as an old timer myself. I'm just as tired of people trying to make
PM an HTML email client.
It's not about that at all, it's really about giving PowerMail the
ability to cope with the fact that it's not uncommon that people ( Some
of these being folks that you have to
Rick Lecoat said it something like this:
Moving the script filter to the top of the filter list won't work,
because any other filters in the list that are set to move attachments
to specific folders -- even if they are WAAAY down the filter list --
will cause it to fail. I don't know whether
Urs Gruetzner sa såhär:
Powermail crashed and then I had a kernel panic.
After reboot PM announces a corrupted database.
I restarted with modifier key to rebuild the database. PM begins the
process but shortly PM crashes again and again.
What else can I do to get back my database?
Remove the
Michael Lewis said it like this:
Again, I never said that. If you can go back through my messages and
show specifically where I said the issue was not real instead of
speaking to my own experience and how I worked around that, then feel
free to do so. I don't think you can.
I didn't specifically
Rick Lecoat said:
However, in the absence of
direct input from every single PM user out there, can we not, for the
purposes of discussion and friendly debate, assume that this list
represents something approaching a representative cross section of the
user base and proceed on that basis?
No we
Wayne Brissette said:
improving or fixing other issues rather than HTML email.
But the issue is *printing* HTML-messages, nothing else. And since when
is it useful to discuss what CTM should use time for or not? We can
discuss the merits of any approach, but its CTM's call what to
prioritize,
Winston Weinmann said:
If PowerMail sent all HTML email to a web browser for reading I could
live with that. But if it can display HTML email, and print it, it
should do so in the same way as every other Mac program. What it does
now is neither standard nor intuitive.
This is stating the
Marlyse Comte said:
maybe I am getting old or maybe I am getting just tired of the old same
old same why is this not an html email application... because it's not
and never has been and I just feel if that is what people want to begin
with, well why do they even get powermail in the first place
Richard Hart said:
I solved my problem using egg cloning.
I have a Bad PowerMail Files folder.
(PowerMail can not open it.)
I have a Good PowerMail Files folder.
(PowerMail CAN open it.)
(1) Duplicate the Good folder.
(2) Copy Message Database from the
Bad folder to the Good folder,
Richard Hart said:
I'm talking about the
relatively recent random-text/random-name scourge, also known as
Bayesian poisoning. Nonsense sentences and randomly generated names are
driving me crazy.
Recent? Been getting those for a year at least. Is it a new strain
you're talking about?
Please
Charles Watts-Jones sa såhär:
I've just installed the same set. At present I have to use drag and
drop or services (GPG tools) as I'm missing a means of integrating GPG
with PM. I haven't found any PM scripts in the 'archive' but have found
some Mailsmith scripts. Perhaps they can be adapted
Dave N sa såhär:
Today I1m getting really annoyed at seeing 1 instead of apostrophes.
CTM, PLEASE fix this for us!
You do love us more than Microsoft does, ... don1t you?
I wrote a script trying to solve this problem, which stumbled on the
fact that the message source is read only. If it was
Matthias Schmidt said it like this:
PM is a text-oriented mail-client, that's why a lot of people use it.
Guess what? What HTML presents to the user is text to be read. If PM
renders and displays HTML it should print as well. Whatever the problem
is with the technology behind it should be
Wayne Brissette said it like:
That's because the preference to change your email isn't where one would
expect. To change it system wide, it's in??? Yep, Apple's Mail
program.
This ought to be against Apple's own Human Interface Guidelines if it's
not already. It's just stpuid microsoftism,
computer artwork by subhash sa såhär:
I do not understand you people having problems with this limitation.
What is so important to keep 2 GB of it?
Time. To sort out what you need to keep takes time. To delete it takes
time. then when you need an old email address or message, to find it
also
John R. Hopper sa såhär:
Have others seen this in powermail?
No. Even the source seems to be with the correct settings.
Or is there something special about my computer?
Or your mail servers I guess. I assume what PM does display isn't the
same as the source, so that's a starting point. Use the
Wayne Brissette sa såhär:
cron and AppleScript
And using Cron is made more simple with Cronnix:
http://h5197.serverkompetenz.net:9080/abstracture_public/projects-en/
cronnix/
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
Subject: PM 5.2.2 downloading old messages
From: Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:12:52 -0700
My PM 5 has always been set to delete emails from the server 5 days after
downloading. The Retrieve messages left on server again box is unchecked.
I downloaded and installed
Mark S. P. Smith sa såhär:
Silly question. Where is the Anti Aliasing option?
System preferences - Personal Appearance
at the bottom of the panel.
I think the latter is the proper english name, but you'll find it either way.
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM |
I'm getting several messages on at least 2 accounts since some time that
appear to be the exact same content, but yet they have different ESMTP
ID's, message-ID's and Received Date differs with one second only. I
don't see how this could be a PowerMail problem.
