Re: [widgets] Call for Input: Use Cases and Requirements for Widgets Access Request spec

2009-05-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
le" section of the Requirements document. Please expand on R52-54, if possible. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Call for Input: Use Cases and Requirements for Widgets Access Request spec

2009-05-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Scott Wilson > wrote: >> Is there a particular preferred format for submitting use cases? > > Not really, but it's best if it's something that we can include into: > >

Re: [widgets] i18n proposals document

2009-05-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
of the above applies. However, it would be great to get your thoughts on what is now in the spec. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widget] Security model

2009-05-24 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 5/24/09 7:25 AM, timeless wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote: 1. If no element is used, the application type (e.g., HTML, Flash, whatever) is responsible for providing the security context/rules under which the widget runs. For HTML this means that a widget

Re: [widget] Security model

2009-05-25 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: >> I should have made myself more clear. I meant that the widget would behave >> as if it had been dragged from the hard-drive with respect to access to HTTP >>

Re: [widget] Security model

2009-05-25 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote: >> should the following inline resources load? >> >> >> http://foo.com"/</a>> >> http://foo.com/image";> >> http://bar.com

[widgets] Packaging call for review

2009-05-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
The Widgets 1.0: Packaging and Configuration will go to second last call tomorrow (28th of May). Effectively, the spec is feature complete but desperately needs review: it will have a 3 week review period (which is very short, but we want to get this to CR quickly!). Spec is available at: http

Re: Feature names: Typo in example

2009-05-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Marcin, On 5/29/09 4:26 PM, Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Marcos, The following typo has been found by BONDI contributors. The example in http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#the-feature-element now specified as: http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets";> http://example.org/api.geolocation";

Re: Feature names: Typo in example

2009-05-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
For the sake of the disposition of comment, please verify that you are satisfied with the changes and response below. On 5/29/09 4:55 PM, Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Marcos, Thanks. Your proposal is generally ok me, feature name is just IRI. I have, however, 2 arguments to change your proposal

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, versioning

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
To avoid semantic collisions with other W3C standards, I suggest changing > "version" to e.g. "docversion". > 2. The text similar to the one from DigSig spec could be put to P&C 8.1, just > to show roadmap and intentions. > I don't agree with your conclusion. Versioning in the P&C is understood in the context of the widget element. That is, the widget's version is X. What version of the configuration document format is denoted by the namespace. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 5

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
e notify us promptly by > responding to this e-mail. Thank you. > > -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 1

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
mum version supported version > should be > minimum supported version fixed. > the the CC MUST > should be > the CC MUST fixed. > 5.3 > it is recommended  that a user agent internally treat all zip-relative > should be > it is recommended  that a user agent internally treats all zip-relative fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 2

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
educe the number of ... Fixed. > In this case, to find find the ... > should be > In this case, to find the ... Fixed. > 7.3 > whose folder-name case-sensitively match the string ... > should be > whose folder-name case-sensitively matches the string ... Fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, versioning

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
as to what minimum version of the > language is required for the content to work properly.  No difference > in processing is required for differently specified version="" and > baseProfile="" attributes. > See also the link below for a detailed discussion as to why you are suggesting in not ideal: http://www.w3.org/QA/2007/12/version_identifiers_reconsider.html -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 3

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
d to by the src  attribute is a vector graphic format ... > could be > If the file pointed to by the src  attribute contains an icon in a vector > graphic format ... Having the word icon in there doen't make sense as an icon is a concept, not a tangible object. I added the word "of" to try to make it more clear: "is of a vector graphic format" > 8.11 > The allowed values are any name of a character set listed in ... > should be > The allowed value is any name of a character set from those listed in ... fixed > (a user agent are required ... > should be > (the user agents are required ... Fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Purpose and utility of unclear

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
e > string of the specifiers of the feature itself just meant it to be available > to Web content unconditionally and didn't bother to mint a widget feature > string? Like I said, feature was originally intended to request access to proprietary features designed for widgets (namely BONDI). If the API just becomes available in the browser, then no feature string is needed. But yes, we have a potential problem here until we settle on the security model. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, interoperability

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
then it should be free to do so; if not, it can impose its own constraints so not to crash. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Purpose and utility of unclear

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 6/1/09 4:40 PM, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 16:44, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Henri Sivonen wrote: Using a feature element denotes that, at runtime, a widget may attempt to access the feature identified by the feature element's name attr

