Re: [RBW] Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

[Fai Mao]

I  agree with Patrick. I've thought that Riv bags were very expensive. Far
more so than I was willing to pay in most cases. I don't like having a bike
that looks attractive to thieves and a really expensive looking bag just
screams "Steal me" Plus, I commute on a bicycle and would rather that my
bike be cheaper than an automobile to maintain. Granted, I haven't driven a
car since 1996 so the cost of auto-maintenance may have gone up.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:11 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> I wish they'd re-issue their original, cheap saddlebag made from the
> original burrito waxed cotton cloth. I recently got one from a fellow
> RBW-er or iBobber. Sorry, the best photo I have is here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5522534402352991554
>
> Sturdy, just the right size, inexpensive, no chi-chi. Needless to say,
> it works very well as a small bar bag.
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Eric  wrote:
> > I've watched with great anticipation some great older Riv bags on
> > eBay.
> >
> > Recently, this handlebar bag fetched more than $200
> >
> > Found here:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320611490808&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
> >
> > Another Baggins style saddle bag fetched close to $180 on eBay. So
> > obviously there is a demand for well designed bags, as the way Acorn
> > bags are in stock for what seems like seconds. And I'm a more recent
> > Riv aficionado so I missed out on buying 'em.
> >
> > Anyways, why doesn't Riv reissue these bags?
> >
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Re: [RBW] AHH on order

[Fai Mao]

Phil hubs are worth it if you have the cash for them. They never wear out
and look good.
A less expensive option would be something like a DT-Swiss 370

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:16 AM, dhk42  wrote:

> First post!
>
> I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my
> potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed
> an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen.
>
> Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have
> enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course.
> Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and
> the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on
> the topic. :-)
>
> But hey! It is not too late to talk about components.
>
> So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7" 250lb 45
> year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that
> fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a
> long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails,
> and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never
> get really serious about hard core off roading.  I have no plans to do
> lots of touring.
>
> First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?
>
> David
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[Dan Abelson]

> I've got two Riv custom fixies, but I'd love a Riv-made fixie to
> replace the (admittedly rather nice, but still not Riv) '73 Grand
> Record I use as a grocery fixie. So, tell me: what is the difference
> between Simple One and QB, and when is the SO due? And, will it be
> available as a frameset?
>
> --
>

My understanding is that the Simple One is essentially a Taiwanese
made version of the no longer available Quickbeam.  I do not believe
there are significant changes from the Quickbeam but I am not sure.

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[EastBayGuy]

Man all of this talk makes me want to pursue a Beam.

Any one have a 58 or 60 they want to part with?

Cheers!!

Eastbayguy

WAlnut Creek Ca

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[swenindy]

Nice to hear all the QB love.  I got a first year green one five
(six?) years ago on ebay for a deal and I can't say exactly but it it
has to have over 10,000 miles on it from me and it was already well
ridden by the previous owner.  I've built three vintage touring bikes
and a couple of other bikes in the last few years and they all sit un-
ridden until I strip them down and sell off the parts and frames.  Now
I only have the QB and a late-80s mountain bike with albatross bars
and big baskets front and rear for my short daily commute (one mile,
bummer) and grocery runs.  I can't explain it but no other bike
"feels" like the QB.  Fast, stable, amazing.  I rode it 3k this summer
alone (estimated because I don't have a computer or racks, just a old
big baggins saddle bag for when I need to transport a couple of
bombers of home brew to a friend's house).  I'm saving for a
Hunqua...but it could be a while.

pics some time.

and to the OP: what is the stem/bar set up?  I run a short nitto stem
and the wide noodle bars but I'm thinking of going higher and that
looks sweet.

b

On Nov 8, 6:03 pm, Mojo  wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> I can't speak to your questions. But as another data point, I have to
> say I don't like my Q ride as much as the 2001/Curt road custom, or
> the 2009/Waterford Legolas. The Q doesn't feel as lively as those
> frames *to me.* Not that the single speed format isn't fun and not
> that I don't enjoy my Q rides.  I haven't done my homework to compare
> tubing, but the Q from pure frame weight alone must have thicker
> walled tubes. I am suggesting you may not like the SimpleOne ride
> since you are spoiled by your customs. But of course YMMV
>
> On Nov 8, 1:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Dan Abelson  wrote:
>
> > > While I have 2 nice bikes in addition to my Quickbeam (a AHH and a
> > > Crosscheck), the Quickbeam is my favorite and my go to bike.  There is
> > > something magical (to me at least) about the ride.    I like it so
> > > much that I was seriously contemplating whether I should get a Simple
> > > One frame when it comes out just to keep as a backup in case something
> > > ever happens to my Quickbeam (I don't think that is in the cards -- I
> > > don't think my SO would buy that logic).
>
> > I've got two Riv custom fixies, but I'd love a Riv-made fixie to
> > replace the (admittedly rather nice, but still not Riv) '73 Grand
> > Record I use as a grocery fixie. So, tell me: what is the difference
> > between Simple One and QB, and when is the SO due? And, will it be
> > available as a frameset?

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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

[E.B.]

"Phil hubs - are they worth it?"

Well, they're not for everyone.

Shimano makes a nice hub, and a set of XT hubs can be had for well
under the cost of a Phil front hub.  An overhaul requires only a few
dollars in bearings and grease.  Since they're designed with the off-
road rider in mind, they feature better seals than Shimano road hubs,
and I believe current XT freehubs have 10-degree engagement (a
gratuitous selling point for the non-offroader, perhaps).  Shimano
also has a solid reputation for offering very good quality for
reasonable prices.

But, those XT bearing seals won't stop everything.  When water is able
to deliver contaminants to the hub bearings, an overhaul is
necessary.  Even when you don't ride in harsh conditions, Shimano hubs
need regular cleaning and regreasing.  Either you need to pay a local
mechanic to do this for you, or you need to take on the task.  It's
not terribly difficult, but it's more involved than some people want
to get, and you've got to get the adjustment right to avoid damaging
the hubs.

Phil hubs are quite different, and the difference is more than the
finish.  Cartridge bearings aren't intended to be serviced, though
you'll sometimes hear of folks pulling the seals away to add grease to
the bearings.  Don't know how well that works out.  You run the
bearings until they need replacement with new cartridges, available
from Phil, your LBS or a bearing supply house.  I haven't replaced my
bearings yet, but the process is well described by Phil for user
serviceability.  The axles are robust, to say the least.  Phil is
known for superb customer service and standing behind their product.
With bearing replacement and the less frequent freehub replacement,
you could ride these to the end of your riding days.

But the biggest reason I think a Phil hub would be worth your
consideration is the option of building a 40-spoke rear wheel.  At 250-
lbs with the intention of some unpaved riding, this would be
reassuring.  I don't see 40-hole hubs or rims offered on RBW's site,
but they could possibly get them for a build for you.  Talk to Rich,
Peter White and others to get their impressions.  If they convince you
a strong 36-spoke wheel can handle your needs, then you have various
options for hubs.  But if a 40-spoke is preferable, then you're
probably only looking at Phil or White Industries as options.

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Re: [RBW] Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

[cyclotourist]

It's a way to avoid the wrath of Peter Jackson's attorneys.

Barristers of the Shire are no joke!


On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
> my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
> changes model names and house brands the way they do?
>
> The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
> design.
> The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
> its name.
> The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
> Redwood.
> Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.
>
> On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
> unchanged even in color (as far as I know).
>
> Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
> bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
> price points on similar bikes?
>
> Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
>  Philip
>
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[RBW] Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

[Philip Williamson]

I've wondered about this for a while, and it's been percolating around
my brain for a couple of days in earnest. Why do you think Rivendell
changes model names and house brands the way they do?

