[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

Chocomoose!!! On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote: > [image: 35DF0035-F6A0-49C3-BB9B-463FC58E96E2.jpeg]These are them on my > new to me Saluki. I put them on both bikes. > > On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:09:28 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote: > >> [image:

[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

I actually went the other way, converting from Albatross to Noodles. With the Albas, I had a 12cm stem and bar end shifters (although I think thumbies would be better). They felt very upright for me - hence the move to Noodles - but I can't figure out whether I just didn't take to the

[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up my Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with the Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months back. It seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to

[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback. How much longer depends on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in which case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a shorter stem when moving from drops to albastache. For conventional sweptback

[RBW] Re: FS BQ back issues, Vancouver, local pickup

aw, looks like i'm too late :( if somehow they end up available still i can etransfer you and pick up anytime! On Saturday, 10 July 2021 at 06:36:19 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote: > > Spoken for, thank you >> > > EricF > Vancouver BC > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: FS BQ back issues, Vancouver, local pickup

> Spoken for, thank you > EricF Vancouver BC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar coming back with a new design?

The page didn't give any details, just a statement that it might come back with a new design. On Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 9:02:14 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > The Hunq link doesn't work, at least it doesn't work for me. What are the > geometry changes to the new Hunq? > > On Sun, Jun

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar coming back with a new design?

I hear it will have disc brakes.  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar coming back with a new design?

I’m happy to see it back, but surprised about any geometry changes. I owned one briefly, and the handling was quite majestic. Totally unsuited to the majority of my riding, but a great bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar coming back with a new design?

The Hunq link doesn't work, at least it doesn't work for me. What are the geometry changes to the new Hunq? On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 7:59 AM Alan H wrote: > That went fast! > > Honestly, I wish that they wouldn't change it at all. I love that bike (I > prefer the newer green and cream color

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar coming back with a new design?

That went fast! Honestly, I wish that they wouldn't change it at all. I love that bike (I prefer the newer green and cream color scheme) and would buy one in a heartbeat if I didn't have to spend almost $3000 on the frame and then wait 6 months (or whatever it currently is) for delivery. I

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar coming back with a new design?

I'm curious what happened to the pre-sale plans for Gus. It's still hinted at in the Blahg, but most of it got edited out after a couple days. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar coming back with a new design?

The Gus Boots and its iterations are already slated to be fillet-brazed in places. On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 11:03:18 PM UTC-4, DarinM wrote: > > Looks like it sold fast. Pretty cool that they’re working with Steve Rex > now, it would be awesome to see them start using some fillet brazing on

[RBW] Re: Itto big back rack med.

What Deacon and Drew said. I'll add: if you do cut the struts make sure you file and round the ends to remove the sharp edges. Good luck, Richard On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:50:57 PM UTC-4, drew wrote: > > The only potential issue could be cutting struts to size, which isn't hard > but

[RBW] Re: Itto big back rack med.

The only potential issue could be cutting struts to size, which isn't hard but requires a hacksaw. That part also may be unnecessary on your bike. Otherwise, it's about the most straightforward thing you can do to a bike, especially if you watch the riv installation video. If you don't have

[RBW] Re: Itto big back rack med.

Absolutely! Absolutely not. Grin. That's like asking if it is easy to change a car tire. Can it be done? Yes. Is it fairly simple? It was for my Hunqapillar. Might there be unexpected bumps? Yes. Will they be surmountable? Yes. Can you do it? Of course. Was this helpful? Absolutely! Absolutely

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

ps - I also vote don't push SA saddle all the way back - several of us have bent their rails. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

The greatest setback on any seatpost made is the Nitto S84 lugged steel, which Rivendell sells - 40mm. Possibly can get a slightly better buy from Alex's Cycle in Japan, but haven't done XE stuff lately. --

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

I tried the VO post once but returned it. The clamp seems oddly short/small to me and I don't think that's a good thing long term. Plus, the setback is 30mm, that's not alot more than a typical 25mm. If you are darn sure you only need 5mm then go for it or the Dia-Compe Gran Compe one that has

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

Velo Boreange?! As Garth said, nitto S-84 seatpost is the way to go, shimmed. Not only does it have mega setback, but it'll add a lug to your lug hungry Clem. My Clem loves it's classy 84, and it's feathery steel! Might be cheap from Alex Cycles, but better bought from your guy in Walnut Creek.