Anyone have a theory on what could
Rick Lecoat said it like this:
this issue means
that I am losing email -- something that an email application should
never permit.
Exactly.
There's just no debate, that email losing bugs should put on the fix
list, pronto. No lost messages must be the norm, not a few.
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X
Lane Roathe said it like this:
Seems like it might be a good idea to limit the # of emails you can
reply to in one command to like 5 or 10. (Really, does anyone reply to
50 emails at once?)
I get the are you sure response if I try to open more than 10
messages. Perhaps this should also be made
C. A. Niemiec said:
Hmmm... I don't know. I kinda like responses at the bottom.
Did I suggest responses can't go at the bottom?
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
marco osti said it like this:
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Question: Why is this quote so meaningless?
Answer: Because it assumes all
Ken Pope said it like this:
However, it does not seem suited to re-sending messages
that I have previously sent.
That works for me.
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
Ken Pope sa såhär:
However, it does not seem suited to re-sending messages
that I have previously sent.
I tried using redirect to re-send, but often -- even though I change the
name of the recipient, and the new recipient's name (and only the new
recipient's name) appears in the TO: line before
CTM info said:
One good way to reconsolidate databases is to export each of them in
PowerMail Exchange format (one single export for all folders) and then
drag all the files from the finder to the folder list in the
consolidating database.
Why isn't there a good way to synchronize 2 databases?
Jim Pistrang sa såhär:
Hi Mikael,
Why can't the PM addressbook show the letter é?
My PM addressbook displays an é correctly
PB 5.5 on OSX 10.4.8 PowerPC G4
I haven't got around to try 5.5 yet. I'll check and see if it displays there.
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB
Michael Lewis said it like this:
For others, do you really
access email older than one year (or within the current fiscal year)
more than once a month?
As things often recur once a year, I need at least two years of messages
online. I need to check back often of what was said last year and
Steve Abrahamson said:
And if I decide I don't like this path, how do I re-consolidate several
databases?
By hand.
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
And no further swedish translations in need? Please use this pmdisc-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] address for messages until further notice.
Why can't the PM addressbook show the letter é?
A-NO-NE Music sa såhär:
I am facing the exact same problem with Finale files I send to my
students, which had been no problem until PM5.5.
Sent how? Did you drop these and used what compression encoding combo
before? What you use now?
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB
Rick Lecoat said it like this:
Do you mean that text that is copied out
of PM and pasted into (for example) OmniOutliner should take its
formatting from the paragraph that it is pasted into?
Yes! But from copied text from any app of course.
If so, then what this needs is a quick way of stripping
Alan Harper said it like this:
Exactly!
Tom Dillon said at Fri, Oct 13, 2006 7:22 AM -0700:
It only happens to me when the the address is hilited, but not in edit
mode. Like when you click on the @ icon or don't wait for the address
to switch from hilite to editable.
What do you know. When I
PowerMail Engineering sa såhär:
In OmniOutliner, paste with current style (option-shift-command-V). In
Word, paste special. In some other apps, option-command-V does the job...
Thanks! Now, how did I miss that in OmniOutliner
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM |
Howard suggested earlier:
On 10 October Alan Harper wrote:
Open PowerMail's address book, open a contact in the address
book, click on an email address for that contact and Copy. A
message pops up: An error occurred: Error -4989.
Charles Watts-Jones Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:54:52 +0200
Can't
PowerMail Engineering said:
text is
copied with PowerMail's formatting: the fonts you defined in the
preferences, and the color of URLs and quoted text.
Anyone know how to get pasted text in any app or specifically in Ragtime
6, OmniOutliner 3 and Word to adjust font, size and color to the
Michael Lewis said this on the 1st of Sept. :
Even if it validates, I would disable the font and see if the problem
persists in Powermail. If it does, then it isn't that font or is
something else entirely.
Well, thing is I discovered that the font in question certainly was
disabled, as it had
PowerMail Engineering said:
zip tool that is part of Mac OS X (ditto
command line), which is supposed to be Windows compatible.
Hmmm, I guess this with windows compatibility warrants closer investigation.
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
Richard Hart said:
To all who have experienced recipients unable to open emailed zip files:
Are you absolutely sure you did not send that zip file using
Encoding: Binhex (Macintosh)
at the bottom of the new message window?
Yes.
It is the default. And it will stymie Windows recipients
Justin Beek said:
Please explain.
(We have a site license for ZipIt but I stopped using it.)
Well, I've zipped files directly in the Finder and sent to people using
Windows. Several were unable to open the files in question, leading to
several resends. After I started sending files zipped with
Matthias Schmidt said:
But I'd also prefer zip as this is also useful while sending to Windoze
userser ;-)
The builtin zip function in Mac OS X is NOT fully Windows-compatible
though. At least not in my experience. Why this is so I have no idea. I
got ZipIt http://www.maczipit.com/ instead. a
PowerMail Engineering sa såhär:
Converting the projects from CodeWarrior to XCode, and making the code
intel compatible was not trivial either.