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, zip-rel-path ABNF

2009-06-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
%x4-4FFFD / %x5-5FFFD / %x6-6FFFD / %x7-7FFFD / %x8-8FFFD / %x9-9FFFD / %xA0000-AFFFD / %xB-BFFFD / %xC-CFFFD / %xD-DFFFD / %xE1000-EFFFD > Authors need to keep path lengths below 250 bytes. Unicode code points can > require more than one byte to encode, which can result in > a path whose length is less than 250 characters. > should be > Authors need to keep path lengths below 250 bytes. Unicode code points may > require more than one byte to encode a character, which > can result in a path whose length is less than 250 characters to be > represented in more than 250 bytes. fixed. > UTF8-chars > should be > utf8-chars or utf8-char or something new (after the ABNF is updated) . Fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, versioning

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
- From: marcosscace...@gmail.com [mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marcos Caceres Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:18 PM To: Marcin Hanclik; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, versioning On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Cameron McCormack

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, interoperability

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 6/2/09 12:18 PM, Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Marcos, No, they are different... From the interoperability perspective both are "potential interoperability issues". You can't dictate those rules in the spec because they are based on the capability of the device. Of course, not everything

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, versioning

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 6/2/09 11:39 AM, Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Marcos, What version of the configuration document format is denoted by the namespace. So there is versioning, but it is based on namespace and not on version attribute. This is just syntactical issue. It's more of a conceptual issue with _real

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 1

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
it is too pedantic, but I found this: > http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/g58.html > in > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_officio#cite_note-3 > Thanks for the links. I've checked all e.g., and i.e., and all conform to us-en as required by the w3c. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Purpose and utility of unclear

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
widget) may access the API. > http://bondi.omtp.org/1.0/security/BONDI_Architecture_and_Security_Appendices_v1.0.pdf, > section B.4.(1|2). > Right. This is applicable for BONDI user agents, but not necessarily user agents that use the W3C's DAP-WG APIs. It is unlikely that Web Bro

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 4

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
k the user agent ignore an object (e.g., a file or a DOM node)." > Not sure what it means. Let me try that again, "The term in error is used in this Step to mean that an element, or attribute, or file in a configuration document is non-conforming to the rules of this specification. How an element, or attribute, or file is to be treated when it is in error is always given when the term is used; but will generally require the user agent to ignore any element, attribute, or file that is in error. To ignore means user agent must act as if the element, or attribute, or file is not present." Is that any better? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
elements of the gadget. If it isn't declared, it isn't > injected, and if you try calling those functions they just aren't there. > > What this does make less clear for me is in W:A&E why you'd ever want to > call "hasFeature()"? > I agree.

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 4

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
> To ignore means that the user agent must act as if the element, or attribute, > or file is not present." > Fixed! thanks again Marcin for the detailed review! -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 6

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
le-extension, attempt ... I think file is correct here. > attempt to match the file-extension to one in the first column > should be > attempt to match the file-extension to one of the strings in the first column Fixed > Comments as above for "Rule for Identifying the media type of a file". > As above. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 3

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
hink a consistent definition, at least within one document would help in > comprehending the topic. I've just made it: "The value of a version attribute is an arbitrary string (possibly empty)." That's all it is. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 7

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
lt start files table. > > How to choose the item from that columnt? I moved the following text from the Default Start Files section, down to step 8: "When attempting to locate a default start file, a user agent must attempt to locate a file entry whose file-name matches one of the default start files based on the order they appear in the default start files table (from top to bottom). File names must be treated as case-sensitive." > > > Stopped at Step 8. To be continued. > Nice one! nearly at the end :) -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
declare a feature, e.g., , and then you can ask for an pointer to it at runtime: var foobarator = Bondi.getFeature("foo:bar"); foobarator.crush().kill().destroy(); var barfoo = Bondi.getFeature("bar:foo"); barfoo === underfined; // true -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C LC, general comments

2009-06-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
t is correct. The same would hold for required="TRUE", which would be "false". Not sure if we should change this or not, or keep it strict. > /5/ Rule for Parsing a Non-negative Integer > > Couldn't we just refer to some well-established definition, if there is one > handy? Seems like this must have been done many times before. And what about > those negative numbers, then? Not needed? :-) The algorithm is based on HTML5's, but modified to handle " 100px" or "100 200" (where 100 would be returned). It's how browses handle i...@width and i...@height. I also don't want to reference more specs, it's a pain to have to jump around different specs looking for definitions... especially for little ones like this one. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, viewmodes, referencing other specs, guarantee of consistency

