Re: [QUAD-L] No Fun Getting Older

[Tim Thompson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13olfeD026g

THE ROLLING STONES LYRICS
"Mother's Little Helper"

What a drag it is getting old
"Kids are different today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she's not really ill
There's a little yellow pill
She goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day
"Things are different today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
Cooking fresh food for a husband's just a drag
So she buys an instant cake and she burns her frozen steak
And goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And two help her on her way, get her through her busy day
Doctor please, some more of these
Outside the door, she took four more
What a drag it is getting old
"Men just aren't the same today"
I hear ev'ry mother say
They just don't appreciate that you get tired
They're so hard to satisfy, You can tranquilize your mind
So go running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And four help you through the night, help to minimize your plight
Doctor please, some more of these
Outside the door, she took four more
What a drag it is getting old
"Life's just much too hard today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
The pusuit of happiness just seems a bore
And if you take more of those, you will get an overdose
No more running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
They just helped you on your way, through your busy dying day
Doctor please, some more of these
Outside the door, she took four more
What a drag it is getting old



On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 4:52 PM,  wrote:

> Greg, I hope your situation improves.  The infection is due to bacteria
> and the lack of acid.  Consider the use of white vinegar soak in cotton
> balls to neutralize the yeast.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> In a message dated 11/12/2015 1:09:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> g...@eskimo.com writes:
>
> I'm falling apart as I'm getting older. Bad hip, bad shoulder, spine
> curving, heavy chest when laying flat, anxiety issues, uncontrollable
> shaking feeling frozen if head not up high enough in bed (even if too hot).
> Just got over a UTI and the antibiotics caused a very painful yeast
> infection in crotch, then yesterday I find out a rash I have is Shingles.
>
> I was spasming so bad last night I new if I was in bed I'd not sleep and
> go stir crazy, so I stayed up in my chair all night. The yeast infection is
> so painful, just toughing anywhere in the area causes spasms so hard, AD
> makes my head feel like it's going to explode. Hopefully 24 houses on meds
> and cream will take some tenderness away tonight.
>
> Greg
>
>


-- 
 Freedom: United States Constitution© 1791 All Rights are not Preserved and
so Far only the 2nd is preserving our LIBERTY! It is under attack, but if
all the Citizens who took the OATH keep their sworn duty we can SAVE our
country OUR constitutional REPUBLIC from THE TYRANNY FROM WITHIN!
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Re: [QUAD-L] TELL CONGRESS: "Open the Government!"

[Tim Thompson]

I agree we need to replace 98% of gov, but the mediA lies to us. Makes
picking  honest people imp.
Obama claimed this had never happened before...
http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/61-of-americans-are-right-wing-nutjobs/
Another lie, Congress faces a tyrannt who rill say anything and he needs to
be stopped,



On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 9:00 PM,  wrote:

> **
> I for one beg to differ.  I have not forgotten January of this year when
> Mr Bohnner stood before tv cameras and proclaimed that his party would
> bring the present administration to its knees.. at any cost.  Granted, it
> taken him and the Party he represents 10 months to achieve his original
> goals. Let us allow this country fall into default and nature take its
> course. Something just have to give, but not the American People. Our
> Congress and Reps continue to live great lives and receiving full pay while
> the contest is being played out  Working out free in their Gym, while
> others suffer.  The game of Chess demands a loser and a winner.  May
> American Citizens Prevail.
>
> Best Wishes
>
>  In a message dated 10/12/2013 8:46:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> stu...@gmail.com writes:
>
>   Hmmm,
> Will Obama "my way or the highway" be back from his $100M vacation to the
> land of his youth be  back before then?
> The R's have offered alt ext in exchange for real negotiations, no default
> as 10% of mo gov rev will cover the loan payments and cutting the expense
> accounts of Congress, the Senate, the Executive branch, and the White house
> (inc THEIR Retirement payments) will keep the rest running, check for
> yourself forget the talking heads (they spend most of their time with their
> heads up their @$$ anyway). The fear mongering is being done by those who
> REFUSE to compromise one inch, it's time we FORCE them to work together.
> Contact your Rep to voice your concerns. I do on a regular basis.
> tnt
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:43 AM,  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Come October 17th.  20% of those richest in this country will not notice
>> anything different.  Come Oct 17th, those State who surviving on the flow
>> of Federal Monies will fall like corn during harvest season. Do you know
>> which states receiving the most Federal Funding???
>> Our Government by Law, must pay our Bond Holders first.  The biggest bond
>> holder presently... is China.
>> I too look forward to a fast resolve and common sense.
>> Best Wishes
>>
>>  In a message dated 10/10/2013 12:08:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> daa...@aol.com writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>  Freedom: United States Constitution© 1791 All Rights are not Preserved
> and so Far only the 2nd is preserving our LIBERTY! It is under attack, but
> if all the Citizens who took the OATH keep their sworn duty we can SAVE our
> country OUR constitutional REPUBLIC from THE TYRANNY FROM WITHIN!
> Are you an internet Litterbug? http://nw-in.com/smartemail.html
>
>


-- 
 Freedom: United States Constitution© 1791 All Rights are not Preserved and
so Far only the 2nd is preserving our LIBERTY! It is under attack, but if
all the Citizens who took the OATH keep their sworn duty we can SAVE our
country OUR constitutional REPUBLIC from THE TYRANNY FROM WITHIN!
Are you an internet Litterbug? http://nw-in.com/smartemail.html

Re: [QUAD-L] TELL CONGRESS: "Open the Government!"

[Tim Thompson]

Hmmm,
Will Obama "my way or the highway" be back from his $100M vacation to the
land of his youth be  back before then?
The R's have offered alt ext in exchange for real negotiations, no default
as 10% of mo gov rev will cover the loan payments and cutting the expense
accounts of Congress, the Senate, the Executive branch, and the White house
(inc THEIR Retirement payments) will keep the rest running, check for
yourself forget the talking heads (they spend most of their time with their
heads up their @$$ anyway). The fear mongering is being done by those who
REFUSE to compromise one inch, it's time we FORCE them to work together.
Contact your Rep to voice your concerns. I do on a regular basis.
tnt


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:43 AM,  wrote:

> **
> Come October 17th.  20% of those richest in this country will not notice
> anything different.  Come Oct 17th, those State who surviving on the flow
> of Federal Monies will fall like corn during harvest season. Do you know
> which states receiving the most Federal Funding???
> Our Government by Law, must pay our Bond Holders first.  The biggest bond
> holder presently... is China.
> I too look forward to a fast resolve and common sense.
> Best Wishes
>
>  In a message dated 10/10/2013 12:08:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> daa...@aol.com writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
 Freedom: United States Constitution© 1791 All Rights are not Preserved and
so Far only the 2nd is preserving our LIBERTY! It is under attack, but if
all the Citizens who took the OATH keep their sworn duty we can SAVE our
country OUR constitutional REPUBLIC from THE TYRANNY FROM WITHIN!
Are you an internet Litterbug? http://nw-in.com/smartemail.html

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie title help

[Tim Thompson]

Do you mean Rory O'Shea Was HereI've got it on DVD, STILL GET A TEAR NEAR
THE END.
TNT


On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:09 PM,  wrote:

> My brain has hit a dead spot, guys, and I need yours. A few years ago
> there was an excellent movie about two young disabled guys. One had
> cerebral palsy and the other could only move one finger. He had blonde
> spiked hair and was the only one who could understand the other guy. I
> think it was an Irish film. The film's name was the same as spiked hair
> guy. This is a very well-known film, but I can't think of it to save my
> life. Help!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *Resent-From:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *From:* bobbie...@aol.com
> *Date:* March 22, 2013, 3:48:12 PM EDT
> *To:* wheelch...@aol.com, Quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* *Re: [QUAD-L] Disability humor*
>
>
> "Please Do Not Disturb Any Further"
>
>
> Smile Everyday
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wheelchair 
> To: bobbie299 ; Quad-list 
> Sent: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 8:44 am
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Disability humor
>
> Yes.  me.  "He Won't Git Fir"
> Best Wishes
>
> In a message dated 3/21/2013 9:27:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> bobbie...@aol.com writes:
>
> Hi   All,
>Anybody ever read John Callahan's   disability comic's? I love his
> humor … got a few of his   books.
> Bobbie
>
>
> Smile Everyday
>
>
>


-- 
 Freedom: United States Constitution© 1791 All Rights are not Preserved and
so Far only the 2nd is preserving our LIBERTY! It is under attack, but if
all the Citizens who took the OATH keep their sworn duty we can SAVE our
country OUR constitutional REPUBLIC from THE TYRANNY FROM WITHIN!
Are you an internet Litterbug? http://nw-in.com/smartemail.html

Re: [QUAD-L] Back Online

[Tim Thompson]

Howdy Dave,
I got my 2 back-ups running, both needed power supplies. I find that it's a
good thing to keep my old babies useable.
Now saving for a KVM switch to hook 2 to my keyboard and monitor. My 1999
model is mostly used for scan/printing and copying CD's. But sometimes used
by others to surf.
stunt

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:56 PM, David K. Kelmer <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi People,
>
> I just got my computer out of the shop so I'm now back on-line.  I would
> have taken it in sooner to be repaired, but I needed a filling replaced, and
> I didn't know how big of of a  bite the dentist would take out of my
> wallet.  The good news is that both my tooth and my computer are fine!  I'm
> catching up on e-mails, but if anyone needs to contact me sooner, feel free
> to e-mail me directly.
>
>  With Love,
>
> CtrlAltDel aka Dave
> C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
> Texas, USA
>
>
>



-- 
"NObama", if elected the far left liberals will have a MONOPOLY eliminating
all our Gov checks and balances. They already control the Legistlative
branch (House and Senate), (and our economey was moving fwd before they took
over). Up untill now, the Executive branch, the White House, has been able
to Veto their attempts to pass their ideologies. By contrast, our choice is
a God loving former POW, who has chosen a Pro-life, gun owning "woman", the
Governer of Alaska, as his running mate.I only ask that you search your soul
before pulling that lever this November.  Freedom: United States
Constitution(c) 1791 All Rights Preserved (so Far)Are you an internet
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Re: [QUAD-L] what kind of mouse do you use

[Tim Thompson]

All you guys need a cat?
5 computers but no mice B^Q
stunt

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Trackball mouse is the only mouse I can use.
> *Naomi*
> C4-incomplete, quadriplegic since July 2005
> due to Transverse Myelitis
>
>
>
>  --
> Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews
> on AOL 
> Autos
> .
>

Re: [QUAD-L] What Keeps You Going?

[Tim Thompson]

All I can say is Amen to that.
What keeps me going?
Wel, guess it's cause I'm still interested in learning,
and.
waking up ;P

tnt

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:53 PM, David K. Kelmer <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> He is not mysterious to me.  I may not understand Him in every instance,
> but that makes it clear to me that He is greater than I.  Someday I too will
> understand it all.
>
> With Love,
>
> CtrlAltDel aka Dave
> C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
> Texas, USA
>
>
> *Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> damn, u have me checkin my replyok, damn, God is easily forgotten,
> don't get me wrong, i love god, but why is he so mysterious?
>
> Eric W Rudd
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* Steve Oldaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2008 5:10 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] What Keeps You Going?
>
> The love God, my family, and my friends!
>
> With Love,
>
> CtrlAltDel aka Dave
> C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
> Texas, USA
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Laughing at your quad-list post

[Tim Thompson]

Sorry but my "loving sister" trashed my garage making it's use impossible if
bad weather had surprised us.
I'm STILL waiting for all her stuff to be removed.
Might have a garage sale ;)
stunt


On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:52 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Hey Stuntman!  Is this in reference to last summer's bbq that never
> happened?  Without properly cooked hot doggies and Mike's lemonaide, I've
> been known to be an extremist "right handed" zealot.  What gives?
>
> Best Wishes
> Fellow Hoosierlander!
>
>  In a message dated 7/28/2008 2:48:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>  Political Correctness (aka "newspeak") is a tool to enforce leftist
> Liberal compliance to "their" ideology.
> Been around a while now.
> Quietly sneaking in while using the media circus to look at a small
> percentage of equaly extremist "Right winged" zealots, blowing up their
> actual influence, in order to keep the sheepeople from noticing what they
> are doing.
> The Big Picture isn't pretty.
> stunt
>
>
>
>
>  --
> Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy
> Football 
> today
> .
>

Re: [QUAD-L] A State Of Mind

[Tim Thompson]

Carefull!
Depending on the outcome of the upcoming elections, decleration as being the
owner of a "STATE" of mindcould lead to property taxes. ;^P
stunt

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Sorry, not even close.  As with a crime there must be two elements
> present to be culpable, even to one degree.  One is the act with the other
> being intent or motive of the act.  Perhaps you have just become to know
> yourself one degree better, hm?  As much as we enjoy drawing on other's
> experiences, you are on your own here.
>
>
>
> Merrill
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Eric W Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:48 PM
> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Court: disability laws protect those unable to
> have sex
>
>
>
> excuse me "I am talking about digital stimulation = sodomy to one degree."
>
>
> Eric W Rudd
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>

[QUAD-L] Laughing at your quad-list post "Heil"

[Tim Thompson]

Political Correctness (aka "newspeak") is a tool to enforce leftist Liberal
compliance to "their" ideology.
Been around a while now.
Quietly sneaking in while using the media circus to look at a small
percentage of equaly extremist "Right winged" zealots, blowing up their
actual influence, in order to keep the sheepeople from noticing what they
are doing.
The Big Picture isn't pretty.
stunt

Re: [QUAD-L] stool softeners

[Tim Thompson]

Cheaper... Sliders eat three, washing down with Dr Pepper, and
G!

stunt

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:35 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  My first thought is have you contacted your primary doctor and advised
> him of your hard stool?  If not, I'd consider calling them and let them
> know.
>
> Also, as suggested by others... fresh fruit and veggies. Consider some of
> those known fiber roughage  in your diet.  Nothing like a teaspoon of cod
> liver oil too.
>
> Best Wishes
>
>  In a message dated 6/3/2008 12:16:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Hoping some of you folks might be able to provide assistance.
> Recently my stools have become very hard.  I currently take
> 2 over-the-counter stool softener capsules the night before
> my routine which  I do every other morning, every other day.
> I also take two senna tablets the night before as well.
>
> But recently, they have become hard.  Any thoughts on what
> to try?
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Paul J. - Healthy 44 year-old c5/6 complete
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence"
> on AOL 
> Food
> .
>

Re: [QUAD-L] TREKINETIC manual chair

[Tim Thompson]

13 year old does wheelchare backflip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5B5iB67Ld0&NR=1
X-treme rolling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NJvgT60-mk&feature=related

Oh to be a Para..
stunt
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 10:42 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey guys check out this all-terrain manual wheelchair:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqIf8OSZerk
>
> To me it kinda looks like a baby carriage but the idea looks promising.
> It's called the TREKINETIC.
> --
> Stay informed, get connected and more with AOL on your 
> phone
> .
>

Re: [QUAD-L] School update: WOO HOO!

[Tim Thompson]

Congrats!
Anything over 3.5 puts you in the top 10% .
Keep up the good work.
Stunt

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Ananda Rose Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I got two A's and a B for last semester and I only have ten more classes to
> complete until I graduate! ! My current GPA:  3.75
>
>
> Ananda
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> http://www.AnandaRose.net  (Come check out my
> new web site!)
>
> http://www.AnandaRoseBennett.com 
>
> http://www.portfolios.com/AnandaRoseBennett
>
> http://www.last.fm/user/shedevil611
>
> http://www.myspace.com/AnandaRose
>
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Speaking of Miracles....

