[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-21 Thread Nancy Seibel
Nice to hear this, Jay! On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 10:34:06 PM UTC-5, Jay Connolly wrote: > > I use my big Clem L (64cm) as a run-around bike for very local errands. I > absolutely love the bike. It's a joy to ride. > > Jay > > On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 2:56:42 PM UTC-8, Nancy

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-17 Thread Jay Connolly
I use my big Clem L (64cm) as a run-around bike for very local errands. I absolutely love the bike. It's a joy to ride. Jay On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 2:56:42 PM UTC-8, Nancy Seibel wrote: > > Hi, there, I'm seriously thinking of buying a Clem L (I know...that's how > it starts) and

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Masmojo: That's probably a good point to make about the H model, too. My first Clem was a small H , and it was way-more-much stiffer than the 52 L. I don't consider the bit of flex in the L to be a deal breaker, but it's worth noting the difference the H toptube makes in the ride. -- You

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-15 Thread masmojo
One additional sort of comment; in addition to my medium I also have a small that I bought for the family units. While I like the feel of the larger bike, the small one is not nearly as flexy and there are some aspects of it (performance wise) I like better. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-14 Thread Doug H.
To chime in needlessly I will say that I just bought a Clem H and my experience thus far is mixed. I have read Zed Martinez' review and I too am not taking to the Bosco bars as of yet. I say that with the caveat that I haven't ridden it much yet and hope I will grow to like the Bosco

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-14 Thread Nancy Seibel
Correct, Mark! On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 3:23:17 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > $1,300. Crazy deal. But too big for Nancy. > > On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 12:17:55 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> Grant's Bike Of The Week Clem L is $1500 now. I can't believe no one's >>

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-14 Thread Nancy Seibel
I'm sure someone will! The ones I see on sale are the bigger frames. :) On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 12:17:55 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Grant's Bike Of The Week Clem L is $1500 now. I can't believe no one's > snapped it up yet. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-14 Thread Nancy Seibel
Thanks, Jonathan, for the feedback. Appreciate it. On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 9:22:26 AM UTC-5, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I think the Clem L is a unique bike that could easily be taken long > distances. My wife has one and loves it. If you can test ride the bike it > might also be worth

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-14 Thread Nancy Seibel
Thanks, Ash! On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 1:39:51 AM UTC-5, Ash wrote: > > I have a 2017 Appaloosa. Clem L and Appa are similar bikes, IMO. Based > on my experience, I would say it quite suitable for 60-mile rides. It > would NOT be a good choice if speed is what you are going for.

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-13 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
$1,300. Crazy deal. But too big for Nancy. On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 12:17:55 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Grant's Bike Of The Week Clem L is $1500 now. I can't believe no one's > snapped it up yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Grant's Bike Of The Week Clem L is $1500 now. I can't believe no one's snapped it up yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-13 Thread Jonathan D.
I think the Clem L is a unique bike that could easily be taken long distances. My wife has one and loves it. If you can test ride the bike it might also be worth trying a Sam Hillborne. The Sam might be better for 100K rides but both are great bikes. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-12 Thread Ash
I have a 2017 Appaloosa. Clem L and Appa are similar bikes, IMO. Based on my experience, I would say it quite suitable for 60-mile rides. It would NOT be a good choice if speed is what you are going for. Very good choice if enjoying the scenery, being able to carry some stuff for the trip

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-12 Thread Nancy Seibel
Thanks Mark - I enjoyed the review and it's good additional input. On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 6:06:35 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > > A review from Velouria at Lovely Bicycle included this paragraph: > > *In both aesthetics and feel the Clementine reminds me most of a certain > type

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-12 Thread Nancy Seibel
Good points, Tom and true, I have found among different bikes I own/have owned, minimal differences in my speed, though noticeable differences in what I can lift and maneuver readily when that has to be done. I too would say failings in regards to riding are generally my own, not the bike's!

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-12 Thread Nancy Seibel
Thanks for these thoughts! On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 10:21:38 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote: > > I think I have to agree with Joe, I have a Clementine (Clem L) & I have > never had a problem riding it whatever distance, BUT would it be a suitable > choice for 100 miles or multi day ride!?