The "Quickbeam" is now the "SimpleOne," but it appears to be the same
design.
The Bombadil changed from a double top tube to a diaga-tube and kept
its name.
The Romulus' two tallest sizes were a whole 'nother model, the
Redwood.
Bagginses out, Sackvilles in.

On the other hand, the Atlantis has been in production for a decade,
unchanged even in color (as far as I know).

Do you think it's just for fun? Is there's a magic notebook of awesome
bike names that Grant is working through? Is it a way to differentiate
price points on similar bikes?

Hoping I'm not the only one who wonders these things,
 Philip

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[Philip Williamson]

I am enamored of the Legolas and the Roadeo, but I've never ridden
either. I'm tempted to buy every Quickbeam that comes up in my size,
though. kind of how when you see a favorite album at the used record
store, you think "oh, I should get this!"

 Philip

 Philip Williamson
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On Nov 8, 3:03 pm, Mojo  wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> I can't speak to your questions. But as another data point, I have to
> say I don't like my Q ride as much as the 2001/Curt road custom, or
> the 2009/Waterford Legolas. The Q doesn't feel as lively as those
> frames *to me.* Not that the single speed format isn't fun and not
> that I don't enjoy my Q rides.  I haven't done my homework to compare
> tubing, but the Q from pure frame weight alone must have thicker
> walled tubes. I am suggesting you may not like the SimpleOne ride
> since you are spoiled by your customs. But of course YMMV
>
> On Nov 8, 1:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Dan Abelson  wrote:
>
> > > While I have 2 nice bikes in addition to my Quickbeam (a AHH and a
> > > Crosscheck), the Quickbeam is my favorite and my go to bike.  There is
> > > something magical (to me at least) about the ride.    I like it so
> > > much that I was seriously contemplating whether I should get a Simple
> > > One frame when it comes out just to keep as a backup in case something
> > > ever happens to my Quickbeam (I don't think that is in the cards -- I
> > > don't think my SO would buy that logic).
>
> > I've got two Riv custom fixies, but I'd love a Riv-made fixie to
> > replace the (admittedly rather nice, but still not Riv) '73 Grand
> > Record I use as a grocery fixie. So, tell me: what is the difference
> > between Simple One and QB, and when is the SO due? And, will it be
> > available as a frameset?

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[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

[Philip Williamson]

That was very cool. I watched it about four times to figure out what
was going on. I think I need to watch it again to be sure.

 Philip

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On Nov 8, 8:30 pm, Horace  wrote:
> awesome!
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, manueljohnacosta <
>
> manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.youtube.com/user/RivBikeWorks#p/a/u/1/Wml2dlvaZzM
>
> > From the great folks at rivendell
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Re: [RBW] What's your winter project?

[Seth Vidal]

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gino Zahnd  wrote:
> I ride all winter.


Let me fix that for you:

"winter"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chico,_California#Climate

:-D

-sv

ps: I have no room to talk, I live in NC. :)

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Kevin Turinsky]

Resurrect my original 1986 Ritchey Timbercomp by adding an Xtracycle
to it.

On Nov 8, 5:34 pm, Gino Zahnd  wrote:
> I ride all winter.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:10 AM, William  wrote:
> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > project?  Take on a restoration?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Thanks. Perhaps I'd better stick to the Motobecane which, with its
light 531 tubing, has a frame that is actually lighter than my
customs'. And it handles well, tho' not like the customs. I'll wait
for road reports of the Simple One.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Mojo  wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> I can't speak to your questions. But as another data point, I have to
> say I don't like my Q ride as much as the 2001/Curt road custom, or
> the 2009/Waterford Legolas. The Q doesn't feel as lively as those
> frames *to me.* Not that the single speed format isn't fun and not
> that I don't enjoy my Q rides.  I haven't done my homework to compare
> tubing, but the Q from pure frame weight alone must have thicker
> walled tubes. I am suggesting you may not like the SimpleOne ride
> since you are spoiled by your customs. But of course YMMV
>
>
> On Nov 8, 1:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Dan Abelson  wrote:
>>
>> > While I have 2 nice bikes in addition to my Quickbeam (a AHH and a
>> > Crosscheck), the Quickbeam is my favorite and my go to bike.  There is
>> > something magical (to me at least) about the ride.    I like it so
>> > much that I was seriously contemplating whether I should get a Simple
>> > One frame when it comes out just to keep as a backup in case something
>> > ever happens to my Quickbeam (I don't think that is in the cards -- I
>> > don't think my SO would buy that logic).
>>
>> I've got two Riv custom fixies, but I'd love a Riv-made fixie to
>> replace the (admittedly rather nice, but still not Riv) '73 Grand
>> Record I use as a grocery fixie. So, tell me: what is the difference
>> between Simple One and QB, and when is the SO due? And, will it be
>> available as a frameset?
>
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[Robert Harrison]

Thatt was supposed to say "without hills" not "with w hills." sigh. 

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:30 PM, "Robert F. Harrison"  wrote:

> My QB has grown into my primary bike in the year that I've owned it.
> For the first few months i was much warier of using everywhere and
> would ride my beater if I was going to have to park it outside for
> long. After a while I just ended up preferring the ride so much that I
> ride it pretty much exclusively these days. I still have beater (a
> single sped converted from an old 90's ATB), a Giant Sedona I'm going
> to donate to the local university bike co-op, a Bike Friday I take in
> trips (it has been to Walnut Creek from Honolulu), and an old Raleigh
> road bike in the Big Island.
> 
> My only complaint has been using my QB on camping trips. I did a 3
> night 250 total miles tirip with no trouble but I think I might have
> like a bike with deraillers for that.
> 
> Still its primary purpose is a city commuter in a city with w hills so
> it's darn near perfect.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4339440167
> 
> 
> Aloha, Bob
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, November 5, 2010, Philip Williamson
>  wrote:
>> I was looking at A D's fantastic SimpleOne: 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/livepake/5133139965/
>> I think because it looked so beautiful, I wondered if it was his main
>> bike, or one of many.
>> 
>> That made me wonder who of us with QBs consider it our primary bike,
>> and who uses it for a specialized purpose, or as a fun secondary
>> bike.
>> 
>> My Quickbeam is my main bike. I ride it the most, I lavish the most
>> attention on it, and it's the one I consider "my bike!" I have two
>> other bikes: a geared mtb, and another 2-speed road bike.
>> My Quickbeam this morning: 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/5149030862/
>> 
>> So, Quickbeam owners, is your QB your "main bike?"
>> 
>>  Philip
>> 
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[RBW] Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[Robert F. Harrison]

My QB has grown into my primary bike in the year that I've owned it.
For the first few months i was much warier of using everywhere and
would ride my beater if I was going to have to park it outside for
long. After a while I just ended up preferring the ride so much that I
ride it pretty much exclusively these days. I still have beater (a
single sped converted from an old 90's ATB), a Giant Sedona I'm going
to donate to the local university bike co-op, a Bike Friday I take in
trips (it has been to Walnut Creek from Honolulu), and an old Raleigh
road bike in the Big Island.

My only complaint has been using my QB on camping trips. I did a 3
night 250 total miles tirip with no trouble but I think I might have
like a bike with deraillers for that.