[Tim Thompson]

I personaly know a Vet named John, who was a C5-6 and 10 years post. He is
going through tendon stretching in his hands after a sudden recovery.
His room-mate was smoking and caught his bed on fire.
His screaming woke John out of a deep sleep and before he realized it, he
was standing and beating the flames out in the bed across the room.
True story that happened in Hines VA.
Doctors call him a miracle recovery, as they can't explain it.
Stunt

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:09 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  We have all heard one or two stories but frankly, I have never met a
> single person that regained the ability to walk after more than 1 year of
> paralasis from a traumatic SCI. If it were me, I know I'd be on a tour. I do
> think it is very difficult to tell exactly how damaged a spinal cord is.
> I did meet a guy in rehab that had broken his neck at C-5/6. He could walk
> but had a neurogenic bowel and bladder
> The only ones I have met have been quads that made something of their
> lives. I know this is possible. I know I have wasted a lot of time and
> should have directed my efforts differently. I hope you don't waste
> your time trying to rebuild "Humpty Dumpty". Get a job or start a business.
> Do not wait on BVR to find stuff for you.
> I Wish You the Best,
> john
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:10:37 PM
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Speaking of Miracles
>
> I always like to warn those reading this is a most unique story.  A one of
> a kind. If it inspires just one person, that is still good too.  What makes
> this story so unique is that it rarely happens.  Almost never.  Having said
> that... I'll start with the name of Roy Travis, a Boston College student and
> hockey player.  Cured and Walking ??? No, but good reading.
>
> Another is Garrett Mendez of Conn.
>
> The person who I can never remember when asked is  John Gilpatrick, of
> Suffock, paralyzed and cured.
> His story is a must read as it is so unusual.  A miracle or a lucky roll of
> the dice.  You make the call.
>
> Best Wishes
> W
>
>  In a message dated 5/26/2008 1:04:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>  Does anyone know the name of the quad was the hockey player?  If so
> please send… thanks, Roy
>
>
>
> Roy Abell
>
> President
>
> PIE*Medical Int., Inc.
>
> www.mybowel.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Mark Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 26, 2008 12:37 PM
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* RE: [QUAD-L] Re: Speaking of Miracles
>
>
>
> Thinking back Wheel I do remember reading about this, so yes I guess
> anything is possible.
>
>
>
> Mark Jackson
>
>RollinOn
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:09 PM
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Re: Speaking of Miracles
>
> Regarding the miracle recovery.. No and Yes.  Let me esplane, Lucy.
> The only full recovery was in Boston, a former hockey player, turned Quad,
> after he was hit into the goal net support almost a decade ago.  After being
> deemed an incomplete C4/5, he spent 4-5 years as a Quad in a modified
> electric wheelchair.  He did he rehab at Shepard Hospital, in Atlanta.
> During his 5th year of daily exercise and workouts, he suddenly had a pain
> in the back of his neck and the urge to stand. Short story is 3 monthes
> later, not only was he walking as ABs do but there was no sign of permanent
> damage and he was actually released by his Doctors who are re-evaluating all
> his records.  This young man ended up graduating from Boston College and
> went on to Law School.  He also started a foundation for others with SCI,
> some monies that could be used to cover items not covered by insurance.
> But that is the only story that I'm aware of at all the major rehab centers
> in the USA.
> Best Wishes
>
>
> **
> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence"
> on AOL Food.
> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod000302)
>
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>
>  --
> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence"
> on AOL 
> Food
> .
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] IRS Rebate check

[Tim Thompson]

By the time I'm ready to have my sale, everybody will have blown their
checks.
Need warm DRY weather for at least 2 weeks.

stunt

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 3:33 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>
> The American Way!
>
>
>
>
>
> How to use Your IRS Rebate check...
>
>
>
> As you may have heard, each of us will be getting a tax rebate check to
> stimulate the economy.
>
> If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China. If we
> spend it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs. If we purchase a computer it
> will go to India. If we purchase fruits and vegetables it will go to Mexico,
> Honduras and Guatemala. If we purchase a good car it will go to Japan. If we
> purchase useless stuff it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help the
> American economy.
>
> We need to keep that money here in America. The only way to keep that
> money here at home is to spend it at *yard sales*, since those are the
> only businesses still in the US!
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it
> now.
>
>
>
>
>  --
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> Autos .
>

Re: [QUAD-L] shift happens - Now & in the Future

[Tim Thompson]

You forgot to add that most of those are starving poor, but still popping
out babies.
That growth will happen due to their continued ignorance.
Don't have children when you can't even feed yourself.
It's called common sense and personal responsibility.
2 traits no longer taught.
stunt
But it gets worse, through "Political Correctness" aka "NewSpeak"
Friday, April 18, 2008
To: Friends & Supporters
From: Gary L. Bauer

The Trouble With Hate Crimes Laws
French film star Brigitte Bardot is on trial in France. The prosecution is
seeking a two-month suspended prison sentence and a fine of nearly $24,000.
Her crime -- assaulting a police officer? DUI? Tax evasion? No. She is on
trial for "inciting religious hatred" -- specifically for insulting Muslims
by exercising her freedom of speech. In the past Bardot has complained about
the "Islamisation of France," in a published letter, referring to the
growing Muslim population, "I am fed up with being under the thumb of this
population which is destroying us, destroying our country and imposing its
acts."
I don't often defend celebrities, but Bardot is not just an angry old crank
without a cause. Her cause is freedom. I have written about the Muslim
"youth" who have set Paris ablaze in riots that lasted for days. I have
written about the creeping imposition of Sharia law in England. I have noted
how a judge in Germany (a female judge no less) dismissed a Muslim woman's
domestic violence abuse case because, according to the judge, the Koran
permits the beating of women. Wherever Islam gains a significant foothold,
the dominant culture soon finds itself bending to the will of Allah out of
political correctness, coercion or both—and women often suffer the most.
There is a warning here for men and women of faith and those who cherish
freedom regarding the threat to freedom presented by the nexus of the
radical Left and the sympathizers of Islamofascism. Both are using hate
crimes legislation to silence their critics. Wherever such laws have been
passed, a tyranny of "tolerance" has been imposed upon the people, and
religious liberty and freedom of speech have suffered. We have reported on
religious leaders in Europe who have been harassed by the authorities and
even sentenced to jail for preaching the biblical view of human sexuality.
We have reported on politicians who have been fined for daring to suggest
that traditional marriage and heterosexuality are the norm. We have reported
on columnists who are facing government inquisitions for being critical of
Islam.
Is America destined to suffer the same fate? Will this report be silenced by
similar laws now threatening to send Brigitte Bardot to jail? Will James
Dobson and Rush Limbaugh be forced off the public airwaves? Liberals in
Congress have tried to resurrect the so-called "Fairness Doctrine," and they
tried to attach "hate crimes" legislation to the Defense budget. My friends,
freedom demands eternal vigilance. If men and women of faith disengage from
the public policy process and refuse to participate in the political arena,
America will cease to be a land of liberty and opportunity.
Ronald Reagan once said, "If we forget that we are one nation under God, we
will be a nation gone under." Pope Benedict XVI reminded us this week that
"a democracy without values can lose its very soul." In the struggle to
defend freedom here at home, we must never tire or despair. You can help by
sharing this report with friends and family members. Ask them if they are
registered to vote. If they are not, of if they know others who are not,
direct them to our website, where they can register online. And be certain
to mark your calendars for the 2008 Values Voter Summit, September 12-14 in
Washington, D.C. The Summit is being sponsored by FRC Action, American
Values, Focus on the Family Action and the Alliance Defense Fund. Discounts
are available for early registration. For more information, visit our
website at www.ouramericanvalues.org. It will be a tremendous time that will
leave you encouraged and energized for the battles ahead! I hope to see you
there.

Passover
This weekend, Jews around the world will celebrate Passover, commemorating
the night when the angel of death passed over the houses of the Israelites,
while bringing a terrible judgment upon their enemies. And with the exodus
of the Israelites from Egypt, the Jewish nation was born. Liat Collins,
writing in the Jerusalem Post , offered this stirring explanation of the
holiday: "Passover, Pessah, is the Festival of Freedom - hag haherut. That
we continue to celebrate it after three millennia is perhaps in itself a
miracle. It symbolizes everything we are proud of: survival against the
odds; national identity; and a return to the Promised Land. All the things
for which we have been admired -- and reviled -- over thousands of years.
True, the country is far from perfect. And it exists in a very far from
ideal world. In the spirit of Pessah, however, there is still room for h

Re: Fw: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuntman's Party

[Tim Thompson]

Too early for a party, and I'm swamped with projects until mid June.
So I'll let you know.
Stunt

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM, andrea murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>   *I would like a party too!!!*
>
> *Wheelchair Warrior*
>
> --- On *Sat, 4/19/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuntman's Anniversary
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, April 19, 2008, 9:40 PM
>
>  It sure would fun to have a big party with everyone.
> Dana In a message dated 4/19/2008 6:22:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>  Tim had a party and we weren't invited??
> Best Wishes Tim...the snow has finally melted.
>
> W
>
>  In a message dated 4/19/2008 5:29:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Happy anniversary Tim!  May you have many more and truly enjoy this one.
> Hope you're having a great day.
> Dana
>
>
>
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] Stuntman's Anniversary

[Tim Thompson]

Thanks all,
I was so busy debugging a website I'm building (for a nonprofit group) that
I forgot what day it was ;)
12 years ago today I was in traction with tongs in my skull, being briefed
by a neurosurgeon of my condition and options.
How time flies.
stunt

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:19 AM, David K. Kelmer <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>   Calendar for:   Saturday April 19, 2008   Event: All Day   *Stuntman's
> Anniversary* 
>*   Congratulations my friend! *
> **
> With Love,
>
> CtrlAltDel aka Dave
> C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
> Texas, USA
>
>

[QUAD-L] Howdy all

[Tim Thompson]

Well it hasn't been keeping my mouth shut during this election year that's
kept me from posting, I've been very busy ;)
Computer Graphics Software has really improved and I won Honorable mentions
in 2 seperate contests so far in the last year.
Don't know if the 1st link will work for others
http://www.dream-lounge.com/dreamlight/club/cpg1414/displayimage.php?album=random&cat=10095&pos=-153
But rest are on my host.
http://www.nw-in.com/tnt/alley_confrontation.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/tnt/showdown04.jpg
And some new works:
http://www.nw-in.com/tnt/cyberv-n-bugship.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/tnt/shipwreck-C6-01.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/tnt/tormented-01.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/tnt/did_you_hear_that.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/tnt/Quiting-the-day-job.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/stuntman/images/Perched%20on%20a%20ledge.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/stuntman/images/CG-Grim-1.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/stuntman/images/DM%20Time-03.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/stuntman/images/arcDaz5b.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/stuntman/images/Darkstar-1280x960.jpg

Newest stuff (new software)
http://www.nw-in.com/tnt/test-01.jpg
http://www.nw-in.com/tnt/test-04.jpg
And now I'm learning another super pro software, for entering an
International contest, for which, just successfuly completing a submission
I'll get to keep the non-commercial licensed copy of a $3000 3D
modeling/animation software package.
A heavy workload for the next 2 months, so see you in June.
stunt

Re: [QUAD-L] Flood!

[Tim Thompson]

Need to check surrounding area 1st. Call the local Police or firestation to
find what the roads are like. An escape route into danger might be
worse than staying put. If they know you can't get out, they'll find a way
to come and rescue you before it gets worse.
tnt


On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:59 PM, KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Hurricane girl here - GET OUT before it starts rising.  Otherwise you have
> to stay
> where you are till it is over.
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] My nwe Home

[Tim Thompson]

Glad you're finally in one though.
stunt

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:38 AM, andrea murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> I just move into my new apartment after one year of waiting. I graduated
> from Purdue Calumet last May. I signed up for a new apartment in Valparaiso
> Ind. I was 20 on the list. The apartment was to be done in the summer, then
> they told me in Dec. Guess when I move in last Saturday! I asked to have a
> roll in shower and indoor carpeting. The apartments were finish Jan. It took
> them one month to put in the shower and the indoor carpet. eneryone else
> moved in their apartments, but me.
> So if anyone is looking for an accessible housing.There is no such
> thing! We have to fight for better housing for people with disabilities.
> Wheelchair Warrior
>
> --
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> Search.
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] 64bit speach recognition

[Tim Thompson]

You can get XP 64bit software.
Personally, I don't want VISTA due to all it's incompatability issues with
all kinds of software.
I've got way too much money tied up in Computer graphic software.
stunt

On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Danny Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  I igured I would just ask…. I have a 64bit pc with Microsoft Vista 64bit.
> I cannot find any speech recognition software other than Vistas that will
> run on it. Im stuck using my quadjoy and onscreen keyboard to type. Does
> anyone know of any way to get good speech recognition to work? I asked the
> speech guru's and their answer was a new computer… I have got it working in
> a vmware session with winxp installed but that's such a pain…..
>
>
>
> Danny Espinoza 24/m/California
>
> Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
> engineer
>
> Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2
>
> TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord
>
> off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to
>
> asymmetric SCI"
>
>
>
> http://secureminds.us/
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] A first

[Tim Thompson]

Well I'm glad they came to your rescue. Did you tell them to bill your
agency?
Hope you two called your case workers and reported the agency.
I'd call the newspaper too. That way other agencies might think twice.
Tim

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Ms Linda Ferrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Hey Guys
> This is a first, last night Andrea & myself had to be put to bed by
> firefighters! It was snowing like crazy & our CNA couldn't make it & we
> called the on call Nurse which refused to come over. Then our owner of our
> Nursing Service wouldn't come over to put us in bed, I told her to call 311
> & see if fireman(rescue team) would help us out. We really didn't want to
> sit up in our chairs all night. Shortly they came over & gave us our meds,
> emptied our catheter bags, give us water then used our hoyers to put us in
> bed. They were good guys!
> Lindaf
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: firefighters

[Tim Thompson]

So you're losing your room-mate.
Figures they'd move her in FEBRUARY!
I hope she does have plenty of help.
Good luck.
stunt

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Ms Linda Ferrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Hi Everyone
> Dianna,Yes we have the same Nursing Agency. Yeah we were having too much
> fun! Thank heavens they came to put us in bed. Tomorrow Andrea is moving
> into her brand new apartment. It is in my complex about 2 blocks. I will
> miss her & I am ready to get my stuff all rearranged.
> Lindaf
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Bed on Fire!

[Tim Thompson]

You've swallowed the red pill.
Should have chose the blue one.
FACT: Everything, including breathing the air, drinking the water, eatting
fresh veggies, etc etc are now haz to your health.
It's been that way since they put all that Plutonium into the atmosphere.
FACT: Only 25% of smokers suffer ill effects
FICTION: All doctors say quads should never smoke
FACT: Tobacco is STILL considered a medicinal herb by some Native Americans.
And you with the God complex... "THEN YOU DESERVE TO DIE"
FACT: We all die, but some of us "enjoy" ourselves a little before hand.

But I'm not wanting to live forever

tnt

FACT: You really do have some pent up anger issues.
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *Me against someone WHO can't get in OR OUT of bed themselves and does any
> SELF-Harming or Dangerous acts, NOT to mention  ( STUPID ) has nothing to do
> with me having any anger or  animosity towards anyone. EVERY SINGLE DOCTOR I
> have, has streessed - Quads SHOULD never SMOKE because of loss of
> lung capacity,, nerve and or neuo damages ,, not to mention the list of
> cancers and Emphezema---that cause even more lung and breathing problems.
> ( Lately I been getting Severe A.D.-but I don't dare lay down in bed
> unless my wife or someone is here at home or I would die from it)  but
> if I choose to lay down while she is at work or shopping... then I
> may die in bed, but I know better than take the risk until I'm at least over
> the A.D. or get the root cause under controll.*
> *
> Danny Hearn *
>
> *Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> And people tell me "I'm" not compassionate enough.
>
> You got some severe anger issues that are blinding your judgement.
> The fact is, she dialed 911 DURING A REAL EMERGENCY and was put on
> hold
> Do you hate everybody who smokes just because of your issues?
> Stunt
>
> On Feb 15, 2008 9:50 AM, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > OH WELL--IF YOUR DISABLED AND CAN'T EVEN GET YOURSELF OUT OF BED ON
> > YOUR OWNAND ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO SMOKE, ESPECIALLY ( WHILE IN BED )
> > THEN YOU DESERVE TO DIE @!  SHE STARTED HER OWN
> > FIRE NOT  ANYONE ELSE !
> >
> >
> > *Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> > Aren't people wonderful?
> >
> >
> > http://www.nbc10.com/news/15254544/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=news
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Big Brother

[Tim Thompson]

I watch TLC and the science channel a lot.
Saw a couple episodes of "The Amazing Race" but then thought they picked
people who were more likely to lose than win.
Just my take.
tnt

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:45 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I too watched with interest.. for awhile.  But I realize that its staged
> reality tv.  Often its been taped 6 months before and edited several times
> to get the impact that the producers seek.  I don't always believe what I
> see when I have watched it.
>
> How its Made is also good.
> Best Wishes
>
>  In a message dated 2/20/2008 10:41:26 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> I watch a couple of them Stunt, I like Survivor and The Amazing race.
> The Amazing Race is my favorite one, you actually learn a little about
> different culturals but it's just entertainment like anything else on tv.
> I tell what I've been caught up in lately is a show called "How it's Made"
> I've learned all kinds of info from that show.
> Have you seen it?
> If not check it out, I think you'd like it.
>
>
> Mark Jackson
>
>RollinOn
>
>
>
>
>  --
> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL
> Living.
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Bed on Fire!

