[OT] To Celebrate Obama's Victory, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel
http://voanews.com/english/2008-11-05-voa18.cfm * Not my president http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
John wrote: How long before we get attacked? I'm saying within 6 months, and the response won't seem correct. I think it will probably be we need to show restraint. Hi John! I'll see your Jimmy Carter and raise you a Bill Clinton. Just don't know if it will be Hamasfatah or Iranatolla. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Ed, I am absolutely inspired by the organizational skills demonstrated by the Obama campaign. I've never seen a candidate that was so deliberate and so thorough. No candidate has deserved his win more in my lifetime. Hi Kristyne! Pure dumb luck aided by mass treason and $200 million in enemy infiltration. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 4, 2008, at 11:20 PM, John wrote: Rev Wright for what? William Ayers - head of CIA? Father Pfulge - secretary of state? Traitor, er, Colin Powell - ambassador to france? Tony Rezko secretary of housing? Wow, I thought you would realize how lame you sound with this crap by now. You had your chance. Your unwavering, unquestioning support of GWB showed the depth and value of your wisdom. Time for you to step aside with your hate and let the people who want to make things better get things done. There's no way they can fuck it up any worse than your choice has done. Hi Ed! Why lookie here who's talking about hate! -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Michael Oke, II wrote: Hi Michael! Like the man said, so glad this is archived. Do you really believe that there is NO WAY? Or is it that you believe that they can't? I hope and pray that you are right but seriously doubt that that will be the case. There's no way they can fuck it up any worse than your choice has done. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Ed, Wow, I thought you would realize how lame you sound with this crap by now. There are a lot of people that just don't want to believe what just happened tonight. I look forward to the massive change this election result will have not only here but all over the world. We needed a new President Elect Obama to show ourselves and the world that we're DONE with the way we've been behaving recently. I'm going to be sleeping really well tonight. Extremely well. Hi Kristyne! Yeah, dream about how President McCain planned to save your home for you. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator John McCain made a very heart felt concession speech tonight in which he called for his supporters to unit behind President Elect Obama. He took full responsibility for the Republican losses, but in all honesty, the Republicans never had a chance of electing him president; because, Senator McCain was going up against a perfect storm created over the last eight year by his own party. Hi Leland! Perfect storm of dirty tricks. Let's see stealing campaign signs in the dead of night, false accusations that don't unravel until the eave of the election and election fraud help the low-life son of a bitch against the real-world enemies that he will try to turn tail and run from. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] TED STEVENS WILL WIN SENATE RACE!
Michael Madigan wrote: This is great news. We counter their criminal president with our criminal senator! Hi Michael! Trouble is, he won't be able to legislate from the slammer. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] TED STEVENS WILL WIN SENATE RACE!
No, but Governor Palin can then appoint a young Republican Senator. * Barack Obama Antichrist gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] TED STEVENS WILL WIN SENATE RACE! To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 3:29 AM Michael Madigan wrote: This is great news. We counter their criminal president with our criminal senator! Hi Michael! Trouble is, he won't be able to legislate from the slammer. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] TED STEVENS WILL WIN SENATE RACE!
Michael Madigan wrote: No, but Governor Palin can then appoint a young Republican Senator. Trouble is, he won't be able to legislate from the slammer. Hi Michael! I hope she picks a real winner. Need something to connect her with the independents. Didn't help that troopergate was only resolved yesterday morning. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel
Only your depraved mind could twist that story to include President Obama's victory. As someone who in the past has said that anyone who doesn't support the president is a traitor... welcome to your own bigoted nightmare you terrorist. And you predicted McCain with 271.. Or did the Republicans get your tagline wrong and are going to try and vote today? Whichever way... Thank god for a great election and let's pull together and get the US out of the financial mire it's in... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 November 2008 08:00 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] To Celebrate Obama's Victory,Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel http://voanews.com/english/2008-11-05-voa18.cfm * Not my president ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel
He ain't the president yet, Mary. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:07 AM Only your depraved mind could twist that story to include President Obama's victory. As someone who in the past has said that anyone who doesn't support the president is a traitor... welcome to your own bigoted nightmare you terrorist. And you predicted McCain with 271.. Or did the Republicans get your tagline wrong and are going to try and vote today? Whichever way... Thank god for a great election and let's pull together and get the US out of the financial mire it's in... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 November 2008 08:00 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] To Celebrate Obama's Victory,Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel http://voanews.com/english/2008-11-05-voa18.cfm * Not my president ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] European markets lack confidence in sambama? Nah, must be something else.
Hi Everybody! http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=europe -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel
Well his birth has been validated or are you still hoping on a coup or some unrevealed secret that will invalidate his victory... Boy you are the bad looser you accused all the Dems of being 4 years ago except with more venomous spite... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 November 2008 09:09 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts,Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel He ain't the president yet, Mary. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:07 AM Only your depraved mind could twist that story to include President Obama's victory. As someone who in the past has said that anyone who doesn't support the president is a traitor... welcome to your own bigoted nightmare you terrorist. And you predicted McCain with 271.. Or did the Republicans get your tagline wrong and are going to try and vote today? Whichever way... Thank god for a great election and let's pull together and get the US out of the financial mire it's in... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 November 2008 08:00 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] To Celebrate Obama's Victory,Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel http://voanews.com/english/2008-11-05-voa18.cfm * Not my president ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1DBB1A8A053C9C428C990F4E53EEB662A [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] How the Kenyan won
Hi Everybody! http://minx.cc/?post=276861 -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Ensuring selected item in listbox is visible ...