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-12 Thread Howard Hatten
Nancy I think this link will take you to the brochure Mark was referring to. https://www.flickr.com/photos/136422809@N08/shares/aH750i Howard Livonia Mi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-12 Thread Howard Hatten
CLEM BROCHURE newest.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-12 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
A review from Velouria at Lovely Bicycle included this paragraph: *In both aesthetics and feel the Clementine reminds me most of a certain type of German and Austrian utility bike that had been around for decades through maybe the early 1990s. While clunky in stature and most commonly used as

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-12 Thread Tom Horton
hi nancy, I've ridden those hilly baltimore valleys a good deal, on a custom titanium serotta and on a fendered, touring racked big (68cm) atlantis, and the difference isn't as much as you'd think. last year we encountered some hills in quebec that were defeating my sixtyish band of cyclists

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Nancy Seibel
Thanks, Patrick! This is helpful. On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 12:29:54 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Hey Joe. I’m unsure to whom you are responding, but in the event it is me > and my suggestion to be sure and talk with Grant and Co. at Rivendell, I > may not have been as clear as I

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Nancy Seibel
This is very helpful. Thank you. I really appreciate hearing the pros as well as any cautions about what the Clem L is less well suited for. On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 11:03:33 AM UTC-5, Valerie Yates wrote: > > I didn't mean to delete my last message. It looked like it was posted > twice

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Nancy Seibel
Thanks for this helpful review. Good point about the versatility of Clem L. On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 10:41:37 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > Hi Nancy, > > I have a little Clem H AND Clem L experience as my husband and his mother > have one of each. I've ridden his Clem

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Nancy Seibel
It always is helpful to me to weigh my own experience against others' with a decision like this one. Sometimes going with "you already love it" lands me in the position of buying something I thought would be great...only to realize it didn't live up to expectations! So I'm hoping to moderate

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Nancy Seibel
Thank you! On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 9:54:31 AM UTC-5, Davey Two Shoes wrote: > > The clem is a great bike capable of almost anything but it prefers to be > treated as a diesel engine work horse. I'd look for something more lively > and encouraging for those longer rides. Good luck! --

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Nancy Seibel
On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 7:56:21 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > Nope, I don't own a Clem. Yes, I have wondered the same thing , how > "would" I like it for longer rides ? I don't know , I'm not a fortune > teller. > > > I see absolutely no reason why not. Each and every rider, bike and

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Nancy Seibel
Joe, thanks. It's helpful to hear of your experiences. I knew there would be a variety in the responses! That gives me more to go on as I think this over. On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 9:25:09 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I owned one and loved it, but it wouldn't be my first choice of

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Nancy Seibel
Thanks, Mark! Very helpful to read these experiences and thoughts. I'n not an "A" club rider :) and do own a lighter, drop-bar bike that I'd be keeping. I think the 2 would be good companions. On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 7:47:51 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Hi Nancy. I think your

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Belopsky
As far as your longer rides question - what sort of riding? A long day sight-seeing? Sure, Clem is fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Valerie Yates
I didn't mean to delete my last message. It looked like it was posted twice and I wanted to delete the duplicate. I am going to try and repeat what I said and I'm sorry if that means that people who receive this by email get it twice. I love my Clem H for long, solo rides on uncertain road

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Valerie Yates
I love my Clem for long solo rides, especially when I don't know in advance what the road conditions will be. It feels really fun, secure, and comfortable, the gearing has good range for hills, and the views are amazing with the upright position. Mine has the Sackville BarSack, which is

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Hi Nancy, I have a little Clem H AND Clem L experience as my husband and his mother have one of each. I've ridden his Clem H when my Betty Foy was in the shop for repairs. While I haven't ridden it for 30 milers, I have ridden it up a gigantic hill, which I think was part of your inquiry. My

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-11 Thread Belopsky
Nothing to add other than - My 52cm is great, but I want a Jones or just use my other commuter that isn't being used so it's for sale ;0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh, I missed the last question. Yes, I rode the L and Chev on the same Fatty Rumpkins. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Not life-changingly different, but enough that I think a Cheviot or Appaloosa would be worth the cost difference over a Clem L for the kind of rides she's discussing. I'm not trying to talk down the Clem, I just wanted to give her an honest assessment from my POV because I think that's what

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-10 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
As a counterpoint, I am 5'10" 175, I ride a 52 Clementine and don't notice any more flex than any other bike. I'm not a spinner, but maybe I'm more delicate than you. In terms of bike weight, sure the Clem is heavy, but even with the so so stock tires I would not call it sluggish. Did you run

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

2018-02-10 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi Nancy. I think your initial impressions would carry over into longer, hillier rides for the most part. I have never done a century or a multi day tour on my Clementine, aka Clem L, but I could certainly imagine doing so without any issues. The complete Clems come with a gearing range that