[Tim Thompson]

No,
I'm an Independent.
And everybody keeps forgetting when they say 1 out of 4, then 3 out of 4
don't suffer any harmful effects.
Remember when "SEX" didn't come with a lethality stat?
Now "it's" more hazardous than smoking.
Thank goodness I don't have SEX!

Stunt

On Feb 19, 2008 5:30 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Hiya Stuntman!
>
> I keep forgetting that you are a "Smokin Liberal", was a compassion.  Er
> oops, or is that a
> "Smokin Conservative"  I keep forgettin.
> (wink, wink)
> W
>
>  In a message dated 2/19/2008 5:23:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> And people tell me "I'm" not compassionate enough.
>
> You got some severe anger issues that are blinding your judgement.
> The fact is, she dialed 911 DURING A REAL EMERGENCY and was put on
> hold
> Do you hate everybody who smokes just because of your issues?
> Stunt
>
>
>
>
> --
> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL
> Living.
>

Re: [QUAD-L]

[Tim Thompson]

With our "advanced mobility platform" which would be great for hiding
surveillance equipment under peoples noses and scanning, you'd think they'd
be knocking down our doors to be part of "Homeland Security".

stunt

On Feb 13, 2008 12:19 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It amazes me how few people realize FDR was paralyzed from Polio. I feel
> it takes a certain ego to run for public offices that are any size. You
> never see them talk about any of us that do honest work.
> (Like you can't tell I can't connect these two topics.)
> I think finances are getting tough on a lot more folks than me on here.
> I'm glad the guy got a job as mayor but I think we need a concerted push in
> rehab to go back to work and I am so pissed I didn't get a job I wanted at a
> tax place.
> All kinds of places can hire us. We don't need to be the "Owner" or run
> the company.
> Do any of you guys go on job interviews anymore?
> It would be easy to win law suits with these tiny cameras.
>
> - Original Message 
> From: William Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:31:41 PM
> Subject: [QUAD-L]
>
> Right at this moment a show about sam sullivan, quad mayor of vancouver is
> on the doc channel.
> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn 
> more.
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] Bed on Fire!

[Tim Thompson]

And people tell me "I'm" not compassionate enough.

You got some severe anger issues that are blinding your judgement.
The fact is, she dialed 911 DURING A REAL EMERGENCY and was put on hold
Do you hate everybody who smokes just because of your issues?
Stunt

On Feb 15, 2008 9:50 AM, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OH WELL--IF YOUR DISABLED AND CAN'T EVEN GET YOURSELF OUT OF BED ON
> YOUR OWNAND ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO SMOKE, ESPECIALLY ( WHILE IN BED )
> THEN YOU DESERVE TO DIE @!  SHE STARTED HER OWN
> FIRE NOT  ANYONE ELSE !
>
>
> *Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> Aren't people wonderful?
>
>
> http://www.nbc10.com/news/15254544/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=news
>
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Big Brother

[Tim Thompson]

Was there ever a "smart" season for those "not very" reality Shows?
How many members really watch them?
Really, I'm checking to see if I'm "out of the reality" loop on this.
Of course I like Anime, so what do I know.

stunt

On Feb 17, 2008 1:25 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  There are some things that you don't day on Television, Cable or Camera.
> Could you imagine someone saying an equal slur about their mate or spouse,
> just to get a laugh at their expense.  It is not right anywhere.
>
> Best Wishes
>
>  In a message dated 2/17/2008 1:19:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> If anybody saw or watches Big Brother you probably were a little offended
> over one of the guys that works with mentally challenged kids only he called
> them "Retards"!
>
> I don't know if this was a ratings stunt or just an idiot but he explained
> it was ok for "him" to call them retards because of all the work he does
> with them.
>
> So I stopped watching besides it seems like a stupid season for Big
> Brother.
>
> Mark Jackson
> 501-840-2291
>
>
>
>
> --
> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL
> Living.
>

Re: [QUAD-L] How?

[Tim Thompson]

Now if it'll only snow that's real football.
I for one hate the domes and astroturf.
stunt

On Jan 18, 2008 7:40 PM, William Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  The temp for the Packers game is supposed to be 1 degree! How do they do
> it?
>
> --
> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it 
> now!
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty

[Tim Thompson]

The States wshich issue Drivers Licenses ti Illegal Aliens are the only ones
effected.
I'm one who supports our Constitutional Immigration Laws, therefore those
States are in violation.
Illegal Immigrants drain ~25% of the Medicaid/Etc budget.
Remember that next time your services are reduced.
stunt

On Jan 18, 2008 7:34 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Illinois driver's license may not be considered a valid id after May of
> this year according to the FAA.  6 other states are also affected by this
> FAA policy.
> Best Wishes
>
>  In a message dated 1/18/2008 7:16:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Just my two cents.  Hopefully I'm not stroking the fire too much.
> Quadius
>
>
>
>
>  --
> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in 
> shapein
>  the new year.
>

Re: [QUAD-L] is it a tax?

[Tim Thompson]

Canada is socialist.
So is France.
Maybe you're living in the wrong country.
I didn't take the oath just to see commie politics scrap our constitution.
tnt

On Dec 27, 2007 1:48 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Tim,  That is the good news. I will qualify for county aid this year as I
> did last year, but thanks for the actual answer.
> I won't argue with you about politics because it tends to make the list
> difficult for those that need help, or a laugh. I am a socialist and I do
> think those that benefit the most from our system should pay the most to
> make were we live better for everyone, specially the poor.
>
>
> MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR,
> john
> P.S. Maybe you can take your anti-society rant on the road and become the
> new Rush Limpbowel. At least your not a drug addict.
>   - Original Message 
> From: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Quad List 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:28:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] is it a tax?
>
> Got news for you.
> Life isn't fair or free.
> This ISN'T a socialist nation.
> It doesn't sound like your living in a cardboard box or starving.
> In some other countries most of the population does.
> Is life hard?
> Hell yes, but a lot of people "today" have somehow got the idea that it's
> somebodies responsibility to provide for them.
> Guess what?
> It's not.
> I served our country during Nam, and since my accident almost 12 yrs ago,
> the VA has taken good care of me (much better than 8 yrs ago). If I had
> children, they too would be getting healthcare.
> So I'll go along with your thought that every-able bodied citizen should
> have to serve the community in some form for at least 2 yrs.
> The rich already pay over 37% in income taxes (unless you're the klintons
> who somehow mange to pay almost nothing on their
> $ 40,000,000 (don't just take my word for it, check it out yourself)
> The top 10% already pay 90% of the taxes.
> However,
> DRUG COMPANIES, HMO's, and many perscription drug plans are hosing us. I
> have to pay that monthly "drug" fee even though I'm lucky to get my scripts
> from the VA for nothing, so instead of complaining about that mo payment, I
> figure it helps keep other peoples payments lower.
> We lose over 20% of our Medicade dollars to illegal aliens
> The Democrats pushed NAFTA through and gave China most favored trade
> status.
> Guess where our manufacturing base went? Along with the jobs, the tax base
> was loss.
> The Liberals won't let States use Cons for hard labor, we sure could free
> up a lot of tax dollars letting them build roads.
> I've been an INDEPENDENT since 1976.
> I've long held that lawyers being politicians was a monopoly and a
> conflict of interest.
> Ohio has PROBLEMS, been hearing about them for years now.
> Medicaare and Medicaid varies from State to State.
> I know IL gets better services than IN, but I can't see living there just
> because of it. (and I'm ~ 12mi from the state line), can't stand their left
> winged politics.
>
> Being "poor" in the USA is better off than over 1/3rd of the worlds
> population.
> We're far better off than Americans during the great deression OR WWII.
>
> BTW, you ought to check for utility assistence through your County
> trustee, and shop around for a dif drug provider.
>
> TNT
> On Dec 26, 2007 1:20 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  Tim,
> > When I say its a tax, I meant a hidden tax. You can't overtly tax the
> > poor without looking like a heartless boob.  In fact, I did pay taxes before
> > B-b-b-bush. I never had to pay for so many drugs out of my pocket. That is a
> > hidden tax on the poor. I personally payed out over $2,000 on stuff that use
> > to be covered by Medicare or Medicaid oir Waiver, each of these so called
> > safty nets took me a long miserable battle that assured the world I was
> > virtually homeless. If you add up everything they stopped paying for and
> > "PLAN D FROM OUTER SPACE!", then I'm now receiving $2000 less than I got in
> > 2004. And I'm told by my congressman it will be getting worse because they
> > intend to make further cuts in services. That is a %20 tax increase on the
> > poor. At least on this poor it is. Could you imagine the Shyt Fyt all those
> > poor millionaires would throw if they raised their taxes 20%.
> > I do appreciate the Sunday lunch at the church, but it isn't like I can
> > trade it for condom catheters.
> > Another little trick in Ohio...they want my next chair to be a

Re: [QUAD-L] is it a tax?

[Tim Thompson]

xt month. My TV dinners even went up. If you have
> some income, hell, I'm happy for you. With Bush in office, people with lots
> of money have done pretty well. I'm just pissed cause I'm poor and Bush
> gives away more money to the worlds largest corporations than he spends on
> health care and aid for poor. He has done more to help people refinance 1/2
> million dollar homes in 3 months than hes done for children in "no child
> left behind" in the last 6 years. If your a quad that wants to see things
> improve for handicapped people, well, some of the people do get fooled all
> the time.
>
>
> Happy New Year,
> john
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:02:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] is it a tax?
>
> You pay taxes?
> Are you saying before President Bush you didn't pay taxes?
>
> Hate to burst your bubble, but CONGRESS makes the budget and pass the tax
> laws.
> Believe it or not, President Bush wasn't the one in power when the
> DEMOCRATS started taxing Social Security.
> BTW, LBJ opened up Social Security money to pay for his entitlement
> programs.
> It was ALWAYS the Democrats who played with Social Security while playing
> the fear card that Republicans "were" going to cut benefits.
> Personaly, I'm better off now than when Slick Willie was playing games.
>
> Merry frakkin Christmas!
> tnt
>
> On Dec 22, 2007 4:02 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  I just found my anal statement from anal anthem and gosh I got reemed
> > for drugs last year. IV drugs are the ones that go directly into you through
> > a vein. Hangs on a pole and drips. My last few IV's messed up.
> > so just to add this to the what do you have list, I paid $791 and change
> > on medications last year. The longer I am on Med/Med the more I do pay. That
> > stuff use to be covered.
> > I only got $7.10 into the "initial coverage limit" I'll have to pay all
> > of any other drugs I need this year. It will be over $900.
> > Sure wish I could bitch about how bad my taxes are, pft! If it makes
> > your rich friend feel better, let him know that Bush & Co. do tax the poor
> > and when your as poor as me, it hurts a lot worse!
> >
> > john
> >
> > --
> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try
> > it 
> > now.<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ+>
> >
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [QUAD-L] MERRY CHRISTMAS

[Tim Thompson]

http://www.frontiernet.net/~jimdandy/specials/xmas.htm

On Dec 25, 2007 10:49 AM, Ms Linda Ferrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Merry Christmas Everyone!
>

Re: [QUAD-L] is it a tax?

[Tim Thompson]

You pay taxes?
Are you saying before President Bush you didn't pay taxes?

Hate to burst your bubble, but CONGRESS makes the budget and pass the tax
laws.
Believe it or not, President Bush wasn't the one in power when the DEMOCRATS
started taxing Social Security.
BTW, LBJ opened up Social Security money to pay for his entitlement
programs.
It was ALWAYS the Democrats who played with Social Security while playing
the fear card that Republicans "were" going to cut benefits.
Personaly, I'm better off now than when Slick Willie was playing games.

Merry frakkin Christmas!
tnt

On Dec 22, 2007 4:02 PM, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I just found my anal statement from anal anthem and gosh I got reemed for
> drugs last year. IV drugs are the ones that go directly into you through a
> vein. Hangs on a pole and drips. My last few IV's messed up.
> so just to add this to the what do you have list, I paid $791 and change
> on medications last year. The longer I am on Med/Med the more I do pay. That
> stuff use to be covered.
> I only got $7.10 into the "initial coverage limit" I'll have to pay all of
> any other drugs I need this year. It will be over $900.
> Sure wish I could bitch about how bad my taxes are, pft! If it makes
> your rich friend feel better, let him know that Bush & Co. do tax the poor
> and when your as poor as me, it hurts a lot worse!
>
> john
>
> --
> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it
> now.
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Is anyone posting on the quadlist anymore?

[Tim Thompson]

Howdy,

Personaly, I've been so busy that it's been months since I've even opened
this mailbox.
I'm designing a website for a non-profit group, still learning new Graphics
software, and dealing with morning aid MIA and having to rely on a
replacement who never gets here before 10:30AM.
So with only 9hrs to do everything, it seems like I'm always playing
catch-up.
Hope everyone is doing fair to middle-in, and will post again before
Christmas.

Tim Thompson aka stuntman

On Dec 6, 2007 10:24 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Is anyone out there?
>
> I have been trying to subscribe to the quad list as
> I am receiving no postings anymore.  Maybe
> everyone left.
>
> Did everyone go to another site?
>
> Glenn A Henry
>
>
>
>  --
> Check out AOL Money & Finance's list of the hottest 
> products<http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301>and
>  top
> money 
> wasters<http://money.aol.com/top5/general/ways-you-are-wasting-money?NCID=aoltop000302>of
>  2007.
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Test!

[Tim Thompson]

No more tests.
I passed already.
;^P

stunt

On 10/17/07, Bill Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  *You're coming through, Silas.*
> **
> *Bill
> C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
> Age 57
> Leesburg, FL
> Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned.*
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Silas Shelburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:24 PM
> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Test!
>
>  Having trouble sending pictures, just wondering if this email goes
> through.  Thanks Silas
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Brother wants me in a home

[Tim Thompson]

A 4" I beam, 4' long and a little welding drilling
and a boat or 4x4 wench will make do.
;^)
stunt

On 10/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  It's the second time he (older brother) has brought this up in less then
> 4 months. (I'd hate to see what he'll do if his wife or children were like
> this.)
>
> With that said, my folks and myself included no longer want him here. He
> is just so fixed on what others in my family are doing to help. Like God for
> bid he does anymore then someone else in the family...and that to boot was
> rare.
>
> Not to mention my twin just got his schedule changed at his job due to the
> advancement in his position. It put him from night shift to morning shift.
>
> So, now I face a big dilemma in my life because my folks are older and
> cannot do everything for me. i.e.; getting me in and out of bed.
>
> But I've looked around for grants or financial assistants to help me pay
> for a one rail ceiling lift so it would be less stressful on whomever had to
> transfer me.
>
> Any suggestion would help please...
>
> Keith/34/C4-5/NJ
>
> PS. It's crazy to think that I'd be fighting my family to stay in the
> community, but that's my luck. Plus, the PCA availability stinks in my area
> not to mention I just get max 21 hours.
>
>
>
> --
> See what's new at AOL.com and 
> Make
> AOL Your Homepage
> .
>

Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower

[Tim Thompson]

Ha ha,
You need a SHOWER CHAIR.
And no, they're not elec.
stunt



On 9/30/07, Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  The only problem is me and my electric chair together weigh over 400 lbs.
> I have mirrors in my corner shower so I can wheel in at an angle and fix my
> hair and I turn sideways to put on my make-up - I don't think fiberglass or
> pre-fab could hold the weight without it eventually cracking. i'd like to
> pour concrete and have my entire bathroom concrete
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:40 PM
> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower
>
>
> Hey,
> When I was trying to get my roll-in done I discovered a few things. Home
> Depot and Lowes have catalogs with various types of pre-made i believe
> fiberless roll in showers that can be ordered through them.
>
> My x gf had one put one in and it was pretty easy to install. All you do
> is build a stud(2x4) frame the size of the insert and slide the insert in.
>
> One prob was there was still a small lip to get over to get in shower.
> This could be solved by dropping the floor height where the insert is to be
> installed by 3/4 inch then it would be an even entrance pretty much. Just
> make sure you get a big enough shower.
>
> ron c7
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair & snow

[Tim Thompson]

Tell them to shovel ;^P
I never used "special" tires the 4 winters going to college, and very seldom
exp any problems.
Do take the freezing cold in consideration, and Denver is a mi up, so the
air's a bit thinner.
stunt


On 9/30/07, KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This southern girl has a question.  I know that there are special tires
> for taking
> the wheelchair in the sand.  Big bubble looking tires.  But what about
> going out in
> the snow?  My son just sent me pictures from Denver & my daughter lives in
> Lake
> Tahoe - both snowy places.
>
> If I visit either place , is there anything special that I would have to
> do?
>
> KK
>
> Remember: life is like a roll of toilet paper.
> The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes...
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] www.marryourdaughters.com

[Tim Thompson]

At those prices, I'd want a double your money back guarantee!
Wonder how many are scams,
take your money
get married
divorce you and then
take the rest of your money

I'm not interested (and broke) ;^P

Stunt


On 9/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   In a message dated 9/20/2007 8:21:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> You think we can "buy" one to do our cleaning & take care of us instead of
> dealing
> with aides?
>
> Some of the prices sound good.
>
>  Oh, you found it, eh?  It was moved to:  www.marryourdaughter.biz
> after it was featured on tv yesterday.  Since everyone has a different
> look on any issue, I thought to present it for comments.
>
> Best Wishes
>
>
>
>  --
> See what's new at AOL.com and 
> Make
> AOL Your Homepage
> .
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Strange e-mail

[Tim Thompson]

NEVER respond to these phishing scams.
I get at least a doz a day, and have never responded, "BUT" opened one once
(not any attachments).
Ever noticed that "notify me me of reciept" in your email compose menu?
Just opening "ONE" can get you on a spamming email list that these sleazy
bastards sell.
Even my blacklist filter can't overcome their latest illegal weapon,
software they use uses "your" email addy in the from spot, usually with a
bunch of numbers before your name.

