[RBW] Re: Nitto R-14 top rack on a Roadeo: Sacrilege?
I don't have a Roadeo so take this with grain of salt, but I bet it would be fine. The R-14 rack is not typical, being unusually well made, lightweight and stiff. That being said, you could also look into mounting the smaller Mark's rack- although they are normally shown mounted to the fork, they can also be mounted to the seatstays. I have one on an old sequoia to support a large saddlebag and it is great. Matt On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:10:41 AM UTC-4, Forrest wrote: Would use rubber-lined clamps on the seat stays, and the long struts bolted to fender braze-ons at the rear dropouts. Could just use a true saddlebag sans rack, but I am overly fond of my Arkel Tail Rider trunk bag. It only weighs a pound, and I usually never have more than 7-9 pounds of stuff in it, max, often more like 5-6 pounds. But it is bullet-proof and waterproof and expandable, and what if I come across a box turtle that I would like to take home to my wife as a present (she's turtle-crazy)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/V9ORI3ST-5QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nitto R-14 top rack on a Roadeo: Sacrilege?
You'd be surprised what a light-tubed frame can take with a high quality rack properly loaded. I used to load Eric Motobecane fixie, light 531 (C?) tubing, with 40+ lb of rear load -- 45 total on the rear was the most recorded. It wagged with over 40, but 30+ was fine. Lightweight Tubus Fly. My all 753 '95 road custom would handle 40 lb loads with a Fly, also very well. Even the longer stayed current '03 handles 30 lb fine, tho' not as well as the other two bikes. I found that panniers so attached affected handling less than heavy saddlebags while also carrying more. I doubt that the Rom's tubes are any lighter than those of the above. The trike is 531 and light for a steel trike, and it handles loads even better! -- Hoss, tho' I hope one day to get a custom platform rack for it. On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Saddlebags are pretty nice. Have you tried one? You might find--as I did with my Romulus--that the lightweight tubing is not happy with even a five pounds cantilevered off the back on a rack. If you're not dissuaded, how about the Nitto R10 that clamps to the seatpost and can bolt to the fender eyelets? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=872 I agree that one always should have room for the unexpected! Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne
Yes, even though the axle is longer on my one single speed wheel, it's had no problem holding up my 230 pounds even with panniers and gear. FWIW, a Phil freewheel hub has a long axle on the non-drive side to make a low dish wheel. Have one on my Sam Hillborne and it has held up just fine under my weight in all kinds of riding. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Monday, April 9, 2012 8:24:34 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: My ss/fixed hubs are all spaced 126, 130 or 135: never a problem even with heavy rear loads. I weigh 175 and often carry 40 lb or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9pt4de6O-l0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto R-14 top rack on a Roadeo: Sacrilege?
Go for it. Not only does it sound like a fine idea, but the Arkel Tail Rider is a great bag. I don't have one, but have looked them over numerous times. Saddlebags are great, but if you're not using a saddle with loops and don't want to use a Nitto bag clamp, there's not a lot out there. The R-14 is a better idea IMO. Had an R-14 on my Hillborne when first building it up. And may eventually have one on another bike someday. It's a excellent item. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:20:04 AM UTC-5, newenglandbike wrote: I don't have a Roadeo so take this with grain of salt, but I bet it would be fine. The R-14 rack is not typical, being unusually well made, lightweight and stiff. That being said, you could also look into mounting the smaller Mark's rack- although they are normally shown mounted to the fork, they can also be mounted to the seatstays. I have one on an old sequoia to support a large saddlebag and it is great. Matt On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:10:41 AM UTC-4, Forrest wrote: Would use rubber-lined clamps on the seat stays, and the long struts bolted to fender braze-ons at the rear dropouts. Could just use a true saddlebag sans rack, but I am overly fond of my Arkel Tail Rider trunk bag. It only weighs a pound, and I usually never have more than 7-9 pounds of stuff in it, max, often more like 5-6 pounds. But it is bullet-proof and waterproof and expandable, and what if I come across a box turtle that I would like to take home to my wife as a present (she's turtle-crazy)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/S3L5v4acv94J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nitto R-14 top rack on a Roadeo: Sacrilege?
Thanks for the tip on the R-10, Joe. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:45:59 AM UTC-5, joe b. wrote: Saddlebags are pretty nice. Have you tried one? You might find--as I did with my Romulus--that the lightweight tubing is not happy with even a five pounds cantilevered off the back on a rack. If you're not dissuaded, how about the Nitto R10 that clamps to the seatpost and can bolt to the fender eyelets? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=872 I agree that one always should have room for the unexpected! Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/57n1oWp7fCEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Bleriot
2 out of 3 interested parties have backed outfinances and size. The third is thinking. The Bleriot is still available and will finally be on eBay in the next 48 hrs if nobody is interested. Sorry for the multiple posts, but I really dislike using eBay for various reasons. On Mar 29, 9:42 am, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: The bike is still available. I have posted on my local craigslist sites. I would really like to not use eBay. Kris On Mar 28, 9:12 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: What a deal. somebody gonna be happy when they get this. On Mar 27, 7:06 pm, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: MyBleriotis just not getting ridden enough and the poor guy is hanging on a hook all day. I am the original owner and purchased directly from QBP when I worked at a shop. I am only selling to finance the purchase of a Salsa Fargo. I am the original owner and it's in great condition. It has the usual nicks but no significant scratches. The Honjo fenders have some dings, but still look great! There's some wear on the head badge as well. Build; 59 cmBleriotframe and fork Shimano 600 headset Nitto Randonneur bar Nitto Technomic 110 stem Shimano R600 50/34 cranks Shimano Ultegra FD Shimano 105 RD Shimano Dura Ace bar end shifters Tektro R556 side pull calipers Cane Creek brake levers Shimano LX/Velocity Synergy wheel set Nifty Swifty Tires Honjo Fenders Campagnolo Athena seatpost No pedals, saddle or cassette (which was used on my main road bike) $1300 + shipping - pics available for those interested. I'm in Asheville, NC if someone local is interested.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
Clearly not enough people will pay 1k for a dedicated SS frame Maybe part of the problem was the fixation (no pun intended) on single. Even though some have disparaged the thought that the SO/QB would be used with an IGH, I'm thinking why not? In fact, maybe it should have been market to work specifically with an IGH. Maybe the true ancestor of the SO/QB is really a classic Raleigh 3-speed? Maybe Valvoline green should have been British Racing Green instead? Positioned this way, people who aren't one-speed fans would have thought differently about the bike. Wouldn't a re-born classic 3 (still maintaining the versatility to be all the other things the SO/QB can be) be just the ticket from a company that's all about nice, practical everyday bikes? It's all academic now, of course... On Monday, April 9, 2012 10:11:48 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: Jim writes: People think single-speed and in the same thought they think beater or winter bike or bar bike or whatever other utilitarian, un-romantic category applies. I figure Jim's dealt with way more folks buying bikes than I have so I wouldn't take issue with him about what people in the aggregate think. But I sure don't think that way. When I got my first ss/fixed bike (after grade school that is), I was concerned about winter in the midwest. I didn't want rear derailers freezing up packed full of slush. I wanted fenders so I wouldn't get covered with slush. I thought the 1/8th inch chain would lower the loads and wear better. But I wasn't particularly thinking cheep. I got campi track hubs, moderate weight tubular rims, suntour superbe cranks, lyotard platform pedals (ok they weren't expensive but they were nice), and chinelli bar and stem. If I could have afforded a better frame I think I would have. I understand fear of theft driving a desire for cheep. But not fear of the elements. I have never hesitated to take a nice bike out into the rain or snow because I was afraid it would get wrecked. I also see no conflict between utilitarian and aesthetics/elegance/beauty etc. Have you ever used snap-on tools? Clearly not enough people will pay 1k for a dedicated SS frame and fork to support the SO/QB in the marketplace. I just find it odd if thats not because almost nobody (outside of hipsterdom which, as noted previously, has a different aesthetic) really knows they like riding em. Of course I think lots of things are odd. On Apr 9, 3:16 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Also, in reference to Ted's comment about the Cross-check being more an analog to the Hillborne than to the SO: That's definitely true if you're talking about the Cross-check as a geared bike. In that case, the two bikes have a lot of similarities, except one looks fancier and costs $600 more (for the frameset only). The price difference is more profound if you compare the CC stock complete bike to a similarly equipped Hillborne, which is not available as a mass-market complete bike. But lots of people, for various reasons, think the price difference on the Riv is plenty acceptable. Lots of people are willing to shell out for a special bike. Cool. But single-speeds are different. People think single-speed and in the same thought they think beater or winter bike or bar bike or whatever other utilitarian, un-romantic category applies. In that case, you look at that $600 price difference and you think about rust and dents, and that Surly, what it lacks in panache, it makes up in ruggedness and, ultimately, in the worst case scenario, replaceability. In the case of single-speeds, the preciousness that many of us assign to Rivendell bicycles is a drawback. And that's why I say more mundane frames like the CC make it hard to sell the QB/SO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/q-gMrbjru68J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