Hi all Scenario: Two list boxes, one above the other with Craig Boyd's (horizontal) splitter between them. The item currently selected in the upper listbox is towards the bottom. As I move the splitter up (and shorten the upper listbox), the selected item disappears (not unexpectedly !). Any suggestions how I can scroll it by an appropriate amount to keep the selected item visible ? Many thanks Paul Newton ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS
John Weller wrote: I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]? Hi John! If you were talking about foreign contributions via Visa/ MC gift cards to a certain US presidential campaign, yes. Otherwise, no. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Gil, Have you thought of possibly purchasing a few gold coins or smaller gold bars, then simply placing them in a safe deposit box? Or, if they want to send it all off to me, I'll invest it in my house in their name. Anytime they wish, they can visit via Google Earth. :-D Hi Kristyne! You should ask for some of the money that the unspeakable-on-non-[OT] presidential candidate will have to give to charity. Not losing your house is a good cause. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS
Hhmm opinions obviously vary Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Hi John! If you were talking about foreign contributions via Visa/ MC gift cards to a certain US presidential campaign, yes. Otherwise, no. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
John wrote: Yep, and it will be there for your Marxist president too! Sorry, isn't he YOUR president too? I thought that was the concept of DEMOCRACY which you swore to defend? John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:49 PM, John wrote: And it two years, there will be a mass exodus of Democrats from both houses, after they really screw things up. I just hope we can put it back together. Obama will put us in a dangerous position. I hope we don't get nuked by his associates. I'm so glad this stuff is archived. All your droolings about the Bush presidency are there for others to review and gauge your wisdom. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
John wrote: How long before we get attacked? I'm saying within 6 months, and the response won't seem correct. I think it will probably be we need to show restraint. Who is 'we'? Are you israeli? I thought you were US'arian (pun intended). John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:54 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] President Obama Kiss Israel goodbye. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
John wrote: You are forgetting that 40% of the 95% don't pay taxes, so you and I, and a bunch of other people who work for a living, will be sending Joe the non-hacking, alcoholic, crack smoking, democrat a check. JH Speaking of Joe. What was his name? Bill the electrician or something? Well, anyway, let's say it was Bill. IN YOUR FACE, BILL. LOL ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
John wrote: And it two years, there will be a mass exodus of Democrats from both houses, after they really screw things up. I just hope we can put it back together. Obama will put us in a dangerous position. I hope we don't get nuked by his associates. LOL A strange concept. Why would your ASSOCIATES nuke you? You should worry for those who are NOT your associates. Besides, he is YOUR president now, so his associates are the country's associates. John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:32 PM To: ProFox Mailing List Subject: [OT] President Obama In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Those who called for the policies for that past 8 years now have to admit that their time has come and gone, and that they have nothing to show for their efforts come complete and abysmal failure. I have not doubt that they will continue to cling to the illusion that they have the slightest understanding of the world, but at least for the next two years we no longer have to worry about them. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Ed, Wow, I thought you would realize how lame you sound with this crap by now. There are a lot of people that just don't want to believe what just happened tonight. I look forward to the massive change this election result will have not only here but all over the world. We needed a new President Elect Obama to show ourselves and the world that we're DONE with the way we've been behaving recently. I'm going to be sleeping really well tonight. Extremely well. No Kristyne. We, the rest of the world, are not so gullible. It just wont do by just changing a president. The govt. (those who are career and not elected), the NSA, the pentagon, all those who have a saying in external affairs are still there. And on top of that your republicans are there waiting for you to trip. So no, it's not so easy to be DONE with the way you've been behaving... the last hundred years. It will take a change of heart of most part of your population to do that. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] TED STEVENS WILL WIN SENATE RACE!
1) The election is not finalized in AK yet 2) Palin does not have authority to appt. a new senator. AK law says there will be a special election. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
Ricardo, No Kristyne. We, the rest of the world, are not so gullible. It just wont do by just changing a president. I'm aware of that. But we have to start somewhere. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27542176/ Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS
So what exactly is the technical content? John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 John Weller wrote: I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]? Hi John! If you were talking about foreign contributions via Visa/ MC gift cards to a certain US presidential campaign, yes. Otherwise, no. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
John, I always fight marxists here in Brazil and believe me you and Larry are as much as blind by ideology and hatred and impervious to criticism as they are. HW On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:07 AM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, and it will be there for your Marxist president too! John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:49 PM, John wrote: And it two years, there will be a mass exodus of Democrats from both houses, after they really screw things up. I just hope we can put it back together. Obama will put us in a dangerous position. I hope we don't get nuked by his associates. I'm so glad this stuff is archived. All your droolings about the Bush presidency are there for others to review and gauge your wisdom. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.
English is not my native language. But that was a typo, really. Anyway I'm not too bright but probably not as stupid as Sarah Palin and almost all her supporters. Only ignoramuses support other ignoramuses. HW On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Nicholas Geti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Helio Wakasugui [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes. And it's clear that Sarah Palin is even dumber than them. HW Yeah, you don't sound too bright either. The correct syntax is dumber than they [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
Yep, time for me to look for a job in the civilian sector because the DoD now expects 'huge' force shaping to occur -- that means RIFs in active, civilian and services contract positions. Anyway, I have 33 years in so I can retire. v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:32 PM To: ProFox Mailing List Subject: [OT] President Obama In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Those who called for the policies for that past 8 years now have to admit that their time has come and gone, and that they have nothing to show for their efforts come complete and abysmal failure. I have not doubt that they will continue to cling to the illusion that they have the slightest understanding of the world, but at least for the next two years we no longer have to worry about them. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
Oh, I guess you didn't hear Joe (foot in mouth, walking gaff machine). John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:59 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama John wrote: How long before we get attacked? I'm saying within 6 months, and the response won't seem correct. I think it will probably be we need to show restraint. Who is 'we'? Are you israeli? I thought you were US'arian (pun intended). John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:54 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] President Obama Kiss Israel goodbye. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
I'm thinking about the saying those who fail to learn the lessons of history . . . . John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Miller Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:48 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] President Obama Not forgetting... just referrencing the tax credit explanation of the 'tax cut'. What concerns me is that we are very near the tipping point where more than 50% of the population can vote for the other part of the population to hand over its resources... or perhaps we have passed it. I was amazed and saddened by the people going through the polls today that were almost giddy with the idea of the O-man being elected. It was evident they were not in the group, even at the $42K cutoff that would be paying higher taxes. They just can't wait to get stuff taken from the productive members of society. They don't quite comprehend that the higher energy prices from the environmental whacko policies he espoused with take back anything they may have gained - plus so much more. Has anyone heard, are Detroit and Oakland still there? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: John To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:15:24 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] President Obama You are forgetting that 40% of the 95% don't pay taxes, so you and I, and a bunch of other people who work for a living, will be sending Joe the non-hacking, alcoholic, crack smoking, democrat a check. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Miller Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:13 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] President Obama Assuming it would be possible, the 95% of the people getting his tax cut will find it eaten up by $5 plus gas, doubled heating bills, higher unemployment and a host of other schemes to redistribute their wealth. The time has come to hide or shelter as many assets as possible because the tax man cometh. On top of that, if we can infer anything from the way those who disagreed with the Obamessiah were treated... we will see efforts to stifle dissent... which is no longer seen as a positive thing. Good bye free speech. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: John To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:49:52 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] President Obama And it two years, there will be a mass exodus of Democrats from both houses, after they really screw things up. I just hope we can put it back together. Obama will put us in a dangerous position. I hope we don't get nuked by his associates. John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:32 PM To: ProFox Mailing List Subject: [OT] President Obama In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Those who called for the policies for that past 8 years now have to admit that their time has come and gone, and that they have nothing to show for their efforts come complete and abysmal failure. I have not doubt that they will continue to cling to the illusion that they have the slightest understanding of the world, but at least for the next two years we no longer have to worry about them. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