Stunt


On 9/11/07, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I was just wondering how many have been sent a strange e-mail like this?
>
>
> OXFAM GB - UK
> 274, Banbury Road,
> Oxford
> OX2 7DZ
>
> Dear Sir/Madam,
>
>   This is to notify you that you have been officially chosen by the Board
> of Trustees of the Oxfam GB (NGO UK) as one of the final Recipients of a
> Cash Grant/Donation for Economic Growth and a Poverty Alleviation Scheme
> Through your email. Oxfam GB (U.K.) a Multi-Million Pounds NGO group was
> established with the Objective Of Human Growth, Educational and Community
> Development. In line with the 61st anniversary program, Oxfam GB (U.K.) in
> conjunction with the European Council is giving out Five Million Pounds
> Sterling as specific Donations/Grants to 10 lucky International recipients
> worldwide in different Categories for Business and Social Development. These
> funds are freely given to you for your Business, Economic And Educational
> Development, as well as the enhancement of the overall standard of living in
> your region..
>
> Your Email was selected based on an internet random Selection Exercise,
> you are therefore confirmed as one of The lucky recipients and are entitled
> to £500,000.00 (FIve THOUSAND POUNDS STERLING) as charity donations/aid
> from the Oxfam GB (UK). Further information on requisites associated with
> the Processing and disbursement of your £500,000.00 grant entitlements,
> alongside the provision of your qualification documentations will be
> dislosed to you by the National Secretary Oxfam GB (UK), Dr.RobertGrayson.
>
> Endeavour to quote your Qualification Number (OG/N231/E101/BDB) as the
> subject of your correspondence with him to facilitate your Grant
> disbursement process.
>
> Dr.Robert Grayson,
> Oxfam GB (UK)
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Claims Requirements:
>
> 1.Name in full--
> 2.Address---
> 3.Nationality---
> 4.Age---
> 5.Occupation
> 6.Phone/Fax-
> 7.Present Country---
> 8.Alternate Email Address---
>
> Please note that these Donations/Grants are administered by a United
> Kingdom Bank and therefore subject to United Kingdom Banking Laws. You are
> by all means advised, To keep this information confidential until you have
> collected your grant. This is a security measure to avoid unwarranted
> attention from the International press, double or unqualified claim.
>
> On behalf of the Board, kindly accept our warmest Congratulations!
>
> Yours faithfully,
> Sir.Graham Mackay
> Programme Manager.
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> 5:43 PM
>
>
>
> Mark Jackson
>
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] cpap masks

[Tim Thompson]

Umm
No,
I won't do it
Arrggg
(holding smartass in check)
Stunt


On 8/23/07, Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Has anyone with sleep apnea used the new CPAP PRO?
> I have a terrible time with the regular masks. I cannot adjust them at
> night because of limited finger movement.
> Thanks,
> Derrick W
> c/5
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: On a "Mission from ADAPT," Disability Activists Blow into the Windy City...

[Tim Thompson]

While I live in Indiana, it's only 30mi to Chicago from here. I've heard the
South Shore now accomidates Wheelchairs, but have yet to test it.
Stunt


On 8/23/07, Michael Norville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  *mE*2*...*
>
>
>
> *Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*> Sent :
> Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:09 AM - To: <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
> *> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Fwd: On a "Mission from ADAPT," Disability
> Activists Blow into the Windy City...*
>
> Me
>
> Eric W Rudd
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> *-Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:
> Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:12 PM - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *; [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *; [EMAIL PROTECTED] * / Subject: [QUAD-L]
> Fwd: On a "Mission from ADAPT," Disability Activists Blow into the Windy
> City...*
>
> How many of you live in the state of Illinois?
> Dana
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] test

[Tim Thompson]

OK,

3

Did I pass?

Stunt

On 8/12/07, c5sci97 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> --
> Eric W Rudd
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [QUAD-L] Font Size

[Tim Thompson]

There is a setting on tool bar for View, click on it, go down to "Text
Size" and click on Largest.
Hope that helps.
Stunt

On 8/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't care what color it is, as long as it is big enough for me to see.
>
> Naomi
> C-4 quad, incomplete since July 2, 2005
> Transverse Myelitis
>
>
> 
> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.

Re: [QUAD-L] Can I use this duck gun?

[Tim Thompson]

Depends on your State.
Some will allow weapons deemed illegal for hunting purposes.
"IF" the hunter is disabled and can argue the real lack of affordable
alternative adapted equipment.
E; crossbows, hunting from vehicles etc.

I want a GE minigun mounted on my wheedlchair for personal protection,
since I can't use a handgun, therby denied exercising IN Constitutions
right to self protection with a firearm.
Wonder if I can get one in .22LR?
;^P
Think I'll pick up a replica (w/electric motor to spin the barrels)
just for laughs.

From the meanstreets of NW Indiana.

TNT

On 7/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Can I use the gun shown on the duck hunting article at
www.bluerockheritage.com?

Glenn A Henry

Washington Boro Society
for Susquehanna River Heritage
P.O.Box 6
Washington Boro, PA 17582

www.bluerockheritage.com



See what's free at AOL.com.

Re: [QUAD-L] Mark E Smith

[Tim Thompson]

The PVA lobbies for research, (the #1 PAC for paralysis) of which I've
participated in a couple of studies as a subject.
Those that work will/have benefits for civilians too.
Stunt

On 7/4/07, C Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I am also a life time member of PVA. They do a lot for the disability
community as a whole , but I have to admit that they tend to concentrate
their efforts more the problems of the veteran ,and theres nothing wrong
with that, that's what they were organized to do.

Cullen
C3
TM 5/7/97
HAVE A GREAT DAY

- Original Message -
From: Tim Thompson
To: RollinOn
Cc: Quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Mark E Smith

Ever heard of the PVA?
They represent all paralyzed Americans on the Hill.
Stunt
PVA Lifetime member

On 6/26/07, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Mark E. Smith has a blog in New Mobility magazine that's always
interesting
> and his last one really got me thinking.
>
>
>
> Life at Large
> The Disability Dollar As A Cash Cow
>
> Jun 25 12:27
>
> By Mark E. Smith
>
> If you have a problem, throw money at it – at least when it comes to
> disability-related politics.
>
> Here we are on the eve of another blockbuster of a campaign season, racing
> toward the nonstop political pandering that is the presidential primaries,
> then the big election of '08. But, for those with disabilities, where are
we
> in the political power struggle – that is, which candidates are looking
out
> for our economic and societal equity, like those looking out for virtually
> every other special-interest group, from tobacco companies to transgender
> constituents?
>
> We are nowhere to be found in the special-interest, cash-fed cow that is
> modern-day politics. We're still rolling around with picket signs, asking
> candidates and elected officials to just do the right thing, when such
> political tactics are, well, passé. What we need is our own formal
advocacy,
> an AARP or NRA, that serves as our collective body, a political machine
> rolling through Capitol Hill, contributing cash, opening doors, shaking
> hands, and getting our agenda on the table. If expensive cigars and
campaign
> contributions serve most other special-interests groups, then that's what
we
> should do, too
>
> But, we're not in the game – namely because we're not willing, as a group,
> to put our campaign contributions where our complaints are. We don't run
> with the PAC, and we're not willing to flex our monetary muscle. And I
don't
> get it. In 2008, clout over who's elected, who's defeated, and which
> legislation is supported will be written on checks during 2007. So why
> aren't we writing checks?
>
> Some will say that we're among the poorest of minority groups, with the
> highest unemployment rate, that we are at an economic disadvantage in the
> political process.
>
> But aren't we also among the largest minority groups, 46-million strong,
> including 12.6-million of us with severe disabilities? Even my poor math
> proves that if 200,000 of us – a fraction of those with disabilities –
kick
> in $10 each, that's $2-million toward a focused special-interest group.
> Trust me, at a $5,000 contribution per candidate and official – which will
> typically get you access and an ear in some capacity – $2-million would go
a
> long way toward the 2008 disability agenda and beyond.
>
> Now, you're probably thinking that all this sounds fine and dandy, but
who's
> going to organize this disability political powerhouse that's going to
> spread goodwill and cash throughout Washington for those with
disabilities?
>
> I say we start by enlisting the help of – and sending our support to –
those
> carrying the picket signs.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Jackson
>
>RollinOn
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 10:07 AM
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Mark E Smith

[Tim Thompson]

Ever heard of the PVA?
They represent all paralyzed Americans on the Hill.
Stunt
PVA Lifetime member

On 6/26/07, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Mark E. Smith has a blog in New Mobility magazine that's always interesting
and his last one really got me thinking.



Life at Large
The Disability Dollar As A Cash Cow

Jun 25 12:27

By Mark E. Smith

If you have a problem, throw money at it – at least when it comes to
disability-related politics.

Here we are on the eve of another blockbuster of a campaign season, racing
toward the nonstop political pandering that is the presidential primaries,
then the big election of '08. But, for those with disabilities, where are we
in the political power struggle – that is, which candidates are looking out
for our economic and societal equity, like those looking out for virtually
every other special-interest group, from tobacco companies to transgender
constituents?

We are nowhere to be found in the special-interest, cash-fed cow that is
modern-day politics. We're still rolling around with picket signs, asking
candidates and elected officials to just do the right thing, when such
political tactics are, well, passé. What we need is our own formal advocacy,
an AARP or NRA, that serves as our collective body, a political machine
rolling through Capitol Hill, contributing cash, opening doors, shaking
hands, and getting our agenda on the table. If expensive cigars and campaign
contributions serve most other special-interests groups, then that's what we
should do, too

But, we're not in the game – namely because we're not willing, as a group,
to put our campaign contributions where our complaints are. We don't run
with the PAC, and we're not willing to flex our monetary muscle. And I don't
get it. In 2008, clout over who's elected, who's defeated, and which
legislation is supported will be written on checks during 2007. So why
aren't we writing checks?

Some will say that we're among the poorest of minority groups, with the
highest unemployment rate, that we are at an economic disadvantage in the
political process.

But aren't we also among the largest minority groups, 46-million strong,
including 12.6-million of us with severe disabilities? Even my poor math
proves that if 200,000 of us – a fraction of those with disabilities – kick
in $10 each, that's $2-million toward a focused special-interest group.
Trust me, at a $5,000 contribution per candidate and official – which will
typically get you access and an ear in some capacity – $2-million would go a
long way toward the 2008 disability agenda and beyond.

Now, you're probably thinking that all this sounds fine and dandy, but who's
going to organize this disability political powerhouse that's going to
spread goodwill and cash throughout Washington for those with disabilities?

I say we start by enlisting the help of – and sending our support to – those
carrying the picket signs.






Mark Jackson

   RollinOn






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10:07 AM

Re: [QUAD-L] NEW CHAIR- Monkey Logic

[Tim Thompson]

Scwartzkoph wanted to take out Sadamned in 91, and just like Patton,
was proved right.
Stunt

On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Given enough time a group of monkeys could have done the same thing, given
enough time.
George Sr. knew what he wanted, did it and left with a record that all
Americans could be proud of.
Desert Storm proved that.  Damage, injury and lives were war manageable.
Made you feel proud to be an American.
Jr, doesn't have his dad's natural talent. He never will.  He got America
into a war that wasn't necessary to achieve our foreign goals.  Granted,
we've gotten oil.  We eliminated Saddam and his sons and some others we
determined were interfering with our goals, but we never got OUR MAN and
after spending hundreds of billions of dollars, we still haven't caught him.
 We have lost our respect from every other country in this world that those
who still tolerate us are the ones we are giving aid to.

I am still amazed that my brother from a different Mother, knows what he
does about what is happening on the front lines, as Washington is finally
admitting that they didn't after all these years.  Bring back Schwartz and
Colin Powell and you will see an ending that is fitting for a 4th of July
Celebration.

As my brother said, War is Hell but it can also be very profitable to
those with connections.
W






In a message dated 5/21/2007 4:56:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Seems those relief supplies were as elusive as the WMD's.
Think it was a bad idea to invade when we did?
Given a few more weeks to prepair, the Iraqi's could have caused more
damage.
His two wack job son's would still be waiting their turn, and we'd be
facing Iraq armed with a nuke.

Stunt
BTW, I'd have to advise that War is Hell, but not fighting one can
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Re: [QUAD-L] NEW CHAIR

[Tim Thompson]

A "Dirty" Bomb is very simple to construct.
The "Islamic Fascists" have been building their brainwashed puppets of
destruction for almost 60yrs.
They've been killin Americans for "OVER" 30rs.
We didn't start WWIII, they did.
tHIS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN iRAQ.
More-over, had we not removed Sadamn from Kuwait, the middle east
would be on fire, the Saudi's would've viewed it as a violation of the
Agreement FDR made with them, and it would have been the end of
Israel.
The big picture isn't pretty, but leaving Iraq with its terrorist
problem would prolong this war, and world wide the US would be viewed
as weak and unwilling to fight.
Stunt

On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Stunt, should you ever want to discuss the complexity of developing a
nuclear bomb program, let me know?
We didn't need to fight Iraq in 1991. We could have made a deal with sadam
to get 7 dollar a barrel oil for 40 years. Instead, we went to war to save a
country that believes Americans are better off dead and giving their money
to them. Why should we get involved in arab problems that freighten our
enemies, (Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia)? Remember all the arab nations that
joined us in pushing out Saddam? They didn't like us, they just hated
Saddam. Now we are teaching arabs how to train competant armies and loosing
soldiers at a rate of 3 a day and a billion dollars a week.
We didn't pay attention to french and british failures in the middle east,
well, we did, but we elected people that failed history or just can't read.
Are American lives worth less if they put on a uniform? Send your answer to
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

john

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 21 May 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] NEW CHAIR

Sorry,
But Sadamned "was" still developing WMD's.
It wasn't untill after he was caught, that the wacky Kadafi quickly
decided to give up (what he claimed) was "his countries" WMD program.
Big surprise was his "Iraqi" scientists. No way in hell Sadamned would
have allowed his scientists to develope a nuke for "another" dictator.
Anyone who doubts this need only look at his history and the facts.
He was paying off Kadafi with money scammed from the "Oil for Food"
instead of feeding the Kurds and Sunni.
The UN was considering lifting restrictions set by the 1991 ceasefire
treaty that Sadamned violated too many times to list. "If" all of
Iraq's WMD's had been destroyed under UN supervision, as per the
treaty "he" signed. then we'd have known exactly what happened.
Instead, all those "so called" relief flights by the Soviets, back and
forth to Syria, are still in question.
Seems those relief supplies were as elusive as the WMD's.
Think it was a bad idea to invade when we did?
Given a few more weeks to prepair, the Iraqi's could have caused more
damage.
His two wack job son's would still be waiting their turn, and we'd be
facing Iraq armed with a nuke.