It's good to hear that you're feeling well. Fours years ago, at age 68, I had a bicycling accident resulting in a complete hip replacement. I'm cycling again but it took about a year to feel 98% better. Very recently I've had a slight pain develop in the repaired leg and I'm a little concerned because of the articles I've read about the hip equipment deteriorating after about five years resulting in second and third operations. Maybe that's not my problem but it is something to be aware about. I hope your recovery continues successfully. Oh, my helmet was severely cracked and I did have bleeding in my brain. Without the helmet I might not be writing this today. On Apr 9, 6:51 pm, Jim jamesfek...@gmail.com wrote: I was interested to see the thread on knee issues, as I have a similar question about hips. Unfortunately, last Friday night I was riding a bike lane downtown, and a car door opened up suddenly in front of me, which threw me and Homer to the ground. Homer came out fairly well, but I ended up with a broken femur that was surgically repaired the following day .Police investigated and the driver was cited, and I expect to be compensated by his auto insurance. Being in Boulder, nearly everyone taking care of me, including the surgeon, are avid bikers, and are assuring me that I will make a full recovery from this injury, probably back on the bike in a couple months. But I'd be interested if there are any of the folks like us out there (i'm 54 years old) that have gone through this and if they have any wisdom to provide, Also, when your bike is in a crash like that, I assume you should have a competent mechanic give it a through inspection to make sure things are ok. Any other words of wisdom for assuring the safety of a crashed bike? I'm finishing up day 2 after surgery and am doing well and feeling fine. Other than the hip, just a touch of road rash and a bruise from where my shoulder hit the door. This was a case where wearing the helmet probably saved me from a closed head injury. Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
Glad you're on the mend, Jim. Getting the bike looked at sounds like a good idea. Here's to a full and quick recovery. --Smitty On Monday, April 9, 2012 6:51:47 PM UTC-7, Jim wrote: I was interested to see the thread on knee issues, as I have a similar question about hips. Unfortunately, last Friday night I was riding a bike lane downtown, and a car door opened up suddenly in front of me, which threw me and Homer to the ground. Homer came out fairly well, but I ended up with a broken femur that was surgically repaired the following day .Police investigated and the driver was cited, and I expect to be compensated by his auto insurance. Being in Boulder, nearly everyone taking care of me, including the surgeon, are avid bikers, and are assuring me that I will make a full recovery from this injury, probably back on the bike in a couple months. But I'd be interested if there are any of the folks like us out there (i'm 54 years old) that have gone through this and if they have any wisdom to provide, Also, when your bike is in a crash like that, I assume you should have a competent mechanic give it a through inspection to make sure things are ok. Any other words of wisdom for assuring the safety of a crashed bike? I'm finishing up day 2 after surgery and am doing well and feeling fine. Other than the hip, just a touch of road rash and a bruise from where my shoulder hit the door. This was a case where wearing the helmet probably saved me from a closed head injury. Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u_G1kEA2QBYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
I have a good friend in his late 60s who broke his femur in a cycling accident and is fine now. Not even a limp. And one of my legs was shattered in 1984 and aside from a limited range of motion which is OK on the bike I'm fine. Good luck. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
Grant has stated his reluctance in the past to get involved in bikes with IGHs. I don't blame him. It's a case of a lot of people having unrealistic expectations that don't match reality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kkpJWdwJfXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:54:10 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Grant has stated his reluctance in the past to get involved in bikes with IGHs. I don't blame him. It's a case of a lot of people having unrealistic expectations that don't match reality. I kind of agree with Grant on this; plus, I can't find too much wrong with derailer systems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/n-IoSOKXfJEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
Not sure how many people have unrealistic expectations of Raleigh 3 speeds, but OK. I can understand steering clear of IGHs if they're not your thing. Seems like the only expectation that was unrealistic in this case was that the SO would sell. I'm just throwing out a hypothetical (and apparently heretical :-p) idea that might have made a difference. We'll never know. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:54:10 AM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Grant has stated his reluctance in the past to get involved in bikes with IGHs. I don't blame him. It's a case of a lot of people having unrealistic expectations that don't match reality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rrPbuQqHTfwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto R-14 top rack on a Roadeo: Sacrilege?
I use a Carradice Super C saddlebag with a bagman QR support on your old Sam. I bet the same setup would work great on the Rodeo. Jay On Apr 10, 3:05 pm, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote: Thanks for the tip on the R-10, Joe. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:45:59 AM UTC-5, joe b. wrote: Saddlebags are pretty nice. Have you tried one? You might find--as I did with my Romulus--that the lightweight tubing is not happy with even a five pounds cantilevered off the back on a rack. If you're not dissuaded, how about the Nitto R10 that clamps to the seatpost and can bolt to the fender eyelets? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id... I agree that one always should have room for the unexpected! Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
The biggest issue with IGHs is that they appeal mostly to people who want to avoid doing bike maintenance. In SoCal, that's probably ok, but in places where people will ride them through sloppy conditions, water and grime and salts get in, but can't get out. The hub keeps working until it doesn't, and then it's too late to fix it because most of the time you can't get parts for the most popular models (namely, Shimano 8sp models). Rohloff is sealed and mostly immune to these flaws, but that's out of most cyclists' league. Old SA 3-speeds are another thing, too, because parts are available in surplus and cheap, and the hubs are sloppy enough to function (to some extent) even when internal parts are worn or gunked up or out of adjustment. Then you have the issues with more difficult flat fixes, shifter/handlebar capability, weight (perhaps), many bike shops that don't know how to service them or carry parts, etc, etc. And, besides all that, modern derailleur systems, work REALLY well with a modicum of TLC. What problem are we solving? Don't get me wrong, I think IGHs have some neat advantages, but the people who want them are often the people who will have trouble with them and be disappointed. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:27:39 AM UTC-5, Peter Pesce wrote: Not sure how many people have unrealistic expectations of Raleigh 3 speeds, but OK. I can understand steering clear of IGHs if they're not your thing. Seems like the only expectation that was unrealistic in this case was that the SO would sell. I'm just throwing out a hypothetical (and apparently heretical :-p) idea that might have made a difference. We'll never know. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:54:10 AM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Grant has stated his reluctance in the past to get involved in bikes with IGHs. I don't blame him. It's a case of a lot of people having unrealistic expectations that don't match reality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QsI-nDEbetAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
Whenever I get the urge to own a fixie, I just start riding in one gear and never stop pedaling. Then, when I hit a steep uphill or downhill, the urge passes and I shift. ;-) As a practical question, why couldn't a Rambouillet (or a Roadeo) be set up as a single speed and converted back when you need gearing? The SimpleOne seems to be outside of the Rivendell velosophy of practical, but beautiful, bikes. Also, once you throw brakes on a fixie, you alienate the one demographic (in NYC, anyway) that seems to want to ride one. On Mar 25, 3:27 pm, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote: After only a week of riding my SimpleOne, I find it is fast becoming my favorite bike. I cannot pin down what quality it has that gives me such a joy to ride. I own a Rambouillet and a Surly LHT and it would be easy to make the argument that either one of those is way more practical for my purposes than the SimpleOne. I do love both of those bikes and would not easily give them up, but the SimpleOne has become my new best friend. I am grateful that I bought one before they disappeared. David Spranger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