Still its primary purpose is a city commuter in a city with w hills so
it's darn near perfect.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4339440167


Aloha, Bob



On Friday, November 5, 2010, Philip Williamson
 wrote:
> I was looking at A D's fantastic SimpleOne: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/livepake/5133139965/
> I think because it looked so beautiful, I wondered if it was his main
> bike, or one of many.
>
> That made me wonder who of us with QBs consider it our primary bike,
> and who uses it for a specialized purpose, or as a fun secondary
> bike.
>
> My Quickbeam is my main bike. I ride it the most, I lavish the most
> attention on it, and it's the one I consider "my bike!" I have two
> other bikes: a geared mtb, and another 2-speed road bike.
> My Quickbeam this morning: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/5149030862/
>
> So, Quickbeam owners, is your QB your "main bike?"
>
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamson
> www.biketinker.com
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Re: [RBW] Riding backwards.

[Horace]

awesome!

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, manueljohnacosta <
manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/user/RivBikeWorks#p/a/u/1/Wml2dlvaZzM
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[RBW] Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[Robert F. Harrison]

My QB has grown into my primary bike in the year that I've owned it.
For the first few months i was much warier of using everywhere and
would ride my beater if I was going to have to park it outside for
long. After a while I just ended up preferring the ride so much that I
ride it pretty much exclusively these days. I still have beater (a
single sped converted from an old 90's ATB), a Giant Sedona I'm going
to donate to the local university bike co-op, a Bike Friday I take in
trips (it has been to Walnut Creek from Honolulu), and an old Raleigh
road bike in the Big Island.

My only complaint has been using my QB on camping trips. I did a 3
night 250 total miles tirip with no trouble but I think I might have
like a bike with deraillers for that.

Still its primary purpose is a city commuter in a city with w hills so
it's darn near perfect.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4339440167


Aloha, Bob



On Friday, November 5, 2010, Philip Williamson
 wrote:
> I was looking at A D's fantastic SimpleOne: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/livepake/5133139965/
> I think because it looked so beautiful, I wondered if it was his main
> bike, or one of many.
>
> That made me wonder who of us with QBs consider it our primary bike,
> and who uses it for a specialized purpose, or as a fun secondary
> bike.
>
> My Quickbeam is my main bike. I ride it the most, I lavish the most
> attention on it, and it's the one I consider "my bike!" I have two
> other bikes: a geared mtb, and another 2-speed road bike.
> My Quickbeam this morning: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/5149030862/
>
> So, Quickbeam owners, is your QB your "main bike?"
>
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamson
> www.biketinker.com
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[RBW] Riding backwards.

[manueljohnacosta]

http://www.youtube.com/user/RivBikeWorks#p/a/u/1/Wml2dlvaZzM

>From the great folks at rivendell

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Re: [RBW] Re: Betty

[Rene Sterental]

Beautiful Betty... almost identical to mine, and mine is for me to ride
around town and for my daughters to borrow every now and then... :-) Hope
your wife enjoys it a lot, will she let you borrow it? My wife doesn't ride.

René

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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

[Forrest]

David, you are in for a real treat. The A. Homer Hilsen is an awesome
choice. If you have the dough, definitely go for the Phil Wood hubs.
-- Forrest

On Nov 8, 4:16 pm, dhk42  wrote:
> First post!
>
> I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my
> potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed
> an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen.
>
> Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have
> enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course.
> Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and
> the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on
> the topic. :-)
>
> But hey! It is not too late to talk about components.
>
> So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7" 250lb 45
> year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that
> fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a
> long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails,
> and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never
> get really serious about hard core off roading.  I have no plans to do
> lots of touring.
>
> First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?
>
> David

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Re: [RBW] What's your winter project?

[Gino Zahnd]

I ride all winter.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:10 AM, William  wrote:
> As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?
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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

[Patrick in VT]

On Nov 8, 5:16 pm, dhk42  wrote:
>
> First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?

phil wood, chris king, white industries ... everyone has his/her
favorite.  they're all good.  but so are shimano XTs.  whatever you
choose, just make sure their laced up and built into good strong
wheels.  you'll never notice the hubs' performance, but you will
notice broken spokes and/or wobbly wheels.

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[EricP]

My Rivendell project for the winter - change my Sam Hillborne over to
V-brakes.  Should make it easier to adjust handlebar height.  Maybe,
possibly add a pair of interruptor levers too.  Then fret and worry
for a while about what type of handlebar tape to install.  Then pull
it off in frustration and just go back to black cork.

Might also swap out the crankset.  Might have just kilt my third BB in
less than two years of the bike.  Could replace.  Or just put on the
external BB Deore crank I have.  (Which has been on this bike before
and does the job.)

Yeah, and ride, too.  But not my Rivendell outside.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Nov 8, 5:40 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
wrote:
> What to do in the winter?
>
> RIDE!
>
> Serious, for me summers are HOT and SMOGGY.  Yuck.  Winters are just
> awesome, just wish the days were longer!
>

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Ian Dickson]

My winter project is dialing the Hunqapillar in as a winter bike.  The
29x2.1 Nokian's have been great.  This weekend I swapped out the drops
for moustache bars to give me some leverage when I'm fighting the
tussocks.  So far, so good.  The next challenge will come when it gets
really cold and certain bearings stiffen up.  I figure I'll get
everything ideal by springtime, when I'll start dialing in the
Hunqapillar as a dirt road touring machine.  And next winter I'll buy
an actual snow bike, so everything I will have learned with the
Hunqapillar will go straight out the window.

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[RBW] Packing it in!

[Marty]

Great new vid showing the Riv-tastic packing method for complete bikes
on the site. Of course, I always shellack my boxes, and use hemp twine
rather than packing tape, but that's just me.

http://tinyurl.com/249sqd3

Marty

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Re: [RBW] AHH on order

[Bruce]

David:

I have White Industries M15s on my Saluki (the same bike as your Hilsen, in an 
earlier name) and they are just as nice as the Phils on my Rambouillet. Not 
quite the same cachet as Phils, but they work as well, so far. Phils may last 
longer, I dunno. The front hubs of both brands are similar in price, but the 
rears are a fair bit apart.

Hope you enjoy many happy miles.

Bruce





From: dhk42 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 4:16:27 PM
Subject: [RBW] AHH on order


First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?

David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Betty

[James Warren]

All right, in a single day, I have called Betty Foy "in some ways...the nicest 
bike Rivendell sells" and have said that the AHH is perhaps the best bike ever 
made. I'm calling myself out and saying that I need to get out and ride! See ya.

(And for the record, I'm sticking with my story about the AHH. I've never 
ridden a Betty.)


-Original Message-
>From: Montclair BobbyB 
>Sent: Nov 8, 2010 3:30 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Betty
>
>Indeed... I sure am smitten by her beauty... Ah, but let's not forget
>Betty's cousin, the International Man of Mixte himself, Yves Gomez...
>THAT is one fine-looking bike; I only wish we'd see more of these..
>and someone remind me againwhy are they priced higher than the
>Betty?... (sorry if this question has been answered)
>
>I can't help but see a Gomez in my future...
>
>On Nov 8, 4:29 pm, James Warren  wrote:
>> I stared at that bike's pictures for quite a while. Thanks for linking it.
>>
>> In some ways, I think the Betty Foy is the nicest bike that Rivendell sells.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> >From: Rick 
>> >Sent: Nov 8, 2010 12:41 PM
>> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>> >Subject: [RBW] Betty
>>
>> >My wife's newest latest:
>>
>> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/sets/72157625215935569/
>>
>> >I kind of foisted it upon her, and am quite smitten.  On a less happy
>> >note, anybody dialed in the touch-up for Ms. Foy?
>>
>> >Rick.
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Re: [RBW] AHH on order

[James Warren]

David, you are going to love your bike. For what you described, the AHH is 
perfect. I take mine off-road a bit at times, and its behavior on the road is 
so smooth and good. It is so excellent that you are going to have a bike that 
fits you, and this model nonetheless.

