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2006-09-27 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Stephen, Working for some companies that wouldn't foot the bill for me to attend over the past 16 years ... My last employer (EDS) and I had worked out a deal where I paid for the conference and they paid for my time off as training days so I didn't have to take vacation to go to conferences.

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2006-09-27 Thread john harvey
Email List' Subject: RE: FoxForward -- thanks Stephen, Working for some companies that wouldn't foot the bill for me to attend over the past 16 years ... My last employer (EDS) and I had worked out a deal where I paid for the conference and they paid for my time off as training days so I didn't

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2006-09-27 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: My last employer (EDS) and I had worked out a deal where I paid for the conference and they paid for my time off as training days so I didn't have to take vacation to go to conferences. It is not ideal, but it got me out the door. I did get them to pay for a couple of

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2006-09-27 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Michael, I wasn't aware that you were independent again...when did you leave EDS? That was what...a 2-3 year run for you? Time flies... Yes, it has been in the plans for the last 9 months or so. All the programming jobs in the entire division where I work got shipped out of country, and I

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2006-09-27 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
John, Ok Kris, so where's the link to the pictures of the project in it's current state? Do you have a webcam up on the property? Good question. We have a few photos up, but there's a couple hundred more to post that aren't there yet. I was working excessive hours until 9/15, then went to a

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2006-09-27 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Yes, it has been in the plans for the last 9 months or so. All the programming jobs in the entire division where I work got shipped out of country, and I decided it was time to go ahead and let myself be laid off rather than to attempt to transfer to a different group

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2006-09-27 Thread Hal Kaplan
= -Original Message- = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel = Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:55 = To: 'ProFox Email List' = Subject: [OT] Kristyne's house (was RE: FoxForward -- thanks) =  = John, =  =  Ok Kris, so where's the link

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2006-09-27 Thread Stephen the Cook
MB Software Solutions wrote: You were doing VFP/Fox work, right? Any idea which country took away your jobs? My guess: India. I thought it was an American company that took her work away. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159

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2006-09-27 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Michael, You were doing VFP/Fox work, right? Any idea which country took away your jobs? My guess: India. I was doing VFP/ASP/etc. work. Lots of system support, web back end stuff, and a good share of VFP as well. Lots of VFP middle tier work. Any retraining I do comes out of my

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2006-09-27 Thread Michael Madigan
We always suspected that about you. We will make do with what we have and continue or miserable uneventful boring lives... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of

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2006-09-27 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Stephen Michael, You were doing VFP/Fox work, right? Any idea which country took away your jobs? My guess: India. I thought it was an American company that took her work away. All those jobs going out of country are being SENT there by American companies. No Indian company is able

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2006-09-27 Thread Vince Teachout
Wow, Kristyne, the house is beautiful! Great job! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings,

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2006-09-27 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
, September 27, 2006 11:29 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: FoxForward -- thanks Stephen Michael, You were doing VFP/Fox work, right? Any idea which country took away your jobs? My guess: India. I thought it was an American company that took her work away. All those jobs going

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2006-09-27 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Vince, Wow, Kristyne, the house is beautiful! Great job! Now all I have to do is continue to make enough money to be able to keep it. :-) All the plans are in place but you know how these things go. Anything could happen. Steve and I bit off a lot when we decided to go for a Lindal house on

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2006-09-27 Thread Hal Kaplan
Madigan == Cretin ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise,

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2006-09-27 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: All those jobs going out of country are being SENT there by American companies. No Indian company is able to come here and grab them without help. Let me be clear: I don't blame our foreign brothers/sisters at allthey're offering their services, just like I

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2006-09-27 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: I'm going into energy consulting and internet marketing in addition to custom software development. I have a degree in mechanical engineering in the HVAC discipline, but haven't worked in the area since my days at General Dynamics doing thermal calculations for rockets

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2006-09-27 Thread Michael Madigan
http://www.geocities.com/vbierschwale/  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:29 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: FoxForward -- thanks Stephen Michael, You were

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2006-09-27 Thread Michael Madigan
Kaplan == Schmuck --- Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Madigan == Cretin ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

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2006-09-27 Thread Andy Davies
Kristyne said: Let me be clear: I don't blame our foreign brothers/sisters at allthey're offering their services, just like I would... Companies offshore work or it works the other way round and they keep salries down by convincing government there's a skills shortage - In the UK 24,000 IT

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2006-09-27 Thread MB Software Solutions
Andy Davies wrote: Kristyne said: Let me be clear: I don't blame our foreign brothers/sisters at allthey're offering their services, just like I would... Well, to be clear, I said thatnot Kristyne. Companies offshore work or it works the other way round and they keep salries down

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2006-09-19 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On Sep 18, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: I went to the UT game and watched a tough fight and loss. : ( Otherwise I could have had a few Dr. Peppers for my friends. Good thing you weren't there, then. The restaurant we went to that night was filled with

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2006-09-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
I wanted to just say that I had a great time at FoxForward this year. It was great meeting all of you and seeing familiar faces again. Kevin did a great job and I look forward to next year's event! Kevin -- if you had a mailing list set up for FF attendees, please pass this on to them!