The last single speed I had was as a kid and his StingRay. Getting a bike with gears was a revelation. I remember actually riding, not pushing the bike, up 73rd in Oakland with a big smile on my face. I doubt, in fact I know, I'd never get a single speed. I can get the same effect by not changing gears for a while. Maybe if it had all the braze ons for a Rohloff or something like that. Some people seem to like them, just not for me. On Apr 9, 7:11 pm, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Jim writes: People think single-speed and in the same thought they think beater or winter bike or bar bike or whatever other utilitarian, un-romantic category applies. I figure Jim's dealt with way more folks buying bikes than I have so I wouldn't take issue with him about what people in the aggregate think. But I sure don't think that way. When I got my first ss/fixed bike (after grade school that is), I was concerned about winter in the midwest. I didn't want rear derailers freezing up packed full of slush. I wanted fenders so I wouldn't get covered with slush. I thought the 1/8th inch chain would lower the loads and wear better. But I wasn't particularly thinking cheep. I got campi track hubs, moderate weight tubular rims, suntour superbe cranks, lyotard platform pedals (ok they weren't expensive but they were nice), and chinelli bar and stem. If I could have afforded a better frame I think I would have. I understand fear of theft driving a desire for cheep. But not fear of the elements. I have never hesitated to take a nice bike out into the rain or snow because I was afraid it would get wrecked. I also see no conflict between utilitarian and aesthetics/elegance/beauty etc. Have you ever used snap-on tools? Clearly not enough people will pay 1k for a dedicated SS frame and fork to support the SO/QB in the marketplace. I just find it odd if thats not because almost nobody (outside of hipsterdom which, as noted previously, has a different aesthetic) really knows they like riding em. Of course I think lots of things are odd. On Apr 9, 3:16 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Also, in reference to Ted's comment about the Cross-check being more an analog to the Hillborne than to the SO: That's definitely true if you're talking about the Cross-check as a geared bike. In that case, the two bikes have a lot of similarities, except one looks fancier and costs $600 more (for the frameset only). The price difference is more profound if you compare the CC stock complete bike to a similarly equipped Hillborne, which is not available as a mass-market complete bike. But lots of people, for various reasons, think the price difference on the Riv is plenty acceptable. Lots of people are willing to shell out for a special bike. Cool. But single-speeds are different. People think single-speed and in the same thought they think beater or winter bike or bar bike or whatever other utilitarian, un-romantic category applies. In that case, you look at that $600 price difference and you think about rust and dents, and that Surly, what it lacks in panache, it makes up in ruggedness and, ultimately, in the worst case scenario, replaceability. In the case of single-speeds, the preciousness that many of us assign to Rivendell bicycles is a drawback. And that's why I say more mundane frames like the CC make it hard to sell the QB/SO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Imladris dgoldberger...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever I get the urge to own a fixie, I just start riding in one gear and never stop pedaling. Then, when I hit a steep uphill or downhill, the urge passes and I shift. ;-) As a practical question, why couldn't a Rambouillet (or a Roadeo) be set up as a single speed and converted back when you need gearing? The SimpleOne seems to be outside of the Rivendell velosophy of practical, but beautiful, bikes. Also, once you throw brakes on a fixie, you alienate the one demographic (in NYC, anyway) that seems to want to ride one. Ram or Roadeo have vertical dropouts (as do almost all rivs except for the oldest ones and the qb/so. You can single-speed a bike with vert dropouts but you need a chain tensioner and then, well, that's just like having a derailler. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne
Or you can use one of the lovely White ENO hubs, which I've done on current Bleriot iteration -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Seth Vidal Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:33 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Imladris dgoldberger...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever I get the urge to own a fixie, I just start riding in one gear and never stop pedaling. Then, when I hit a steep uphill or downhill, the urge passes and I shift. ;-) As a practical question, why couldn't a Rambouillet (or a Roadeo) be set up as a single speed and converted back when you need gearing? The SimpleOne seems to be outside of the Rivendell velosophy of practical, but beautiful, bikes. Also, once you throw brakes on a fixie, you alienate the one demographic (in NYC, anyway) that seems to want to ride one. Ram or Roadeo have vertical dropouts (as do almost all rivs except for the oldest ones and the qb/so. You can single-speed a bike with vert dropouts but you need a chain tensioner and then, well, that's just like having a derailler. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Knee trouble
Yup, I'm up here in Sonoma County Getting Mellow, too Beth. I've got Osteoarthritis in my right knee and to a lesser degree in the left, but I used to enjoy fairly good knee health. There would be the occasional need for icing, but I used to joke that a little bit of swelling would keep things in place. My riding ranged from 200 to 300 miles a week in 40-50 mile bites. One or two of those rides were fixed gear. I never could hack the offroad single speed thing although the few times I did ride fixed offroad were a blast. My mom has had both her knees replaced and I have spent 25+ years working on the floor. If anything my bike riding helped my knees - even the fixed stuff - I never used an outrageously big gear. My riding now consists of getting around town, and a close-to-daily recreation/therapeutic ride of about 1.5-2 hours on flat ground. Though initially it was on my singlespeed, I've now got a Sturmey Archer B2C kickback hub that seems just right for me. 48/68 gear inches provides enough low to get me moving, and enough high to make it feel exciting. I think once I sell off a good portion of my bikes and gear I'll be looking forward to getting a Riv Simpleone, or whatever the present generation is, provided they build some my size. Phil B On Apr 9, 8:00 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 9, 11:29 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious to hear from oldsters (ie, older than young-uns like myself at a just-turned-57) who ride fixed or ss: how's y'all's knees? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A new tent for bicycle camping?
i use a mountain laurel designs tarptent. no zippers, optimized geometry for severe weather endurance -- if it's nice but just a light rain, you can raise it up and have a nice shelter. perfect for those of us who prefer to sleep outdoors when we sleep outdoors, but want to stay dry. i think the whole thing is under 16 ounces, and i can sleep 3 in there comfortably enough. packs the size of my hand. not sure how much they are anymore, and you can pick the model for your use, but i spent 160 on mine. http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/ erik On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 5:04 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Agree to a large extent. However, the past couple of years, been on an overnight bike trip with friends and each time we had a thunderstorm with pretty strong winds. Both times, my tents stayed up, but not everyone was so lucky. FWIW, the first trip was with a Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight and the last time was a Eureka that Grant recommended. Both definitely on the inexpensive end of things. But unless one is really into gear or does take their equipment to extremes, most of us don't need a Hilleberg. Still, doesn't keep me from wanting one some day. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sunday, April 8, 2012 11:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mojo wrote: Nice sentiment Jim! Don't let the gear get in the way of the experience. I can be guilty, especially with a camera trying to 'capture' the moment. I love it when my bike disappears underneath me, and it is just my breathing and the hill and the wind and sunshine. On Sunday, April 8, 2012 9:50:42 AM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Sometimes we enthusiasts get carried away with gear fetishism. Many of us can rattle off detailed specs of various tents on the market, and all for basic portable shelter! Back in college I camped a lot with no tent whatsoever. Then I bought some closeout eureka tent that was poorly reviewed, but cheap and light. I slept in it hundreds of times over the next dozen or so years. It was worn and full of small holes, but adequate, until it finally succumbed to uv damage (from me leaving it outside for the kids all summer). Now I have another tent (Mountainsmith something) that was also on the inexpensive end, and seems just fine for separating me and a traveling companion from bugs and rain. I love the idea of the $4 yard sale tent! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/I1NjeCyK5p8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto R-14 top rack on a Roadeo: Sacrilege?
Rubber-lined clamps can discolor the paint beneath them. This is especially obvious on light-colored bikes. I'd suggest a wrap of bar tape or rim tape under the rubber to protect your paint. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:10:41 AM UTC-4, Forrest wrote: Would use rubber-lined clamps on the seat stays, and the long struts bolted to fender braze-ons at the rear dropouts. Could just use a true saddlebag sans rack, but I am overly fond of my Arkel Tail Rider trunk bag. It only weighs a pound, and I usually never have more than 7-9 pounds of stuff in it, max, often more like 5-6 pounds. But it is bullet-proof and waterproof and expandable, and what if I come across a box turtle that I would like to take home to my wife as a present (she's turtle-crazy)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FV5Vem9PzwsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Any New York Rivendellish shops?
Planning on heading to New York with the lady friend for spring break. Like any good couple we already picked a day to ourselves where we get to see the beauty of New York without each other. (It's a interesting relationship I know but hey it works for us.) My general belief is that the best way to see a traffic ridden city is via bike. Not so sure if I want to bring my own bike to New York or if I want to rent one there. Anyone recommend any good bike shops to rent/see/visit/gawk at in the Big Apple? Better yet anyone free to take a spin while I'm there? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_O8juPnlK74J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Slightly Epic.