Ed: How do you accomplish that? I am very interested. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Phoenix Python User Group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:14 PM, Ricardo Araoz wrote: I had a client with 28,000 desktops. Deploying (through large-scale, scripted, well-tested mechanisms) is a big deal. Well, you are trading downloading the whole app in one go, or downloading it a window at a time. This is the issue that I addressed when making Dabo able to be served just as a web app is served. It is not a solid .exe single file, but a series of text files, either Python scripts, XML files or image files. You can update a single UI file on the server, and the next time that file is used at the client, the latest is sucked down from the server to the client, just like a browser hitting a website. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel
Why should we pull together under your guy when you refused under (sort of) ours? No reason at all. Bush screwed up the financial markets... he was being, what he thought was a good leader by not exposing the Barney Franks of congress. That's what happens to bipartisan politicians, they are almost always Rs and almost always get the shaft. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Adam Buckland To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:07:38 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel Only your depraved mind could twist that story to include President Obama's victory. As someone who in the past has said that anyone who doesn't support the president is a traitor... welcome to your own bigoted nightmare you terrorist. And you predicted McCain with 271.. Or did the Republicans get your tagline wrong and are going to try and vote today? Whichever way... Thank god for a great election and let's pull together and get the US out of the financial mire it's in... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 November 2008 08:00 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] To Celebrate Obama's Victory,Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel http://voanews.com/english/2008-11-05-voa18.cfm * Not my president --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel
Not that any judge has the courage to act on it, but where has his birth been validated? Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Adam Buckland To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:13:30 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel Well his birth has been validated or are you still hoping on a coup or some unrevealed secret that will invalidate his victory... Boy you are the bad looser you accused all the Dems of being 4 years ago except with more venomous spite... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 November 2008 09:09 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts,Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel He ain't the president yet, Mary. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Adam Buckland wrote: From: Adam Buckland Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel To: ProFox Email List Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:07 AM Only your depraved mind could twist that story to include President Obama's victory. As someone who in the past has said that anyone who doesn't support the president is a traitor... welcome to your own bigoted nightmare you terrorist. And you predicted McCain with 271.. Or did the Republicans get your tagline wrong and are going to try and vote today? Whichever way... Thank god for a great election and let's pull together and get the US out of the financial mire it's in... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 November 2008 08:00 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] To Celebrate Obama's Victory,Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel http://voanews.com/english/2008-11-05-voa18.cfm * Not my president ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1DBB1A8A053C9C428C990F4E53EEB662A [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
On Nov 5, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: Ed: How do you accomplish that? I am very interested. You *do* know that Dabo is open source, right? Just look for yourself! ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: Ed: How do you accomplish that? I am very interested. You *do* know that Dabo is open source, right? Just look for yourself! ;-) OK, sorry for being a smart-ass. Can't help it sometimes! Basically, the app knows its home directory, and creates a list of all the files and their timestamps. It sends that to the server, which does the same, and compares the two. If there is no difference, we're done. If there are any changes, the servers zips up just those changes into a temp file, and sends the name of that file back to the client. The client responds by downloading the file and unzipping it to bring it up to date. For lightweight files, such as .py scripts and .cdxml UI files, the whole process happens as fast as you can load a typical web page in a browser. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
Ed Leafe wrote: Basically, the app knows its home directory, and creates a list of all the files and their timestamps. It sends that to the server, which does the same, and compares the two. If there is no difference, we're done. If there are any changes, the servers zips up just those changes into a temp file, and sends the name of that file back to the client. The client responds by downloading the file and unzipping it to bring it up to date. For lightweight files, such as .py scripts and .cdxml UI files, the whole process happens as fast as you can load a typical web page in a browser. Ed, Do you avoid the zip part if the file is under a certain size? For really small files (which I'm betting many are), it may take more time to zip/pass/unzip than to just pass as is. ??? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?
Rick Schummer wrote: VFP will find the runtimes in the application folder before even looking in the common folder. So, it'll load a smidgen faster by putting the runtimes in the application folder. Depends, naturally. If the app folder is on the network and has to pull it over wire, the commons folder even being checked second is likely to be faster. I have helped many a developer who work in slower network situations to speed up the stating of their app by placing the runtimes on the workstation. Can't tell you the number of times someone has called me and said it works fine on my machine, but the app crawls on the customer network. You're right...I was thinking of everything on the workstation. I took for granted that most folks do that (I bet). I wouldn't dream of running the app on the server anymore, ever since 1999 when I learned about the LOADER idea from others here on ProFox. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:45 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Do you avoid the zip part if the file is under a certain size? For really small files (which I'm betting many are), it may take more time to zip/pass/unzip than to just pass as is. ??? No, as that would add complexity with almost zero benefit. Really, the zip/unzip is extremely fast (profiling shows 0.000 times for one or two files), and the zip also contains a manifest file that contains instructions for syncing the systems. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
Ed: Thanks for the non-smart-ass answer. I have combed through Dabo a lot of times for answers but some take more research than others. I just thought I would ask and you were gracious enough to answer (the second time). ;^) Thanks, Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Phoenix Python User Group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: Ed: How do you accomplish that? I am very interested. You *do* know that Dabo is open source, right? Just look for yourself! ;-) OK, sorry for being a smart-ass. Can't help it sometimes! Basically, the app knows its home directory, and creates a list of all the files and their timestamps. It sends that to the server, which does the same, and compares the two. If there is no difference, we're done. If there are any changes, the servers zips up just those changes into a temp file, and sends the name of that file back to the client. The client responds by downloading the file and unzipping it to bring it up to date. For lightweight files, such as .py scripts and .cdxml UI files, the whole process happens as fast as you can load a typical web page in a browser. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Man did Ed get sauced last night or what? Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Those who called for the policies for that past 8 years now have to admit that their time has come and gone, and that they have nothing to show for their efforts come complete and abysmal failure. I don't know, 50 million people, including women, freed from the yoke of tyranny and given the right to vote in free elections long denied by dictators and terrorists--I think that's a good achievement even if it didn't pan out for our narrowly national interest or political benefit. And let's not poo poo the fact that there has been no terrorist act on our soil since 9/11. Or the fact that despite the financial collapse of the last few months -- whose causes are by no means easily explained by blaming George Bush, because lots of Democrats have their paw prints on the banking bubble , too--unemployment and inflation are historically low. But whatever. Yesterday was not a night for facts. For some reason folks like Ed feel a need to be outrageously unkind. God bless them. I have not doubt that they will continue to cling to the illusion that they have the slightest understanding of the world, but at least for the next two years we no longer have to worry about them. Well, congratulations to Obama and his supporters. I'll pray for you, and the country. We're all going to need it. Now you get to enjoy the curse of getting what you asked for and inflicting it on all of us. :) - Bob -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least nothing new that I dislike. Must be nice. Then again, I guess I made that decision about DotNet. Well, you left out the math module and the os module and the file module and the i/o module and the curses module and .. But hey, what's left for the language then? About 12 reserved words? For the classic languages, that's true: those languages that came out of academia or computer scientists: LISP, Fortran, C, C++, there's usually a pretty limited vocabulary. It tends to be vendors who throw in everything including the kitchen sink. But the point is you could deploy applications WITHOUT them if you choose to. I'd rather keep that choice. You can do that on web site. I have URLs that return only text, only XML, only a graphic. You don't have to return gaudy pages fully of splashy graphics and dancing Flash files. I'd prefer you didn't :) Oh! Wow! I wish we had XML in desktop apps! You've convinced me! Smartaleck! Are you intentionally missing the point or just avoiding it? When I was talking about XML in a web app, I'm thinking of the XHTML the search engines can parse, the RSS and Atom and other microformats you can use to advertise your application or services, offer subscriptions or publish data. You can do that with your desktop app, too. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, do you remember i told you a few weeks ago the financial problems would be the downfall of the republicans ? and don't be such a sour loser ...;) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
We recognize what happened, and now have to prepare countermeasures. The game goes on. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel To: 'ProFox Email List' Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:52:02 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] President Obama Ed, Wow, I thought you would realize how lame you sound with this crap by now. There are a lot of people that just don't want to believe what just happened tonight. I look forward to the massive change this election result will have not only here but all over the world. We needed a new President Elect Obama to show ourselves and the world that we're DONE with the way we've been behaving recently. I'm going to be sleeping really well tonight. Extremely well. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
You get what you pay for - or pay for what you get. Jim ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel
What is a looser? * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:13 AM Well his birth has been validated or are you still hoping on a coup or some unrevealed secret that will invalidate his victory... Boy you are the bad looser you accused all the Dems of being 4 years ago except with more venomous spite... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 November 2008 09:09 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts,Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel He ain't the president yet, Mary. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] To Celebrate Madagain twisting the facts, Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:07 AM Only your depraved mind could twist that story to include President Obama's victory. As someone who in the past has said that anyone who doesn't support the president is a traitor... welcome to your own bigoted nightmare you terrorist. And you predicted McCain with 271.. Or did the Republicans get your tagline wrong and are going to try and vote today? Whichever way... Thank god for a great election and let's pull together and get the US out of the financial mire it's in... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 05 November 2008 08:00 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] To Celebrate Obama's Victory,Hamas fires off 35 rockets into Israel http://voanews.com/english/2008-11-05-voa18.cfm * Not my president ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1DBB1A8A053C9C428C990F4E53EEB662A [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] TED STEVENS WILL WIN SENATE RACE!
That's still good. Then they get nominate a non-crook and win keep the seat. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] TED STEVENS WILL WIN SENATE RACE! To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 5:01 AM 1) The election is not finalized in AK yet 2) Palin does not have authority to appt. a new senator. AK law says there will be a special election. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?
Different strokes for different folks. Why go through the unnecessary network overhead? Loader apps work well *most* of the time, but there is one reason I like a mechanism (manual or automated) to kick people out of the app: it ensures they are running the current one. Case in point: rogue workstation leaves local app running and never restarts the loader to get fresh copy from network. That one workstation is running previous business rules and corrupts data. Sure I can put a version checker into every app operation, but for me that is unnecessary overhead for most apps when a quick kick out works. If the app is 24x7 you need the architecture to update on the fly. In those cases you probably won't be using a monolithic EXE anyway. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?
I wouldn't dream of running the app on the server anymore, ever since 1999 when I learned about the LOADER idea from others here on ProFox. So how do you ensure the user is running the loader and not the local EXE? Have you taken the precaution of adding versioning logic to the app startup and every operation to make sure they are all running the latest and greatest? It is a common flaw in the loader approach and one I have been burned on when taking over projects from other developers. I often see the recommendation to move to this approach, but rarely see people explain some of the pitfalls. I am not saying it is a bad approach, all I am saying is it has its flaws and overhead to consider. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?
Rick Schummer wrote: I wouldn't dream of running the app on the server anymore, ever since 1999 when I learned about the LOADER idea from others here on ProFox. So how do you ensure the user is running the loader and not the local EXE? Have you taken the precaution of adding versioning logic to the app startup and every operation to make sure they are all running the latest and greatest? It is a common flaw in the loader approach and one I have been burned on when taking over projects from other developers. I often see the recommendation to move to this approach, but rarely see people explain some of the pitfalls. I am not saying it is a bad approach, all I am saying is it has its flaws and overhead to consider. Like everything, there are several points (some of which you've mentioned) to be considered. Pros and Cons with all approaches. We've got a slick way of kicking out users here at Sylvan in their app. The original designers really did a good job. It's nice to come into a project that actually works well in most areas. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: Yep, time for me to look for a job in the civilian sector because the DoD now expects 'huge' force shaping to occur -- that means RIFs in active, civilian and services contract positions. Anyway, I have 33 years in so I can retire. What's RIF ??? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Ricardo, No Kristyne. We, the rest of the world, are not so gullible. It just wont do by just changing a president. I'm aware of that. But we have to start somewhere. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27542176/ My g/f is from Brazil. She can attest to this. Several folks in Brazil, Spain, and other countries were texting her celebratory comments and saying that most were very happy with the Obama win. She had to remind them that it really didn't affect her since she's not (yet) an American! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator John McCain made a very heart felt concession speech tonight in which he called for his supporters to unit behind President Elect Obama. He took full responsibility for the Republican losses, but in all honesty, the Republicans never had a chance of electing him president; because, Senator McCain was going up against a perfect storm created over the last eight year by his own party. President Elect Obama gave a stirring, yet humble, victory speech in which he called for the country to unit with him in putting America back on the path envisioned by the founding fathers. All in all, the Democrats had a very good night, as I watched the election returns come in with great joy, realizing history had been made and the country somehow had changed, forever. Let's hope it's change for the better, not for the worse. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Ed Leafe wrote: In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Those who called for the policies for that past 8 years now have to admit that their time has come and gone, and that they have nothing to show for their efforts come complete and abysmal failure. I have not doubt that they will continue to cling to the illusion that they have the slightest understanding of the world, but at least for the next two years we no longer have to worry about them. I think you could say this from either side of the aisle after they've won an election. Fundamentally, both sides seems to cling to their ideals, always accusing the other of being wrong and a failure. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)
Larry Miller wrote: Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the poor. However congress would have to be willing to give up the power to manipulate us through the tax code. Larry Miller And Congress doesn't want to give up tax dollars. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?
