Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Chet Gardiner
The real reason is that programming is an art, not a science... Can't certify art... Dave Crozier wrote: Hal wrote: ...A thorough understanding of algorithmic principles, database, some math, regression, ETHICS, etc. is what should qualify someone to be a computer professional TOTALLY WRONG

Re: [OT] Virgin birth again.....

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Madigan
Laugh it up baby! Your clock is ticking. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps the birth of a female chimpanzee prophet? On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/01/17/pregnant.chimp.ap/index.html or

[NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier

2007-01-18 Thread Dave Crozier
You can al try Ubuntu now even if you don't have a distribution PC. The latest Ubuntu Project Install.exe allows you to install Ubuntu on the fly assuming you have a broadband link with minimal intervention. http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/17/ubuntu-installation-now-easier-than-

RE: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier

2007-01-18 Thread Tristan Leask
Have they finally got it working for Wifi connections using WPA? That was my main gripe about the last couple of versions. Wifi WPA didn't work out of the box for me. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Posted At: 18

RE: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread Allen
Thanks Rick For some reason my mails are not getting out very quick. So much for 1and1.co.uk service. Anyway, I have already mentioned the resolve for MSXML so I'm quite happy with it now. I will add the sedna2 later as I'm not really bothered by Vista's goodies yet. And I think most people are

Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Mark Stanton
computer professionals. Or imagine the converse: that doctors made their recommendations not on the best interests of the patient, but on what would generate the most revenue for the doctor himself ?? You don't think this is happening already? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind...

RE: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier

2007-01-18 Thread Dave Crozier
Tristan, Worked out of the box with my Gateway PC with no problems in V6 but I had to load the network drivers. Version 7 is due out shortly so that may solve your problem. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent:

Re: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread Paul Hill
Hi Allen, We use 1and1 too. They seem to be having problems over the past few days. There are huge delays on all incomming email. On 1/18/07, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Rick For some reason my mails are not getting out very quick. So much for 1and1.co.uk service. -- Paul

Re: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 18, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Paul Hill wrote: We use 1and1 too. They seem to be having problems over the past few days. There are huge delays on all incomming email. FWIW, I get a *ton* of spam from 1and1, as well as a lot of bot requests for accounts on OpenTech. Doesn't surprise

RE: Index on collector tag collector unique

2007-01-18 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan wrote: Yep, you're right, I should have a collector database. This was a band-aid added quick and dirty. Turned out to be too dirty. Why not create it via a select distinct into a table and then just normalize your data? Probably a lot of work after you hit all your input

RE: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread Allen
Hello Paul Its not the first time either. I have a lot of problems with them using mail, FrontPage to do the site and often clients say they cannot reach the web site/s. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hill Hi Allen, We use

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Alan Lukachko
When did the US get rid of free speech and dissenting opinion in a free and democratic society? Is this the continuation of McCarthyism, Gitmo and another tactic on the war in terrorism? Or did I miss something? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Alan Lukachko wrote: When did the US get rid of free speech and dissenting opinion in a free and democratic society? When we put the neo-conservatives in power. This made free speech, as well as the rest of our Bill of Rights, into something to be

RE: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries

2007-01-18 Thread Alan Lukachko
Customers still do stick with you if you do good work and provide good service for them. Tomorrow, I'm going to a client that I first did work for in July, 1982. His business keeps growing and he keeps calling me back. First I developed an app with GW-BASIC, then FoxBase, then Visual FoxPro 3, 5

Re: Determining the type of active index

2007-01-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
Malcolm Greene wrote: There's also the new(?) binary indexes in VFP 9 that are even smaller/faster in some scenarios. Besides an index on DELETED( ), why would you use a binary index? An example please? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC

Re: Easy way to count total lines of code in complete project?

2007-01-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ted Roche wrote: On 1/16/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to determine the total number of lines of code in an app/project? http://www.tedroche.com/Present/2000/ProjScan.zip Pretty self-documenting, the associated paper can be found at:

Re: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
Malcolm Greene wrote: Cipher50 is simple encryption that's easy to break. Craig's encryption FLL supports major industry encryption standards (AES, Blowfish, RC4) in stream and block formats with support for various levels of encryption (128 bit +). There are easy to use functions for

Re: Determining the type of active index

2007-01-18 Thread Malcolm Greene
Micheal, Besides an index on DELETED( ), why would you use a binary index? An example please? Disclosure: I haven't personally used binary indexes. Possible uses: - male vs. female (I recognize this is no longer a binary conditiong) - test vs. production - active vs. non-active I think