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2006-09-18 Thread Dave Bernard
, MCSD, MCDBA The Intellection Group, Inc. http://www.IntellectionGroup.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FoxForward -- thanks I wanted to just say

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2006-09-18 Thread Kevin Cully
Thank you for the kind words. My board of directors helped me out immensely, both in advice and with hard labor. Without my family's support, everything would have been a mess, no doubt. Without the speakers there would have been no 'value' in the conference. Michael, I'd like to thank

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2006-09-18 Thread Dave Crozier
To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks Thank you for the kind words. My board of directors helped me out immensely, both in advice and with hard labor. Without my family's support, everything would have been a mess, no doubt. Without the speakers there would have been no 'value

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2006-09-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 18, 2006, at 9:49 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: Without the speakers there would have been no 'value' in the conference. Michael, I'd like to thank you, and all of the other speakers that took time out of their busy lives to prepare their presentation, travel to Alpharetta, and to give so

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2006-09-18 Thread Dave Bernard
: FoxForward -- thanks On Sep 18, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Allen wrote: I think one of the biggest draws to a conference is to meet like minded people. The actual content is second to that. Just my opinion. The sessions are to my mind the start of the thought process that needs to be continued

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2006-09-18 Thread Allen
] Subject: RE: FoxForward -- thanks The lack of a watering hole (without having to drive or walk) was a slight inconvenience to me, even though I'm local. We managed to get sizable groups to go to places nearby pretty easily, although the groups might have been a bit larger if no driving was required

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2006-09-18 Thread Tracy Pearson
-Original Message- From: Ed Leafe Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:03 PM Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks On Sep 18, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Allen wrote: I think one of the biggest draws to a conference is to meet like minded people. The actual content is second to that. Just my

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2006-09-18 Thread MB Software Solutions
Tracy Pearson wrote: For those presenters that need to change the font sizes quickly: *-- The following sets the font to Lucida Console 10pt Local laEnv[25] Set Library To (Sys(2004) + FoxTools.fll) Additive _EdGetEnv(_WOnTop(),@laEnv) laEnv[22] = Lucida

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2006-09-18 Thread Kevin Cully
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks On Sep 18, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Allen wrote: I think one of the biggest draws to a conference is to meet like minded people. The actual content is second to that. Just my opinion. The sessions are to my mind the start of the thought process

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2006-09-18 Thread Tracy Pearson
-Original Message- From: MB Software Solutions Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks Tracy Pearson wrote: For those presenters that need to change the font sizes quickly: *-- The following sets the font to Lucida Console 10pt

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2006-09-18 Thread Kevin Cully
Point taken. Several people mentioned the same thing. When I originally signed the contract, the hotel had that poor excuse of a bar in working order. When I returned for the walk through, they were doing construction. I asked them Will the bar be finished and restocked by the time of our

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2006-09-18 Thread Kevin Cully
I'm not sure we could afford to fly them down here from Canada. g Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net john harvey wrote: Yeah, me too. The conference was fun and informative. I'd like to make a recommendation for next year though. We need

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2006-09-18 Thread john harvey
the same results as having a meeting place in the hotel. John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:49 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks I forgot to give a plug

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2006-09-18 Thread john harvey
Well, don't y'all have ladies in Hotlanta? VBG John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:15 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks I'm not sure we could afford to fly them

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2006-09-18 Thread Kevin Cully
in Hotlanta? VBG John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:15 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks I'm not sure we could afford to fly them down here from Canada. g Kevin Cully

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2006-09-18 Thread Kevin Cully
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:49 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks I forgot to give a plug to the restaurants across the street. Definitely within walking distance but most of them are far too small for a group of 20

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2006-09-18 Thread john harvey
Potayto - potahto John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:28 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks Yes, but not where you capitalize the first letter of the words. We have

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2006-09-18 Thread Rick Schummer
, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.rickschummer.com 586.254.2530 - office 586.254.2539 - fax   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Bernard Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 03:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FoxForward

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2006-09-18 Thread Dave Bernard
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks On 9/18/06, Rick Schummer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The number one reason people don't attend conferences is the direct

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2006-09-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 18, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Kevin Cully wrote: Even though the hotel bar was under deconstruction, I should have asked someone to bring in drinks. We could have gathered in the common area downstairs where we had the Meet and Greet. By contract, I couldn't have brought in drinks or

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2006-09-18 Thread Dave Bernard
Another view here: http://www.ipbartenders.com/php/gallery.php?id=4 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FoxForward -- thanks On Sep 18, 2006, at 4:30 PM

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2006-09-18 Thread Kevin Cully
John Koziol really wanted to bring one but the attendance numbers of the conference hindered the financial feasibility. g Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: What? No PortaBar?

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2006-09-18 Thread Stephen the Cook
Kevin Cully wrote: John Koziol really wanted to bring one but the attendance numbers of the conference hindered the financial feasibility. g I went to the UT game and watched a tough fight and loss. :( Otherwise I could have had a few Dr. Peppers for my friends. Stephen Russell DBA /

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2006-09-18 Thread Bill Anderson
MB Software Solutions wrote: I wanted to just say that I had a great time at FoxForward this year. It was great meeting all of you and seeing familiar faces again. Kevin did a great job and I look forward to next year's event! Kevin -- if you had a mailing list set up for FF attendees,

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2006-09-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 18, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: I went to the UT game and watched a tough fight and loss. : ( Otherwise I could have had a few Dr. Peppers for my friends. Good thing you weren't there, then. The restaurant we went to that night was filled with Florida fans who got