That's really a 2-step process, isn't it?
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
A-NO-NE Music sa såhär:
How do you set encoding of the outgoing message?
I need to use UTF-8 characters. Mail Encoding is grayed out. I set
default to UTF-8 in the PM Pref, but it was sent as ISO-8859-1 instead.
Actually, the pref window sez (Whenever possible, PM will use US-ASCII).
How do
Thanks Matthias.
Marco Piovanelli sa såhär:
The current version of WASTE (3.0) has abandoned WorldScript
in favor of Unicode.
So could this be a WASTE problem? Is there any other WASTE 2 apps I
could test with?
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
Thanks for your response, Matthias.
you said:
I will do that with the crash log.
send him also the message in question.
That was implied.
PM still works with scripts, which do depend on fonts. This might
explain your problem.
Could you elaborate here? Are you saying PowerMails text engine works
Matthias Schmidt said:
I have the impression you have a serious problem with your mail-server
or your mail-setup and not with PM itself. Maybe even a problem with
your Mac?
Because? Did you miss Mail displays this message without any problems?
I think I have to move my subscription address.
Matthias Schmidt said:
the message did appear already some time ago.
Jérôme was asking you to send him that message to jerome at ctmdev dot com.
I will do that with the crash log. I never received the message though.
Because? Did you miss Mail displays this message without any problems?
Sorry,
For some reason this earlier message didn't appear onlist for me, nor do
I have any testers inquiring. I'm hoping the message disappeared, so I
resend it here:
I managed to isolate one specific message and discovered that this
message CAN BE RENDERED in Mail! So there's no system level problem!
I managed to isolate one specific message and discovered that this
message CAN BE RENDERED in Mail! So there's no system level problem!
It's PowerMail! Also, there's NO SPAMSIEVE involved! It's the rendering.
I also tried importing this message into a new fresh otherwise empty
database under a
I managed to isolate one specific message and discovered that this
message CAN BE RENDERED in Mail! So there's no system level problem!
It's PowerMail! Also, there's NO SPAMSIEVE involved! It's the rendering.
I also tried importing this message into a new fresh otherwise empty
database under a
Marlyse Comte said:
No, I'm still a geek and usually keep my machine up to date, which now
is already at 10.4.7 :-)
So have you tried spotlight searches. I'm not sure how spotlight
indexes, but maybe worth a try.
Who of you other guys onlist are using spotlight for searching the
PowerMail DB?
Matthias Schmidt said:
What I would do in your place:
- check my hardware (hard-disk AND RAM)
(I just set up the PB from my wife newly - the hd had some nice non
recoverable errors. you couldn't notice these errors as long as you were
not running disk utilities. I had to format the thing and
]?
Mikael Byström said earlier:
Since june this year I've been in a recurring battle with the gremlins
of email that for some reason, which seem to involve rendering of asian
fonts, appeared in many many spam messages in one of my email accounts.
I'm assuming the messages are asian language spam
Since june this year I've been in a recurring battle with the gremlins
of email that for some reason, which seem to involve rendering of asian
fonts, appeared in many many spam messages in one of my email accounts.
I'm assuming the messages are asian language spam. I've no way of
telling for
Marlyse Comte said like this:
you are absolutely right - this DOES work. Now I only end up with
results which include the full expression. I was not aware of this
search option (shows how often I use search in my mail, like 2x a year).
It only *seems to* work... ie, it works in this
Marlyse Comte said it like this:
I have another feature
request: that the search window would treat 23.95 as exactly that and
not 23-AND-95 - because when I search for a specific bill it comes up
with way too many results just because it does not see the period as
part of it all.
Hear 'ye hear
C. A. Niemiec said:
Thing here is that I really think you make a mistake by thinking that
the cursor is the key to convenient line by line navigation. I think it
would make more sense to add a qualifier key, like shift, to make the
arrow keys to casue movement in this fashion instead.
If not,
Douglas Carnall said:
What's so great about a proprietary mail program that trashes your
messages, then charges you get them back?
That it gets the messages back?
Any way, it's not CTM that charges for Powermail Salvage. It's a third
party developer.
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook
Raynald Prévèreau said:
There is no export option in Eudora 6.2.3
There's no proper export option in Claris Emailer 2 eitherSurely,
there must be some scripts that could solve this problem? Eudora is
scriptable, no?
PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
computer artwork by subhash said:
Funny, that this issue is treated now as if it is a curious seldom
appearing one!
It is indeed rare. I don't have this problem for one and am not using a
US system.
As I told it was discussed before, many users had the
same problems as we two have still and
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