Modestly great, a minor success: I rode 40 miles today, the longest in one day since I did the Museum of Nat Hist organized 50 miler in September, 2004. Errands: first Mom to home to pick up Catie's coat; second to RS Watsons house to sell him something for a change; third to ex's office to drop off coat; fourth to Sunflower Market for groceries. The '03 with 72 gear. Beautiful day, 70F, somewhat humid at 26%, slight SSW wind, gently rolling -- from W Mesa down to river valley and up again toward the mountains, and back. Total time including stops 3:14:57 for an average, clock stopped of 12.29 mph (this includes shooting breeze with Ryan, shopping). The bike fit and felt perfectly; I felt energetic; the sky was clear, the women beautiful, the wine superbe and life was good. I should have brought a snack but did well enough with a bottle of weak tea with lots of honey. Replenished vital energies at Sunflower with a large handful of chocolate covered, cinnamon flavored, marshmallow bears. Of such very minor achievements are our lives made. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
Jim sorry about the crash. The human body is an amazing thing. Despite the stresses that we put ourselves through the body can recover from the worse. Having not had personal experience with anyone with a broken hip. I'm pretty sure that you'll be back on the bike in no time. In regards to the bike, if you were riding a Homer, the bike is most likely okay. Granted in the bike build by Rivendell and everyone know those things are made with special Elven powers. Wishing you the best recovery -Manny On Monday, April 9, 2012 6:51:47 PM UTC-7, Jim wrote: I was interested to see the thread on knee issues, as I have a similar question about hips. Unfortunately, last Friday night I was riding a bike lane downtown, and a car door opened up suddenly in front of me, which threw me and Homer to the ground. Homer came out fairly well, but I ended up with a broken femur that was surgically repaired the following day .Police investigated and the driver was cited, and I expect to be compensated by his auto insurance. Being in Boulder, nearly everyone taking care of me, including the surgeon, are avid bikers, and are assuring me that I will make a full recovery from this injury, probably back on the bike in a couple months. But I'd be interested if there are any of the folks like us out there (i'm 54 years old) that have gone through this and if they have any wisdom to provide, Also, when your bike is in a crash like that, I assume you should have a competent mechanic give it a through inspection to make sure things are ok. Any other words of wisdom for assuring the safety of a crashed bike? I'm finishing up day 2 after surgery and am doing well and feeling fine. Other than the hip, just a touch of road rash and a bruise from where my shoulder hit the door. This was a case where wearing the helmet probably saved me from a closed head injury. Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EkSo-VByqJAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Slightly Epic.
Not bad for the middle of the week! On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:32 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Modestly great, a minor success: I rode 40 miles today, the longest in one day since I did the Museum of Nat Hist organized 50 miler in September, 2004. Errands: first Mom to home to pick up Catie's coat; second to RS Watsons house to sell him something for a change; third to ex's office to drop off coat; fourth to Sunflower Market for groceries. The '03 with 72 gear. Beautiful day, 70F, somewhat humid at 26%, slight SSW wind, gently rolling -- from W Mesa down to river valley and up again toward the mountains, and back. Total time including stops 3:14:57 for an average, clock stopped of 12.29 mph (this includes shooting breeze with Ryan, shopping). The bike fit and felt perfectly; I felt energetic; the sky was clear, the women beautiful, the wine superbe and life was good. I should have brought a snack but did well enough with a bottle of weak tea with lots of honey. Replenished vital energies at Sunflower with a large handful of chocolate covered, cinnamon flavored, marshmallow bears. Of such very minor achievements are our lives made. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Knee trouble
Interesting conversation. I truly expect that one reason my knees are still fine is that I ride shorter distances at a time and cumulatively than many of the rest of you. My knees were fine on todays minimally extended 40 miler. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote: Yup, I'm up here in Sonoma County Getting Mellow, too Beth. I've got Osteoarthritis in my right knee and to a lesser degree in the left, but I used to enjoy fairly good knee health. There would be the occasional need for icing, but I used to joke that a little bit of swelling would keep things in place. My riding ranged from 200 to 300 miles a week in 40-50 mile bites. One or two of those rides were fixed gear. I never could hack the offroad single speed thing although the few times I did ride fixed offroad were a blast. My mom has had both her knees replaced and I have spent 25+ years working on the floor. If anything my bike riding helped my knees - even the fixed stuff - I never used an outrageously big gear. My riding now consists of getting around town, and a close-to-daily recreation/therapeutic ride of about 1.5-2 hours on flat ground. Though initially it was on my singlespeed, I've now got a Sturmey Archer B2C kickback hub that seems just right for me. 48/68 gear inches provides enough low to get me moving, and enough high to make it feel exciting. I think once I sell off a good portion of my bikes and gear I'll be looking forward to getting a Riv Simpleone, or whatever the present generation is, provided they build some my size. Phil B On Apr 9, 8:00 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 9, 11:29 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious to hear from oldsters (ie, older than young-uns like myself at a just-turned-57) who ride fixed or ss: how's y'all's knees? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Slightly Epic.
Alas, work is slow. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: Not bad for the middle of the week! On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:32 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Modestly great, a minor success: I rode 40 miles today, the longest in one day since I did the Museum of Nat Hist organized 50 miler in September, 2004. Errands: first Mom to home to pick up Catie's coat; second to RS Watsons house to sell him something for a change; third to ex's office to drop off coat; fourth to Sunflower Market for groceries. The '03 with 72 gear. Beautiful day, 70F, somewhat humid at 26%, slight SSW wind, gently rolling -- from W Mesa down to river valley and up again toward the mountains, and back. Total time including stops 3:14:57 for an average, clock stopped of 12.29 mph (this includes shooting breeze with Ryan, shopping). The bike fit and felt perfectly; I felt energetic; the sky was clear, the women beautiful, the wine superbe and life was good. I should have brought a snack but did well enough with a bottle of weak tea with lots of honey. Replenished vital energies at Sunflower with a large handful of chocolate covered, cinnamon flavored, marshmallow bears. Of such very minor achievements are our lives made. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne
For me, the most appealing thing about riding fixed -- and I am, for once, completely serious -- is that it gives you no other options when you reach that hill or turn into that wind except adapting your riding style to the new conditions. I never understood what they mean by feeling more 'at one' with a fixed gear; seems bogus to me but I am not dogmatic on this point. Again, the principal and great appeal of the fixed gear is precisely that it forces to to adapt, succumb, surrender, change, accept the challenge. [Serious mode off.] I further state, asseverate, insist, proclaim, announce and assert that fixed gears can certainly be wonderfully practical errand and commuter bikes! On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Imladris dgoldberger...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever I get the urge to own a fixie, I just start riding in one gear and never stop pedaling. Then, when I hit a steep uphill or downhill, the urge passes and I shift. ;-) As a practical question, why couldn't a Rambouillet (or a Roadeo) be set up as a single speed and converted back when you need gearing? The SimpleOne seems to be outside of the Rivendell velosophy of practical, but beautiful, bikes. Also, once you throw brakes on a fixie, you alienate the one demographic (in NYC, anyway) that seems to want to ride one. On Mar 25, 3:27 pm, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote: After only a week of riding my SimpleOne, I find it is fast becoming my favorite bike. I cannot pin down what quality it has that gives me such a joy to ride. I own a Rambouillet and a Surly LHT and it would be easy to make the argument that either one of those is way more practical for my purposes than the SimpleOne. I do love both of those bikes and would not easily give them up, but the SimpleOne has become my new best friend. I am grateful that I bought one before they disappeared. David Spranger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Slightly OT... FS: Old Schwinn steel children's bike (24 wheels)
I know this is slightly off topic, but I suspect that people on this list would appreciate this bike more than some random person on CL. http://imgur.com/a/Fv8rq I bought this bike some number of years ago, cleaned it up, and give it to my kids... it's been through two kids since then and is looking a bit rough again (mechanically it's fine, just showing surface rust/cable wear/etc again), but the style is in line with the interests of many Rivendell riders... since RivBike doesn't sell any kid's bikes this size I figured that it was worth posting here. My kids really enjoyed this bike and would always come back and tell me how much better it rode than their friends' bikes, and they used to manage as much as 20 mile days on it. It's only because they've both outgrown it that it's for sale. 39 cm seat-tube, 45.7 cm top-tube, ~66 cm standover The bike is in Folsom, CA (near Sacramento). I'd rather not ship it, but if you're near an Amtrak station they make it fairly easy to do, so I'll consider it. I can deliver it to the SF bay area, but it might be a few months before I go next. Price? Well, I don't really know what to say that it's worth, but I'll consider any serious offers. -Rex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne
I further state, asseverate, insist, proclaim, announce and assert that fixed gears can certainly be wonderfully practical errand and commuter bikes! I agree, absolutely. lyle On 10 April 2012 15:51, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: For me, the most appealing thing about riding fixed -- and I am, for once, completely serious -- is that it gives you no other options when you reach that hill or turn into that wind except adapting your riding style to the new conditions. I never understood what they mean by feeling more 'at one' with a fixed gear; seems bogus to me but I am not dogmatic on this point. Again, the principal and great appeal of the fixed gear is precisely that it forces to to adapt, succumb, surrender, change, accept the challenge. [Serious mode off.] I further state, asseverate, insist, proclaim, announce and assert that fixed gears can certainly be wonderfully practical errand and commuter bikes! On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Imladris dgoldberger...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever I get the urge to own a fixie, I just start riding in one gear and never stop pedaling. Then, when I hit a steep uphill or downhill, the urge passes and I shift. ;-) As a practical question, why couldn't a Rambouillet (or a Roadeo) be set up as a single speed and converted back when you need gearing? The SimpleOne seems to be outside of the Rivendell velosophy of practical, but beautiful, bikes. Also, once you throw brakes on a fixie, you alienate the one demographic (in NYC, anyway) that seems to want to ride one. On Mar 25, 3:27 pm, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote: After only a week of riding my SimpleOne, I find it is fast becoming my favorite bike. I cannot pin down what quality it has that gives me such a joy to ride. I own a Rambouillet and a Surly LHT and it would be easy to make the argument that either one of those is way more practical for my purposes than the SimpleOne. I do love both of those bikes and would not easily give them up, but the SimpleOne has become my new best friend. I am grateful that I bought one before they disappeared. David Spranger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Any New York Rivendellish shops?