Stunt
BTW, I'd have to advise that War is Hell, but not fighting one can
lead to a living hell.

On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We had an administration, with the best military, the best international
> intelligence, the world's best
> spy program, bar none, that snookered the world into believing that a
small
> country possessed weapons of mass destruction, against the advise of other
> countries, who said that weapons of mass destruction didn't exist. Years
> later oops and look at the cost of precious lives on both sides, not
to
> mention the money that could have been better spent. Today, we know that
> millions of dollars and it could be billions in green
> American cash has been shipped over and unaccounted for.
>
> Hope it changes, for the sake of my fellow mens and womens
> W
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/19/2007 12:54:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> didn't AL GORE invent SCIs
>
> Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are those who think it's all President Bush's fault that they're
> still quads.
> Facts just tend to get in the way, frustrating them into a tizzy about
> everything.
> Must be a real bummer not being able to shrug it off and LAUGH a little.
> Me? My job is to try to get at least one laugh out of my aids etc each
day.
> Stunt
>
>
>
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] NEW CHAIR

[Tim Thompson]

Sorry,
But Sadamned "was" still developing WMD's.
It wasn't untill after he was caught, that the wacky Kadafi quickly
decided to give up (what he claimed) was "his countries" WMD program.
Big surprise was his "Iraqi" scientists. No way in hell Sadamned would
have allowed his scientists to develope a nuke for "another" dictator.
Anyone who doubts this need only look at his history and the facts.
He was paying off Kadafi with money scammed from the "Oil for Food"
instead of feeding the Kurds and Sunni.
The UN was considering lifting restrictions set by the 1991 ceasefire
treaty that Sadamned violated too many times to list. "If" all of
Iraq's WMD's had been destroyed under UN supervision, as per the
treaty "he" signed. then we'd have known exactly what happened.
Instead, all those "so called" relief flights by the Soviets, back and
forth to Syria, are still in question.
Seems those relief supplies were as elusive as the WMD's.
Think it was a bad idea to invade when we did?
Given a few more weeks to prepair, the Iraqi's could have caused more damage.
His two wack job son's would still be waiting their turn, and we'd be
facing Iraq armed with a nuke.

Stunt
BTW, I'd have to advise that War is Hell, but not fighting one can
lead to a living hell.

On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


We had an administration, with the best military, the best international
intelligence, the world's best
spy program, bar none, that snookered the world into believing that a small
country possessed weapons of mass destruction, against the advise of other
countries, who said that weapons of mass destruction didn't exist.  Years
later oops and look at the cost of precious lives on both sides, not to
mention the money that could have been better spent.  Today, we know that
millions of dollars and it could be billions in green
American cash has been shipped over and unaccounted for.

Hope it changes, for the sake of my fellow mens.... and womens
W



In a message dated 5/19/2007 12:54:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
didn't AL GORE invent SCIs

Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are those who think it's all President Bush's fault that they're
still quads.
Facts just tend to get in the way, frustrating them into a tizzy about
everything.
Must be a real bummer not being able to shrug it off and LAUGH a little.
Me? My job is to try to get at least one laugh out of my aids etc each day.
Stunt





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Re: [QUAD-L] NEW CHAIR

[Tim Thompson]

I "was" joking.

Need some laughs?
http://www.fotoonz.com/FoToonZ/Bent.html

Stunt


On 5/19/07, ~LittleQuad~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

didnt want start political war...just couldnt help myself LOL


"David K. Kelmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, he invented SAD EX-VPs!

~LittleQuad~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
didn't AL GORE invent SCIs

Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are those who think it's all President Bush's fault that they're
still quads.
Facts just tend to get in the way, frustrating them into a tizzy about
everything.
Must be a real bummer not being able to shrug it off and LAUGH a little.
Me? My job is to try to get at least one laugh out of my aids etc each day.
Stunt

On 5/17/07, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:
> not happy person huh?
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I know the answer to this one! CMS has never done anything right. If you
got
> what you neded in a timely mannor it was pure luck. CMS has nothing in
their
> charter that requires they do anything right, or timely.
>
> The only thing that has to happen is political friends get wealthy. Oil
> companies, drug companies, Military arms suppliers must be rolling in
money
> so they in turn donate preposterous sums to politicians. The reason the
IRS
> does taxes for each and every federal politician is so the dummy claims
his
> bribes and doesn't get in trouble. Did anyone notice that oil companies
> didn't have winfall profits untill they took away the tax on winfall
> profits.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Tue, 15 May 2007 4:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] NEW CHAIR
>
>
> But...how long has CMS had to get it right?
>
>
> Eric W Rudd
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:10 PM
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: [QUAD-L] NEW CHAIR
>
>
> Most will be very surprised and disappointed with CMS new procedures to
> prevent fraud. CMS has created 5 groups of acceptable electric
wheelchairs.
> A new chairs have to be designed, engineered and manufactured around these
> new 5 groups. Competitive bidding, in 10 areas of this country. If you are
> a local DME and you try to quote higher than the competitive high you
> lose. This will add to the time of getting a new chair from beginning to
> receipt. As I said, its not very pretty.
> W
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/15/2007 1:21:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Invacare seems to have some good designs but then its like before we can
> have there chair, a bean counter reduces quality of parts and downsizes
the
> batteries. Mine has enough clearance to hold two very large batteries yet
it
> has two tiny batteries and to reduce power and life even more the chair
> comes with gell cels that only put out 50 amps. (100 combined). The motors
> are also downgraded from whats available. I've had luck with the DME. They
> come ASAP and do their best to fix everything as fast as posible. I'm glad
> we have any choice at all. Medicare is trying to get us all to ride in
> Jazzys. This is the wheelchair version of a barbi car.
>
>
> John Smith
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] RE: [scilist] Re Hal

[Tim Thompson]

Hi Joan,
When I got injured 11 yrs ago, my first computer was a MAC SE, with a
whopping 1MB of RAM and a 10MB HD.
Now my video card has ALMOST 50x more RAM than it had (512MB).
Computer Graphics sure takes up a lot of RAM nowdays.
The old MAC drawing program gave me the bug to go to school for CG.
Stunt

On 5/16/07, Joan Anglin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Hi Dana

Go to Smarthome.com and check out HAL-for someone who can use the phone the
system is affordable and works very well I am told. I have a Si-Care so I
have actually not tried its capabilities.

I am sure it is like all voice activated, works great under ideal conditions
J. I love voice activated, but hate the fact that external noises can
completely disrupt the system. However, it sure beats the heck out of having
nothing at all. 16 and half years ago I had nothing at all, except for my
Macintosh (a 128 which we had upgraded to a 526) but luckily it had assisted
devices built in. It allowed me to use a mouth stick and I was able to
resume typing and working on the computer to some extent. Of course, there
was no Internet then. Sure did open the world when the Internet became
available to all of us.

Have a great day Joan


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Re: [QUAD-L] remoteLights

[Tim Thompson]

If you sign up for their news letter, X-10 runs specials all the time.
I've gotten their light and appliance modules at bargain basement
prices, along with wireless cameras and recievers.
Not only can I control lights etc, but I can see who is at the door,
in my front room, or my computer area from bed.
I can also arm an alarm or set my computer and/or VCR to record via
movement in front of one of the cameras. It can also automaticaly dial
several emegency numbers with a message.
All with no monthly fee.
Stunt

On 5/15/07, Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I use a X10 remote with a transmitter and appliance modules.  This may not
be exactly what you're looking for, but it works for me.  In order for me to
turn on my ceiling fan I had to buy a pretty expensive (in my book)
heavy-duty appliance module for your wall switch.
Anyway, here is the information on what I use.
http://www.x10.com/home_automation/home_automation_rca.html?|href:http://www.x10.com/home_automation/home_automation_rca.html
I also have to use a transceiver which can be found at this particular
website.
http://www.x10.com/home_automation/home_automation_rca.html?|href:http://www.x10.com/home_automation/home_automation_rca.html#up1
However, I would do some searching on the web to see if you can find what
you need a little less expensive.  There are several reliable vendors on
eBay that sell many of these components.  Also keep in mind that you don't
need all of them, but you do need at a minimum the remote control,
transceiver, and at least some light or appliance modules to control the
items.
Quadius


On 5/15/07, Mack Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> yeah, I got mine from radio shack to about 8years ago. Yesterday i
upgraded my light to the "Twist Compact Fluorescent Light ". My lightbox and
light switches will not work now. It's fine when I put back the old bulbs.
So I thought I would look for another light system, any help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 15, 2007, at 3:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> Radio Shack.  I've used them for 10 years and turn on lights,
> heat in my workshop, a/c, etc.  You need a heavy duty box for heat
> and a/c.
>
> Glenn A Henry
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] Dizzy Miss Lizzy

[Tim Thompson]

I've been eating 1 row of Hersheys Special Dark every day for years now.
Stunt

On 5/13/07, ~LittleQuad~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

have a candy bar of dark chocolate each day as wellpicked my BP up quick

Re: [QUAD-L] NEW CHAIR

[Tim Thompson]

I was lucky,
The VA let me keep my 8 yr old chair when I got a new one 3 yrs ago.
I've had good luck with Quikee chairs.
Although I had bad luck with quikies before getting injured ;^P
Stunt

On 5/11/07, ~LittleQuad~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

that's how medicaid determines if you get chair before 5 yrs time.like
me, twice. i must be hell on my chairs? they fall apart or parts wear
outhmmm


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My wheelchair person told me that the repairs would have to cost as much as
a new chair, because that is the new rule.

What have others been told about this?  And it all has to happen at once.
That could make you use a chair for many many years.

I hate to think of having my chair another 20 years.  It is three years old
right now, , Permobile chairman 2K.  I think that is the right name.

Dana



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Re: [QUAD-L] Dizzy Miss Lizzy

[Tim Thompson]

Anyone call you dizzy before you became a quad?

My mother use to tell me (when I was a kid) that I'd break my neck if
I kept doing my thing.

Words can be a curse ;^P

Stunt

On 5/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Guys,
  I've been taking Nurotin(sp) for about six months now for nerve pain.
The past week I've been getting dizzy when I turn in bed when getting
dressed, sitting up in bed, reclining in my chair and even if I sit forward
like over a table. Now none of this is every time but it's beginning to
cramp my style. I saw my visiting nurse today BP was 70 over 105 which is
kinda normal for me. She suggested increasing my salt intake like with
Gatorade or potato chips but don't go nuts.
  She left me a phone message so when I got home at 8:30 tonight I called he
and left her this fowling message: "Hi Jinifer, I just wanted to let you
know that I got an extra large jug of Gatorade, drank about half of it then
I ate a salt bagel and a half of a bag of potato chips. I'm just doing what
you told me. Bye"
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Re: [QUAD-L] Texas Hold'em

[Tim Thompson]

Good Luck!

Stunt

On 5/12/07, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Yeah I'm buying and maybe I'll take a trip to Stuntman's bbq and we'll get
whiskey bent and hell bound!

There's still time to qualify if anyone wants to try just sign up and play.




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Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Texas Hold'em





Go get 'em, Mark.   Make them sorry they let a quad into their game.


Are you buying when you win??


Dave














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I was telling everyone not long ago about www.bravotv.com having free
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jackpot for the winner.

Well last night I secured myself a seat at the final tournament by winning a
500 player tournament and won a silver coin from celebrity poker showdown.

Wish me luck at the big tournament!




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   RollinOn







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Re: [QUAD-L] What should I do on my anniversary?-Happy 12

[Tim Thompson]

April seems to have been a popular mo for quad accidents.
Could those spring days be dangerous?
Stunt

On 4/20/07, David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Q,

I hope the rest of your 12th anniversary ended up bring you a good day to
enjoy.  Best wishes for the rest of the year!

With Love,

CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post

Texas, USA


Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My mind is definitely not what it was, so I can't even remember if I
mentioned that I celebrated my 12th on April 5.  Unfortunately I wasn't as
nice as I thought it would be, but I got through it.  In case you're
interested, just click on the following links.
http://quadius.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!745D1B2B2E20FAE1!1704.entry
http://quadius.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!745D1B2B2E20FAE1!1705.entry
Quadius

On 4/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Happy 12 then, Stunt.  Look all that you have done in those 12 years.
Consider all those you have affected during those 12 years.  You have
affected all those around you too.  Keep up the great work and may you
continue to do well.
> W
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/19/2007 4:45:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Actualy I'm 12 today, although it feels like I'm begining to age in dog
years.
> Stunt
>
> On 4/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Wishing you the best Stunt on your 100 birthday.   That's a
century,
> > ain't it?
> > W
>
>
>
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] Wow, Whoda Guessed This ??

[Tim Thompson]

How old are you John?
(just asking due to what it seems you were taught in school.)
Our "Forefathers" are the signers of our Constitution.
They didn't invent slavery, and some had to "compromise" their
personal feelings in order to get all 13 colonies to sign.
Thomas Jefferson went as far as to say he hoped the creator would
forgive them for it. Due to "State Law" he couldn't free his slaves
untill he died. Which he did.
Like most of our Forefathers who owned slaves, he treated them well,
more like family than a possesion.
Are you even aware that it is wrong to judge them according to what
was a common practice "then"?
They made sure the Constitution could be ammended, but that the Bill
of Rights couldn't be. The first ten Amendments are restrictions on
the government.
President Lincoln was the first to violate them. Yet he is considered
to be one of our greatest presidents.
The "Liberal" indoctrination by our public school system since the mid
70's is one of the greatest tragedies of our history. It has robbed 2
generations of an honest education, destroyed our heritage, and
created a flock of sheeple who lack personal responsibility.
The college shooting was a result of this moral vacuum.
When guns could be bought in hardware stores, these tragedies didn't happen.
So it is something else.
Like a lack of respect for human life.
This outcome was debated during Roe vs Wade.
Looks like thev Secular Progressives will never take responsibility
for their failed social experiments.
Stunt

On 4/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The folks that came to Jamestown wanted to get rich. The so called pilgrims
had made themselves entirely unwanted anywhere in europe and they wanted
religious control, not freedom. Our forefathers were far more interested in
money than religion. Thankfully, they made the thingamabob they wrote so it
could be changed. They owned slaves for cryin out loud. They knew it was
wrong.

john

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Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wow, Whoda Guessed This ??


In a message dated 4/16/2007 7:37:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This wasn't my composition, I merely passed it along as it came to me.
I just found it "Interesting" and didn't validity check it at all.
Dave
Is it so strange that our forefathers came to this country for religious
freedom.  Consider that when writing the constitution the writers knew that
their words would be contested in decades to come.  I think they did their
jobs pretty well considering what they were up against

W



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Re: [QUAD-L] What should I do on my anniversary?

[Tim Thompson]

Actualy I'm 12 today, although it feels like I'm begining to age in dog years.
Stunt

On 4/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Wishing you the best Stunt on your 100 birthday.   That's a century,
ain't it?
W





In a message dated 4/18/2007 4:19:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Sorry I'm late,
But hope you celebrated like it was your birthday.
Mine's April 19th
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Re: [QUAD-L] after death

[Tim Thompson]

After JC taught the "civilized" world through example on how to live,
we've been left to live our lives with freedom of choice.
Intervention would prevent that.

The night after my accident, 4/19/96, I laid in bed thinking it would
be a good time to check out.
A voice boomed through my head saying if it had been my time I
wouldn't be lying there.