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

+1 on the VO for lots of setback. It's pricey, but oh so shiny. On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 12:21:44 PM UTC-7, Austin B wrote: > > Velo Orange makes are large setback post with 30.2mm of setback: >

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

Velo Orange makes are large setback post with 30.2mm of setback: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/seatposts/vo-grand-cru-seat-post-long-setback-1668.html It's a 27.2 diameter so you'd still need the shim. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

Hi Davey, I needed a lot of setback so I bought a setback post with 26mm setback. At the same time I purchased a different saddle because my sit bones didn't like the c17. I purchased a Ergon saddle and noticed it had 14mm longer rails. They make a ton of saddles too many IMO but you might

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

If you really like that particular saddle and/or style, I'd try the shim and a Nitto s-84 seatpost , although it will look kinda odd as it the shim has a lip on it so it won't be flush since Riv seat clusters are curled up to a point. If you're handy with a file or dremel of you could file

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

Exactly. A seat post shim from problem solvers solves the problem. I took a file to mine to follow the curve, but I didn't need to. I researched my options in a seatpost and none had any setback like I wanted, and having a selection of 27.2's at my disposal this seemed the best option. Time has

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

Have you considered getting a 29.8 -> 27.2 seat post shim? Problem Solvers and Cane Creek both have that size, and there's a large selection of set back seat posts with a 27.2 diameter. I use a Cane Creek shim on a 31.6 -> 27.2 conversion, and have had no issues with slippage even at my svelte

[RBW] Re: seatpost/set back help

Been there and done that on a 26.8. Couldn't find anything to use and I use a Brooks saddle too. The Anatomicas do have longer rails but the saddles don't cut it for me. That said, if you are interested in buying one, contact me offline as I have several I could sell. On Monday, June 26,

[RBW] Re: FS Ortlieb Back-Roller Classic Panniers - Pair yellow

Ortliebs are sold On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 11:38:59 AM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote: > > FS Ortlieb Back-Roller Classic Panniers - Pair yellow very little use and > in great condition. No rips or tears or big marks. Just a few scuffs here > and there. $90 plus shipping CONUS. > > Thanks, >

[RBW] Re: I am back

Welcome back Compton! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 8:32:56 PM UTC-6, Don Compton wrote: I have made some impulsive mistakes in my life, thank God none have been life threatening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: I am back

Chris, I remember when you had this butterscotch Hilsen. God, it was a beautiful bike. Don On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote: Great news, Don! I think I know a little about how you feel. I'm riding around on my recovery A. Homer Hilsen...after foolishly selling

[RBW] Re: I am back

Deacon, Long story. After years of enjoying Brooks saddles, the hump that develops after longterm, my nether regions just couldn't stand it anymore. I have short femurs and I couldn't find another saddle that would work on my Roadeo. Well, the latest Selle Anatomica allows me to get the saddle

[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!

The mythical Hippocuppus! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!

Perhaps elusive, but not mythical, I've seen the photos! John On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 3:42:26 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: The mythical Hippocuppus! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!

'Hippocuppus' = brilliant! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!

Maybe that's the source of my memory problem -- I got a Hippocuppus rather than a hippocampus. Sardonic grin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!

I thought you might appreciate that little neuro-pun. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 7:22:57 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Maybe that's the source of my memory problem -- I got a Hippocuppus rather than a hippocampus. Sardonic grin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!

Even the gapses in my synapses had fun! Thanks. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 7:30:25 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote: I thought you might appreciate that little neuro-pun. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 7:22:57 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Maybe that's the source of my memory

[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!

I'll drink to that! On Monday, July 7, 2014 5:02:42 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: For those that contacted me from the list, I have completed another small batch of ACW mugs for the store. This time NOS from Poland! New buttons too. Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!

Great mugs! Here's what happened to one of my new Hilsen blue beauties: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14394798499/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Out 'n' back!