I highly recommend the Jack Browns as a way to optimize the bike, but I know 
others work well on it too.

I often find myself thinking that the AHH is perhaps the best bike ever made. I 
get to ride mine home from work today. Time to get that started.

-Jim W.


-Original Message-
>From: dhk42 
>Sent: Nov 8, 2010 2:16 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] AHH on order
>
>First post!
>
>I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my
>potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed
>an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen.
>
>Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have
>enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course.
>Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and
>the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on
>the topic. :-)
>
>But hey! It is not too late to talk about components.
>
>So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7" 250lb 45
>year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that
>fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a
>long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails,
>and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never
>get really serious about hard core off roading.  I have no plans to do
>lots of touring.
>
>First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?
>
>David
>
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

What to do in the winter?

RIDE!

Serious, for me summers are HOT and SMOGGY.  Yuck.  Winters are just
awesome, just wish the days were longer!


On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
> As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[erik jensen]

sorting out all the random parts left over from the year, setting up a
proper workspace in my new home now that rain endangers working outside all
the time.

trying not to spend time on projects, just want to ride regularly this rainy
season round.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Montclair BobbyB
wrote:

> Aside from "renaissancing" my 60s Gazelle Dutch twins, Huub and Mieke
> (both of which are Sport Luxe single-speed coaster models, but will
> get drum dynamo and 3 speed rear hubs), I plan to tweak/beautify the
> Noodle bar setup on my Bomba, starting with a harlequin tape pattern,
> funky whipping and a few coats of shellac.  I am debating what type of
> cushion (if any) I can get away with near the hoods... any ideas?
>
> Also I will be tweaking my rack and bag setup, including permanently
> "installing" the bag-stiffeners in my VO Campagne handlebar bag, and
> making it easier to put on/ take off the rack and/or attach inside my
> Wald basket (which BTW I will first transform into a custom "Woody"
> basket)...
>
> Also building up a 1983 StumpJumper into a fine rider/commuter with
> vintage parts.
> Finally, adding internal-geared and dyno drum hubbed-wheels to a 1985
> Rockhopper
>
> (Jeez!!!  At this point it had better be a LONG winter... I mus'be
> talkin boo... I'll never get through all of these projects )
>
> BB
>
> On Nov 8, 5:51 pm, William  wrote:
> > I only shellack cloth bar tape.  I accidentally splatter frames with
> > shellac, but that's all.
> >
> > Another thing I might try is to Hunqa-fy my Hillborne.  When the
> > Marathon Duremes are back in, I'm planning on trying out a pair and
> > taking the Hillborne-a-pillar into the dirt.
> >
> > On Nov 8, 12:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Bikes or bars (tape)? Curious about shellacking frames -- if that is
> > > what you did.
> >
> > > This weekend's project: sturdy-fied a set of Axiom Dutch panniers.
> > > These are the ideal shopping panniers: big, relatively inexpensive,
> > > boxy, stiffened so that you can drop a full paper grocery sack into
> > > each side, easily drape over rack, cut away on leading side for foot
> > > clearance. But the older ones, as mine, have fiddly straps under the
> > > linking nylon webbing to attach them to the rack, AND they sag
> > > (sometimes into the rear spokes) if you put 20 lb in one. I bought a
> > > 6' length of 1/2" metal strip, cut in half, bent each half to fit
> > > inside the interior of the panniers' mouth, and riveted the bracings
> > > in place. Then I constructed a riveted, on-its-side (or horizontal)
> > > capital "I" on the center handle (central stiffener attached at ends
> > > to perpendicular braces) so that I can just drape the pair over the
> > > rack and secure one of the braces to a rack cross strut with a toe
> > > strap. Now, stiff enough and, very easy on and off.
> >
> > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, William  wrote:
> > > > In the rain on Sunday I did give a couple bikes an extra coat of
> clear
> > > > shellac.  My clear Bullseye is almost out, so I'm going to use it up
> > > > and ditch the can.
> >
> > > > On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> > > >> My project is converting a ~1980 Takara "Overland" touring bike I
> > > >> acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear.  Been
> thinking
> > > >> about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the
> > > >> funds.  Excited to see how it comes out.
> >
> > > >> On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
> >
> > > >> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > > >> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of
> them
> > > >> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > > >> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So
> I'm
> > > >> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > > >> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt
> riding
> > > >> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > > >> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus
> touring
> > > >> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
> >
> > > >> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > > >> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > > >> > project?  Take on a restoration?
> >
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[RBW] Re: Betty

[Montclair BobbyB]

Indeed... I sure am smitten by her beauty... Ah, but let's not forget
Betty's cousin, the International Man of Mixte himself, Yves Gomez...
THAT is one fine-looking bike; I only wish we'd see more of these..
and someone remind me againwhy are they priced higher than the
Betty?... (sorry if this question has been answered)

I can't help but see a Gomez in my future...

On Nov 8, 4:29 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> I stared at that bike's pictures for quite a while. Thanks for linking it.
>
> In some ways, I think the Betty Foy is the nicest bike that Rivendell sells.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: Rick 
> >Sent: Nov 8, 2010 12:41 PM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Betty
>
> >My wife's newest latest:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/sets/72157625215935569/
>
> >I kind of foisted it upon her, and am quite smitten.  On a less happy
> >note, anybody dialed in the touch-up for Ms. Foy?
>
> >Rick.
>
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Montclair BobbyB]

Aside from "renaissancing" my 60s Gazelle Dutch twins, Huub and Mieke
(both of which are Sport Luxe single-speed coaster models, but will
get drum dynamo and 3 speed rear hubs), I plan to tweak/beautify the
Noodle bar setup on my Bomba, starting with a harlequin tape pattern,
funky whipping and a few coats of shellac.  I am debating what type of
cushion (if any) I can get away with near the hoods... any ideas?

Also I will be tweaking my rack and bag setup, including permanently
"installing" the bag-stiffeners in my VO Campagne handlebar bag, and
making it easier to put on/ take off the rack and/or attach inside my
Wald basket (which BTW I will first transform into a custom "Woody"
basket)...