Rick Schummer wrote: I wouldn't dream of running the app on the server anymore, ever since 1999 when I learned about the LOADER idea from others here on ProFox. So how do you ensure the user is running the loader and not the local EXE? Have you taken the precaution of adding versioning logic to the app startup and every operation to make sure they are all running the latest and greatest? It is a common flaw in the loader approach and one I have been burned on when taking over projects from other developers. I often see the recommendation to move to this approach, but rarely see people explain some of the pitfalls. I am not saying it is a bad approach, all I am saying is it has its flaws and overhead to consider. You can't merely implement a loader, as you've explained. You also have to have: + app checking the version and refusing to start if it isn't the right version. + app checking to see if there's an update to the loader program + some mechanism to ensure the application reloads within a reasonable timeframe after the new app was uploaded. Point #3 I rarely use, because usually these days I'm fixing a bug or adding a feature everyone wants, but I can send a message to all running apps by dropping a command file on the server with things like shutdown 10 to shut down the application in 10 minutes. At that point, the user gets a modeless always-on-top window telling them to finish up and a countdown to when the app will close itself. So yeah, these things need to be thought about in advance, but I've had this architecture for about a decade now and haven't had any issues to speak of. For a 24/7 app, you'd want to use some variation on the loader that would spawn a new process for the new app while the old version was still running; once the new one was loaded and in place then you'd kill the old. But I can't see how that would work if people were running the exe off the server. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Reduction In Force, Layoff * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:03 PM Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: Yep, time for me to look for a job in the civilian sector because the DoD now expects 'huge' force shaping to occur -- that means RIFs in active, civilian and services contract positions. Anyway, I have 33 years in so I can retire. What's RIF ??? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Well as long as Brazil is happy. Now I feel better. I hope Iran and Syria are happy too. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:03 PM Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Ricardo, No Kristyne. We, the rest of the world, are not so gullible. It just wont do by just changing a president. I'm aware of that. But we have to start somewhere. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27542176/ My g/f is from Brazil. She can attest to this. Several folks in Brazil, Spain, and other countries were texting her celebratory comments and saying that most were very happy with the Obama win. She had to remind them that it really didn't affect her since she's not (yet) an American! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Sure. Ask yourself this. Name another Black guy who's done a good job as mayor or governor and didn't finish out his term in prison. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:03 PM Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator John McCain made a very heart felt concession speech tonight in which he called for his supporters to unit behind President Elect Obama. He took full responsibility for the Republican losses, but in all honesty, the Republicans never had a chance of electing him president; because, Senator McCain was going up against a perfect storm created over the last eight year by his own party. President Elect Obama gave a stirring, yet humble, victory speech in which he called for the country to unit with him in putting America back on the path envisioned by the founding fathers. All in all, the Democrats had a very good night, as I watched the election returns come in with great joy, realizing history had been made and the country somehow had changed, forever. Let's hope it's change for the better, not for the worse. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Russell wrote: CSS to control the look of your site is fantastic. Making a change in that layout will save you from hitting every form in your winform system. Well, if you've subclassed your controls properly, winforms are just as easy to control the look. No advantage there. -- You have not used CSS. Manipulation of a CSS is much easier then crafting controls. You miss the point that CSS abstracts the control from it's display. For web apps you would be surpised that time spent in the GUI is 60-40 or worse. The larger percentage is for making the Look where the lesser is for the functionality. CSS tries to offset that unbalance. AJAX for visual correction of a true C/S feel for your app. Ok, but the winform app does this easily if done right, imo, so no magic required. -- AJAX just hides the postback flash in the browser. Nothing more then hiding the true operation of what is going on. When you identify an item and need corresponding data you have to fetch it, and present it. It could be a change to the data in a second picker control, list or grid. In a winform app you don't have the postback effect. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Russell wrote: A web app has the power of change. Quick change, across the world with very little impact on your infrastructure when you do. The ability to add another language allowing your app to open up another market is easy in a web environment. As opposed to difficult in a desktop app? C'mon! -- Changing 50,000 desktop apps across 15 countries? What if your change was in 2 new GUIs and 15 biz rules? Your site will have to pound out new EXE delivery attempts. CSS to control the look of your site is fantastic. Making a change in that layout will save you from hitting every form in your winform system. You mean as in using classes and inheritance or composition? -- I would say composition in the fact that Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) is a simple mechanism for adding style (fonts, colors, spacing, images) to Web documents. It is not inheretance and is client based, so it is download once and reuse as needed. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Hmmm... Leonidas Young in Richmond. No, he did end up in jail. Maybe Doug Wilder. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:46:34 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama Sure. Ask yourself this. Name another Black guy who's done a good job as mayor or governor and didn't finish out his term in prison. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:03 PM Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator John McCain made a very heart felt concession speech tonight in which he called for his supporters to unit behind President Elect Obama. He took full responsibility for the Republican losses, but in all honesty, the Republicans never had a chance of electing him president; because, Senator McCain was going up against a perfect storm created over the last eight year by his own party. President Elect Obama gave a stirring, yet humble, victory speech in which he called for the country to unit with him in putting America back on the path envisioned by the founding fathers. All in all, the Democrats had a very good night, as I watched the election returns come in with great joy, realizing history had been made and the country somehow had changed, forever. Let's hope it's change for the better, not for the worse. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the poor. However congress would have to be willing to give up the power to manipulate us through the tax code. -- Wasn't that tax code established to catch organized crime, Al Capone, in the first place. I want to have the consumption tax. I don't see a bunch of lawyers enacting a bill to put a lot of lawyers out of business. Sharks will take care of their own. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Did Doug Wilder do a good job? Looks like his biggest achievement was pardoning Allen Iverson. LOL I bet you can see a lot of Black criminals and domestic terrorists being pardoned by Obama. Sirhan Sirhan has got to be excited. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Douglas_Wilder * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:06 PM Hmmm... Leonidas Young in Richmond. No, he did end up in jail. Maybe Doug Wilder. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:46:34 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama Sure. Ask yourself this. Name another Black guy who's done a good job as mayor or governor and didn't finish out his term in prison. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:03 PM Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator John McCain made a very heart felt concession speech tonight in which he called for his supporters to unit behind President Elect Obama. He took full responsibility for the Republican losses, but in all honesty, the Republicans never had a chance of electing him president; because, Senator McCain was going up against a perfect storm created over the last eight year by his own party. President Elect Obama gave a stirring, yet humble, victory speech in which he called for the country to unit with him in putting America back on the path envisioned by the founding fathers. All in all, the Democrats had a very good night, as I watched the election returns come in with great joy, realizing history had been made and the country somehow had changed, forever. Let's hope it's change for the better, not for the worse. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)