Alas NYC has three kinds of shops. The hipster-tastic in Williamsburg, the touristy rent you a Giant Cruiser bike in Manhattan and the Hammerhead shops in the outerboroughs where HGH fueled muscleheads hang out and talk about how many frames they broke going down a hill really fast. I am sure someone else on here has more positive things to say but I learned to do all my own wrenching after having no luck with any shop in NYC. I can recommend Waterfront Bikes on the West Side Highway for rentals though, then you can hit the bike path there and see the beautiful people, if you like that sort of thing. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Planning on heading to New York with the lady friend for spring break. Like any good couple we already picked a day to ourselves where we get to see the beauty of New York without each other. (It's a interesting relationship I know but hey it works for us.) My general belief is that the best way to see a traffic ridden city is via bike. Not so sure if I want to bring my own bike to New York or if I want to rent one there. Anyone recommend any good bike shops to rent/see/visit/gawk at in the Big Apple? Better yet anyone free to take a spin while I'm there? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_O8juPnlK74J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any New York Rivendellish shops?
Try Hudson Urban Bicycles http://hudsonurbanbicycles.com/ in the West Village. Definitely not the typical road-bike-centric shops you see mostly in the city. I can check out the rental selection sometime for you if you are interested. Bike Works http://www.bikecult.com/works/index.html at the Lower East Side is my go-to LBS. It's a small shop, but you can see Surly, Soma and Nitto stuff. The owner Dave is a very reputable wheel builder. One worker there actually rides a RB-2. I'm not sure if they rent out any bikes though. What's your size, btw? Chris On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:32:48 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote: Planning on heading to New York with the lady friend for spring break. Like any good couple we already picked a day to ourselves where we get to see the beauty of New York without each other. (It's a interesting relationship I know but hey it works for us.) My general belief is that the best way to see a traffic ridden city is via bike. Not so sure if I want to bring my own bike to New York or if I want to rent one there. Anyone recommend any good bike shops to rent/see/visit/gawk at in the Big Apple? Better yet anyone free to take a spin while I'm there? -Manny On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:32:48 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote: Planning on heading to New York with the lady friend for spring break. Like any good couple we already picked a day to ourselves where we get to see the beauty of New York without each other. (It's a interesting relationship I know but hey it works for us.) My general belief is that the best way to see a traffic ridden city is via bike. Not so sure if I want to bring my own bike to New York or if I want to rent one there. Anyone recommend any good bike shops to rent/see/visit/gawk at in the Big Apple? Better yet anyone free to take a spin while I'm there? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uJ3yNXDE0MEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto R-14 top rack on a Roadeo: Sacrilege?
I think do what the box turtle would like the most. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
Thanks all for your support, I really appreciate it. NIce to hear more stories of hip injuries with full recoveries. I showed my surgeon a picture of Homer today, and he told me i'd be back up and riding just as I had before. Regarding helmets, one thing interesting to note, both the police and the driver's insurance investigator asked me if I was wearing one.That indicates to me that they weigh helmet usage in determining how to assign fault (like speed , they asked that too, to me and the eyewitnesses). As it turns out, the driver's insurance has accepted full responsibility. Jim in Boulder On Monday, April 9, 2012 7:51:47 PM UTC-6, Jim wrote: I was interested to see the thread on knee issues, as I have a similar question about hips. Unfortunately, last Friday night I was riding a bike lane downtown, and a car door opened up suddenly in front of me, which threw me and Homer to the ground. Homer came out fairly well, but I ended up with a broken femur that was surgically repaired the following day .Police investigated and the driver was cited, and I expect to be compensated by his auto insurance. Being in Boulder, nearly everyone taking care of me, including the surgeon, are avid bikers, and are assuring me that I will make a full recovery from this injury, probably back on the bike in a couple months. But I'd be interested if there are any of the folks like us out there (i'm 54 years old) that have gone through this and if they have any wisdom to provide, Also, when your bike is in a crash like that, I assume you should have a competent mechanic give it a through inspection to make sure things are ok. Any other words of wisdom for assuring the safety of a crashed bike? I'm finishing up day 2 after surgery and am doing well and feeling fine. Other than the hip, just a touch of road rash and a bruise from where my shoulder hit the door. This was a case where wearing the helmet probably saved me from a closed head injury. Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Db9SM0N1mlAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
I purchased the SimpleOne after hearing my wife rave for years about the ride of her Quickbeam. She was right. The SimpleOne is tremendously fun to ride and has that Riv feel that I like so much in my Atlantis and Rambouillet. It replaced a Kogswell singlespeed that was half the cost, and was fine, but not the blast that I get from the SimpleOne. I can see how it would be hard to sell to someone who is not an enthusiast. We talk regularly to people who are looking to buy a new bike and they are all fascinated with Surly right now, but even those seem pricey to them. They have to get past the bargain basement stuff on Craigslist, then move past Ebay, then Linus, etc. before they even consider a Surly. You'd be amazed at how many Linus singlespeeds are being pedaled around D.C. right now. There seems to be the prevailing attitude that singlespeeds should be cheap. Maybe it's the notion that the smart person buys a cheap beater frame and converts it to single speed or fixed gear, and that you're crazy to pay Rivendell prices for a new frameset. I don't even try to convince anyone of the value of the SimpleOne anymore -- it is way, way out of most peoples' price expectations. The tough economy is another factor that I think has contributed to the popularity of Linus and Surly, though they've raised prices as well. All said, I have to hand it to Grant to even bring the QB and SO to market. It's a brave act and one I'm grateful for. Ed Felker Washington, DC On Mar 25, 3:27 pm, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote: After only a week of riding my SimpleOne, I find it is fast becoming my favorite bike. I cannot pin down what quality it has that gives me such a joy to ride. I own a Rambouillet and a Surly LHT and it would be easy to make the argument that either one of those is way more practical for my purposes than the SimpleOne. I do love both of those bikes and would not easily give them up, but the SimpleOne has become my new best friend. I am grateful that I bought one before they disappeared. David Spranger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Any New York Rivendellish shops?