2009-06-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
.  [Widgets-Views] > > Widgets 1.0: Media Query Extensions. A. Bersvendsen and M. Caceres. > Unpublished editors' draft. > > Is this the correct reference in terms of the naming (views vs. MQE)? It's ok for now... we will sort out that mess in the next few weeks. It's really nothing to worry about. > I think everything a I'm going to assume "a" is "awesome" :) -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, viewmodes, referencing other specs, guarantee of consistency

2009-06-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
orry for this. My problem. Marcin Hanclik ACCESS Systems Germany GmbH Tel: +49-208-8290-6452 | Fax: +49-208-8290-6465 Mobile: +49-163-8290-646 E-Mail: marcin.hanc...@access-company.com -Original Message- From: marcosscace...@gmail.com [mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marcos

Re: [widgets] Moving Widgets 1.0: Digital Signature spec to Candidate Recommendation

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
iew-diff.html I made the publication date the 12th of June... though that is highly optimistic :) Anyway, we can update that when we have a firm date. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Widgets 1.0: Digital Signatures

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
s a blank paragraph between it and > the 3. number, this differs from 6. I could not replicate this? > - > If the signatures list is not empty, sort the list of signatures by > the file name field in ascending numerical order (e.g. signature1.xml > followed by signature2.xml followed by signature3.xml etc). > > change "xml etc" to "xml, etc." Fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Reminder: Comments for LCWD of Widgets 1.0: Digital Signatures due June 1

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
t; XXX algorithms", which seems to be in conflict with section 7 that > states the algorithm used must be one of algorithms listed in section 6. > This seems to be an open ended requirement. I agree. > Suggestion - Remove the statements in section 7.1. It is down to the > signer to choose the algorithm to use. If they choose to use a > non-recommended algorithm they should understand that user agent support > cannot be guaranteed. Right. Frederick, wdyt? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Reminder: Comments for LCWD of Widgets 1.0: Digital Signatures due June 1

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
GmbH Tel: +49-208-8290-6452 | Fax: +49-208-8290-6465 Mobile: +49-163-8290-646 E-Mail: marcin.hanc...@access-company.com -Original Message- From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-webapps-requ...@w3.org ] On Behalf Of Marcos Caceres Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:08 PM To: P

Re: Storage and widgets

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
e., widget.preference just references whatever the Window storage object is... I don't have the spec Web Storage spec handy, so I can't remember what it is called (window.storage?)). Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Implementing Google Wave with W3C Widgets

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
to progress the > collaboration/shared state Widget extensions? > I've not looked at this enough to comment, but can you describe what you have in mind in a bit more detail. Nice work on integrating the Wave stuff so quickly, btw. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: I18N issue: case-sensitivity of locale subdirectories

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:33 PM, wrote: > On 5.5.2009 13.16, "ext Marcos Caceres" wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Robin Berjon wrote: >>> Assume we have two localisation subdirectories: >>> >>>  locales/en/ >>>  locales/EN/ >

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
_Security_Appendices_v1.0.pdf > B.2 specifies more details. > I still have no clue what requestFeature() does/means. The again, I have not read the Bondi spec regarding that. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Getting A&E spec to Last Call

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
e References - This section will be completed as the document > matures. > > Other than the above, what else must be done before we can publish a LCWD of > the A&E spec? Need to sort out how Preferences work. Need to also define how read only preferences work (i.e., what happens when an author tries to set a preference that is read only). -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Access Requests Use Case: Restricted access to remote web services using white/black lists

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
sounds a bit prescriptive. We need to rework this a bit if we want to include it in the requirements. I think we should discuss this during the F2F. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
other thread Marcos stated that one of the > benefits of was that if a widget gets exploited, the > exploited code couldn't get access to any features that the widget > hadn't enabled using . However this does not seem to be true > if the exploited code could simply call

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
27;ve >>>already launched. > There is an ongoing debate about requestFeature(). > BONDI spec is approaching both widgets and websites and basically > requestFeature() is planned to be primarily used only by websites. > Ok, that makes sense; but I have serious doubts anyone will implement that. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
n't been activated > with ? Should there be no function object for frob()? Or should it > be there but throw upon calling? Or something else. > Not there. > Please specify this. Right, I think this needs to be specified in the A&E spec but not in packaging. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
ussing this if, as you said before, it has no relevance to widgets. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 7