And once again we have the first lady and the president both being lawyers. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS) To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:07 PM On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the poor. However congress would have to be willing to give up the power to manipulate us through the tax code. -- Wasn't that tax code established to catch organized crime, Al Capone, in the first place. I want to have the consumption tax. I don't see a bunch of lawyers enacting a bill to put a lot of lawyers out of business. Sharks will take care of their own. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Leafe wrote: In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Those who called for the policies for that past 8 years now have to admit that their time has come and gone, and that they have nothing to show for their efforts come complete and abysmal failure. I have not doubt that they will continue to cling to the illusion that they have the slightest understanding of the world, but at least for the next two years we no longer have to worry about them. I think you could say this from either side of the aisle after they've won an election. Fundamentally, both sides seems to cling to their ideals, always accusing the other of being wrong and a failure. H.L. Mencken said it best, (paraphrasing): The two parties are ever engaged in a great battle to show the other one unfit to rule. Both commonly succeed, and are right. - Bob [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Michael Madigan wrote: Did Doug Wilder do a good job? Looks like his biggest achievement was pardoning Allen Iverson. LOL I'd love to see Iverson explained. That guy seems like a freakin' nut. I'm not a fan of basketball but even I hated the guy from my time in Philly. My hatred came from him telling the coach that when someone was as good as him, he didn't have to practice and that the rest of the team needed the practice instead. What a pathetic poor excuse of a team player. Wonderfully talented individual for bball, but still a LOSER in my eyes! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, do you remember i told you a few weeks ago the financial problems would be the downfall of the republicans ? and don't be such a sour loser ...;) No great gift of prevision was required to see that Republicans would take the blame. It is however grossly unfair that the very people who in Congress who 3 years ago were actively ignoring and covering up the ticking time bomb got rewarded last night because they were fortuitous enough to have it blow up on a Republican president's watch. Where Bush has gone completely and unforgivably wrong is in his handling of the federal budget and in his inability to articulate a positive sustaining vision during the tough times. It's like he tuned out completely after Katrina and the botched Meyers nomination, and other than leading on the surge he was just trying to coast his last couple years into the sunset. And he has paid dearly for it, as have those of us who supported him in thick and thin, and so be it. Also, I'm not a loser, sour or otherwise. :) Contrary to your belief perhaps, I have never invested the essence of my identity or being in a politician or party, so when they go down in flames for whatever reasons, just or unjust or both, all I can do is keep on doing what I do well and wish the best for everyone. Every fiber of my being at the moment is alarmed like never before by the cult of personality around Obama and the enormous question marks over his actual worldview, versus his lofty campaign rhetoric, as juxtaposed against his already proven dishonesty (FISA, public financing, taking shady donations with impunity, etc.). These question marks are now exclamation marks, considering the nation and the world has put their whole hope and faith in a 44 year old unknown with a slick money machine and a cast of controversial characters behind him. I can only hope the office changes the man for the better, instead of feeding on his seemingly boundless narcissism and sense of entitlement, which got an enormous validation yesterday that can boost him to heights of greatness, or depths of corruption. We'll see soon enough. - Bob [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Michael Madigan wrote: Sure. Ask yourself this. Name another Black guy who's done a good job as mayor or governor and didn't finish out his term in prison. Deja vu? I thought we talked about this in the past. There's plenty of white political criminals toothe blacks don't have a lock on it! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Michael Madigan wrote: Well as long as Brazil is happy. Now I feel better. I hope Iran and Syria are happy too. Well, if I date one of them, I'll let you know. Some of those women are pretty hot too. g They're not all bad peopleevery nation has good and bad people. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)
Stephen Russell wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the poor. However congress would have to be willing to give up the power to manipulate us through the tax code. -- Wasn't that tax code established to catch organized crime, Al Capone, in the first place. I want to have the consumption tax. I don't see a bunch of lawyers enacting a bill to put a lot of lawyers out of business. Sharks will take care of their own. That's why those jokers need term limits. Don't let us have career politicians!!! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
Stephen, You are mistaken. I've used CSS already...over 6 years ago, in fact. I agree with your comment. It *is* great. I just was saying that you were comparing that to winforms assuming that a user would have to manually change every control, and my comment was that if he'd subclassed his controls, he wouldn't have to change *every* control. You miss the point that CSS abstracts the control from it's display. No, I know that. I didn't miss that point. That was the problem with classic ASP--that it mixed the content with the markup. Or the problem with monolithic designed Fox apps where they didn't separate the UI from the Bizobj/DataObj layers. For web apps you would be surpised that time spent in the GUI is 60-40 or worse. The larger percentage is for making the Look where the lesser is for the functionality. CSS tries to offset that unbalance. I would agree that more time is spent for appearance in web pages than the amount of time required for appearance in winforms. AJAX just hides the postback flash in the browser. Nothing more then hiding the true operation of what is going on. When you identify an item and need corresponding data you have to fetch it, and present it. It could be a change to the data in a second picker control, list or grid. In a winform app you don't have the postback effect. And the operative word you've used here is hide. Winforms are perhaps easier in that you wouldn't have to do any trickery due to the native object-data binding that takes place. Others may well comment better than me who've done more web work. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)
Stephen Russell wrote: Changing 50,000 desktop apps across 15 countries? What if your change was in 2 new GUIs and 15 biz rules? Your site will have to pound out new EXE delivery attempts. In an enterprise scenario (which if you know Stephen's world -- he's much more into the Enterprise world than the SMB world...thus he thinks on a much larger scale), web apps would probably be easier for the obvious examples you've sited. I suppose you could apply the same approach to the SMB level, but my point is that it's not that difficult when you're dealing with smaller sized clients and thus don't have thousands of client downloads to manage. Look at QuickBooks (the desktop app version) for example. It can be done if properly managed/written. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Iverson is to Basketball as Obama is to the Presidency. The only difference between the two is that Iverson has tattoos. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 1:11 PM Michael Madigan wrote: Did Doug Wilder do a good job? Looks like his biggest achievement was pardoning Allen Iverson. LOL I'd love to see Iverson explained. That guy seems like a freakin' nut. I'm not a fan of basketball but even I hated the guy from my time in Philly. My hatred came from him telling the coach that when someone was as good as him, he didn't have to practice and that the rest of the team needed the practice instead. What a pathetic poor excuse of a team player. Wonderfully talented individual for bball, but still a LOSER in my eyes! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
You're right. Some white mayors are criminals All Black mayors are criminals. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 1:11 PM Michael Madigan wrote: Sure. Ask yourself this. Name another Black guy who's done a good job as mayor or governor and didn't finish out his term in prison. Deja vu? I thought we talked about this in the past. There's plenty of white political criminals toothe blacks don't have a lock on it! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
As usual, Ed jumps the gun slightly with his Subject line. Obama is President-elect and won't be the President for a couple of months yet. ::michael Ed Leafe wrote: In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Those who called for the policies for that past 8 years now have to admit that their time has come and gone, and that they have nothing to show for their efforts come complete and abysmal failure. I have not doubt that they will continue to cling to the illusion that they have the slightest understanding of the world, but at least for the next two years we no longer have to worry about them. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Maybe you can wear a Obama mask in bed and screw her like he's screwing the country. LOL * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 1:12 PM Michael Madigan wrote: Well as long as Brazil is happy. Now I feel better. I hope Iran and Syria are happy too. Well, if I date one of them, I'll let you know. Some of those women are pretty hot too. g They're not all bad peopleevery nation has good and bad people. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