Hi Manny. I rented some bikes from a shop down near the West Village (http://www.bikeshopny.com/) and rode up along the Hudson River Greenway and into Central Park. We had a lot of fun. The shop is not very Rivendellish, but it's a nice starting and end point for a big loop of the city. Here are some pics: http://tinyurl.com/79c3zsd Best, Lee SF, CA On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Planning on heading to New York with the lady friend for spring break. Like any good couple we already picked a day to ourselves where we get to see the beauty of New York without each other. (It's a interesting relationship I know but hey it works for us.) My general belief is that the best way to see a traffic ridden city is via bike. Not so sure if I want to bring my own bike to New York or if I want to rent one there. Anyone recommend any good bike shops to rent/see/visit/gawk at in the Big Apple? Better yet anyone free to take a spin while I'm there? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_O8juPnlK74J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Mark's Rack
If anyone has one kicking around, I'd like to be the proud new owner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Cih0AMsFdc0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
... the body can recover from the worse. Having not had personal experience with anyone with a broken hip. I'm pretty sure that you'll be back on the bike in no time. Sorry Manny but that's crazy, careless talk! Sometimes the worst results in death. Jim, DO NOT RUSH your recovery! Be patient. You will most likely recover just fine. Manny, I hope you never have to experience a hip replacement. Just the dollar cost of my replacement was $346,000! On Apr 10, 12:38 pm, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Jim sorry about the crash. The human body is an amazing thing. Despite the stresses that we put ourselves through the body can recover from the worse. Having not had personal experience with anyone with a broken hip. I'm pretty sure that you'll be back on the bike in no time. In regards to the bike, if you were riding a Homer, the bike is most likely okay. Granted in the bike build by Rivendell and everyone know those things are made with special Elven powers. Wishing you the best recovery -Manny On Monday, April 9, 2012 6:51:47 PM UTC-7, Jim wrote: I was interested to see the thread on knee issues, as I have a similar question about hips. Unfortunately, last Friday night I was riding a bike lane downtown, and a car door opened up suddenly in front of me, which threw me and Homer to the ground. Homer came out fairly well, but I ended up with a broken femur that was surgically repaired the following day .Police investigated and the driver was cited, and I expect to be compensated by his auto insurance. Being in Boulder, nearly everyone taking care of me, including the surgeon, are avid bikers, and are assuring me that I will make a full recovery from this injury, probably back on the bike in a couple months. But I'd be interested if there are any of the folks like us out there (i'm 54 years old) that have gone through this and if they have any wisdom to provide, Also, when your bike is in a crash like that, I assume you should have a competent mechanic give it a through inspection to make sure things are ok. Any other words of wisdom for assuring the safety of a crashed bike? I'm finishing up day 2 after surgery and am doing well and feeling fine. Other than the hip, just a touch of road rash and a bruise from where my shoulder hit the door. This was a case where wearing the helmet probably saved me from a closed head injury. Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTB: Mark's Rack
Might have one for sale when I do a teardown for my bike for shipping..st On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone has one kicking around, I'd like to be the proud new owner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Cih0AMsFdc0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] titanium for touring
Boy did I get an eye opener today. Went out cycling- very windy, usually take my Atlantis for days like this, however Project Atlantis is still in the works. Took my Klein, got blown into gravel and fell over- no injury due to low speed and helmet bumping the concrete instead of head. I know that I would not have fallen on my Atlantis due to its stability. Which raises the question of someone taking a lightweight Titanium touring bike cross country. Friend is letting son do this, with trepidation. When we spoke a year ago my advice was obviously a steel bike. He recently told me he got a Salsa, Titanium bike. Went to their website and they do have one model they advertise for long distance touring- very light. Obviously they will have panniers to weigh the bike down, but the bike itself and thus the center of gravity is very light, although I know Titanium is strong. Does anyone know anything about touring with such a light bike. For some reason, I always felt that the weight of my Atlantis is what made it feel so safe no matter what the conditions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: titanium for touring
The weight of the frame of the bicycle has almost nothing to do with whether or not a rider is going to get blown into a ditch by wind. If somebody copied the identical geometry and clearances of your Atlantis in Titanium, and you then built it up with the same components and weighed it down with the same panniers and other cargo, your crosswind stability would be basically indistinguishable from a steel Atlantis. Independent Fabrication offers their Independence touring frameset in both steel and Ti with the claim of equivalent ride capabilities, which I believe. Will that Ti Salsa be a good touring bike? Dunno. If it turns out to be a lousy touring bike, it will not be because the frame weighs too little. A racing bike converted to touring might not be a good choice. Even a cyclocross bike used as a substitute touring bike can be a questionable choice, but thousands of happy tours have been done on suboptimal bikes. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:35:43 PM UTC-7, dr...@charter.net wrote: Boy did I get an eye opener today. Went out cycling- very windy, usually take my Atlantis for days like this, however Project Atlantis is still in the works. Took my Klein, got blown into gravel and fell over- no injury due to low speed and helmet bumping the concrete instead of head. I know that I would not have fallen on my Atlantis due to its stability. Which raises the question of someone taking a lightweight Titanium touring bike cross country. Friend is letting son do this, with trepidation. When we spoke a year ago my advice was obviously a steel bike. He recently told me he got a Salsa, Titanium bike. Went to their website and they do have one model they advertise for long distance touring- very light. Obviously they will have panniers to weigh the bike down, but the bike itself and thus the center of gravity is very light, although I know Titanium is strong. Does anyone know anything about touring with such a light bike. For some reason, I always felt that the weight of my Atlantis is what made it feel so safe no matter what the conditions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qTaziiWqn64J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] titanium for touring
Stability is more a function of wheelbase and steering geometry and traction than it is a few pounds of bike weight. Besides your touring bike would generally have 40+ lbs of gear strapped to it, which makes a light bike into a heavy bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Vd5iy2oIv70J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTB: Mark's Rack
Sounds good Peter, please keep me posted. That was fast! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JfQJ0tJ7RUMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
Ed wrote ... I have to hand it to Grant to even bring the QB and SO to market. Hear Hear, and put me down for grateful too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Slightly Epic.
Very nice and epic. I've done 40 miles single speed, but never fixed. And your gear is considerably higher than mine. Too bad for the slow business, but at least the weather is nice. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN (where it was barely into the 40's today with a somewhat brisk NW wind. Enough so wished I had a jacket over the Rivendell wool jersey on my ride after work.) On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:42:48 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Alas, work is slow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/T_jf5zJqMMAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
Am I a moron or is a femur a leg bone? I thought that was the injury here. On Apr 10, 2012 7:08 PM, SISDDWG dgen...@gmail.com wrote: ... the body can recover from the worse. Having not had personal experience with anyone with a broken hip. I'm pretty sure that you'll be back on the bike in no time. Sorry Manny but that's crazy, careless talk! Sometimes the worst results in death. Jim, DO NOT RUSH your recovery! Be patient. You will most likely recover just fine. Manny, I hope you never have to experience a hip replacement. Just the dollar cost of my replacement was $346,000! On Apr 10, 12:38 pm, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Jim sorry about the crash. The human body is an amazing thing. Despite the stresses that we put ourselves through the body can recover from the worse. Having not had personal experience with anyone with a broken hip. I'm pretty sure that you'll be back on the bike in no time. In regards to the bike, if you were riding a Homer, the bike is most likely okay. Granted in the bike build by Rivendell and everyone know those things are made with special Elven powers. Wishing you the best recovery -Manny On Monday, April 9, 2012 6:51:47 PM UTC-7, Jim wrote: I was interested to see the thread on knee issues, as I have a similar question about hips. Unfortunately, last Friday night I was riding a bike lane downtown, and a car door opened up suddenly in front of me, which threw me and Homer to the ground. Homer came out fairly well, but I ended up with a broken femur that was surgically repaired the following day .Police investigated and the driver was cited, and I expect to be compensated by his auto insurance. Being in Boulder, nearly everyone taking care of me, including the surgeon, are avid bikers, and are assuring me that I will make a full recovery from this injury, probably back on the bike in a couple months. But I'd be interested if there are any of the folks like us out there (i'm 54 years old) that have gone through this and if they have any wisdom to provide, Also, when your bike is in a crash like that, I assume you should have a competent mechanic give it a through inspection to make sure things are ok. Any other words of wisdom for assuring the safety of a crashed bike? I'm finishing up day 2 after surgery and am doing well and feeling fine. Other than the hip, just a touch of road rash and a bruise from where my shoulder hit the door. This was a case where wearing the helmet probably saved me from a closed head injury. Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