I hope you said Howdy, mister! to John Wayne out Rio Bravo way. Grin. Sounds like a great ride ... pilgrim. I attempted to make it out of town, but I was too late and the throngs of tourists in town for the 10 day art show and their perfume and laundry detergent and other scented accoutrements

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

YOUR MOVE HUGH On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote: As much as I love Vangroovy, we can't touch PDX for beer. Or donuts. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:50:21 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Yeah Chris I'll go and buy where ever I feel like buying to

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Thank you Cocochen. Offer on next door unit has been accepted. YOU MOVING NOW CHRIS! Get ready to boogie. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Christopher

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Y'all are adorable. On Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:30:22 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Thank you Cocochen. Offer on next door unit has been accepted. YOU MOVING NOW CHRIS! Get ready to boogie. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Cecily, Keeping it fresh. Humor is mandatory for sanity. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote: Y'all are

[RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Lovely photos, Hugh. I really envy you California Rivsters. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 10:02:24 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Some thoughts and pictures here http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

About August I'll be envying you B.C. Riv folk. And the offer is open and for real, can save on $. Peace, ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Cecily

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

C'mon up! August is glorious here. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:20:29 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: About August I'll be envying you B.C. Riv folk. And the offer is open and for real, can save on $. Peace, ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Cecily, Planning on a Summer trip June 27th through July 16th and was planning on these destinations, Siskiyou Wilderness, PDX and Bay Area for the Riv rally. I wasn't planning on going that far North on this vacation but then things change. -Hugh On Feb 12, 2014 12:42 PM, Cecily Walker

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

It's a big planet out there, and once you adapt to living out of panniers, freedom expands to consume the available funds. A lot can change, and 2 or 3 weeks of vacation time becomes a serious constraint. dougP On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:50:56 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Cecily,

[RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Hugh, you forgot the toot toot toot lookin' . part. ( CCR ref) As always your photos are well composed and meaningful. Having spent my whole adult life not far from there it makes me miss the fall/winter/spring rides in the San Gabriel's even more. But when I remember summer I know why

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Say's the retired guy :-) ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:59 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: It's a big planet out there, and once you adapt to living

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Mike, Thanks for the compliment. Yeah Summer is ah sweltering. My mind is already working on a slew of Summer location rides between August through early November. Either high up or coastal. We work with what we have. I'm not complaining till late August. I've got a doosy S240 location planned

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

You can visit so long as you sign a contract not to purchase real property north of Yuba City. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Thanks for the compliment. Yeah Summer is ah sweltering. My mind is already working on a slew of Summer location

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

...and south of Prince Rupert. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: You can visit so long as you sign a contract not to purchase real property north of Yuba City. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote: Mike, Thanks

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Yeah Chris I'll go and buy where ever I feel like buying to include a unit next door to you and party 24/7. And whether to visit ? PDX hasn't won that bid just yet. You folks will need to do better Seattle and Vancouver may get my patronage ;-) I'll give you PDXers a little slack as you just

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

OH THE BURN On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Right. You saw the pictures and are chillingly jealous. Don't worry Chris warm 80's are right around the corner... err sorry five months around the corner. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

You need to start using sunscreen Cocochen to prevent that burn. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: OH THE BURN

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

May I also suggest Aloe vera for that singe. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: You need to start using

[RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Hugh, you must be thinking of Romero Saddle to the famous Hot Springs? I've been trying hard not to brag to the PDX's about this balmy Febuary weather. It's really too good to be true... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Sorry. Nice try. Not the Romero Saddle one closer.. Lots closer but cool and breezy. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Coconutbill evan.spa...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Has to be Malibu (ie. Will Rogers, Leo Carillo...?) nice shots, dude! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Wonderfully composed and an enjoyable read. Got me thinking about my own fortune in having a riding resource outside my back door (Although Gozales, McGonnigle, and Black Mountain have nowhere near the extent of Big Tijunga). That in turn led to reading about Sunland-Tijunga history, the

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Thanks Evan...nope try again. It's gonna be awesome! But not till the really hot months. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Coconutbill

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Tom, Thank you Sir. Ha! I've read about the founding Women of Tujunga/Sunlandbut lack a comprehensive understanding of the native people's of this area. I will remedy that. I am more familiar with the La Jolla indian tribes of long ago and the Cahuilla Indian people's of the Palm Springs region,

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

As much as I love Vangroovy, we can't touch PDX for beer. Or donuts. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:50:21 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Yeah Chris I'll go and buy where ever I feel like buying to include a unit next door to you and party 24/7. And whether to visit ? PDX hasn't won that bid

Re: [RBW] Re: Out my back door.