And if the Birth Certificate lawsuit gets traction, he'll never take office. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Michael Oke, II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Oke, II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:55 PM As usual, Ed jumps the gun slightly with his Subject line. Obama is President-elect and won't be the President for a couple of months yet. ::michael Ed Leafe wrote: In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Those who called for the policies for that past 8 years now have to admit that their time has come and gone, and that they have nothing to show for their efforts come complete and abysmal failure. I have not doubt that they will continue to cling to the illusion that they have the slightest understanding of the world, but at least for the next two years we no longer have to worry about them. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Michael Oke, II wrote: As usual, Ed jumps the gun slightly with his Subject line. Obama is President-elect and won't be the President for a couple of months yet. ::michael Ed Leafe wrote: In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Gee, I guess you missed the In a little over two months part of the message. The subject is indeed accurate, as my post was a reflection on the upcoming change to our country under President Obama. The rest of that post deals with those bitter folk who cling to their desperation by doing things like making pedantic remarks without reading an entire post and investing a modicum of thought before firing off their reply. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] California Bans Same Sex Marriages! Giant Victory for Conservatives
This is a giant victory for Conservatives and a big loss to rug-munchers and fudge-packers everywhere. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gaymarriage6-2008nov06,0,2331815.story America got Screwed http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
I did not miss what was in the body of your message nonetheless, your subject was incorrect but understandable. I must have spoken to a dozen people who think that Obama took over the office as of today. They don't seem to understand how the presidential process works. Big surprise there. These are the same people who think that they have been promised that their mortgage and fuel bills will be taken care of by Obama himself. ::michael Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Michael Oke, II wrote: As usual, Ed jumps the gun slightly with his Subject line. Obama is President-elect and won't be the President for a couple of months yet. ::michael Ed Leafe wrote: In a little over two months, we will start on a new path. Gee, I guess you missed the In a little over two months part of the message. The subject is indeed accurate, as my post was a reflection on the upcoming change to our country under President Obama. The rest of that post deals with those bitter folk who cling to their desperation by doing things like making pedantic remarks without reading an entire post and investing a modicum of thought before firing off their reply. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
On Nov 5, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I did not miss what was in the body of your message nonetheless, your subject was incorrect but understandable. I must have spoken to a dozen people who think that Obama took over the office as of today. They don't seem to understand how the presidential process works. Big surprise there. These are the same people who think that they have been promised that their mortgage and fuel bills will be taken care of by Obama himself. Ah, I see. I get to be painted with the same brush as these comical characters you describe. My comment on pedantic remarks seems even more apt after that reply. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
And the painting even more deserved. ;-) Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Ed Leafe To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:28:01 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama On Nov 5, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I did not miss what was in the body of your message nonetheless, your subject was incorrect but understandable. I must have spoken to a dozen people who think that Obama took over the office as of today. They don't seem to understand how the presidential process works. Big surprise there. These are the same people who think that they have been promised that their mortgage and fuel bills will be taken care of by Obama himself. Ah, I see. I get to be painted with the same brush as these comical characters you describe. My comment on pedantic remarks seems even more apt after that reply. -- Ed Leafe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)
They just used the tax code to get Al Capone. I'm sure we have a few more tools then Elliot Ness did back then, so we can feel free to dispense with it. You are correct about the lawyers... they thrive on complexity and ambiguity. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:07:13 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS) On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Larry Miller wrote: Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the poor. However congress would have to be willing to give up the power to manipulate us through the tax code. -- Wasn't that tax code established to catch organized crime, Al Capone, in the first place. I want to have the consumption tax. I don't see a bunch of lawyers enacting a bill to put a lot of lawyers out of business. Sharks will take care of their own. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Hardly have I painted you with the same brush but feel free to claim whatever you feel like doing. ::michael Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 5, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I did not miss what was in the body of your message nonetheless, your subject was incorrect but understandable. I must have spoken to a dozen people who think that Obama took over the office as of today. They don't seem to understand how the presidential process works. Big surprise there. These are the same people who think that they have been promised that their mortgage and fuel bills will be taken care of by Obama himself. Ah, I see. I get to be painted with the same brush as these comical characters you describe. My comment on pedantic remarks seems even more apt after that reply. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Actually the current governor, Tim Kaine, who is not black has pardoned about 1700 convicted felons of the last year or so... restoring their right to vote. One of the problems with this is that before some of them could vote for the the Obamessiah, they were arrested and convicted again. Bummer! Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:12:20 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama Did Doug Wilder do a good job? Looks like his biggest achievement was pardoning Allen Iverson. LOL I bet you can see a lot of Black criminals and domestic terrorists being pardoned by Obama. Sirhan Sirhan has got to be excited. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Douglas_Wilder * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Larry Miller wrote: From: Larry Miller Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:06 PM Hmmm... Leonidas Young in Richmond. No, he did end up in jail. Maybe Doug Wilder. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan To: ProFox Email List Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:46:34 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama Sure. Ask yourself this. Name another Black guy who's done a good job as mayor or governor and didn't finish out his term in prison. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama To: ProFox Email List Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:03 PM Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator John McCain made a very heart felt concession speech tonight in which he called for his supporters to unit behind President Elect Obama. He took full responsibility for the Republican losses, but in all honesty, the Republicans never had a chance of electing him president; because, Senator McCain was going up against a perfect storm created over the last eight year by his own party. President Elect Obama gave a stirring, yet humble, victory speech in which he called for the country to unit with him in putting America back on the path envisioned by the founding fathers. All in all, the Democrats had a very good night, as I watched the election returns come in with great joy, realizing history had been made and the country somehow had changed, forever. Let's hope it's change for the better, not for the worse. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
Ed, investing a modicum of thought That is a huge lesson we can all learn from the Obama campaign, to invest thought prior to taking action. The Obama campaign has been the most deliberate, dedicated, and hard working campaign I've ever seen. When the analysis is done on the number of calls made, rallies scheduled, and obvious dedication of the staff and volunteers, it will be obvious that one of the biggest reasons for the win is that the Obama folks simply out-worked the McCain folks on every measure. I am absorbing that into my own psyche. Far more than luck or being right, planning and diligent hard work produces the best result. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.