Also building up a 1983 StumpJumper into a fine rider/commuter with
vintage parts.
Finally, adding internal-geared and dyno drum hubbed-wheels to a 1985
Rockhopper

(Jeez!!!  At this point it had better be a LONG winter... I mus'be
talkin boo... I'll never get through all of these projects )

BB

On Nov 8, 5:51 pm, William  wrote:
> I only shellack cloth bar tape.  I accidentally splatter frames with
> shellac, but that's all.
>
> Another thing I might try is to Hunqa-fy my Hillborne.  When the
> Marathon Duremes are back in, I'm planning on trying out a pair and
> taking the Hillborne-a-pillar into the dirt.
>
> On Nov 8, 12:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bikes or bars (tape)? Curious about shellacking frames -- if that is
> > what you did.
>
> > This weekend's project: sturdy-fied a set of Axiom Dutch panniers.
> > These are the ideal shopping panniers: big, relatively inexpensive,
> > boxy, stiffened so that you can drop a full paper grocery sack into
> > each side, easily drape over rack, cut away on leading side for foot
> > clearance. But the older ones, as mine, have fiddly straps under the
> > linking nylon webbing to attach them to the rack, AND they sag
> > (sometimes into the rear spokes) if you put 20 lb in one. I bought a
> > 6' length of 1/2" metal strip, cut in half, bent each half to fit
> > inside the interior of the panniers' mouth, and riveted the bracings
> > in place. Then I constructed a riveted, on-its-side (or horizontal)
> > capital "I" on the center handle (central stiffener attached at ends
> > to perpendicular braces) so that I can just drape the pair over the
> > rack and secure one of the braces to a rack cross strut with a toe
> > strap. Now, stiff enough and, very easy on and off.
>
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, William  wrote:
> > > In the rain on Sunday I did give a couple bikes an extra coat of clear
> > > shellac.  My clear Bullseye is almost out, so I'm going to use it up
> > > and ditch the can.
>
> > > On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> > >> My project is converting a ~1980 Takara "Overland" touring bike I
> > >> acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear.  Been thinking
> > >> about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the
> > >> funds.  Excited to see how it comes out.
>
> > >> On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
>
> > >> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > >> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > >> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > >> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > >> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > >> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > >> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > >> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > >> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > >> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > >> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > >> > project?  Take on a restoration?
>
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Beth H]

Now that I've admitted that the All-Rounder is actually much closer to
my Dream Bike, I have a 99 LongLow that I need to figure out what to
do with. I will spend some time this winter tearing it down and trying
to rebuild it as a less-encoumbered roadie-style thing, with drops and
a compact double crankset, and see how I like that. Meanwhile, the All-
Rounder (same era) has turned out to be the Atlantis I thought I
always wanted, or perhaps even better than that.

Sweetie won't let me sell the LongLow -- there's too much history with
me and that frameset -- so I am playing with it to see what it tells
me. I expect it to be a long, mellow enjoyable putter.

Beth

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[Mojo]

Patrick,

I can't speak to your questions. But as another data point, I have to
say I don't like my Q ride as much as the 2001/Curt road custom, or
the 2009/Waterford Legolas. The Q doesn't feel as lively as those
frames *to me.* Not that the single speed format isn't fun and not
that I don't enjoy my Q rides.  I haven't done my homework to compare
tubing, but the Q from pure frame weight alone must have thicker
walled tubes. I am suggesting you may not like the SimpleOne ride
since you are spoiled by your customs. But of course YMMV


On Nov 8, 1:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Dan Abelson  wrote:
>
> > While I have 2 nice bikes in addition to my Quickbeam (a AHH and a
> > Crosscheck), the Quickbeam is my favorite and my go to bike.  There is
> > something magical (to me at least) about the ride.    I like it so
> > much that I was seriously contemplating whether I should get a Simple
> > One frame when it comes out just to keep as a backup in case something
> > ever happens to my Quickbeam (I don't think that is in the cards -- I
> > don't think my SO would buy that logic).
>
> I've got two Riv custom fixies, but I'd love a Riv-made fixie to
> replace the (admittedly rather nice, but still not Riv) '73 Grand
> Record I use as a grocery fixie. So, tell me: what is the difference
> between Simple One and QB, and when is the SO due? And, will it be
> available as a frameset?

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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

[Montclair BobbyB]

Wow, a 71 ???  Could this be the first TRIPLE TT Hilsen the world has
ever seen  (Oh, Behave!)
Seriously, awesome choice.  I can vouch for Phil Wood hubs based on
several experiences...

First, I actually had the pawls jam on my Phil 9-speed cassette disc
hub, and even though I thought maybe I had neglected it somehow, Phil
replaced it free based on their assessment that a Phil hub should
never fail like it apparently had.

Second, I recently ordered a 7-speed freewheel hub in the wrong size
(130mm spacing), and realized it a day after the order was placed...
The folks at Phil Wood had ALREADY shipped it (that's how good they
are), and yet were kind enough (since I was in a hurry to build my
wheels) to also ship the 135mm one, without asking for a credit card
or to pay for shipping...  I sent shipping $ back in the return box.

Without hesitation I will buy Phil Wood hubs in the future... In fact
I am sure I will be a Phil Wood customer for life.

BB

On Nov 8, 5:40 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
wrote:
> Yes, one is not enough!  I think going with an AHH is the perfect all-
> round choice.  Hope you love it!
>
> An yeah, Phil wheels will set you back some extra $$$, but a Rich
> build Phil hubset would be a great investment to go with your new
> bike!
>
> On Nov 8, 2:32 pm, William  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Congrats on your order.  Save up for a 68cm diagonal Bombadil as
> > well!  One Riv is not enough.
>
> > Phil hubs are definitely worth it.  They are US made, by one of the
> > most respected names in cycling history.  If you can afford them, your
> > Hilsen will deserve them.
>
> > On Nov 8, 2:16 pm, dhk42  wrote:
>
> > > First post!
>
> > > I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my
> > > potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed
> > > an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen.
>
> > > Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have
> > > enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course.
> > > Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and
> > > the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on
> > > the topic. :-)
>
> > > But hey! It is not too late to talk about components.
>
> > > So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7" 250lb 45
> > > year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that
> > > fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a
> > > long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails,
> > > and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never
> > > get really serious about hard core off roading.  I have no plans to do
> > > lots of touring.
>
> > > First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?
>
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[William]

I only shellack cloth bar tape.  I accidentally splatter frames with
shellac, but that's all.

Another thing I might try is to Hunqa-fy my Hillborne.  When the
Marathon Duremes are back in, I'm planning on trying out a pair and
taking the Hillborne-a-pillar into the dirt.

On Nov 8, 12:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Bikes or bars (tape)? Curious about shellacking frames -- if that is
> what you did.
>
> This weekend's project: sturdy-fied a set of Axiom Dutch panniers.
> These are the ideal shopping panniers: big, relatively inexpensive,
> boxy, stiffened so that you can drop a full paper grocery sack into
> each side, easily drape over rack, cut away on leading side for foot
> clearance. But the older ones, as mine, have fiddly straps under the
> linking nylon webbing to attach them to the rack, AND they sag
> (sometimes into the rear spokes) if you put 20 lb in one. I bought a
> 6' length of 1/2" metal strip, cut in half, bent each half to fit
> inside the interior of the panniers' mouth, and riveted the bracings
> in place. Then I constructed a riveted, on-its-side (or horizontal)
> capital "I" on the center handle (central stiffener attached at ends
> to perpendicular braces) so that I can just drape the pair over the
> rack and secure one of the braces to a rack cross strut with a toe
> strap. Now, stiff enough and, very easy on and off.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, William  wrote:
> > In the rain on Sunday I did give a couple bikes an extra coat of clear
> > shellac.  My clear Bullseye is almost out, so I'm going to use it up
> > and ditch the can.
>
> > On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> >> My project is converting a ~1980 Takara "Overland" touring bike I
> >> acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear.  Been thinking
> >> about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the
> >> funds.  Excited to see how it comes out.
>
> >> On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
>
> >> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> >> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> >> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> >> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> >> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> >> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> >> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> >> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> >> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> >> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> >> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> >> > project?  Take on a restoration?
>
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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Yes, one is not enough!  I think going with an AHH is the perfect all-
round choice.  Hope you love it!

An yeah, Phil wheels will set you back some extra $$$, but a Rich
build Phil hubset would be a great investment to go with your new
bike!