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Marcin, I missed the following: > > … ignore this element/attribute. Stop processing this element … > > Here, better linking to the preceding “if” could add clarity. A “.” (dot) > and imperative mode may result in misunderstanding (there are many instances > of this case). Can you clarify wha

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
hem. > Understood, but isn't there some way to load them dynamically even if they are declared? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 6/8/09 11:20 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:34:14 +0200, Marcos Caceres wrote: I still have no clue what requestFeature() does/means. The again, I have not read the Bondi spec regarding that. On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:34:19 +0200, Marcos Caceres wrote: Yes, that was

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
2009/6/9 Anne van Kesteren : > On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:38:14 +0200, Marcos Caceres wrote: >> On 6/8/09 11:20 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:34:19 +0200, Marcos Caceres >>> wrote: >>>> Yes, that was the design. If requestFeature() i

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 6/9/09 11:58 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:32:49 +0200, Marcos Caceres wrote: Like I said, as far as WebApps is concerned requestFeature() does not exists. What I meant was the requestFeature() undermines without addressing the security issues. I'm getting mor

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
ll discuss this as part of DAP. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] What does it mean to have an unavailable API

2009-06-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
that > requestFeature() will be applicable also to widgets. The detailed discussion > is planned anyway. > BONDI is not WebApps. What BONDI decides to do has no bearing here until it is formally proposed as an input. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Rule for finding a file within a widget package

2009-06-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
morrow. Obviously, that won't be in the final draft. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/ -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[widgets] Last Call Comments

2009-06-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
I'm forwarding the following comments on behalf of Martin Nilsson, of Opera Software, with his permission, to be addressed as part of the LC review. Kind regards, Marcos == Section 5.3: Why not mandate all paths to be UTF-8? I really hate the notion of "If an author chooses to use cp437-c

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, versioning

2009-06-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
e, we will assume you have accepted the comments and no further action is needed. If further action or clarification is needed on your part, then please let us know ASAP. Kind regards, Marcos On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > On 6/2/09 11:39 AM, Marcin Hanclik w

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, interoperability

2009-06-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
ifications > shouldn't try to define conformance beyond what implementers are likely to > do, it's just a waste of good pixels. > > -- > Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ >    Feel like hiring me? Go to http://robineko.com/ > > > > > > > -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 3

2009-06-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
> From: marcosscace...@gmail.com [mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Marcos Caceres > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:47 PM > To: Marcin Hanclik > Cc: public-webapps@w3.org > Subject: Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 3 > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Marci

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, interoperability

2009-06-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
; Could we agree that I will send my confirmations to all my P&C LC emails we > exchanged and with which I am ok by this Thursday, 18.06? > Sure! otherwise, expect an email flood :) Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Please include a statement of purpose and user interaction expectations for

2009-06-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
e and Robin's additional feedback, I've added the following to the spec as part of "The Feature Element" section: "How a user agent makes use of features depends on the user agent's security policy, hence activation and authorization requirements for features are beyond the scope of this specification." Is that satisfactory? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, viewmodes, referencing other specs, guarantee of consistency

2009-06-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
r specification that is not public and it is not very clear > what it will include. > > Of course, I will wait until ViewModes appears and comment then, since > currently my input may double someone else's input. > I'm unsure how to proceed here. Until we publish a FPWD

Re: [widgets] P&C LC, general comments

2009-06-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:26 PM, wrote: > On 3.6.2009 18.29, "ext Marcos Caceres" wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM,   wrote: >>> "A user agent MAY support the [Widgets-DigSig] specification ..." >>> And would have written it as: >>> &q

Re: [widgets] P&C LC, general comments

2009-06-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
e those aliases marked as "preferred MIME name". >> - Suggest to replace "(a user agent are REQUIRED to support [UTF-8])" with >> "User agents MUST support [UTF-8]." I had missed this in the last set of comments. Fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[widgets] P&C Last Call Period

2009-06-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
Just a gentle reminder that the P&C Last Call period ends on 19 June. Comments after the deadline will not be considered until we are in CR (or in another Last Call, if need be). Spec is at: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/ Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Public keys in widgets URI scheme?