Helio, Anyway I'm not too bright but probably not as stupid as Sarah Palin and almost all her supporters. Only ignoramuses support other ignoramuses. I don't see Sarah Palin that way. I think Alaska is a long way from the rest of the country and that she was not very focused on the politics outside of Alaska prior to being selected as McCain's VP candidate. Ignorance != stupidity She's not stupid, but started further behind on the ignorance scale than most picks from the lower 48 states would have been. She'll come out fine. I do not think she has earned most of her bad press, and it will dissipate over time. I would not and did not vote for her, but I do like her. She has a future. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
Yeah it had nothing to do with that $600,000,000 they had to work with, $200,000,000 in untraceable dollars from overseas. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] President Obama To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 1:45 PM Ed, investing a modicum of thought That is a huge lesson we can all learn from the Obama campaign, to invest thought prior to taking action. The Obama campaign has been the most deliberate, dedicated, and hard working campaign I've ever seen. When the analysis is done on the number of calls made, rallies scheduled, and obvious dedication of the staff and volunteers, it will be obvious that one of the biggest reasons for the win is that the Obama folks simply out-worked the McCain folks on every measure. I am absorbing that into my own psyche. Far more than luck or being right, planning and diligent hard work produces the best result. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20081031_Swatting_attacks_on_fruit_flies_and_science.html At her age she had plenty of time (and I bet resources) to study. Instead, she still believe in silly things. She can be as smart as any politician or mafia crook can be, but still she's ignorant. HW On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Helio, Anyway I'm not too bright but probably not as stupid as Sarah Palin and almost all her supporters. Only ignoramuses support other ignoramuses. I don't see Sarah Palin that way. I think Alaska is a long way from the rest of the country and that she was not very focused on the politics outside of Alaska prior to being selected as McCain's VP candidate. Ignorance != stupidity She's not stupid, but started further behind on the ignorance scale than most picks from the lower 48 states would have been. She'll come out fine. I do not think she has earned most of her bad press, and it will dissipate over time. I would not and did not vote for her, but I do like her. She has a future. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
Madigan, Yeah it had nothing to do with that $600,000,000 they had to work with, $200,000,000 in untraceable dollars from overseas. Given that their hard work raised that money, I go back to my previous comment. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.
Helio, She can be as smart as any politician or mafia crook can be, but still she's ignorant. It takes more than a couple of months as a VP candidate to overcome the many years of ignorance derived from isolation. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
Illegal work. They took disposal credit cards and cards from overseas. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] President Obama To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:26 PM Madigan, Yeah it had nothing to do with that $600,000,000 they had to work with, $200,000,000 in untraceable dollars from overseas. Given that their hard work raised that money, I go back to my previous comment. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.
What's Joe Biden's excuse? * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes. To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:28 PM Helio, She can be as smart as any politician or mafia crook can be, but still she's ignorant. It takes more than a couple of months as a VP candidate to overcome the many years of ignorance derived from isolation. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] President Obama
Reduction In Force v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:03 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] President Obama Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: Yep, time for me to look for a job in the civilian sector because the DoD now expects 'huge' force shaping to occur -- that means RIFs in active, civilian and services contract positions. Anyway, I have 33 years in so I can retire. What's RIF ??? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Determine if no activity in VFP App Screen
Hello all, Does anyone have a method or API call to determine if a user has had no activity on the active screen on a workstation? (actually in a Terminal Server session) ? I have a customer, who already has Terminal Server set to decide if no activity has taken place for 2 hours, then it logs off the session, but then it bombs out the VFP app and messes up things. I need to have something on the VFP app to determine if there has been no activity in this session for 1 HOUR and then gracefully log off my app BEFORE the T.S. session shuts down because of inactivity. I'm not looking for a data related determination, but more so activity on the screen or something in Windows API to determine this if possible. Thanks, Philip B. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Determine if no activity in VFP App Screen
I wonder if terminal server gives of a windows message. I would have thought so. If so maybe a bindevents might do the trick Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip Borkholder Hello all, Does anyone have a method or API call to determine if a user has had no activity on the active screen on a workstation? (actually in a Terminal Server session) ? I have a customer, who already has Terminal Server set to decide if no activity has taken place for 2 hours, then it logs off the session, but then it bombs out the VFP app and messes up things. I need to have something on the VFP app to determine if there has been no activity in this session for 1 HOUR and then gracefully log off my app BEFORE the T.S. session shuts down because of inactivity. I'm not looking for a data related determination, but more so activity on the screen or something in Windows API to determine this if possible. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Determine if no activity in VFP App Screen
Philip Borkholder wrote: Hello all, Does anyone have a method or API call to determine if a user has had no activity on the active screen on a workstation? (actually in a Terminal Server session) ? I have a customer, who already has Terminal Server set to decide if no activity has taken place for 2 hours, then it logs off the session, but then it bombs out the VFP app and messes up things. I need to have something on the VFP app to determine if there has been no activity in this session for 1 HOUR and then gracefully log off my app BEFORE the T.S. session shuts down because of inactivity. I'm not looking for a data related determination, but more so activity on the screen or something in Windows API to determine this if possible. Thanks, Philip B. Hi, Philip. It doesn't help with your question really (sorry!), but this is another reason why I favor the disconnected approach, similar to what Charlie Coleman uses. Then again, it's easier for me since I'm not using VFP on the backend anymore, but instead MySQL. Let me take a stab at helping you: Are you looking to somehow keep your app alive by simulating some sort of activity so that the TS doesn't disconnect? Perhaps something in a timer where you move the mouse a fraction of a foxel (...iow, a super small unit)? Good luck! --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] President Obama
Larry Miller wrote: Actually the current governor, Tim Kaine, who is not black has pardoned about 1700 convicted felons of the last year or so... restoring their right to vote. One of the problems with this is that before some of them could vote for the the Obamessiah, they were arrested and convicted again. Bummer! Pardoned 1700 convicted felons?!?!??? Surely this guy can't win re-election!?!? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