On Nov 8, 2:32 pm, William  wrote:
> Congrats on your order.  Save up for a 68cm diagonal Bombadil as
> well!  One Riv is not enough.
>
> Phil hubs are definitely worth it.  They are US made, by one of the
> most respected names in cycling history.  If you can afford them, your
> Hilsen will deserve them.
>
> On Nov 8, 2:16 pm, dhk42  wrote:
>
> > First post!
>
> > I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my
> > potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed
> > an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen.
>
> > Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have
> > enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course.
> > Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and
> > the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on
> > the topic. :-)
>
> > But hey! It is not too late to talk about components.
>
> > So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7" 250lb 45
> > year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that
> > fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a
> > long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails,
> > and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never
> > get really serious about hard core off roading.  I have no plans to do
> > lots of touring.
>
> > First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?
>
> > David

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[RBW] Re: AHH on order

[William]

Congrats on your order.  Save up for a 68cm diagonal Bombadil as
well!  One Riv is not enough.

Phil hubs are definitely worth it.  They are US made, by one of the
most respected names in cycling history.  If you can afford them, your
Hilsen will deserve them.

On Nov 8, 2:16 pm, dhk42  wrote:
> First post!
>
> I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my
> potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed
> an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen.
>
> Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have
> enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course.
> Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and
> the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on
> the topic. :-)
>
> But hey! It is not too late to talk about components.
>
> So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7" 250lb 45
> year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that
> fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a
> long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails,
> and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never
> get really serious about hard core off roading.  I have no plans to do
> lots of touring.
>
> First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?
>
> David

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[RBW] AHH on order

[dhk42]

First post!

I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my
potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed
an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen.

Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have
enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course.
Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and
the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on
the topic. :-)

But hey! It is not too late to talk about components.

So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7" 250lb 45
year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that
fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a
long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails,
and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never
get really serious about hard core off roading.  I have no plans to do
lots of touring.

First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it?

David

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[MichaelH]

I am retiring on Dec. 3rd, and people keep asking me, "What are you
going to DO?"  I tell them, "Nothing, and I won't even start before
10:30."

Actually, I'm in a quandary about my winter project.  I have a 1984
Trek 620 Touring bike and I love the way it rides, but it maxis out at
32mm tires, with fenders, and I'd like bigger on a touring bike.  I
have put a lot of nice parts on the frame, but stuff I don't use
anymore, like 9 speed ultegra brifters and I could try to sell it in
ebay.  Or I could convert it to 650b, which involves having the canti
studs removed, building new wheels and buying new brakes.  Hard to
justify but I hate parting with the frame.  Or, I suppose i could just
live with it!  What a thought.

The good news is on the wood is stacked!

Michael,
in rainy snow in Westford, VT

On Nov 8, 4:44 pm, Shaun Meehan  wrote:
> I'm having my Atlantis repainted this winter. The original paint is
> still in pretty good shape for the most part; other than minor
> scratches all over it and a fairly significant ding/dent/gouge in the
> top tube. But I've never been a huge fan of the stock 'lantis color
> (although it has grown on me some). I'm having the repaint done by
> Chris Kvale (a local frame builder) and while I'm at it, I'm going to
> have him add mid-fork and mid-seat-stay rack braze-ons. And in a
> distinctly non-Rivish move, I'm seriously thinking about having him
> replace the threaded steerer with a threadless one. I just like the
> threadless set-up a whole lot better and I found a TIG welded stem tby
> Chris Kelly that would work perfectly. In fact, I could have it
> painted to match.
>
> Shaun Meehan

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Shaun Meehan]

I'm having my Atlantis repainted this winter. The original paint is
still in pretty good shape for the most part; other than minor
scratches all over it and a fairly significant ding/dent/gouge in the
top tube. But I've never been a huge fan of the stock 'lantis color
(although it has grown on me some). I'm having the repaint done by
Chris Kvale (a local frame builder) and while I'm at it, I'm going to
have him add mid-fork and mid-seat-stay rack braze-ons. And in a
distinctly non-Rivish move, I'm seriously thinking about having him
replace the threaded steerer with a threadless one. I just like the
threadless set-up a whole lot better and I found a TIG welded stem tby
Chris Kelly that would work perfectly. In fact, I could have it
painted to match.

Shaun Meehan

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[stevep33]

Just cleaned out the parts bin, and now overdue maintenance is the
next order of business...de-gunk, replace worn parts, find that creaky
noise, spray some frame saver, etc.

My reward is going to be building up a new 650b all-rounder/commuter
Banjo frame expected late this year.  I'm hoping to get my hands on an
Alfine 11 speed hub whenever comes out.

On Nov 8, 3:38 pm, Mojo  wrote:
> With snow in the forecast this week for Colorado, I have a pile (oh I
> am ashamed to say 15 pair) of skis with storage wax that need to be
> scraped brushed and rewaxed for cold snow. Then scraped and brushed
> again.
>
> And the garden still needs to be overturned.
>
> But those are Autumn projects.
>
> Lots of skiing is my winter project.
> Taht and I have a Tom Matchak fork coming sometime soon for my Surly
> LHT that will need to be installed.
>
> On Nov 8, 11:10 am, William  wrote:
>
> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > project?  Take on a restoration?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Betty

[James Warren]

I stared at that bike's pictures for quite a while. Thanks for linking it.

In some ways, I think the Betty Foy is the nicest bike that Rivendell sells.


-Original Message-
>From: Rick 
>Sent: Nov 8, 2010 12:41 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Betty
>
>My wife's newest latest:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/sets/72157625215935569/
>
>I kind of foisted it upon her, and am quite smitten.  On a less happy
>note, anybody dialed in the touch-up for Ms. Foy?
>
>Rick.
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[RBW] Betty

[Rick]

My wife's newest latest:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/sets/72157625215935569/

I kind of foisted it upon her, and am quite smitten.  On a less happy
note, anybody dialed in the touch-up for Ms. Foy?

Rick.

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Mojo]

With snow in the forecast this week for Colorado, I have a pile (oh I
am ashamed to say 15 pair) of skis with storage wax that need to be
scraped brushed and rewaxed for cold snow. Then scraped and brushed
again.

And the garden still needs to be overturned.

But those are Autumn projects.

Lots of skiing is my winter project.
Taht and I have a Tom Matchak fork coming sometime soon for my Surly
LHT that will need to be installed.

On Nov 8, 11:10 am, William  wrote:
> As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Question - main bike, or backup bike?

[PATRICK MOORE]

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Dan Abelson  wrote:

>
>
> While I have 2 nice bikes in addition to my Quickbeam (a AHH and a
> Crosscheck), the Quickbeam is my favorite and my go to bike.  There is
> something magical (to me at least) about the ride.    I like it so
> much that I was seriously contemplating whether I should get a Simple
> One frame when it comes out just to keep as a backup in case something
> ever happens to my Quickbeam (I don't think that is in the cards -- I
> don't think my SO would buy that logic).
>

I've got two Riv custom fixies, but I'd love a Riv-made fixie to
replace the (admittedly rather nice, but still not Riv) '73 Grand
Record I use as a grocery fixie. So, tell me: what is the difference
between Simple One and QB, and when is the SO due? And, will it be
available as a frameset?

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Bikes or bars (tape)? Curious about shellacking frames -- if that is
what you did.