Re: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread Malcolm Greene
Michael, Don't forget the 'marketing' pitch you can make regarding FAB's new INDUSTRY STANDARD encryption! Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

[NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name

2007-01-18 Thread Dave Crozier
Mmmm, Just found out the name of the company who will be making the IPhone. http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jan2007/gb20070110_531125.htm? chan=tc or http://tinyurl.com/359su5 Quote: ...Hon Hai will assemble Apple's new wireless handset called the iPhone, a product launch that

Re: Determining the type of active index

2007-01-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
Malcolm Greene wrote: Micheal, Besides an index on DELETED( ), why would you use a binary index? An example please? Disclosure: I haven't personally used binary indexes. Possible uses: - male vs. female (I recognize this is no longer a binary conditiong) - test vs.

Re: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
Malcolm Greene wrote: Michael, Don't forget the 'marketing' pitch you can make regarding FAB's new INDUSTRY STANDARD encryption! Note to self: mention Malcolm in the credits. g -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com

RE: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name

2007-01-18 Thread Tristan Leask
They make motherboards as well. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Posted At: 18 January 2007 14:30 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name Subject: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers

Re: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier

2007-01-18 Thread Vince Teachout
Dave Crozier wrote: Tristan, Worked out of the box with my Gateway PC with no problems in V6 but I had to load the network drivers. I tried the latest version (as of 2 weeks ago), and it STILL won't mount my hard drives. It's weird. I only have this problem with Ubuntu, nothing else. I

Re: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread Malcolm Greene
Note to self: mention Malcolm in the credits. To hell with the credits, I'll be checking my mailbox for a royalty check ... gLMAO!g Seriously, a big thank you to Ed and this list would certainly be appropriate. Mal ___ Post Messages to:

Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/18/07, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TOTALLY WRONG Hal I'm afraid. The thing that qualifies someone to be a computer professional in its true sense (where software is concerned anyhow) is the ability to write GOOD software, That's certainly one opinion. I think there are likely

Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/18/07, Chet Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real reason is that programming is an art, not a science... Can't certify art... Practitioners might argue that good practice of many professions qualify as art: medicine, law, plumbing, carpentry... basic proficiency and perhaps basic

Re: Easy way to count total lines of code in complete project?

2007-01-18 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/18/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Ted. But what are all of those strange question-mark-in-the-diamond boxes? A character that didn't translate well perhaps? It's a bad Word-export-to-HTML, I suspect. View Source might tell you. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche

Re: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 18, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: Maybe there is a connection with VFP somewhere or maybe the phone is secretly powered by the Mac version of VFPBG VFP/Mac? Geez, that would mean that iPhone will be DOA and never supported by Apple, just as VFP/Mac was DOA and

Re: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
Malcolm Greene wrote: Note to self: mention Malcolm in the credits. To hell with the credits, I'll be checking my mailbox for a royalty check ... gLMAO!g Seriously, a big thank you to Ed and this list would certainly be appropriate. Absolutely!! Ok, it's done, and will be

[OT] Freak Accident

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
Check this out: turns out that Mother Nature is not a football fan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIKdK-T-jZM -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

RE: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread David Crooks
On Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:16 AM Michael wrote: Ok, it's done, and will be included with future versions: http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/fabmate_about.jpg Sure, give Ed a bigger ego than what he has already! :-) David L. Crooks ___

Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650223251,00.html Wow, this is a real shock. I knew Drew and Brent pretty well, but not anywhere near close enough to comment on this ruling. All I can do is echo the sentiment of the lead investigator: This is an unpleasant thing, Smith said.

Re: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/fabmate_about.jpg Brillant! I'll let the rest of you know when my FAB royalty check arrives.g Probably right after I get mine! ;-) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

Re: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
Malcolm Greene wrote: Michael, http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/fabmate_about.jpg Brillant! I'll let the rest of you know when my FAB royalty check arrives.g In order to be eligible, you must refer to it correctly with proper capitalization: FabMate. ;-) -- Michael

RE: RE: FoxPro on Vista

2007-01-18 Thread profox
I do know about Craig's class and use it in new work. I have one large app that uses the crypt class which I know is flaky but its what is in use. I looked in the registry and the provider is there so it looks like the flaky class is even worse under vista. I will see if I can fine the reason

RE: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide

2007-01-18 Thread David Crooks
On Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:24 AM Ed Leafe wrote: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650223251,00.html Wow, this is a real shock. I knew Drew and Brent pretty well, but not anywhere near close enough to comment on this ruling. All I can do is echo the sentiment of the lead

Re: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide

2007-01-18 Thread Vince Teachout
Ed Leafe wrote: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650223251,00.html Wow, this is a real shock. That's awful! I really hope it's not true. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

