Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer

2001-11-30 Thread Ralf Gütlein
Where's the catch in it? I just went through the online registration process and didn't find anything fishy (such as an adhesion contract). I'm curious what will happen... . ô ô ) -oOOo--(_)---oOOo-- Ralf Guetlein Biotest Medizintechnik GmbH Industriestrasse 1

Re: [PEDA] Padstack

2001-11-30 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:59 PM 29/11/2001 -0500, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: >At 11:27 AM 11/30/01 +1100, Michael Beavis wrote: >>Free pads allow for more powerful design rules to be employed but it is >>possible to lose them when synchronising from SCH if care is not taken. >>If the 'Delete component' option is selec

[PEDA] vias and multilayerboards

2001-11-30 Thread Matthias . Trebeck
Hi, I have a problem with vias on a 6 layer board with a stack up like: T --P-- 1 --C-- 2 --P-- 3 --C-- 4 --P-- B Among others a via type, from layer 1 to layer 4, witch is depending on the layer stack, were used. But some of the vias were only connected on layer 1 and layer 3. Our

Re: [PEDA] Blind and buried via's Mayhem

2001-11-30 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] vias and multilayerboards

2001-11-30 Thread Emanuel Zimmermann
Matthias, If you plot the Gerbers with the option "plot holes" checked you will rub out a 0 mil annular ring as well as a i.e. 0.001 mil (which satisfies your DRC rule). So never plot the holes in Gerbers! Hope this helps, Emanuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a problem with vi

Re: [PEDA] Blind and buried via's Mayhem

2001-11-30 Thread Richard Barsczewski
Steve, We have designed a number of boards with controlled depth holes. Does your vendor do a quality on this type of hole? If so, would you mind giving me their name? Thank you, Richard

Re: [PEDA] SV: Phatom polygons another tip

2001-11-30 Thread Jenkins, Charlie
Why would I want to keep extra copper where it's not wanted? Electrically I might want the copper to separate sensitive areas of a board where a gnd net was missing. For my purposes I like to keep as much copper on board as possible. One because it makes my etchant last longer and two because if

[PEDA] Using Multiple Vcc for same part

2001-11-30 Thread Dave Babcock
Hi, I am using some logic gates that require a different Vcc value in different areas of my circuit. For example, a fairchild 74VHC00 that I need 5V at one location and 3.3V elsewhere. Since Vcc is a hidden pin it is showing up on the same net. Any way to get around this in schematic or do I n

Re: [PEDA] Using Multiple Vcc for same part

2001-11-30 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
If you are using 99SE, place a part and then left click on it. Up pops a menu. Click on Properties. Then check the Hidden Pins checkbox. This will make the power pins show on the schematic. Then you can explicity tie them to any power port you want. Be careful that when annotation occurs, al

[PEDA] SV: Using Multiple Vcc for same part

2001-11-30 Thread Peder K. Hellegaard
Schematics with hidden powerpins are non-complete documentation and should be abandoned, - therefore: use only components with visible powerpins !!! Med venlig hilsen / Best regards from Peder Hellegaard Mediatronic Kisumvej 9 7800 Skive Denmark E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEDA] AW: Using Multiple Vcc for same part

2001-11-30 Thread Georg Beckmann
This was discussed a lot of times here. The best way is, forget the 'hidden' stuff, change all your parts with the power- pins displayed. For multiple part components, delete all the hidden power pins on all parts, draw visible power pins on the first item. >From now on, you have total control on

Re: [PEDA] Seeking Popular or Standard Footprint for Surface Mount LEDs

2001-11-30 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Frank Gilley wrote: > While there surely must be more shapes, sizes, and mountings for LEDs than > almost any other component, there are quite a few SMT LEDs available in a > variety of standard footprints like 0603, 0805, 1206, 1210, and SOT-23 just > to name the more comm

Re: [PEDA] Seeking Popular or Standard Footprint for Surface Mount LEDs

2001-11-30 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> since they will tend to mount them backwards more often than not, and Must be a Murphy's Law thing. You would think they would mount them backwards 50% of the time, not more often. But that's if Murphy isn't looking ;-) No matter how many security guards you hire, you can't always keep Murph

Re: [PEDA] Padstack

2001-11-30 Thread Brooks,Bill
Again you are most observant Abd... The problem I encountered was the removal of the net from the pad used for mounting. And if it was a component, as many of our older designs were, the macros marked it for deletion. I believe I was using service pack 5 at the time... I am now using SP6 and your

Re: [PEDA] Using Multiple Vcc for same part

2001-11-30 Thread Richard Sumner
Not just 'can' you MUST! Then you can explicity tie them to any power port you want. Cheesecote Mountain CAMAC 24 Halley Drive; Pomona, NY 10970 845 364 0211, www.cmcamac.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To le

Re: [PEDA] vias and multilayerboards

2001-11-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:47 AM 11/30/01 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I have a problem with vias on a 6 layer board with a stack up like: [ T p 1 c 2 p 3 c 4 p B ] >Among others a via type, from layer 1 to layer 4, witch is depending on >the layer stack, were used. But some of the vias were only connected on

Re: [PEDA] Using Multiple Vcc for same part

2001-11-30 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] SV: Phatom polygons another tip

2001-11-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:03 AM 11/30/01 -0500, Jenkins, Charlie wrote: >Why would I want to keep extra copper where it's not wanted? Electrically I >might want the copper to separate sensitive areas of a board where a gnd net >was missing. For my purposes I like to keep as much copper on board as >possible. One bec

[PEDA] Please HELP!