2009-06-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
that as everyone seems to converge on HTML as > the core of their systems, reuse gets easier and easier. If somebody > did want to repackage an extension as a widget, it should be possible > to reuse a lot of the code directly. Yes, I can certainly see that on the code path there would not be much problem (aside from the proprietary bookmarks, history, etc. APIs). Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, zip-rel-path ABNF

2009-06-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
ed to keep path lengths below 250 bytes. Unicode code points may require more than one byte to encode a character, which can result in a path whose length is less than 250 characters but whose size is greater than 250 bytes." -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [P&C] Definitions: installation, instantiation

2009-06-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
ns are all in the document and explicitly marked as definitions (using the dfn tag). I'm going on vacation in 50 mins, so I don't have time to extract them. Maybe someone on the BONDI side can write some XSLT magic to extract them out? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [P&C] Definitions: installation, instantiation

2009-06-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
ease provide a URL? Ah, sorry. I got confused (reading the title of the of the email would have helped! Thanks a lot GMail!). The only definition we have is: "Initialization means a run through the steps for processing a widget package post installation of a widget." I'm not sur

Re: Comments on Widgets spec

2009-06-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote: > Hi, > > I have also noted that the two examples in 7.2 use a wrong namespace > (w3.org instead of www.w3.org). Fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Draft Minutes from 10 June 2009 f2f meeting

2009-06-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
for the availability of a feature will be required (like testing if an object is available in JS, etc.). The WG will not be defining what those methods are, however. > Without hasFeature(), what does P&C mean? The definition given in the spec still holds. hasFeature() and the semanti

Re: [widgets] P&C Last Call comments, 7

2009-06-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
st align the text to be either descriptive or all imperative for > consistency. > If you can live with it, I think I will leave this as is. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] RE: P&C Last Call comments 1..7+

2009-06-18 Thread Marcos Caceres
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Re: widgets spec

2009-06-18 Thread Marcos Caceres
update the acknowledgments before we republish. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] [preference element] question on the value attribute

2009-06-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
t of the preference element, then please send it to the WG for consideration. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Request for comments: Delivery Context Ontology Last Call; Deadline 7 Aug 2009

2009-06-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
Call: >>        http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-uwawg-minutes.html#item01 >> >> No patent disclosures have been made [4]. >> >> Thank you! >> >> Matt Womer >> UWA Activity Lead >> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/2007/uwa/ >> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-dcontology-20090616/ >> [3] >> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-dcontology-20090616/Overview.html#sec-summary-changes >> [4] http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/40755/status > > > -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Draft Agenda for 25 June 2009 Voice Conference

2009-06-24 Thread Marcos Caceres
Comments from Josh Soref (18 June; 18:55:10 +0300 aka #1102) > >  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1102.html > > 4. Widgets A&E spec: status; plans for LCWD publication > >  http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/ > > 5. Widgets Update spec: PAG status > >  http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-updates/ > > 6. AOB > > > > -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] [preference element] question on the value attribute

2009-06-24 Thread Marcos Caceres
ce between: {'hello': 'value'} Or But using (DOM3) textContent on this would be useless as information is lost in the following case ('fasdfasd'): 1234 54321 Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Feature names: Typo in example

2009-06-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Marcin, For the LC DoC, can I get a quick confirmation that you are satisfied with the responses of the WG for this thread. Kind regards, Marcos On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote: > > For the sake of the disposition of comment, please verify that you are > satis

Re: [widgets] P&C LC comments on I18N/L10N

2009-06-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
e changed the "normalization" behavior so that the result would now be: "en-us,en-au,en" (i.e., repetitions are removed from left to right, not from right to left). > Would 'canonicalization' be a more suitable term here than > 'decomposition'? I think both of those terms are scary, so I've just said "would become" instead of "would decompose". > /6/ Runtime resolution of localized resources > > What specification should describe how a reference to a resource (which > could be in a localized folder) is resolved at runtime, based on the user's > language range? Sorry, I don't understand this question. Can you please rephrase it? > That is not quite in the domain of the packaging > specification, given that it is runtime behavior. This functionality is > sketched in the fallback behavior example, but it is non-normative. As above. > Thanks for considering these comments. Thanks for the detailed review. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C LC#2 comment regarding icons

2009-06-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
ion where localized and unlocalized elements are gathered in 9.7): http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/ However, can you please confirm that it is all consistent now? Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Editorial: 9x Processing