RE: Determining the type of active index

2007-01-18 Thread Rick Schummer
it's for times where the choices are 1/0 Yes, that is why they are called *Binary* Indexes - bg. Don't worry, you are not the last person to understand this concept. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.rickschummer.com 586.254.2530 - office 586.254.2539 - fax

Re: [OT] Freak Accident

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Madigan
Proof once again that God hates soccer. --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this out: turns out that Mother Nature is not a football fan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIKdK-T-jZM -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

Re: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide

2007-01-18 Thread Alan Bourke
I never met the guy but as a father of a young boy I dread to think what brings a man to that point, if indeed it was premeditated. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... ___ Post Messages to:

[NF] Charlie you could be an expert witness also.

2007-01-18 Thread srussell
http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/Media_Update_January_5_2007.pdf Alepin and Charlie seem to be two peas in a pod. You cna change the day # in the url above to get the next days media highlights. It's a funny short read of 1.5 pages in a large font.

Re: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide

2007-01-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
Alan Bourke wrote: I never met the guy but as a father of a young boy I dread to think what brings a man to that point, if indeed it was premeditated. Like others saidit doesn't matter at this point. The end is still tragic. On a side note, and not one I care to debate, I wonder if

RE: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries

2007-01-18 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Getting that way myself... If I could sum up every mistake I ever made, they are all the same in that I trusted somebody to do what was right.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original

RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
No its not.. Menu's are akin to doors Reports are akin to windows.. There isn't one thing in the programming world that couldn't benefit from fixed objects, and by that I mean you pass a text string to a box with the coordinates and it displays the message with the appropriate buttons.. If we'd

Re: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide

2007-01-18 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Jan 18, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: I knew Drew and Brent pretty well, but not anywhere near close enough to comment on this ruling. I am going with this scenario: Brent was sitting on the rail and slipped and fell. Drew couldn't handle it and followed. It seems to fit the

Re: select from table

2007-01-18 Thread Sytze de Boer
Wow, I knew that the select command was powerful, but this is incredible Is there a book out on this ? Anyhow, Ricardo, many thanks for below example. Unfortunately, it is not quite right. It gives me the result for the most recent 52 records I need the result for the most recent 52 records PER

Re: select from table

2007-01-18 Thread Grigore Dolghin
You may want to have a look at hentzenwerke.com - Taming VFP SQL. On 1/18/07, Sytze de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I knew that the select command was powerful, but this is incredible Is there a book out on this ? Anyhow, Ricardo, many thanks for below example. Unfortunately, it is not

Re: select from table

2007-01-18 Thread jeff
Short but a great book. Helped a LOT when switching back and forth from MS SQL and VFP SQL - Original Message - From: Grigore Dolghin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:22:45 -0600 Subject: Re: select from table You may want to have a look at

Re: [OT] Virgin birth again.....

2007-01-18 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 08:00 PM 1/17/2007 -0200, Helio W. wrote: Perhaps the birth of a female chimpanzee prophet? Possibly God might be thinking, I thought the message was pretty simple the first time.sigh I guess I'll have to step it down a notch for the remaining unbelievers. ;-) -Charlie On 1/17/07,

RE: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries

2007-01-18 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 06:25 PM 1/17/2007 -0800, Michael Madigan wrote: What language is this? LOL Who did you get any? ;- Why, it's .Net-speak of course. ;-) -Charlie ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

RE: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Madigan
Things that have happened to me: Change in marketing director, he brings in his own people and we stop getting work. A year later owner calls us to take over botched job, tells us that we need to learn their new system on our own time, unpaid, then bill us for just the time it takes to fix their

[NF] All the Write Stuff

2007-01-18 Thread Ted Roche
It's a decade old, but a very well-written piece: http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff.html -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [OT] Virgin birth again.....

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Madigan
He may have to send a virgin-birth cockroach for Helio. --- Charlie Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:00 PM 1/17/2007 -0200, Helio W. wrote: Perhaps the birth of a female chimpanzee prophet? Possibly God might be thinking, I thought the message was pretty simple the first

Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Chet Gardiner
And yet, still, 90% of lawyers and doctors are only maginally competent at best... As for plumbers and carpenters -- certification is not designed to weed out the incompetent but rather to raise the bar for entry into lucrative professions to the favored few. In many cases, originally, it

RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Hal Kaplan
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty! =  = The real reason is that programming is an art, not a science... =  = Can't certify art... =  Chet, you are absolutely right that programming is an art. So is ... An architect

RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Hal Kaplan
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner =  = And yet, still, 90% of lawyers and doctors are only = maginally competent at best... =  = As for plumbers and carpenters -- certification is not = designed to weed out the incompetent but rather to raise the = bar for entry into

RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
As a young kid, I worked as an electricians helper and carpenters helper. I have also worked as a marine electrician at bath iron works on naval frigates. When everything went to hell on me, I thought about opening a business as an electrician, but I found out that the entry bar is very high as

Re: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Madigan
I thought Apple was getting rid of the smug guy in their ads, but there he is on the right hand side. --- Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mmmm, Just found out the name of the company who will be making the IPhone.

Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Chet Gardiner
I don't agree -- we can agree to disagree that that understanding can be quantified and certified and should be. You CAN'T QUANTIFY the artistic side of anything! If you can't quantify it, you can't reasonably certify it. I guess I'm old school. I come from the time when there was no

Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Chet Gardiner
You're right. It was the white TRADE unions** who were keeping out those others. I was stretching an argument when I didn't have to. Silly me. :-) Hmmm, are lives at risk from bad BUSINESS programming practices? I can see where lives could be at risk from programmers who write process

RE: [NF] All the Write Stuff

2007-01-18 Thread Hal Kaplan
=  = It's a decade old, but a very well-written piece: =  = http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff.html =  = Ted Roche = It reminds me of the way we did things 40 years ago. Nothing online ... everything was batch. During a good week, you could get 4 turnarounds. You wrote code and

Storing code in a table

2007-01-18 Thread Justin Darnell
I have a table called export_list, and a column called exec_code (type memo). In my program I want to execute the code stored in the 'exec_code' column if the column is not empty. Is this possible? My thought was that I could use macro expansion, but I get various errors when trying to execute

Re: Storing code in a table

2007-01-18 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
Justin: - - -- - Sure, just strToFile() into some temp file name, COMPILE it, and run it. I do it all the time. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of

Re: Storing code in a table

2007-01-18 Thread Alan Bourke
Various ways - you could dump it to a temporary file with STRTOFILE() and then _VFP.DoCmd(DO tempfile.prg) -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow

Re: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name

2007-01-18 Thread Alan Bourke
He's definitely 10lb of smug in a 5lb bag ... -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: Storing code in a table

2007-01-18 Thread Justin Darnell
Thanks to both of you for your responses. That does work. Do you have to take it to a file? Not a big deal, just curious. Thanks again, J On 1/18/07, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Various ways - you could dump it to a temporary file with STRTOFILE() and then _VFP.DoCmd(DO

RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Hal Kaplan
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = Hmmm, are lives at risk from bad BUSINESS programming = practices? I can see where lives could be at risk from = programmers who write process control programs for nucular = power plants or automobiles. Interesting question, eh? =  = 

RE: Storing code in a table

2007-01-18 Thread Tracy Pearson
You may be able to use ExecScript. Tracy -Original Message- From: Justin Darnell Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:02 PM Thanks to both of you for your responses. That does work. Do you have to take it to a file? Not a big deal, just curious. Thanks again, J

Re: Storing code in a table

2007-01-18 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
It is funny, I am sitting here trying to figure out whether and how to do the same thing in PHP. I have always liked the idea of maintaining validation language and other utility code in tables. Developing my own framework in PHP is bringing out my Wish I would have done it's of my VFP

Re: Storing code in a table

2007-01-18 Thread Dave Thayer
On 1/18/07, Justin Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to both of you for your responses. That does work. Do you have to take it to a file? Not a big deal, just curious. Are you running VFP9? EXECSCRIPT() should do the trick without a tempfile. -- Dave Thayer Denver, CO

Re: [NF] Windows Media Player 10 -- hog?

2007-01-18 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
I use a little utility called AllPlayer. it does just that: plays (nearly) everything: most music formats and video formats, including Real, QT, and all of the usual Windows suspects. www.marbit.com.pl A bit flukey, in that some of the menu items are in Polish, but worth it. On Jan 17,

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, The liberals just love freedom of speech Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to keeping their certifications even if they manufacture their own 'facts', however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com

[OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle

2007-01-18 Thread Chet Gardiner
And a dip-shit, pipsqueek, ass-kissing, pro-torture, anti-Constitution ATTORNEY knows more than judges about national security? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/18/MNGNINKGA91.DTLfeed=rss.news ___ Post Messages to:

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread john harvey
Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo have a small problem like that? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:26 PM To: 'ProFox Email List'

Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:38 PM, john harvey wrote: Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo have a small problem like that? Except that the mark in this case is the standard scientific peer review process. In Galileo's case, and in what

