Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-17 Thread Armand Kizirian
@rmros...@gmail.com: The crank is a vintage middleburn triple road crank. Not really available anywhere. Nothing states the model either. It has a highly machined spider and very scalloped arms. I'll be swapping the guard/42/30 rings from the Silver cranks onto it. On Monday, January 15,

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-15 Thread Ryan Frahm
To me, I don’t notice the weight on my normal rides and commutes, I have racks and gear and pull a trailer everywhere so weight is what it is. I do notice the weight when the trail disappears on a weekend trip and I’m lifting the bike and all my gear over or pushing/pulling under down trees.

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-15 Thread Richard Rose
This (to me) is especially true when mountain biking. The trails I like most have a LOT of short but very punchy climbs. The whole experience is one of doing intervals, blasting the downhills but gathering strength for the next climb. My road rides these days are much more chill, without any of

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Ron Mc
What makes a bike joyous is not 1 mph, 15 mph, or 23 mph, but the dynamic changes between those velocities. On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-6 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ wrote: > Chris made some good points. I am not justifying a heavy bike, merely > pointing out what you

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Chris made some good points.   I am not justifying a heavy bike, merely pointing out what you can expect if you take that trip & 'go down the rabbit hole' wrt to reducing frame weight and overall weight including the rims/tires.  You may not get your kicks on Rt 66 ('when you take that CA

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yes, that is what I remember.  I dont know if the lady still has the podcast.   She had a shop in Cleveland, so if someone is from the area, maybe they can chime in.    She also said if you feel like you want to push yourself back on the saddle, your distance to the bars is too great. 

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Chris Fly
if you just look at the numbers, you can go down a long rabbit hole and certainly justify a heavy bike.. I agree 1mph isn't anything.. what you can't justify with numbers is what a heavy bike *feels* like when riding.. some heavier bikes certainly can "ride light", but many don't in my

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Richard Rose
12 pounds?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 7:49 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:During a appearance on The Opiniated Cyclist, Richard Schwinn stated the following:  Reducing the bike weight by 12 lbm, increases your speed by 1 mph, given the same power input

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
During a appearance on The Opiniated Cyclist, Richard Schwinn stated the following: Reducing the bike weight by 12 lbm, increases your speed by 1 mph, given the same power input from testing Schwinn did. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 12:11:36 PM UTC-5 Bicycle

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Patrick Moore
I'll be very interested in hearing more about your experiences with the 2 build kits. Please be sure to itemize the individual components and describe how much you think each affected your riding experience. Also, I'll be interested to learn how light you can get a Platypus (what size?) with a

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Richard Rose
Armand, yes, yes & yes! Your documentation will no doubt be very interesting. Let’s start with which triple crank will save you a full 1/2 pound?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Armand Kizirian wrote:The key here is to avoid the numbers, and focus on what the threshold is for

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Armand Kizirian
The key here is to avoid the numbers, and focus on what the threshold is for *experience. *Let's investigate. Weight is traditionally discussed for going faster, but we are all "enlightened" enough to know to not spoil our riding experience with such matters. However, there are merits to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Ron Mc
The scalar involved here, 6 lbs, and 15 lbs, hardly fits into weight weenie discussion. But I do remember a thread about why some bikes feel faster. Less energy going into changing the rotational speed of components means more energy going directly into drive. On Sunday, January 14, 2024

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Kim H.
I am not a weight weenie. I will take the beauty over the weight. I have enough low gears to not even think about. Kim Hetzel ...loving my beautiful retirement bicycle. On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 9:50:38 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: > It's interesting to view a moderately weight weenie

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Patrick Moore
It's interesting to view a moderately weight weenie thread on this list! expect Rivendell make their frames as heavy as they are largely to avoid breakage and resulting costs of return or repairs; that's a guess. But reviewers of even the Clem, which I gather from list discussions is built with

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Chris Fly
I think weight matters and one of the main reasons I LOVE looking at the Riv site and Riv bikes. but currently only own my Dad's AHH that was given to me when he passed.. I would never quibble over a couple pounds here or there, but reading through this thread and seeing the OP's

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Leah Peterson
It will always have a dyno hub. I just can’t give up that kind of practicality. I didn’t know Paul components would save me any weight but I’m glad if they do. My Velo Orange levers were pretty feather-light already though. I probably do have the Platy set up as light as I dare, save the

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Richard Rose
Which circles back to original post. Having disassembled my Silver crank I have a new appreciation for it. It’s quite beautifully manufactured and now lighter thanks to the aluminum chainring. White Industries square taper crank in comparison is also beautiful & MUSA. But, complete with chainrings

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Sarah Carlson
Leah, now you will probably chime in with me and Joe on the conversations when we discuss how a crank can also be beautiful. Because once you recognize it you won't be able to unsee it! Sarah On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 4:04:25 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > You guys are

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Johnny Alien
Does the raspberry Platy still have a dyno hub? If so that would be a big gain as far as weight loss and lessening drag. Otherwise you have it set up fairly light from what I remember about your posts. Paul components will sure help shave some grams. When weight is brought up the first thing

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
You guys are going to make me want to fall down the rabbit hole again and find little ways to lighten up my raspberry Platypus. And I have now just practically sent an invitation for people to tell me that weight doesn’t matter and I should think about the engine (me) and so on but not even

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread brendonoid
This thread made me finally weigh my 59cm Susie and it came in 15.9kg. which is more than I thought tbh. It would be 17kg normally I guess but currently doesn't have front rack and basket. There are a lot of places I could save weight I suppose. I have straight guage spokes, and b17 flyer, dyno

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-13 Thread Ron Mc
Kinda like alloy rims vs. steel, you'll notice the inertia difference between a heavy and light crank when climbing. On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 12:01:42 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > I will say I was surprised when I weighed my 2 piece Silver crank (double) > vs the White

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-13 Thread Ryan Frahm
I will say I was surprised when I weighed my 2 piece Silver crank (double) vs the White Industries single that I planned to put on my Susie. The Sliver was over a pound heavier. I think my Susie was under 30lbs but I never weighed it. I usually don’t think much about the weight because of

[RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-12 Thread Ed Fausto
Hi Richard (I hope I got your name right), Please provide more details. Like you I have a 51 Gus and it weighs 40lbs and I am having second thoughts of bringing it to my next big trip. I am thinking of bringing my 48 Hunqapillar but I prefer the ride quality of my Gus. I also consider myself

[RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-12 Thread Kim H.
The quest for knowledge continues to grow with anticipation and wonder. Kim Hetzel. On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 5:05:10 PM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote: > I am in the middle of a cold weather tear down / deep cleaning of my Clem > L. This project started with ordering a new chain & large