Cecily, What! Really!Don't you Vangoovy folk head over the *border* for those good fermented beverages fried holey goodness? ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Feb 12, 2014

Re: [RBW] Re: It is BACK!

Looks ready to go-go! Nice job Lynne On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: And here is the built up bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157634204220895/with/9080786811/ still to do - trim off the rack stays, and bolt the front fender to

[RBW] Re: It is BACK!

And here is the built up bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157634204220895/with/9080786811/ still to do - trim off the rack stays, and bolt the front fender to the front rack. It will happen. Eventually. On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:29:03 AM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote: When I

[RBW] Re: It is BACK!

drop-dead-gorgeous On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:44:14 PM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: The new blue is stunning! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: It is BACK!

Congrats! Do you have more pics? Before and aft? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: It is BACK!

Best looking Bleriot out there! Ride in style Lynn. I'm humming, Oh Bleriot! to Van Morrison's tune... On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:29:03 PM UTC-5, Lynne Fitz wrote: When I will get time to build it up until next week is another question. But my beloved Rivendell Bleriot (last seen as a

[RBW] Re: It is BACK!

Before and after: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157632430316656/ The SS couplers were pre-existing. I had them installed right after I bought the frame in 2007. Upgraded fork - Riv didn't have a Bleriot fork. So I have a Saluki/Hillborne fork with mid-fork rack braze-ons.

[RBW] Re: It is BACK!

Fantastic color! Does it have a special name? Is it the same as the Homer blue? On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:29:03 AM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote: When I will get time to build it up until next week is another question. But my beloved Rivendell Bleriot (last seen as a smoking heap of somewhat

Re: [RBW] Re: It is BACK!

Another one drooling over the bike. Very nice. Love the blue and the cream looks creamier than the regular Rivendell version. Could just be the contrast with the blue, but it works for me. Glad you have it back. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Aaron Thomas

Re: [RBW] Re: It is BACK!

Looks great! So, while you look for time to build it out, you have wonderful art for your wall! On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:15:39 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: Another one drooling over the bike. Very nice. Love the blue and the cream looks creamier than the regular Rivendell version. Could

[RBW] Re: It is BACK!

The new blue is stunning! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

That is exactly what I did. Works great. Thanks Jim. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:48:48 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Clayton, you can use your bar end shifters and Dyna-Sys 10sp cassette if you use a Shimano 9sp derailleur. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:28:33 AM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

Looking at the parent website http://joy-japan.com It appears that they are either in cahoots or one and same company as MicroShift which is interesting In fact on the joy-japan.com site the two logos a superimposed one above the other. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:39:55 PM UTC+10,

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

On Mon, 2013-04-15 at 22:06 -0700, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Thanks for bringing up those points, Jan - I'm not specifically against freewheels. My experience was that I regularly bent axles on my old mtb which had a freewheel and never had that problem with any freehubs. My recollection was

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

Steve P nails it. Many of these old-skool design ideas might fill a niche within a niche within a niche. Given the previously mentioned issues with freewheels, and not many upsides except low cost, the people still using them are devoted antiquarians, those who spec dept store bikes, and those

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunTour On Monday, April 15, 2013 10:23:29 PM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote: Is Sun XCD a different company than SR SUNTOUR? https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/ http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/SID=si2a13400691526f93776ec0bdf6d126/index.php -- You received

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:56:59 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: That assumes there's actually a market for straight-cut sprockets. Even back in the 1970s they were actively searching for tooth profiles that made shifting easier. Remember Shimano's wavy teeth? I doubt the total

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

From my own experience with 5 thru 10 shifting, all manual (didn't index after circa 1993 or 4 until I got the 7 sp DA for the Ram) I would say that the problems below come solely from excessively narrow spacing -- it, too many cogs -- and even that, perhaps, due to using the wrong levers (levers