Now I personaly don't believe in organized religion, however I do
recognize "Christian Values".
IMHO the far Right fails to live by the example JC gave us.
The "Big Bangers" have to keep inventing new theories to fit their
preconcieved notions.
In "Nature" (the physical Universe) one can't create something out of nothing.
Period.
IMHO "The Creator" is an Unknown factor, who began by seperating his
thoughts into energy and matter. As planned, the creation of a
beginning would lead to life, and he created an awful lot of solar
systems and galaxies for it to flourish.
Since "energy" can't be destroyed, then it is likely that our life
force will continue on in some form, somewhere.
However an eternity of singing hymns is probably not what he had in mind ;^)

Don't know what the next life has to offer, but not in a hurry to
unwrap that surprise.
Stunt


On 4/15/07, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Yes Ron I've thought about that very thing and I don't know if there's a God
out there but if we're his children why doesn't he help us or spank the
idiots in charge of this mess.

I just try to live a decent life.




Mark Jackson

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From: RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:35 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] after death




Has anyone considered the thought that after death their is nothing but a
dirt nap? That it doesnt matter what you did or didnt do in life we all end
up the same. That thousands of years ago some smart individual realized that
human beings have to believe in something to go on, and if they think some
higher power is watching over them they might live a better life. And
religion makes it easy to control the masses. Has anyone ever also realized
that the high iq people such as doctors, scientists, and many others mostly
dont believe in god. The lower the iq the greater the belief in god. LoL
just thoughts that run through my mind








Ron c7 9 yrs post



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Re: [QUAD-L] What should I do on my anniversary?

[Tim Thompson]

Sorry I'm late,
But hope you celebrated like it was your birthday.
Mine's April 19th
Stunt


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Hi All,
 My 34th anniversary is April 17th and I want to really celebrate this
year. I need some suggestions. So, any good, crazy, fun idea's?
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Re: [QUAD-L] life begins

[Tim Thompson]

Time for a chill pill.
Mothers and fathers predated lawyers by centuries (or more).
It was LAWS that removed the sanctity we held for "innocent" human life.
Roe VS Wade paved this road with their good intentions.
Try reading some real history and sociology books.
Stunt

On 4/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I believe life begins the moment you can sight it in a 4 power rifle scope.
How can you tell a sperm and an egg joined?
Why are men who father children called dads by lawyers?
Why are women that give birth called mom's by lawyers?
Are babies that develope from IVF damned by god?
Why do people have to interpret the bible after it has been rewritten in
english? Was it done wrong? Does god hate people in wheelchairs? Does god
hate gays? If God hates rich people then why do Americans keep electing
them. I think everyone just picks the part of religion they like and ignores
the rest. If god even gave mankind a second thought he wouldn't have allowed
nuclear bombs to work.
The real problem with stem cell research is if it is allowed then any woman
that wants IVF will get it paid for by the gov't. pretty soon men are not
needed. Most men are bad fathers and woman can do any thing men can when it
comes to work. A 13yld boy with a cup could provide enough sperm for the
next 20 years.
Stem cell research is the next step toward a society that doesn't need men!
Lets face it guys, I'm a quad and women say I'm more fun than most guys. We
are being phased out. Its all a big plot by rosie odonnell so oprah can run
the world.

john

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Six Stem Cell Facts

Angie,
I do respect your opinion, even if I don't agree with it. You at least state
that you define "a life" as having a consciousness. I am not aware if an 8
month old fetus has a consciousness or not but I would consider that stage
of development a life. That is why I define a human life from the point of
conception, joining of a egg and sperm.

You wonder why you shouldn't have the option to use embryos for research
just because you don't consider it a life? You don't see a problem with the
premise of your question? You don't consider it a life so why should anyone
prevent you from taking it to better your life.

At 11:07 AM 4/8/2007, Angie Novak wrote:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course.  But look at some of the
people around, can we really say that all human life is precious?  I can't.
There are just some people living their lives out there walking around and
breathing that don't deserve to be.  However, these are people, not just
50-150 cells that don't have a consciousness, what I consider life.  And
these 50-150 cells are just going to be destroyed anyway.  Why not let them
serve a purpose.

Shouldn't those of us who want a cure to be found, including using embryonic
stem cell research, be able to have that option?  If you don't want to be
treated, potentially cured and able-bodied again someday from what this
research finds, just don't accept that treatment.  Stay trapped in your body
if you'd like.  But don't take that chance for living again, really living,
away from those of us who want a shot at it.  I would gladly donate my eggs
to be fertilized via in vitro, solely for the purpose of being used for
embryonic stem cell research.

CURE not care-
Angie Novak

Dan T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
Human life is sacred and an embryo is the initial stage of life.  I would
like to be up and around and Independent but not at the sacrifice of another
human life.  Dan T.

Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, yes, yes! We must not destroy all those useless fertilized eggs. We
should let them perish on their own and then we should have an elaborate
funeral and bury them in a tiny little plot of earth. AND we must not allow
abortion at ANY cost. Thank you Jesus! Hallelujah!

Dan, who always gives great credence to anything authored by a reverend.

At 06:15 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my
response:



SIX STEM CELL FACTS



The public discussion of human embryo research has too often lacked
intellectual honesty, which has only compounded the confusion of an issue of
great scientific and moral complexity, say Robert P. George professor of
jurisprudence at Princeton University and a member of the President's
Council on Bioethics and Rev. Thomas V. Berg, executive director of the
Westchester Institute for Ethics and the Human Person.

Consequently, there are certain facts on which people on either side of the
moral debate should be able to agree, say George and Berg.  For example:
There is no "ban" on human embryonic stem cell (ESC) research in the United
States; the federal government has funded such research to the tune of $130
million dollars since 2001, and the United States continues to be the
international leader in the field. We are a long way away from therapies
de

Re: [QUAD-L] Six Stem Cell Facts

[Tim Thompson]

Hi Jim,
Those "indoctrinated" by the public school system after the mid 70's
are clueless to the fine distinction concerning "morality".
They grew up in a world of ever increasing encroachments by the left
regarding abortion etc.
A woman socioligist warned of the loss of moral distinctions to future
generations during the Roe vs Wade decision.
She was right.
Stunt

On 4/8/07, Jim Lubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am against the whole IVF process that creates excess embryos to begin
with.

The frozen embryos can continued to be stored indefinitely. What's wrong
with that? Are you concerned about the energy being used to keep them
frozen? The embryos that are unfrozen eventually die a natural death, just
as every other living thing, then cremated. That is quite different then
killing it by removing stem cells to use in someone else. Even organ donors
are declared dead by some standards before there organs are removed. #
S.5—Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2007 doesn't even do that; it just
states that the embryos were in excess of the clinical need of the
individuals seeking such treatment. and would never be implanted in a woman.

I want my spinal cord repaired so I can breathe without a ventilator and
possibly move independently, but I don't want it so badly that I will end
another human life just for the possible improve my own life. I don't
understand how those wanting to use stem cells from embryos can't comprehend
that. An embryo is a human life, and put into the right environment, will
continue to develop and grow. I'm not so self centered that improving my
life should come at the cost of another life.

There are other sources of pluripotent stem cells, sources such as umbilical
chords and amniotic fluid. There is also somatic cell nuclear transfer
(therapeutic cloning) which I don't have a problem with.

On a side note, my cousin just gave birth to a son last week. He was the
result of IVF from her egg and her husband's sperm. They had 8 viable
embryos. The first 7 she did not carry full term. I'm happy for them that
the last one she was able to carry to term and mom and son are doing fine.

Jim


At 08:04 AM 4/8/2007, Dan wrote:
So what do you do with the thousands of excess fertilized eggs that result
from in vitro fertilization? Store them forever? Ban the process? These
excess eggs are thrown into the garbage everyday yet I don't hear anyone
complaining. So what's your answer.

Dan


At 07:50 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my
response:

Glad to see you partly agree with me Dan. (yes I realize you were being
sarcastic) I don't agree with the part about having elaborate funerals and
burying them, but yes we must not destroy unused fertilized eggs created for
IVF treatments.

Using unused embryos is not the same as organ donation because organ donor
are dead before organs are harvested. Removing stem cells from an embryo
kills the embryo.

I've listened to Dr Kerr from Johns Hopkins talk a few times about his
research. http://www.hopkinsneuro.org/tm/
watch his presentation at the 2006 symposium here
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2767307331641285489&hl=en
he mentioned that they want to use the embryos created for IVF that are
deformed (something to that effect) and can not be used for in-vitro
treatment. Now I can go along with using those that could not be used to
result in a pregnancy.

I agree with S. 30: A bill to intensify research to derive human pluripotent
stem cell lines


At 06:35 PM 4/7/2007, Dan wrote:
Yes, yes, yes! We must not destroy all those useless fertilized eggs. We
should let them perish on their own and then we should have an elaborate
funeral and bury them in a tiny little plot of earth. AND we must not allow
abortion at ANY cost. Thank you Jesus! Hallelujah!

Dan, who always gives great credence to anything authored by a reverend.

At 06:15 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my
response:





SIX STEM CELL FACTS





There are non-controversial alternatives worth exploring; such as the
reprogramming of ordinary somatic (body) cells, the derivation of stem cells
from amniotic fluid, and (assuming that it can be shown that the product is
not an embryo), altered nuclear transfer.
Concerns about embryo destruction are not only religious; but merely a
healthy respect for the human capacity for doing evil in pursuit of the
good.
The search for cures is not the only motive behind ESC research,; many
scientists are interested only in enhancing basic scientific knowledge of
such things as cell signaling, tissue growth and early human development.


Source: Robert P. George and Thomas V. Berg, "Six Stem Cell Facts," Wall
Street Journal, March 14, 2007.

For text:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117384191108736444.html


Jim Lubin
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Re: [QUAD-L] TV Shows on Computer

[Tim Thompson]

If you have a GIG of RAM it will handle it easy.
But it's the video card that most people overlook.
My new puter is only about 6mo old, but I just had a new video card put in.
An ATI X1300 SLI with 512 MB of  ddr2 RAM.
Now it flys through graphics programs.
Watch out for the video cards that end with "LE".
They use your system memory which can really slow things down.
The ads will claim 256 MB of video RAM, but the card only has 64MB.
STUNT


On 3/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I asked one of the persons of quad-list a while back if I had enough RAM or
running dragon and he said he yes, but I did not ask him it was enough to
run a TV card.
Does anybody want to let me know how much RAM they use to run a TV card.
Dana




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Re: [QUAD-L] watching DVD on computer

[Tim Thompson]

OK,
Windows or MAC?
VERY GOOD for windows
http://www.erightsoft.net/SUPER.html

Freeware stes
http://www.freeware-guide.com/
http://www.freeware-guide.com/dir/mmedia/videoplayers.html

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/
http://www.download.com/?tag=hd_ts

Stunt

On 3/17/07, Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I need a free program to do this.  Apparently, I 86ed the programs that came
with my computer.  I've got the DVD drive just not the program nor decoder I
guess.

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [QUAD-L] The video many of you sent picts to add

[Tim Thompson]

Kudo's
Was that vid clip in the stairwell you?
Stunt

On 3/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v325456xTPD2rBP

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Re: [QUAD-L] Anyone interested in my video project

[Tim Thompson]

Will put it on my to do list.
CGI OK?
Stunt

On 3/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This should be an easy project for us, I'm going to put a pictorial together
involving our hardships and victories. I need pictures in this fashion.

Hardships
Looking up a staircase or outside building steps
Climbing a staircase 'chair laying down or you grabbing it to take up the
stairs'
Sitting  alone in a crowd
Being fed
Any pictures you consider our hardships

Victories
You playing a sport
Holing your new born
In a fashion Show
Racing
Climbing a mountain
Skiing
At your job
Kissing you lover
Any other pictures you consider victory

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Re: [QUAD-L] Video of the Week

[Tim Thompson]

Today's?
OK,
Not enough time to watch all 25min right now.
Was there something deeper into the video.
That old M J Fox interview from old records of yours?

On 3/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Todays Episode 'Stem Cell Research'

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v302704EAGxbgzC


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Re: [QUAD-L] TV Shows on Computer

[Tim Thompson]

You can set your recording options to fit 4 hrs of quality video on a
DVD, and the single layer discs are only about 25 cents ea when bought
on sale.
Lot cheaper than VHS if you're saving something U want to keep.
If you want to record a lot over and over on a single DVD, Get a DVD
drive that can use DVD RAM, the disk is more expensive, but you can
re-use ~1,000 X.
Stunt

On 3/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I do know that but oftentimes my TV card in bad has been having problems
with stopping and I don't know if that is Dragon.  My card on the other
computer is so much better and does not stop all the time and I can control
better when I'm in my chair.  Do you like house, they are having a special
showing on Friday at seven I noticed on TV.

I just wondered if anyone used DVDs to record instead of VCRs and what kind
is good.  I know that DVDs are expensive compared to videos but so much
smaller.

I'll have to try again to watch on my computer but it is kind of quirky
sometimes, the one in my bedroom, last night I couldn't get the mouse to
work so I could take the extra voice file that I've made by accident on my
users area on my Dragon.  Finally after really lead about six times in the
house was working again.

Like computer was shutting off intermittently but now that has stopped,
which is really weird it was going on for about six months or more and my
brother had not had time to look at, since he had the computer built a
couple years ago.  My friend had it in a new part last summer but it was
still doing it so now they suspected the mother board.  How could it just
stop doing all of a sudden.

Thank you for the information about shows on TV, that is really cool.
Dana



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Re: [QUAD-L] Poll

[Tim Thompson]

C-5/6
Run in with in a mule deer on a mountain road.
Stunt
What I've been up to;
http://forum.daz3d.com/gallery.php?mode=viewgallery&u=99065


On 3/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I would just like to know what caused members of this message board to
become quadriplegics or paraplegics?

I became a quadriplegic due to an illness that affects the spinal cord
(Transverse Myelitis), July 2, 2005

Naomi
C-4 quad since July 2, 2005
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Re: [QUAD-L] my 40th birthday party

[Tim Thompson]

OK,
DAZ Studio is free and they offer a lot of free stuff (models, props
etc) with their "free" membership. You don't need to join the Platinum
Club to get it.
http://www.daz3d.com/
or
http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/software/studio/-/?
They have windows or MAC versions available.
BTW, if you're on dial-up instead of broadband, I could burn a CD or
DVD 4 U, just need to know what kind oc computer U R using.
Free models:
http://telias.free.fr/
http://www.vanishingpoint.biz/freestuff.asp
http://digitalbabes2.com/
http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/polycount3d/Freestuff.htm
http://kemalandsheila.com/index.php
http://www.pretty3d.com/
You'll also need a good paint program.
GIMP is a great freebie
http://www.gimp.org/
Lots of free trial software (but learn the basics with DAZ first, good
forum with free help.
http://downloads.e-frontier.com/us/user/home.php?cat=1349
Stunt

On 3/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

sure ,thanks, i'm c5c6,lol

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] my 40th birthday party

  Congrats,
 Hmmm a fellow X-MEN lover
 Let me guess, C5-6 ???
 Ever considered computer graphics?
 I went to Purdue Calumet for it (after injury C5-6)
 Lots of FREE software available.
 Let me know if you're interested
 Stunt

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[QUAD-L] Re: Warrior Wins Purdue University Focus Award- Mark Zupan Attends

[Tim Thompson]

Opened up today!
Damn, and finally "tomorrow" the service guy will be here to fix my airbed.
If he'd been here last week??
Will be spending the week-end in bed going through computer withdrawls.
Stunt

On 3/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Take Care, Stunt.  Remember your butt.  Its the only one you have and there
is no transplanting of new ones at the present.  Be good to your butt and
your butt will be good to you.
W


In a message dated 3/7/2007 1:37:19 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
GREAT!
Lokk fwd to the details and pics.
I wanted to attend, but it's been very crazy around here. (between
personal and family probs)
My sister joined the titanium plate and pin club (shattered her wrist)
and I spent 2 days sitting wrong in my chair (new aid) which has left
me with a red spot.
Oh well, spring is almost here.
Hope April brings better luck with the showers washing the winter blues
away.
Stunt





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Re: [QUAD-L] Cuff?

[Tim Thompson]

Check out the water line tubing for refrigerators at your local wholesale house.
A whole roll costs just a couple of bucks and you can cut it to custom lengths.
Stunt

On 3/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thank you so much that is where I get my long flexible straws and long rigid
straws that I put together with for rubber tubing for different kinds of
mugs for my chair and for my bed.  I really did never looked under
orthodics.

Dana




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Re: [QUAD-L] VA Hospitals

[Tim Thompson]

I've made that same arguenment for years.
"ALL" gov't employees should have to use VA hosp which would improve
them and save taxpayers billions spent on "special" health care ins
for gov employees.