2001-11-30 Thread Tim Fifield
Every time I do something in 99SE PCB editor I get a little window that says "Access violation at address 0E347E2A in module 'ADVPCB.DLL' Read ... Exception Information: Exception Occurred in PCB: (What ever the last command was) Note: After any system crash it is good practice to save your w

Re: [PEDA] Please HELP!

2001-11-30 Thread Brad Velander
Tim, my first guess is that something has corrupted your "ADVPCB.DLL" file. Others would probably know better if I am wrong. First thing that I would do is to save and protect any files that you have customized (ie. INI files, libraries, etc.). If this error is only occuring in on

Re: [PEDA] Using Multiple Vcc for same part

2001-11-30 Thread Cliff Gerhard
I agree with all the previous posts, it is best to show the power pins. I mostly use the Protel supplied library symbols only for caps, resistors, etc. For most ICs, I make my own symbols. For discrete logic, I create a separate part for the component that is a power block (a square with the po

Re: [PEDA] Please HELP!

2001-11-30 Thread Tim Fifield
Brad, I'll try that. FYI, it doesn't even occur when I'm working with another pcb in the SAME .ddb file. Very frustrating. It's happened in the past but just seems to go away or only happens with a few commands, now it's everything. Tim -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMA

Re: [PEDA] Please HELP!

2001-11-30 Thread Tim Fifield
This might be a clue, I tried repairing the ddb file and it says it can't because it's being used by another user. I have NO ddb file open at all Tim -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:09 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subje

Re: [PEDA] Please HELP!

2001-11-30 Thread Tim Fifield
Never mind with the repair, some one else had the ddb file open even though it didn't on my active design stations in the design explorer. Tim -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:09 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PE

Re: [PEDA] SV: Phatom polygons another tip

2001-11-30 Thread Brian Guralnick
- Original Message - From: "Jenkins, Charlie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SV: Phatom polygons another tip | Why would I want to keep extra copper where it's not wanted? Electrically I | migh

Re: [PEDA] Please HELP!

2001-11-30 Thread Darryl Newberry
>FYI, it doesn't even occur when I'm working with >another pcb in the SAME .ddb file. Perhaps not a corrupted ddb, but corrupted pcb file? Try exporting the offensive PCB, creating a new, empty ddb, then importing the pcb. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a

Re: [PEDA] SV: Phatom polygons another tip

2001-11-30 Thread Jenkins, Charlie
Your right Brian. Things change for a production house that must comply with regulations and can afford to reclaim copper and other waste products. My very low volume prototypes don't use enough chemicals to qualify for reclamation equipment. In fact it costs me to properly dispose of used echan

Re: [PEDA] SV: Phatom polygons another tip

2001-11-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:03 AM 11/30/01 -0500, Jenkins, Charlie wrote: >Why would I want to keep extra copper where it's not wanted? Electrically I >might want the copper to separate sensitive areas of a board where a gnd net >was missing. From my understanding, this will increase crosstalk by increasing the cap

[PEDA] Printing multiple pages

2001-11-30 Thread Afshin Salehi
Hello all, I have a quick question. Has anyone written a Client Basic program to print multiple schematic sheets? I have not seen a feature in Protel for printing multiple files unless I overlooked it. Thanks for the help Afshin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Printing multiple pages

2001-11-30 Thread Afshin Salehi
WOW, guess I just had to ask the question to receive the answer. I opened up the print setup menu for the heck of it and saw a "Batch Type" drop down menu. I selected "All Documents" and guess what it printed... :) Its amazing how some answers will come so quickly at times and take forever at

Re: [PEDA] Using Multiple Vcc for same part

2001-11-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:07 AM 11/30/01 -0800, Cliff Gerhard wrote: >When I get a clean DRC, I can be confident that nothing was overlooked. I >have worked the other way, ending up with DRC errors and checking them off >to make sure they are all were there for a reason. Inevitably, one will >slip thru and bite you

Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer

2001-11-30 Thread Don Ingram
Simple, If enough people sign up on the Tasking Compiler then Prottle feel justified in charging us all for ATS. Kind of a 'baubles for the natives' deal. Too bad if you are a specialist PCB designer or just an Engineering firm who moved on past the 8051in the late 80's to one of the far better

Re: [PEDA] Using Multiple Vcc for same part

2001-11-30 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> At the schematic end, I always check for all unconnected pins and then pop > a No-ERC directive on the ones that are truly intended to be unconnected. > (The Error matrix default does not do this) Yeah, I do this too. The no-ERC directive on unconnected pins is more to remind me that I hav