Was that way myself until a about a year ago. Over the past couple years have been on rides with folks riding single speed (or fixed gear) bikes and was jealous, for lack of a better term. Especially on the SoCal Riv Ride back in 2009. Was really yearning for a Quickbeam by the end of the ride. Decided after getting a Cross Check last year to give it a try. Had Jim Thill build a wheel and put it on the bike. And took it for a ride. Then another. Then another. I liked it. A lot. There are some limitations with my single speed riding - climbing is slower and will often look for alternate route rather than heading for steep hills. Then again can probably get around 90 percent of the Twin Cities metro area without having to do an ugly (to me) climb. And climbing even out of my side street in winter with studded tires was more chore than I'd like. But overall, it's a fun alternative to shifting. Plus, a single speed is a great excuse why I can't keep up with faster riders. Which is just about every body else out there. Eric Platt (Counting down the days until next Monday) On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:32:22 PM UTC-5, Way Rebb wrote: The last single speed I had was as a kid and his StingRay. Getting a bike with gears was a revelation. I remember actually riding, not pushing the bike, up 73rd in Oakland with a big smile on my face. I doubt, in fact I know, I'd never get a single speed. I can get the same effect by not changing gears for a while. Maybe if it had all the braze ons for a Rohloff or something like that. Some people seem to like them, just not for me. On Apr 9, 7:11 pm, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Jim writes: People think single-speed and in the same thought they think beater or winter bike or bar bike or whatever other utilitarian, un-romantic category applies. I figure Jim's dealt with way more folks buying bikes than I have so I wouldn't take issue with him about what people in the aggregate think. But I sure don't think that way. When I got my first ss/fixed bike (after grade school that is), I was concerned about winter in the midwest. I didn't want rear derailers freezing up packed full of slush. I wanted fenders so I wouldn't get covered with slush. I thought the 1/8th inch chain would lower the loads and wear better. But I wasn't particularly thinking cheep. I got campi track hubs, moderate weight tubular rims, suntour superbe cranks, lyotard platform pedals (ok they weren't expensive but they were nice), and chinelli bar and stem. If I could have afforded a better frame I think I would have. I understand fear of theft driving a desire for cheep. But not fear of the elements. I have never hesitated to take a nice bike out into the rain or snow because I was afraid it would get wrecked. I also see no conflict between utilitarian and aesthetics/elegance/beauty etc. Have you ever used snap-on tools? Clearly not enough people will pay 1k for a dedicated SS frame and fork to support the SO/QB in the marketplace. I just find it odd if thats not because almost nobody (outside of hipsterdom which, as noted previously, has a different aesthetic) really knows they like riding em. Of course I think lots of things are odd. On Apr 9, 3:16 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Also, in reference to Ted's comment about the Cross-check being more an analog to the Hillborne than to the SO: That's definitely true if you're talking about the Cross-check as a geared bike. In that case, the two bikes have a lot of similarities, except one looks fancier and costs $600 more (for the frameset only). The price difference is more profound if you compare the CC stock complete bike to a similarly equipped Hillborne, which is not available as a mass-market complete bike. But lots of people, for various reasons, think the price difference on the Riv is plenty acceptable. Lots of people are willing to shell out for a special bike. Cool. But single-speeds are different. People think single-speed and in the same thought they think beater or winter bike or bar bike or whatever other utilitarian, un-romantic category applies. In that case, you look at that $600 price difference and you think about rust and dents, and that Surly, what it lacks in panache, it makes up in ruggedness and, ultimately, in the worst case scenario, replaceability. In the case of single-speeds, the preciousness that many of us assign to Rivendell bicycles is a drawback. And that's why I say more mundane frames like the CC make it hard to sell the QB/SO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hScuxbQe6RoJ. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Using modern derailers
I was wondering if anybody is using modern 10 speed derailers with friction shifting? I have some Ultegra 6700 derailers and was thinking about replacing the aging LX long cage rear on my Sam Hillborne with it. I may replace the Sugino crank and install the Ultegra crank too but don't really know about that yet, I'm more interested in using the derailers. I am using Phil Rivy hubs with a 7 speed freewheel in the rear, Sram 8 speed chain and shifting using Silver bar end shifters. Any issues with using 10 speed derailers with 8 speed chain or 7 speed freewheel that you can think of? (the LX was always a bit too long in the cage area and the gearing I am using I can get away with a medium cage like the Ultegra I have so I don't see that as too much of an issue.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N_uLQBfwAjEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:41:13 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Am I a moron or is a femur a leg bone? I thought that was the injury here. It's the upper leg, the thigh bone... your hip is where your femur meets your pelvis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4l1odrqVYB0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Knee trouble
Twentysome years ago, signed up for the Marine infantry, in the reserves a year before starting into college at the same time. The attitude of the Corps for infantry reserves is, we only have you for a few days a month, so we're gonna flog ya hard to keep you up-to-snuff. Lots of 20-mile humps w/ not-so-light rucks and gear, over not-so-smooth terrain. Fivish years later, while on my college's fencing team, I was having some knee problems, and my family practitioner happened to have been an orthopedic surgeon in the Army during Vietnam. Finally he just out and said, if I didn't get out of the Marines, I'd be arthritic by the time I was 30. I'd had a shift in direction, no longer planning to be an officer anymore, became a geologist (happy move). So, I finished out my six and parted ways w/ the Corps, on to grad school. Bought me better than a decade... My knees would creak and pop, but nothing startling. Until this past year, as I've turned 40, my right knee now has gotten 'crunchy'. Not through 'normal' range of movement, walking or sitting, but, if I squat down to lift something off of the ground using my legs (keeping my back straight!), my knee is very audible, like you're wadding up cellophane. A couple of months ago, my physician took a set of x-rays to have a baseline on-hand, to go forward with... + + + And, this kinda ties back to the crank discussion, so I'm torn about posting this question here, or in the crank-thread... Think I'll put it over there -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/V_1y598mgCkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers
As long as you can thread some 8-speed chain through the rear derailer pulleys without scraping the sides of the cage, I don't see a problem using it. I don't recommend changing the front, though. My experience with 9-speed derailers and 8-speed chains is that a lot of trimming is involved because of the narrow front cage. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 6:17:13 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote: I was wondering if anybody is using modern 10 speed derailers with friction shifting? I have some Ultegra 6700 derailers and was thinking about replacing the aging LX long cage rear on my Sam Hillborne with it. I may replace the Sugino crank and install the Ultegra crank too but don't really know about that yet, I'm more interested in using the derailers. I am using Phil Rivy hubs with a 7 speed freewheel in the rear, Sram 8 speed chain and shifting using Silver bar end shifters. Any issues with using 10 speed derailers with 8 speed chain or 7 speed freewheel that you can think of? (the LX was always a bit too long in the cage area and the gearing I am using I can get away with a medium cage like the Ultegra I have so I don't see that as too much of an issue.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Uo_N_Hz3VasJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] titanium for touring
Wheel and tire choice are the best places to start - then frame type/rack construction etc. 1.75 x 26 tires are a good choice. There's not too many cheap options unless you go old mountain bike frame. The Surly LHT offers the option though. Mind you I rode 32,000km over some terrible roads and through some insane winds on a sport tourer on 700 x 35mm tires. Made it work. Next time 26 wheels though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3ZKfP8auw4gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] titanium for touring
Add the weight of the rider and the difference even between a 14 lb carbon fiber bicycle and a 25 lb steel bicycle is insignificant with regard to c-o-g and wind balance; 9 lb would certainly make a difference on hills and when accelerating, considering the bicycles unladen, of course. Not too long ago I rode in 45 gust to 56 and, at the worst, riding sideways to the gusts, had the bike pushed toward the wall along the edge of a bridge, but I was never in any real danger of being blown over. The worst thing was the sandblasting. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:35 PM, dr...@charter.net dr...@charter.net wrote: Boy did I get an eye opener today. Went out cycling- very windy, usually take my Atlantis for days like this, however Project Atlantis is still in the works. Took my Klein, got blown into gravel and fell over- no injury due to low speed and helmet bumping the concrete instead of head. I know that I would not have fallen on my Atlantis due to its stability. Which raises the question of someone taking a lightweight Titanium touring bike cross country. Friend is letting son do this, with trepidation. When we spoke a year ago my advice was obviously a steel bike. He recently told me he got a Salsa, Titanium bike. Went to their website and they do have one model they advertise for long distance touring- very light. Obviously they will have panniers to weigh the bike down, but the bike itself and thus the center of gravity is very light, although I know Titanium is strong. Does anyone know anything about touring with such a light bike. For some reason, I always felt that the weight of my Atlantis is what made it feel so safe no matter what the conditions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] titanium for touring