This weekend's project: sturdy-fied a set of Axiom Dutch panniers.
These are the ideal shopping panniers: big, relatively inexpensive,
boxy, stiffened so that you can drop a full paper grocery sack into
each side, easily drape over rack, cut away on leading side for foot
clearance. But the older ones, as mine, have fiddly straps under the
linking nylon webbing to attach them to the rack, AND they sag
(sometimes into the rear spokes) if you put 20 lb in one. I bought a
6' length of 1/2" metal strip, cut in half, bent each half to fit
inside the interior of the panniers' mouth, and riveted the bracings
in place. Then I constructed a riveted, on-its-side (or horizontal)
capital "I" on the center handle (central stiffener attached at ends
to perpendicular braces) so that I can just drape the pair over the
rack and secure one of the braces to a rack cross strut with a toe
strap. Now, stiff enough and, very easy on and off.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, William  wrote:
> In the rain on Sunday I did give a couple bikes an extra coat of clear
> shellac.  My clear Bullseye is almost out, so I'm going to use it up
> and ditch the can.
>
> On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Jeremy Till  wrote:
>> My project is converting a ~1980 Takara "Overland" touring bike I
>> acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear.  Been thinking
>> about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the
>> funds.  Excited to see how it comes out.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
>>
>> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
>> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
>> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
>> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
>> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
>> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
>> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
>> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
>> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>>
>> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
>> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
>> > project?  Take on a restoration?
>>
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I wish they'd re-issue their original, cheap saddlebag made from the
original burrito waxed cotton cloth. I recently got one from a fellow
RBW-er or iBobber. Sorry, the best photo I have is here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5522534402352991554

Sturdy, just the right size, inexpensive, no chi-chi. Needless to say,
it works very well as a small bar bag.

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Eric  wrote:
> I've watched with great anticipation some great older Riv bags on
> eBay.
>
> Recently, this handlebar bag fetched more than $200
>
> Found here: 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320611490808&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
>
> Another Baggins style saddle bag fetched close to $180 on eBay. So
> obviously there is a demand for well designed bags, as the way Acorn
> bags are in stock for what seems like seconds. And I'm a more recent
> Riv aficionado so I missed out on buying 'em.
>
> Anyways, why doesn't Riv reissue these bags?
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Re: [RBW] What's your winter project?

[Curtis Schmitt]

I'm having Spectrum Cycles strip the white factory paint off of my
Seven Alaris to reveal the titanium hiding underneath, going with a
raw brushed finish. Then rebuild with all carbon/black parts (no
silver whatsoever) plus matching set of saddle and bar tape. Could use
some recommendations on which way to go here. I could go black of
course, but was thinking either green, honey or white Brooks might be
a nice contrast.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> At the moment, I'm waiting for a old Campagnolo Rally derailleur, which will 
> be paired with a new Grand Cru double crank (48/34 rings) from Velo Orange to 
> give me a lower gear range on my 1980s-era Benotto. That's the only project 
> on the horizon, other than trying to keep the cobwebs from growing on my 
> other bikes by getting them on the road on a regular basis.
>
> --Eric N
>
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:10 AM, William  wrote:
>
>> As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
>> projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
>> are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
>> overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
>> not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
>> configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
>> now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
>> (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
>> opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>>
>> What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
>> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
>> project?  Take on a restoration?
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Re: [RBW] What's your winter project?

[Eric Norris]

At the moment, I'm waiting for a old Campagnolo Rally derailleur, which will be 
paired with a new Grand Cru double crank (48/34 rings) from Velo Orange to give 
me a lower gear range on my 1980s-era Benotto. That's the only project on the 
horizon, other than trying to keep the cobwebs from growing on my other bikes 
by getting them on the road on a regular basis.

--Eric N

On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:10 AM, William  wrote:

> As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
> 
> What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Ron MH]

I'll be putting a new crank (Sugino RD-2), chainrings, chain and fixed
cog on the Quickbeam. It might also get a new Tubus fly rack (if Santa
is listening) with an attached rear battery light.

On Nov 8, 11:00 am, William  wrote:
> In the rain on Sunday I did give a couple bikes an extra coat of clear
> shellac.  My clear Bullseye is almost out, so I'm going to use it up
> and ditch the can.
>
> On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Jeremy Till  wrote:
>
>
>
> > My project is converting a ~1980 Takara "Overland" touring bike I
> > acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear.  Been thinking
> > about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the
> > funds.  Excited to see how it comes out.
>
> > On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
>
> > > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > > project?  Take on a restoration?

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[RBW] FS: duluth bannana bag and other

[mr.trout]

1 well used duluth bannana bag, tan. only has one strap that attaches
to the seat loops. the strap i have is a little longer and goes
through both loops just fine and actually makes it a little more snug.
$45 shipped

2 swiss army bread bags. like these 
http://kaufmann-mercantile.com/swiss-army-bread-bag/.
great shape. $45 shipped

1 pletscher double kickstand. barely used. $20 shipped, i think that's
fair. i have no idea how much it originall cost

would trade for 109.5 octalink BB

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[William]

In the rain on Sunday I did give a couple bikes an extra coat of clear
shellac.  My clear Bullseye is almost out, so I'm going to use it up
and ditch the can.

On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> My project is converting a ~1980 Takara "Overland" touring bike I
> acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear.  Been thinking
> about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the
> funds.  Excited to see how it comes out.
>
> On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
>
> > As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> > projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> > are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> > overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> > not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> > configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> > now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> > (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> > opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> > What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> > through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> > project?  Take on a restoration?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Jeremy Till]

My project is converting a ~1980 Takara "Overland" touring bike I
acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear.  Been thinking
about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the
funds.  Excited to see how it comes out.

On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William  wrote:
> As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?

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Re: [RBW] What's your winter project?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Me: #1: finally wire up the rack-mount dyno-tail light that has been
sitting on my workbench for 8 months. #2: perhaps undertake the huge
project of removing a saddle for recovering and installing another one
while I wait -- I'd rather re-tape bars or fix multiple flats than
have to re-adjust saddles. #3: perhaps re-route and re-secure the
dynowires on three bikes, replacing zip ties with little glued-on
loops cut from plastic swamp cooler/drip irrigation system tubing. (It
would be interesting to have someone braze bits of swamp cooler copper
tubing in places needed to secure and guide the wires -- maybe a later
project for repainting time?)

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:10 AM, William  wrote:
> As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
> projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
> are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
> overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
> not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
> configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
> now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
> (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
> opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.
>
> What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?
>
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[RBW] What's your winter project?

[William]

As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter
projects.  A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them
are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share.  In 2010 I pretty much
overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed.  So I'm
not due for any complete overhauls.  I am building a second
configuration for my Bombadil.  It's set up for dedicated dirt riding
now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter
(drop bars, fenders, racks, bags).  So next time a week-plus touring
opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it.

What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
project?  Take on a restoration?

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[RBW] Re: Rivy takes to the trails

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

That would be great!  We have somewhat successfully been able to plan
rides around out of towner's schedules.
What town are you going to be staying in?

8th/9th might be far enough out from the holidays that it would work
out.