From the President to postal workers.

Stunt

On 3/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'd like to know why there are no hospitals in Appalachia. Do you get the
same health care a senator or a representative gets? When I lost my
insurance I was no longer welcome at a nearby hospital. Suddenly, mistakes
became the norm'. Complaints about long waits to see a doctor...nobody
listens let alone cares.
If you let your health care insurance laps, what does it cost to get it
back. I've been told I couldn't be hired because it would "upset" there
health care agreement! This is after ADA!
I'm being told there isn't enough money for me to move from this hell hole
to a place that would cost more than $4,000 to make accessible.
Our health care system is broken.
We let drug companies over charge so they can use that money to hire the
best minds in medicine to cure baldness. Drug companies have developed drugs
for problems no human has. If they had a cure for spinal injuries would it
ever be used? It would kill the wheelchair business.
Ultimately, I want my Senator to get the same treatment at the doctors
office that I get. I want them to have to stand in line for a prescription
that was written wrong. When I have to get all my health care at walmart, I
want my senator to be as inconvenienced as I am.
I don't know what Hillary's health care plan is but what we have is a
criminal association of lawyers deciding who gets what according to wealth.
It isn't a coincidence that poor people are 15 times more likely to die of
something entirely curable. And don't even think they get what is fair. A
virus won't care what insurance you have and when the Spanish flu returns,
and you don't get any vaccine any sooner than I will because our system is
so outdated at producing such vaccines we will both be in common graves.
Our system has reached a breaking point at the same time that humanity is
overdue for a catastrophic viral outbreak.
Maybe that is what it will take to get lawyers out of medicine. I really
never heard what Hillary health was back in the 90's because she was trashed
so quickly after saying lawyers were not a necessity in medicine. If I even
thought Hillary would win a national election, you'd all be welcome to throw
darts at me. Whoever gets that job next will have to be eye candy to women.
Universal suffrage and the last 50 years of dumbing America has guaranteed
we won't elect the best person for the job. We will elect the best looking
guy that Madison Ave. tells us to.

john

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Where Is This Minority

[Tim Thompson]

Thanks,
I realize I'm one of the lucky ones, C5-6, and adjusted w/o a pity
party which surprised even me.
Never spent time in a nursing home, but ~ 1.5 yrs off & on in the
beginning in a VA hospital.
Was 43 when injured and in excellent shape "then".
Went to college for 4yrs after my injury to find a new passion in life
(writing and computer graphics, which I'm now almost ready to produce
my first graphic novel).
Family support, although I live alone.
I had a full life before my injury, although it was cut short (my
acting and stunt career) just as I was establishing myself.
But change happens, and our ability to adapt to adversity molds the
new person we become.
Stunt

On 3/3/07, kaye allard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That was fu*&ing awesome, and part of what this group is for.
Cheers to our growth!
This forum does great things for me.

On 3/3/07, Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cool,
> The English language is easily misunderstood, as words have multiple
meanings.
> Context is everything.
> No offense taken.
> Stunt
>
>
> On 3/3/07, Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This subject had reopened a denial since my C/5 injury of mine which has
> > helped me do the best I felt I could.  Discourse is meant to challenge
our
> > beliefs, and this writing assignment succeeded to touch a sensitive
nerve I
> > had felt long gone resolved.  Oops, a little scratch opened a wound
> > obviously I had not resolved.
> >
> > If anyone was offended I deeply apologize.  Thank you forum for allowing
> > something personal to rear its forgotten head to help me to reveal and
> > balance myself for the better of myself here.
> >
> > "Chilled" Merrill
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:13 PM
> > > To: Merrill Burghardt; Quadlist
> > > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Where Is This Minority
> > >
> > > ONE "DEFINES" ONESELF IN MANY WAYS.
> > > Ooops sorry didn't mean to shout.
> > > But it  might be a good idea to take a DEEP breath and chill.
> > > Keep things in the contextual meaning.
> > > By the numbers "we are" a minority.
> > > A vast majority are not "quads".
> > > Not everything is worth taking personaly and an  open "question"
> > > requires an open mind.
> > > Stunt
> > >
> > > On 2/22/07, Merrill Burghardt < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > By being in a wheelchair THIS is to define me? I think not. You
> > > > > > seem to enroll me and many others into something you know
nothing of
> > > us
> > > > > except for being in a wheelchair. We is not us.  As a
quadriplegic,
> > > you
> > > > > have no clue what was or not been stripped of.  I fail to see the
> > > > > commonality.
> > > > >
> > > > > > People might be more alone than they define their groups.  Be it
> > > race,
> > > > > in a wheelchair, I.Q. or a zillion similar traits, we are still
not
> > > > > bonding.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My ambulatory is amongst a minority of physical limitations as
> > > stairs.
> > > > > > Hey, I get a chair which goes up stairs, now what are you going
do
> > > with
> > > > > > me, redefine the minority criteria?  As a quadriplegic, who is
the
> > > > > spokes person here? If it is a need to bond and separate, joining
a
> > > club
> > > > > might serve the need to belong better.  All encompassing
> > > generalizations,
> > > > > especially with people are never right.  It took more than a
defined
> > > > > minority to bring the ADA into being, it took citizens.
> > > > >
> > > > > > And this is how I feel.
> > > > > > Merrill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Tim Thompson [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:12 PM
> > > > > > To: Nichole Rohling; Quadlist
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As quadriplegic, we are a minority within the disabled
community. A
> > > > > > member regardless of any other group we belong(ed) to.
> > > > > > It is a minority which binds us tog

Re: [QUAD-L] Warrior Wins Purdue University Focus Award- Mark Zupan Attends

[Tim Thompson]

GREAT!
Lokk fwd to the details and pics.
I wanted to attend, but it's been very crazy around here. (between
personal and family probs)
My sister joined the titanium plate and pin club (shattered her wrist)
and I spent 2 days sitting wrong in my chair (new aid) which has left
me with a red spot.
Oh well, spring is almost here.
Hope April brings better luck with the showers washing the winter blues away.
Stunt

On 3/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Funny thing happened on the way to Lafayette, Indiana today.  Warrior, was
named winner of a Purdue University, Focus Achievement Award and was
presented it during a special ceremony today.  A bunch of her friends,
associates and teachers went down to Lafayette, to see her receive it.
Upon arrival, we didn't realize that Mark Zupan of "Murderball" was the
keynote speaker of the event.
Kewl Beans!

Warrior, got her picture taken with Mark and I'm sure that she will have it
at her website, and try to post it here for all to see.

Mark has been at Purdue University all week and meeting with the students
while promoting his movie.

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Re: [QUAD-L] VA Hospitals

[Tim Thompson]

Billary will never be President.
She is going into meltdown already at Hollywierd's support for Obama.
Let the record show, "I" didn't start this thread.
Hillary was one of those spitting on us Vietnam era vets.
Stunt

On 3/3/07, Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




But hiring  spiraling down hill mentally challenged relatives continues, the
Bush family legacy actually going back to the "I do not recall president".



Hillary shows just enough of her hand that is required at the time.  Seems
her healthcare proposal on the back shelves in spite of short comings, would
behoove the average American more than the year old pre-emptive Iraqi
invasion plans of our present administration entered office with ?



In spite of all the worst which could happen, Hilary's Stem Cell support
would catapult health cures into the digital age opposed to the medical dark
ages where even Mrs. Regan pleaded to our Republican policy maker.  No
matter how hard Hillary tries, she will always be "the Clintons" and bashed
for it.In its time and in hind sight, healthcare + cures has always been
on the Clintons' agenda with a strong SSI future.



I hope this is appropriate Q-list material, it might get all of us STANDING
in support of Hilary For President in her second term.



A Non-Party Voter,

Merrill



Universal healthcare will be seen shortly regardless of financial or citizen
status.  As a disabled minority member speaking for the vast amount of
health cures through stem cell, isn't that technology so hugely awesome to
offset possible failures?  Simply a medical fact kept in the dark ages.
Pharmaceuticals and healthcare lobbyists like medical care comfortably just
the way it is.  Reminds me when people were afraid computers would take away
jobs.  Hilary wants to take us there (cures through stem cells) as badly as
Kennedy wanted to go to the moon, Bill Clinton to put a computer into every
classroom, save SSI and balance the budget, or George W. B whatever it is.





From: Ken Gardiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 3:05 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VA Hospitals




More of this is what you can expect if Hillary gets her way with universal
government run health care.








On Mar 3, 2007, at 3:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





During the vietnam war it became a habit to undercut vets healthcare so
Washington could make the war seem like it was the fault of a bunch of
privates that we were there at all. We didn't just mistreat the healthy vets
from that war. I think most of us understand that reguardless of how we feel
about the war, our soldiers are doing their duty and should expect our best
efforts when that causes them a disability.


I would like to see them get jobs in Washington DC where nobody gets off
their butts anyway. Loss of memory seems to be a job requirement when doing
paperwork, too. It's a shame we need a war to get a new batch of
bureaucrats, but I've written to encourage hiring disabled vets instead of
mentally challenged relatives.


john


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 4:07 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] VA Hospitals



In a message dated 3/3/2007 3:04:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I'm late in reading this post, but just this week I read that Defense
Secretary Gates has called the Army's treatment and care of its wounded
soldiers at Walter Reed Medical Center as "unacceptable." The Army is taking
this as a very serious matter and heads are already starting to roll. It is
about time the military takes a serious look at their health care and makes
some real changes.


This information has been kept from the soldiers on the front lines too. Can
you imagine the moral of any soldier going into combat knowing that the
cheap contractor is providing those services too?


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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Where Is This Minority

[Tim Thompson]

Cool,
The English language is easily misunderstood, as words have multiple meanings.
Context is everything.
No offense taken.
Stunt

On 3/3/07, Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This subject had reopened a denial since my C/5 injury of mine which has
helped me do the best I felt I could.  Discourse is meant to challenge our
beliefs, and this writing assignment succeeded to touch a sensitive nerve I
had felt long gone resolved.  Oops, a little scratch opened a wound
obviously I had not resolved.

If anyone was offended I deeply apologize.  Thank you forum for allowing
something personal to rear its forgotten head to help me to reveal and
balance myself for the better of myself here.

"Chilled" Merrill



> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:13 PM
> To: Merrill Burghardt; Quadlist
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Where Is This Minority
>
> ONE "DEFINES" ONESELF IN MANY WAYS.
> Ooops sorry didn't mean to shout.
> But it  might be a good idea to take a DEEP breath and chill.
> Keep things in the contextual meaning.
> By the numbers "we are" a minority.
> A vast majority are not "quads".
> Not everything is worth taking personaly and an  open "question"
> requires an open mind.
> Stunt
>
> On 2/22/07, Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > By being in a wheelchair THIS is to define me? I think not. You
> > > > seem to enroll me and many others into something you know nothing of
> us
> > > except for being in a wheelchair. We is not us.  As a quadriplegic,
> you
> > > have no clue what was or not been stripped of.  I fail to see the
> > > commonality.
> > >
> > > > People might be more alone than they define their groups.  Be it
> race,
> > > in a wheelchair, I.Q. or a zillion similar traits, we are still not
> > > bonding.
> > > >
> > > > My ambulatory is amongst a minority of physical limitations as
> stairs.
> > > > Hey, I get a chair which goes up stairs, now what are you going do
> with
> > > > me, redefine the minority criteria?  As a quadriplegic, who is the
> > > spokes person here? If it is a need to bond and separate, joining a
> club
> > > might serve the need to belong better.  All encompassing
> generalizations,
> > > especially with people are never right.  It took more than a defined
> > > minority to bring the ADA into being, it took citizens.
> > >
> > > > And this is how I feel.
> > > > Merrill
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Tim Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:12 PM
> > > > To: Nichole Rohling; Quadlist
> > > > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION
> > > >
> > > > As quadriplegic, we are a minority within the disabled community. A
> > > > member regardless of any other group we belong(ed) to.
> > > > It is a minority which binds us together, regardless of race, creed,
> > > > gender, or monitary class. In a way, we are a minority in which all
> > > > other social barriers are meaningless. The commonality of our
> > > > condition strips away the barriers affecting the temporarily able
> > > > bodied.
> > > > Stunt
> > > >
> > > > On 2/16/07, Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'M WRITING A PAPER IN ETNIC LITERATURE AND ANSWERING THE QUESTION
> CAN
> > > I
> > > > > RELATE TO A GROUP OF MINORITIES.  AT FIRST I BEGAN WRITING NO BUT
> THEN
> > > > MY
> > > > > MIND SAID YES I CAN.   THPOUGHT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW
> > > > OTHERS
> > > > > FELT
> > > > >
> > > > > NICKI
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:56 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes! You are a member of the handicapped community and part of a
> > > > minority
> > > > > that has a small lobby in Washington DC. Most minorities are
> > > majorities
> > > > in
> > > > > comparison to us. We still deserve the same rights as do any other
> > > > minority
> > > > >

Re: [QUAD-L] Where Is This Minority

[Tim Thompson]

Hi Linda,
Been totaly involved in learning new software.
Big learning curve but it will allow me to build a 3D interactive site.
However the forum is up
http://nw-in.com/quads/forum/YaBB.pl
Tim

On 3/3/07, Ms Linda Ferrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Stunt,
Do you still have your website up & running?
Lindaf

Re: [QUAD-L] Where Is This Minority

[Tim Thompson]

ONE "DEFINES" ONESELF IN MANY WAYS.
Ooops sorry didn't mean to shout.
But it  might be a good idea to take a DEEP breath and chill.
Keep things in the contextual meaning.
By the numbers "we are" a minority.
A vast majority are not "quads".
Not everything is worth taking personaly and an  open "question"
requires an open mind.
Stunt

On 2/22/07, Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> > By being in a wheelchair THIS is to define me? I think not. You
> > seem to enroll me and many others into something you know nothing of us
> except for being in a wheelchair. We is not us.  As a quadriplegic, you
> have no clue what was or not been stripped of.  I fail to see the
> commonality.
>
> > People might be more alone than they define their groups.  Be it race,
> in a wheelchair, I.Q. or a zillion similar traits, we are still not
> bonding.
> >
> > My ambulatory is amongst a minority of physical limitations as stairs.
> > Hey, I get a chair which goes up stairs, now what are you going do with
> > me, redefine the minority criteria?  As a quadriplegic, who is the
> spokes person here? If it is a need to bond and separate, joining a club
> might serve the need to belong better.  All encompassing generalizations,
> especially with people are never right.  It took more than a defined
> minority to bring the ADA into being, it took citizens.
>
> > And this is how I feel.
> > Merrill
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:12 PM
> > To: Nichole Rohling; Quadlist
> > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION
> >
> > As quadriplegic, we are a minority within the disabled community. A
> > member regardless of any other group we belong(ed) to.
> > It is a minority which binds us together, regardless of race, creed,
> > gender, or monitary class. In a way, we are a minority in which all
> > other social barriers are meaningless. The commonality of our
> > condition strips away the barriers affecting the temporarily able
> > bodied.
> > Stunt
> >
> > On 2/16/07, Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'M WRITING A PAPER IN ETNIC LITERATURE AND ANSWERING THE QUESTION CAN
> I
> > > RELATE TO A GROUP OF MINORITIES.  AT FIRST I BEGAN WRITING NO BUT THEN
> > MY
> > > MIND SAID YES I CAN.   THPOUGHT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW
> > OTHERS
> > > FELT
> > >
> > > NICKI
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com
> > > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION
> > >
> > > Yes! You are a member of the handicapped community and part of a
> > minority
> > > that has a small lobby in Washington DC. Most minorities are
> majorities
> > in
> > > comparison to us. We still deserve the same rights as do any other
> > minority
> > > but it is important that we chose our fights carefully since many
> people
> > > resent loosing the best parking places to us. I have met people that
> > think
> > > the ADA went way to far and should be stripped or completely killed.
> We
> > are
> > > blamed for high taxes, run away health care costs and ruining the
> public
> > > school system.
> > > Whatever you thought you were before, you are now a liberal, unless
> you
> > got
> > > a huge settlement and now resent paying taxes to support those
> crippled
> > > leeches that are ripping the guts out of our military spending and
> > delaying
> > > the construction of another aircraft carrier just to install curb cuts
> > and
> > > support medicare.
> > > GW Bush wants churches to take over much of the care that is being
> cut.
> > I
> > > went to a Benny Hinn get well or go to hell concert and I must not
> > believe
> > > in God the way I'm suppose to because I'm still numb and in a
> wheelchair
> > and
> > > I've either offended God or sold out to satan.
> > > Since then I joined a church down the street that lets me borrow their
> > van
> > > for doctors appointments if I ask a week in advance and find a driver
> in
> > the
> > > congregation over 23. It was only meant to get people from nursing
> homes
> > to
> > > the church, but I sweet talked them.
> > > Yes, we are a minority.
> > >
> > > john
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> > > Sent: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 8:08 PM
> > > Subject: [QUAD-L] QUESTION
> > >
> > >
> > > DO YOU THINK BY HAVING A SCI MAKES PEOPLE WITH SCI A MINORITY?
> > >
> > > NICKI
> > > 
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> > security
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> > >

Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION

[Tim Thompson]

As quadriplegic, we are a minority within the disabled community. A
member regardless of any other group we belong(ed) to.
It is a minority which binds us together, regardless of race, creed,
gender, or monitary class. In a way, we are a minority in which all
other social barriers are meaningless. The commonality of our
condition strips away the barriers affecting the temporarily able
bodied.
Stunt

On 2/16/07, Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'M WRITING A PAPER IN ETNIC LITERATURE AND ANSWERING THE QUESTION CAN I
RELATE TO A GROUP OF MINORITIES.  AT FIRST I BEGAN WRITING NO BUT THEN MY
MIND SAID YES I CAN.   THPOUGHT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW OTHERS
FELT

NICKI

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] QUESTION

Yes! You are a member of the handicapped community and part of a minority
that has a small lobby in Washington DC. Most minorities are majorities in
comparison to us. We still deserve the same rights as do any other minority
but it is important that we chose our fights carefully since many people
resent loosing the best parking places to us. I have met people that think
the ADA went way to far and should be stripped or completely killed. We are
blamed for high taxes, run away health care costs and ruining the public
school system.
Whatever you thought you were before, you are now a liberal, unless you got
a huge settlement and now resent paying taxes to support those crippled
leeches that are ripping the guts out of our military spending and delaying
the construction of another aircraft carrier just to install curb cuts and
support medicare.
GW Bush wants churches to take over much of the care that is being cut. I
went to a Benny Hinn get well or go to hell concert and I must not believe
in God the way I'm suppose to because I'm still numb and in a wheelchair and
I've either offended God or sold out to satan.
Since then I joined a church down the street that lets me borrow their van
for doctors appointments if I ask a week in advance and find a driver in the
congregation over 23. It was only meant to get people from nursing homes to
the church, but I sweet talked them.
Yes, we are a minority.

john

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 8:08 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] QUESTION


DO YOU THINK BY HAVING A SCI MAKES PEOPLE WITH SCI A MINORITY?

NICKI

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Re: [QUAD-L] introductions

[Tim Thompson]

Welcome back!
Stunt

On 2/10/07, Jessica Ann Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

hi all!

my name is jessica. i'm new to the list -- kinda. i was a subscriber
a few years back but had technical difficulties. s, i'm back! i'm
a c6/c7 quad due to a car accident 7 years ago. i'm 26 years old and
live in maine with my boyfriend and our great dane and 2 kitties.

look fwd to future correspondence!

=jessica

Re: [QUAD-L] Shivering

[Tim Thompson]

Nope!
I won't go there.
You really left yourself open for a mind in the gutter to formulate a
response that might be X rated.

Stunt

On 2/10/07, Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'M THINKING PAIN - EVEN THE PULLING OF A PUBIC HAIR WILL CAUSE ME TO HAVE
CHILLS. MAYBE THE POSITION CAIUSES DISCOMFORT SOMEWHERE RESULTING IN PAIN.
GOOD LUCK TROUBLESHOOTING

- Original Message -
From: Merrill Burghardt
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Shivering



Thanks for the good responses regarding my night long shivering after I have
been in bed a half hour or more.  The hours of shivering are not cold
related, but the ideas of an infection some place are interesting.



As long as I stay sitting the shivers do not begin.  As long as I continue
to stay in bed supine and flat, the shivering will not start again unless I
sit up for several hours.  As directed by several list members I saw a
doctor.  Urine and blood tests were negative.



I have taken to sleeping in my chair sitting, or to sleep in bed at 30
degrees or more to avoid the night long ordeal awake shivering
uncontrollable for fours.  So, still not to rule out an infection yet, but I
am still requesting ideas or someone else who has done this.



The members contributing on this list have more savvy, experience, and
knowledge than most doctors I've worked with in my years as a c/5
quadriplegic.

Re: [QUAD-L] Homeless dumping paraplegic

[Tim Thompson]

Unexcusable!
I'll bet they don't dump illegal immigrant paras...
LA's medical services (including Medicade) is going broke providing
manditory care for illegals. But the Politicaly Correct crowd refuse
to acknowledge the consequences "we" pay for "their" feel good
agenda's.
I've been writing letter after letter, but my Representative is outnumbered.
God help us if billary gets her way.
Health care services will go broke and we'll be left out in the cold.
I for 1 am doing much better service wise now than 6 yrs ago.
Stunt


On 2/10/07, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



This is really cruel!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17062674

Mark Jackson

Re: [QUAD-L] How Do You Read Books?

[Tim Thompson]

Hey,
All you need is the INTERNET!
Read over 10,000 books on line or download  them:

http://books.mirror.org/gb.home.html
http://www.promo.net/pg/
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/11/preserving-public-domain-books.html
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/FreeBooks.html
http://www.kellscraft.com/textcontents.html
http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/title.html

Stunt

On 2/10/07, KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

BOO-HOO!!!  I have a Mac without windows.  Guess I'll just have to wait for
the digital.

KK

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuntman's Birthday?

[Tim Thompson]

Da Bears are a young team fortunetly. This was Grosemans first full
year, hopefully this embarrasement will motivate him into greatness.
The offense needs to learn how to be more agressive, and the Defense
needs more red meat.
Maybe after the hibernation season???
Stunt

On 2/10/07, David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Tim,

You don't have to tell me about trying to get caught-up on e-mails, I'm
lucky to get through 20 a day.  With 6 days to look back on the SB I'd say
the Colts should have been able to score more, but the Bears hung in there
and kept it from being a 'blow-out.'  Ya gotta give 'em that!

With Love,

CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post


Texas, USA


Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks,
I'm way behind on my e-mails, just now recovering from a cath pull induced
UTI.
Looking fwd to "Da Bears" ride the Colts in the Superbow!.
GO BEARS!

Stunt

On 1/29/07, David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Stuntman,
>
> If I recall correctly you have a birthday coming up.  If I'm correct I
want to wish you a very Happy Birthday.  If I'm not I will just wish you a
very Happy Day!
>
> With Love,
>
> CtrlAltDel aka Dave
> C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post
>
>
> Texas, USA
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals that almost killed me!

[Tim Thompson]

PVA provided online AD manual
http://www.pva.org/site/DocServer/AD2.pdf?docID=565

On 2/8/07, Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I was almost killed at our local hospital after recent sugery.
I went in for sugery to remove 2 hemmhroid. 1 bleeding internal and 1
outside
I printed out 5 pages of info on AD and took it with me to the hospiital
because I knew that dysreflexia would happen.
I was to stay overnight because they were to put packing in my rectum to
stop any bleeding. Well when I awoke from the sugery and ate something, my
blood pressure(bp) spiked to 190 over 130. it usually is around 90 over 70.
I showed the nurse the papers about AD and told her that I wanted to see a
doctor. I told her to take the packing out and see if the blood pressure
would drop. This was around 4pm. She called the doctor and he told her to
put me on pills every 15 minutes and IV'ed another blood pressure
medications every 1/2 hour. Plus they gave me morphine and other pain meds
for my headache.
Well, this went on untill 9 pm. My b.p. finally lowered. An emergency room
doc showed up at 9:30pm. [5.5 hours later] He asked, "Why did I think I
needed a doctor". I told him about AD and sked him if he ever treated it
before. He said yes and that is all i remember because i was so drugged up.
So, around 10pm, i felt funny and i asked the nurse to check my bp. She did
and it was 60 over 30. So, they put me on drugs to raise my bp. Around
2:30am, my bp was around normal. They never removed the packing until
sometime after this. Then my bp stayed normal and I went home at 11am.

There is alot more to the story that blows me away on how healthcare
officials do not listen to their patients and they think they know it all. I
had the systoms and causes in black and white. Wow!

Please let me know of any good website links to info about AD. I am making
it a mission that this does not happen to anyone else.

Derrick Winegardner
c/5



- Original Message -
From: RONALD L PRACHT
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:36 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals

Hey yall,

I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With
the grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever
believes anything I say when I go in the hospital.

Ron c7 St Louis




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Re: [QUAD-L] Stuntman's Birthday?

[Tim Thompson]

You mean like this?


On 2/7/07, Bill_J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Dave,
I'm a Lions fan, too.  A friend of mine said "Watch for hell to freeze over.
 You'll know the Lions won the Super Bowl."  LOL

Bill age 56
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
- Original Message -
From: David K. Kelmer
To: Tim Thompson ; Quad List
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuntman's Birthday?


Hi Tim,

Sorry about the 'Bears' loss to the Colts.  I'm a Detroit Lions fan so I'll
lend you our 'Motto' --- "There is ALWAYS next year!  :)  I hope you're
feeling better by now.

With Love,

CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post


Texas, USA


Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks,
I'm way behind on my e-mails, just now recovering from a cath pull induced
UTI.
Looking fwd to "Da Bears" ride the Colts in the Superbow!.
GO BEARS!

Stunt

On 1/29/07, David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Stuntman,
>
> If I recall correctly you have a birthday coming up.  If I'm correct I
want to wish you a very Happy Birthday.  If I'm not I will just wish you a
very Happy Day!
>
> With Love,
>
> CtrlAltDel aka Dave
> C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post
>
>
> Texas, USA
>



<>

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuntman's Birthday?

[Tim Thompson]

Thanks,
I'm way behind on my e-mails, just now recovering from a cath pull induced
UTI.
Looking fwd to "Da Bears" ride the Colts in the Superbow!.
GO BEARS!

Stunt

On 1/29/07, David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Stuntman,

If I recall correctly you have a birthday coming up.  If I'm correct I
want to wish you a very Happy Birthday.  If I'm not I will just wish you a
very Happy Day!

With Love,

CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post


Texas, USA

Re: [QUAD-L] Passing of a good friend

[Tim Thompson]

He was a free spirit.
Sorry to hear he passed on.
I have some pics of him
http://quads.nw-in.com/bbq/andrea-houston-stuntman1.htm
http://quads.nw-in.com/Quad-list/index.html

Stunt

On 12/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Hi Emma,
so sorry for your loss.  I did not know him very well that he did answer
some of my quad list post from time to time.  I did not see a picture in
your e-mail if there was one.  Would you please send again?  He did have a
group of pictures on the web site that Mark had.  I think that side is still
running I have not checked the pictures lately.  I am sure he was a great
guy and a lot of fun to be closer friends with
I think the last time I wrote him was after his last move.  He always
wanted to help any way he could and be a active participant.

Dana

Re: [QUAD-L] Agency Help Over the Holidays

[Tim Thompson]

My aids come 365/356 regardless of holidays.
Indiana
Stunt


On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Hey all,
I rely on agency help for all my care. Of course nobody wants to work on
major holidays like Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's, especially with
the agency. Do any of you use agencies that guarantee coverage or is your
coverage ultimately your responsibility? What do you do when you have
nobody? The holidays are suppose to be happy times but it's tough when you
don't have the help you need.
Sandy

Re: [QUAD-L] caregiver lists

[Tim Thompson]

Depends on your intended goals.
Yahoo lets anyone set up a message board for free.
Stunt

On 11/20/06, Jeffrey Gaede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyone have advice/help for a caregiver list in Oregon?

Jeff

 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Happy Thanksgiving!

[Tim Thompson]

Hope ya'all have a great one, and hope there's something you can feel
thankful for.
Stunt


On 11/22/06, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Just want to wish all my friends here a Happy Thanksgiving and to pray that
nobody has any mishaps on this day, no chair break downs, catheters coming
off lol or any other BS we deal with daily so take that extra pain med and
take it easy friends!


Mark Jackson

Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: A Different Christmas Poem

[Tim Thompson]

GREAT POEM.

My ex-wife and I use to have a housefull during the holidays.
As a Sgt, I always had fellow airmen who were alone over as members of
the family.
Our home cooked meals were better than the chow halls, and our duplex
suddenly felt like a home.

Stunt

On 11/17/06, B. Kimberlin (Quadius) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It is really nice of you to do this.  When I was a young soldier I really
appreciated it when the families took us in for the holiday meals. I still
remember my battalion commander inviting three of his sergeants over to his
family's house for Thanksgiving.  I just happened to be one of those three.
Being alone in the barracks over the holidays is one of the most depressing
time periods I can recall.  This will be my sister-in-law and brothers first
time hosting a holiday meal, so if it goes I might contact MacDill Air Force
Base and see if there are any young soldiers, Marines, or airman that might
be interested in coming out for Christmas.
Quadius


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Beautiful!! I am having 3 young Marines here for Thanksgiving dinner, they
are too far from home to enjoy the holiday with their families. Yes,
remember our young men and women serving our country!
Sandy Stuban
Lieutenant Colonel, Retired
US Army



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Re: [QUAD-L] A.D. - help

[Tim Thompson]

Sounds like some type of bladder trauma.
You might need to switch to an indwelling cath for a while for the
tissue to heal.
AD's can lead to a stroke.
Hope this helps.
Stunt

On 11/15/06, Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi all,

Two nights ago I had my first major AD episode.(i say major because i get
mild AD when i void urine  through my condom catheter  and during bowel
program)


My episode consisted of a major headache, nausea, and blood rush to the
head.
I called my aide and she catheted me and i did my bowel regime.
I am not sure which one helped relieve but it recided.

I got up and felt okay all day. At 1am i have another espisode. My aide came
and catheted me and I felt fine.
I was okay all day again untill i voided some urine at 5:30pm. I had another
major head rush and headache.
It went away after i urinated.

So, i thought i better get checked out at the local "hick" emergency room.
The doctor told me i do not know what we can do about this and he has never
heard of AD. I told them to run a urine and blood test. Every test was
negative.

Now today, i get a head rush and pounding headache everytime i void urine
through condom catheter.
The AD is more intense now -since a major AD - then it usually was the past
10 years when i voided urine.

Does the AD leave a several day hangover of AD?

Like i said the AD sysptoms go away after i void. They do not continue. Even
the major AD episode did not leave the syptoms continue, they just went
away. Except a lingering minor headache.

I never had a major AD so I am not sure  if something is still wrong with me
below my injury or if it is a lingering affect.

Has anyone else had lingering effects after AD?
Does the AD go completely away after you relieve the cause?

Thanks,
Derrick W
c-5, 10 years post

Re: [QUAD-L] Supra Pubic

[Tim Thompson]

Must be an epidemic.
I see mine on the 26th.
Stunt

On 11/13/06, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Quadius,

My problem is the opposite. The new cath slides in real easy but getting the
old one out is the problem. Funny but I'm also seeing my urologist this
month, on the 30th. I too shall report my results.

Dan V


At 01:08 PM 11/13/2006 -0800, B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\) said something that
elicited my response:


Dan,
Over the last six months I have had difficulty getting my catheter into my
super pubic, once I even had to go down to a 20 French for a few weeks.
Right now I am still using a 22 and it does require me to twirl it as well
as putting a little more force behind it than we used to have to use.  I
will be talking with my urologist on the 29th, so perhaps I can get back
with you after that appointment.  I have a cystoscopy scheduled to remove
some of the bladder stones I have developed over the last few years.
Quadius

Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Gang,

I've had a SP for 2 years now. I change the cath (18 French) every 3 weeks.
Lately, it is becoming more and more difficult to remove the old cath. I
always make sure the balloon is completely deflated and If it doesn't slide
out easily, like it used to, I have my aide give it a twirl. Well, last
night nothing worked and my aide was afraid to pull too hard so I said give
it to me and I yanked it out. It bled some but the new one coated with KY
Jelly slipped right in.

My question to you fellow SP users is what do you think is going on? Why is
it getting more and more difficult to remove the old cath and still so easy
to insert the new one?

Dan V





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