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Madigan
Liberals usually can't tell facts from emotions. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Madigan, The liberals just love freedom of speech Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to keeping their certifications even if they manufacture their own

Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. The word 'theory' doesn't mean a guess. It means an explanation that has withstood extensive testing and verification. You do realize that gravity is

RE: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle

2007-01-18 Thread Hal Kaplan
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner =  = And a dip-shit, pipsqueek, ass-kissing, pro-torture, = anti-Constitution ATTORNEY knows more than judges about = national security? =  = http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/18/M NGNINKGA91.DTLfeed=rss.news = 

Re: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Madigan
You forgot the anti-latino words. --- Chet Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a dip-shit, pipsqueek, ass-kissing, pro-torture, anti-Constitution ATTORNEY knows more than judges about national security?

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Madigan
I believe he did. I believe Columbus was told that he would sail off the edge of the world. I believe they had snow in Malibu today. Blame that on global warming. --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Madigan
I believe it was the automobile that ended the great ice age. Blame the automobile for killing off the wooly mamouths. --- Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how in the hell can you know which side of the theory is right until history proves it. No doubt in my mind that the

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread john harvey
But, it's exactly the same as Galileo, because he went against group think which is what you have here, and not even ALL scientists agree. It's just those on the left side of center. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent:

Re: [NF] All the Write Stuff

2007-01-18 Thread Chet Gardiner
They also have unlimited time and money to do their work. Software development will probably diverge into two paths -- one boring and predictable for critical applications and the other interesting and artsy. In some ways, it already has. In my life I've been lucky enough to spend about 30

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. So which one is correct ? The problem with extensive testing and verification, at least in my opinion is that most people when testing, already have the outcome in their mind, which makes them arrive at the conclusion

RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?

2007-01-18 Thread john harvey
I'm about to upgrade my cellphone and I was thinking about getting something that would allow me to browse the internet. I've had blackberries, and palm pilots, and didn't care for either. I'm looking at the Palm Treo 650: http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_list=trueq

Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!

2007-01-18 Thread Chet Gardiner
I was rather pleased at how quickly and efficiently that nasty government bureaucracy, the SSA, got me signed up and money dropping into my account... Hal Kaplan wrote: = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = Hmmm, are lives at risk from bad BUSINESS programming =

RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?

2007-01-18 Thread john harvey
Try this link, the other was from my account and won't work for others. http://www.cingular.com/treo650 John ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Stephen the Cook
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: And how in the hell can you know which side of the theory is right until history proves it. No doubt in my mind that the temperature is changing, but is it a cycle that happens every once in awhile or a permanent thing. None of us know, and so it should only

RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?

2007-01-18 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I'm using the 650 now... Love it... Download a software package called pdanet and connect it via usb to your laptop, or use the bluetooth (finally getting that working reliably) Only thing I don't like and I think it is my ISP is that when I'm roaming, I can no longer receive my email on it.

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Yep, but is it a cycle, or are we headed in one direction only ? Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:55 PM, john harvey wrote: But, it's exactly the same as Galileo, because he went against group think which is what you have here, and not even ALL scientists agree. It's just those on the left side of center. Wrong. Galileo didn't start with his conclusion

Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. LOL!! So which one is correct ? Certainly not the silliness of your first sentence. I thought you were trying to be serious. -- Ed Leafe --

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Like I said... Some planets have gravity Some don't.. Which one is correct ? Does gravity pull down, or does it have no pull at all ? Your wonderful way with words and your superior intellect makes me think that perhaps neither is correct and that the theory of gravity, is only a theory.

Re: select from table

2007-01-18 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Sytze de Boer wrote: Wow, I knew that the select command was powerful, but this is incredible Is there a book out on this ? Anyhow, Ricardo, many thanks for below example. Unfortunately, it is not quite right. It gives me the result for the most recent 52 records I need the result for the

RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?

2007-01-18 Thread john harvey
Have you tried gps tracking from the phone? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:08 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm using the 650

RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics

2007-01-18 Thread john harvey
Everything has gravity, it's a matter of degree. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:14 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying

RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?

2007-01-18 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I do not believe it does that.. I need a GPS receiver for my site http://www.virgilslist.com as I'm going to be adding cemetary's to it. Possibly that is an extra software package that can be bought ? If not, and its part of the phone and you figure it out, let me know as I've played with all the

RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?

2007-01-18 Thread john harvey
I think all new cellphones are required to have gps (E-911) included. How to access that might be a trick. I'm ordering the phone now. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:22 PM To:

RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?

2007-01-18 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I'm very satisfied with it myself... Let me know when you figure out the GPS portion as I would like to use that if its available.. Thanks Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original

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