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

I would be alright with some nice choices in 7 speed cassettes and chains. I have been using the IRD freewheels on my Rivy hubs without much to complain about. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:35:04 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Steve P nails it. Many of these old-skool design

[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

Here is what I would like to see them make. Cassette hub, 7 or 8 speed WIDE ratio cassette, Bomb proof (literally) bar end index shifters with friction option or disc brake levers (maybe brifters, crash proof though, and sealed against crashing in a pumice dust and sand pile, don't ask) and

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

That's not the only, or even the worst, problem with freewheels. By design, pedaling tightens a freewheel. On a tandem or on a bike ridden by a very strong rider, they get screwed on so tight it's difficult if not outright impossible to remove them. What's more, the tremendous force needed

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 10:11 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I think, therefore, that if Shimano and others simply brought back 8 speed systems with friction options, we'd be where we need to be in respect of drivetrains. No? I agree that new systems are not, from the standpoint of both use and

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On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 09:01 -0700, RJM wrote: I would be alright with some nice choices in 7 speed cassettes and chains. Then you must be alright right now, because there ARE plenty of nice choices in 7 speed cassettes, and also some nice 7/8 speed chains for them. Note that the chains are

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I've used both 15 and 16 t outer cogs by Miche. 7 speed DA on the Ram starts with 14. 16 is the largest, but you can fudge anything as an outer if you are willing to compromise on cassette position and # of cogs. My 14 t outer is a standard inner. Friction shifting 9 on the Fargo now, with Silver

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Would it work to put a bunch of singlespeed sprockets onto a cassette? Only 13 to 22t with Surly... http://surlybikes.com/parts/cassette_cog That could give you a 9 speed corncob with tall teeth, mated to wide-spaced rings, like 24, 34, 44. I'm the last person you should ask about

[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

Clayton, you can use your bar end shifters and Dyna-Sys 10sp cassette if you use a Shimano 9sp derailleur. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:28:33 AM UTC-5, clayton wrote: Here is what I would like to see them make. Cassette hub, 7 or 8 speed WIDE ratio cassette, Bomb proof (literally) bar end

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I like the idea of a wide-range 7sp or 8sp cassette, like 12-36 or something. Pair it with a mountain double crank. I'm thinking of my amazing SRAM 2x10 kits, but with fewer cogs. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:28:33 AM UTC-5, clayton wrote: Here is what I would like to see them make.

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The Surly cog cassette was discussed at HC clubhouse earlier today. Surly cogs retail for $25+ each... On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:45:57 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote: Would it work to put a bunch of singlespeed sprockets onto a cassette? Only 13 to 22t with Surly...

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Sounds like a 4-speed cassette, then. I bet the Jeff Jones cassette cost about $150, though, and I think XTR cassettes cost so much I blacked out and can't remember the price. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

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Y'know what I'd love to see? Non-ramped rear sprockets. Just like on the old freewheels we used to get, but set on a carrier so they would fit on current freehubs. Steel? Sure, if that is easier, but aluminum is fine if the teeth were longer. 8 sprockets or even 9, so the size would be

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The bearings spacing on most cassette hubs is no different from that of a freewheel hub. With the exception of Shimano and Mavic and a few small makers, all freehubs have the hub bearings under the flanges, more or less. As long as the axle is properly designed, that is not a problem. The

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On Sat, 2013-04-13 at 17:32 -0700, Matthew J wrote: Kind of afraid this would be the case, Jan. I have a private horde of 7 Suntour Winner Pros. Fortunately Winner Pro were so well made, and now, thanks to a tip from Patrick, I found someone who is much more adept than I rebuilding

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Is Sun XCD a different company than SR SUNTOUR? https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/ http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/SID=si2a13400691526f93776ec0bdf6d126/index.php On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2013-04-13 at 17:32 -0700, Matthew J wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

Thanks for bringing up those points, Jan - I'm not specifically against freewheels. My experience was that I regularly bent axles on my old mtb which had a freewheel and never had that problem with any freehubs. My recollection was that the mtb (which was a six speed 1983 drivetrain) had

[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

Rob, That's a pretty good looking finish. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our

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