I should add that one bike may well suffer more from wind than another, but I doubt it is a difference in weight that causes the difference in effect. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Add the weight of the rider and the difference even between a 14 lb carbon fiber bicycle and a 25 lb steel bicycle is insignificant with regard to c-o-g and wind balance; 9 lb would certainly make a difference on hills and when accelerating, considering the bicycles unladen, of course. Not too long ago I rode in 45 gust to 56 and, at the worst, riding sideways to the gusts, had the bike pushed toward the wall along the edge of a bridge, but I was never in any real danger of being blown over. The worst thing was the sandblasting. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:35 PM, dr...@charter.net dr...@charter.net wrote: Boy did I get an eye opener today. Went out cycling- very windy, usually take my Atlantis for days like this, however Project Atlantis is still in the works. Took my Klein, got blown into gravel and fell over- no injury due to low speed and helmet bumping the concrete instead of head. I know that I would not have fallen on my Atlantis due to its stability. Which raises the question of someone taking a lightweight Titanium touring bike cross country. Friend is letting son do this, with trepidation. When we spoke a year ago my advice was obviously a steel bike. He recently told me he got a Salsa, Titanium bike. Went to their website and they do have one model they advertise for long distance touring- very light. Obviously they will have panniers to weigh the bike down, but the bike itself and thus the center of gravity is very light, although I know Titanium is strong. Does anyone know anything about touring with such a light bike. For some reason, I always felt that the weight of my Atlantis is what made it feel so safe no matter what the conditions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Knee trouble
Changed my mind that thread over on i-bob seems to have gotten a bit heated... My Ram has a 172.5 crank (Dura Ace triple, 53/39/30 rings, with a 11-32 9sp cassette), as a baseline. No problems... I usually stay on my 53 ring when cruising, drop to the 39 for climbs (try to reserve the 30 for steeper climbs). I'd gotten a Sugino XD2 triple (48/36/24 w/ a 11-34 9sp), but in 175, for the Bomba. Different bike, different tires, different feel, but that's okay. Slower cadence, not a problem, mostly.But, occasionally, on shallow climbs where I'm not shifting off of the 48, but instead am mashing through it, I feel a bit of a twinge in my knee. Quit mashing, lighten up, twinge ceases. The crank length may not have one iota to do with it, but, I've wondered, if I'd be better off switching down to the same length crank. Or, even on down to 170? (32 inseam, 87.6 PBH, FWIW). Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tafwj0aZH8QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
Ah because I had plastic hip stories, ie don't get one. On Apr 10, 2012 9:25 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:41:13 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Am I a moron or is a femur a leg bone? I thought that was the injury here. It's the upper leg, the thigh bone... your hip is where your femur meets your pelvis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4l1odrqVYB0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Using modern derailers
I've never found a rear derailler that couldn't shift any given cogset -- well, perhaps the old Benelux pull chain one I used on my first conversion years ago. That said, I've not used a 10 sp rd, but I have shifted 10 in friction using Retrofictions -- no problems; quite the contrary, the shifting was excellent. Old 8 sp era Dura Ace rd. I have used 10 sp chains on everything from fixed gears through 7/8/9/10 with no problems. However, you might find that an 8 sp chain's pins extend to far beyond the plates to fit through the derailleur cages without striking them. Use a 9 or 10 sp chain. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 7:17 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anybody is using modern 10 speed derailers with friction shifting? I have some Ultegra 6700 derailers and was thinking about replacing the aging LX long cage rear on my Sam Hillborne with it. I may replace the Sugino crank and install the Ultegra crank too but don't really know about that yet, I'm more interested in using the derailers. I am using Phil Rivy hubs with a 7 speed freewheel in the rear, Sram 8 speed chain and shifting using Silver bar end shifters. Any issues with using 10 speed derailers with 8 speed chain or 7 speed freewheel that you can think of? (the LX was always a bit too long in the cage area and the gearing I am using I can get away with a medium cage like the Ultegra I have so I don't see that as too much of an issue.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N_uLQBfwAjEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne
Amen to that one! I use it whenever I am passed by a younger man or woman on a racing bike. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Plus, a single speed is a great excuse why I can't keep up with faster riders. Which is just about every body else out there. Eric Platt (Counting down the days until next Monday) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
I have even had them (the faster faster folks I mean) volunteer it for me. They have said you ran out of gear or some such with out any prodding. Sadly I know I'd of been dropped no matter how big a gear I had. On Apr 10, 7:25 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Amen to that one! I use it whenever I am passed by a younger man or woman on a racing bike. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Plus, a single speed is a great excuse why I can't keep up with faster riders. Which is just about every body else out there. Eric Platt (Counting down the days until next Monday) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Using modern derailers
I have friction downtube shifters on my Riv Road with Campy 9-speed. Works fine--I don't miss Ergo shifting at all. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 4S On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:17 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anybody is using modern 10 speed derailers with friction shifting? I have some Ultegra 6700 derailers and was thinking about replacing the aging LX long cage rear on my Sam Hillborne with it. I may replace the Sugino crank and install the Ultegra crank too but don't really know about that yet, I'm more interested in using the derailers. I am using Phil Rivy hubs with a 7 speed freewheel in the rear, Sram 8 speed chain and shifting using Silver bar end shifters. Any issues with using 10 speed derailers with 8 speed chain or 7 speed freewheel that you can think of? (the LX was always a bit too long in the cage area and the gearing I am using I can get away with a medium cage like the Ultegra I have so I don't see that as too much of an issue.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N_uLQBfwAjEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Using modern derailers
This combo is working fine on my Rawland rSogn: 10-speed SRAM X0 MTB rear derailleur IRD CD front derailleur 10-speed SRAM chain 8-speed Shimano cassette Suntour friction downtube shifters - David G, Madison WI On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anybody is using modern 10 speed derailers with friction shifting? I have some Ultegra 6700 derailers and was thinking about replacing the aging LX long cage rear on my Sam Hillborne with it. I may replace the Sugino crank and install the Ultegra crank too but don't really know about that yet, I'm more interested in using the derailers. I am using Phil Rivy hubs with a 7 speed freewheel in the rear, Sram 8 speed chain and shifting using Silver bar end shifters. Any issues with using 10 speed derailers with 8 speed chain or 7 speed freewheel that you can think of? (the LX was always a bit too long in the cage area and the gearing I am using I can get away with a medium cage like the Ultegra I have so I don't see that as too much of an issue.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: titanium for touring
drnat: Glad you were not injured in the blow over. Helmet bumping concrete is a graphic description. I've fought bikes in cross-winds it's not fun. At least my Atlantis allows me to wrestle it down the road in those conditions. Better get yours back on the road! The frame material and the weight of the bare frame are not indicative of suitability for touring. The geometry (is this particular frame designed for touring?) and the wheels tires are major contributors to stability (or lack thereof). If the frame is can take at 35mm or greater tires and has the relaxed geometry of an Atlantis, then it's suitable for touring. Many years ago, Rivendell commented that the Atlantis frame is ...about 1 lb more than our other frames... but that was before the Bomba, HungP, etc. Assume any Riv is a bit heavier than a comparable bike designed with weight in mind, then my (uneducated) guess is an Atlantis/HungP/Bomba frame may be 2-3 lbs heavier (if that?) than something else. Add the same components, strap on 40 lbs of touring luggage, and that small frame weight difference is undetectable. dougp On Apr 10, 4:35 pm, dr...@charter.net dr...@charter.net wrote: Boy did I get an eye opener today. Went out cycling- very windy, usually take my Atlantis for days like this, however Project Atlantis is still in the works. Took my Klein, got blown into gravel and fell over- no injury due to low speed and helmet bumping the concrete instead of head. I know that I would not have fallen on my Atlantis due to its stability. Which raises the question of someone taking a lightweight Titanium touring bike cross country. Friend is letting son do this, with trepidation. When we spoke a year ago my advice was obviously a steel bike. He recently told me he got a Salsa, Titanium bike. Went to their website and they do have one model they advertise for long distance touring- very light. Obviously they will have panniers to weigh the bike down, but the bike itself and thus the center of gravity is very light, although I know Titanium is strong. Does anyone know anything about touring with such a light bike. For some reason, I always felt that the weight of my Atlantis is what made it feel so safe no matter what the conditions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers
Bike aesthetics are not that high on my list of priorities but that Ultegra crank is damn ugly, even to me. Use the derailers but stick with the Sugino, IMHO. jim m wc ca On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 6:17:13 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote: I was wondering if anybody is using modern 10 speed derailers with friction shifting? I have some Ultegra 6700 derailers and was thinking about replacing the aging LX long cage rear on my Sam Hillborne with it. I may replace the Sugino crank and install the Ultegra crank too but don't really know about that yet, I'm more interested in using the derailers. I am using Phil Rivy hubs with a 7 speed freewheel in the rear, Sram 8 speed chain and shifting using Silver bar end shifters. Any issues with using 10 speed derailers with 8 speed chain or 7 speed freewheel that you can think of? (the LX was always a bit too long in the cage area and the gearing I am using I can get away with a medium cage like the Ultegra I have so I don't see that as too much of an issue.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BD-S42qamRoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