2009-06-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
of processing rules to include your more precise suggestion: "This section defines various processing rules, which are a set of common algorithms used by the steps for processing a widget package." For the sake of the DoC, please confirm if you are satisfied with the responses above. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Rule for extracting file data from a file entry

2009-06-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
I removed 2119 terminology. > I also think it is bad form to put security precautions in a note. I understand, but making the security precaution normative would also result in a non-testable assertion. Do you have a better suggestion as to what I should do here or should I leave it as is (that is, leave it as a note)? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

RE: [widgets] P&C LC#2 comment regarding icons

2009-06-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
where localized and unlocalized elements are gathered in 9.7): http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/ However, can you please confirm that it is all consistent now? Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] editorial style

2009-06-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
d also have included the following code points as they are not allowed in file names: U+000A LINE FEED (LF), U+000B LINE TABULATION, U+000C FORM FEED (FF), U+000D CARRIAGE RETURN (CR). I've added them. For the sake of the DoC, is that satisfactory? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Widgets PAG seeks feedback on Widget Updates spec

2009-06-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
ser that the widget has been updated. 11. End-User restarts the widget. So, I don't what would be achieved by removing widget.update() as it doesn't actually do any "updating". If anything, we need to redefine widget.update() to make it more useful and powerful. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Rule for Identifying the media type of a file

2009-06-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
hy I thought audio/x-wav would be more appropriate. WDYT? > An additional column mentioning the format might be nice for readers. Sorry, by "mentioning the format" do you mean a link to the specification that defines the format? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Rule for finding a file within a widget package

2009-06-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:20:25 +0200, Marcos Caceres wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Anne van Kesteren >> wrote: >>> "TO BE WRITTEN, PLEASE IGNORE" if normative material is yet to be >>&

Re: [widgets] Verify Zip archive

2009-06-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
t would be a nice feature, it was not identified by the WG as a requirement [1]. For the DoC, please indicate if you are satisfied with this response from the WG. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets-reqs/ -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: A+E todo

2009-06-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
etAttention() could perhaps > be clarified a little > > I'll work on some of those tomorrow, feedback is welcome in the meantime. > > -- > Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ >    Feel like hiring me? Go to http://robineko.com/ > > > > > > > -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#reserved-file-and-folder-names

2009-06-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
t string, or file-name, or folder-name is not reserved for the purpose of this specification. ]] Is that not clear enough? Can you help me make that more clear? Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#reserved-file-and-folder-names

2009-07-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 6/30/09 7:49 PM, timeless wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote: Or use index.html in other directories? Nothing. Treated as an arbitrary file - this was already implied in the spec. To make this explicitly clear, I've added: speaking of which, do

Re: [widgets] Rule for dealing with an invalid Zip archive

2009-07-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
message. The means of notifying the end-user, and the wording of the localized error message, is left to the discretion of implementers. In the case the UA is a CC, it must inform the author that the Zip archive is an invalid Zip archive. ]] Is that any better? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Rule for getting a single attribute value

2009-07-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
lace any sequences of space characters (in any order) with a single U+0020 SPACE character." Functionally, I don't believe this change either algorithm, so this will be treated as an editorial comment. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Rule for Getting Text Content with Normalized White Space

2009-07-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
way than the algorithm > just before it. This would also do well with a consistent style I think. > I tried to make it more consistent with the previous algorithm. Please let me know if it is ok now. If not, please feel free to suggest better wording. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Rule for Getting Text Content

2009-07-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
wed in the process document). If no one implements it, then we will remove it. > textContent is an attribute, not a property. In bindings it might turn into a > property, but that is not relevant I think. > Fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Rule for Identifying the Media Type of an Image

2009-07-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
ear or close enough? > Also, following the definition of file-extension _none_ of the entries in the > table would be matched. I.e. file-extension requires a leading dot. > Fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Rule for Determining if a potential Zip archive is a Zip archive

2009-07-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
2009/6/10 Anne van Kesteren : > I think the first paragraph here can be dropped as you cannot test it. > Optionally you could rephrase it as a non-normative note. > Changed this to a note. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] P&C comments, 8

2009-07-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
used for that > purpose, > specifically because hasFeature() is used in DOM to check for - static IMHO - > existence of some module/functionality/feature, and feature loading that is > meant within P&C is of dynamic nature. > hasFeature was dropped at the F2F. > So I suggest removing that sentence from the note in order not to create a > de-facto standard. Agreed. What do you think of the text above? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

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