On Nov 8, 9:47 am, erik jensen  wrote:
> David,
>
> I'm thinking about riding down to your neck of the woods in the first week
> or so of January. My bias opinion is that a socal riv ride would be fabulous
> on January 8th or 9th.
>
> Just pondering...
>
> All the best,
>
> erik
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:08 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Thanks for taking a peak!
>
> > These fire roads and singletrack are what I had the bike specifically built
> > for 10 years ago. I used to live up there, and rode them at least once a
> > week.  My MTB  (B'stone MB-2) was too tough, my road bike (Specialized
> > Allez) wasn't tough enough.  Enter Rivendell and the rest is history!
>
> > This is all in Inland Southern California.  Contrary to the several million
> > folks in denial, it's really a desert.
> > No rain means no erosion and no trees!  The chaparral you see in this 
> > picis pretty much 
> > what you get.
>
> > The SoCal Rivendell crowd has been up there 
> > before,
> > maybe again this Spring?
>
> > BTW folks, don't forget this month's edition, coming soon:
> >http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc...
>
> > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:38 PM, David T.  wrote:
>
> >> Great pictures. Those trails look really nice, there is hardly any
> >> erosion on them. Just out of curiosity, why are there no trees on
> >> those hills? Is that the natural state or has it previously been
> >> logged?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivy takes to the trails

[erik jensen]

David,

I'm thinking about riding down to your neck of the woods in the first week
or so of January. My bias opinion is that a socal riv ride would be fabulous
on January 8th or 9th.

Just pondering...

All the best,

erik

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:08 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> Thanks for taking a peak!
>
> These fire roads and singletrack are what I had the bike specifically built
> for 10 years ago. I used to live up there, and rode them at least once a
> week.  My MTB  (B'stone MB-2) was too tough, my road bike (Specialized
> Allez) wasn't tough enough.  Enter Rivendell and the rest is history!
>
> This is all in Inland Southern California.  Contrary to the several million
> folks in denial, it's really a desert.
> No rain means no erosion and no trees!  The chaparral you see in this 
> picis pretty much what 
> you get.
>
> The SoCal Rivendell crowd has been up there 
> before,
> maybe again this Spring?
>
> BTW folks, don't forget this month's edition, coming soon:
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157624750204662/
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:38 PM, David T.  wrote:
>
>> Great pictures. Those trails look really nice, there is hardly any
>> erosion on them. Just out of curiosity, why are there no trees on
>> those hills? Is that the natural state or has it previously been
>> logged?
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: wanted Rear derailer

[ejg]

Thanks for the responses folks
I think I'm going to try a Shimano XT.
My friend uses one and is pretty happy with it


On Nov 8, 7:09 am, Garth  wrote:
> I bought a couple of Deore LX M581 RD's recently, all silver ones.
> These models are from a couple of years 
> ago.http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/RD309A01-Shimano+Lx+M581+Rear+...
>
> The problem with the good looking vintage RD's is the lack of
> capacity. I have one of these that I thought would be great for my
> Bombadil, but I exceeded it's 
> capacity.http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=3F73F16C-1A7E-46C5-AB73-F21...

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[RBW] Re: wanted Rear derailer

[GeorgeS]

In looking at RD specifications, what exactly does "front difference"
refer to?  The difference between the smallest chain ring and the
smallest cog?  Something else?
GeorgeS

On Nov 8, 1:16 am, DavidPBest  wrote:
> I just went through this outfitting a new Atlantis.  Finding a silver
> RD that will go up to 34T is a challenge.  Yes, the one Riv sells
> (Shimano RD-M770-SGS) meets the capacity, but it's the Low Normal
> version, it only comes with a black tensioner (go figure).   The
> Shimano RD-M772-SGS (Top Normal) is as silver as they get in the
> current lineup (at least that I could find).  Even this one has some
> black on it:  http://tinyurl.com/2wasf4q This RD is about $80
> (mailorder) or $100+ at LBS.
>
> There is a previous model that will probably work for you - the RD-
> M761-SGS:  http://velospec.ru/components/shimano/rdm761sgs
> One of these RD-M761-SGS is for sale NOS on eBay for 
> $65:http://tinyurl.com/32u2745
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> David
>
> On Nov 7, 12:49 pm, ejg  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi folks
> > I'm looking for a rear derailer that can handle an 8 speed cassette
> > with 34 teeth.
> > The one Riv sells is black and I'm trying to avoid black components.
> > Something older and in nice condition would be good as it will be
> > going on a 1971 Raleigh.
> > I'd buy something new or new/used if it didn't look too techy.  I'm
> > using the new VO 50.4 Grand Cru crankset and a Suntour Superbe Pro
> > front derailer.
>
> > If anyone has anything or suggestions that'd be swell
>
> > Thanks
> > EJG- Hide quoted text -
>
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[RBW] FS: VO Campagne Handlebar Bag with Decaleur Kit

[bicitourist]

This bag is a just about 1 year old. I used it on my surly (58cm) and
it worked great. Unfortunately on my new custom (62) the bag won't sit
on the rack and reach the decaleur. Bag does have a "smudge" on it
that won't come off! take a look at the pics i did my best to show
this. This beauty mark was from when i shellacked my grip tape.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ejrosas/VOBag#

Looking for 100.00, if you feel this is out of line let me know.

Thanks --Eduardo

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[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

[scott]

I really wanted one of the plaid hobo bags and by the time I had the
money, they were gone. I asked Grant if they were coming back with
this new round of Smyth bags and he said they were a terrible seller,
so no. I think a Sackville hobo would be the absolute perfect bag
ever, but I don't think it will ever happen. I'll be happy with my old
beat Acorn and with the wonderful Riv bags available.

On Nov 8, 8:59 am, Jim Cloud  wrote:
> I would imagine that, given the universe of eBay buyers, the sale of a
> now defunct Rivendell bag made by Duluth or Frost River (the Rivendell
> Boxy bag and the "Little Joe" saddlebag that were sold recently were
> of this vintage) doesn't necessarily mean that the demand for these
> bag would justify their return to the Rivendell bag line.  Personally,
> I think that some of the current Rivendell bags are better designs
> than the earlier models.  The present SackVille BarSack, for example,
> is definitely (IMO) a better designed bag than the earlier Boxy Bag
> that was made by Duluth or Frost River.  I owned the earlier model
> (and subsequently sold it on eBay), and I never really liked the
> method of closure of the bag's top.
>
> In addition, for Rivendell to establish another bag supplier to re-do
> the older bags doesn't really sound very practical.  From a business
> perspective, and the ability to maintain a stock of the bags that they
> sell, too many suppliers would just be a headache for the Rivendell
> operations.  I do think that the availability of the current Rivendell
> bags in additional colors (especially an olive green or khaki) would
> be a nice idea.
>
> Jim Cloud
> Tucson, AZ
>
> On Nov 7, 10:42 pm, Eric  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've watched with great anticipation some great older Riv bags on
> > eBay.
>
> > Recently, this handlebar bag fetched more than $200
>
> > Found 
> > here:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320611490808&ssPag...
>
> > Another Baggins style saddle bag fetched close to $180 on eBay. So
> > obviously there is a demand for well designed bags, as the way Acorn
> > bags are in stock for what seems like seconds. And I'm a more recent
> > Riv aficionado so I missed out on buying 'em.
>
> > Anyways, why doesn't Riv reissue these bags?

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[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

[Jim Cloud]

I would imagine that, given the universe of eBay buyers, the sale of a
now defunct Rivendell bag made by Duluth or Frost River (the Rivendell
Boxy bag and the "Little Joe" saddlebag that were sold recently were
of this vintage) doesn't necessarily mean that the demand for these
bag would justify their return to the Rivendell bag line.  Personally,
I think that some of the current Rivendell bags are better designs
than the earlier models.  The present SackVille BarSack, for example,
is definitely (IMO) a better designed bag than the earlier Boxy Bag
that was made by Duluth or Frost River.  I owned the earlier model
(and subsequently sold it on eBay), and I never really liked the
method of closure of the bag's top.

In addition, for Rivendell to establish another bag supplier to re-do
the older bags doesn't really sound very practical.  From a business
perspective, and the ability to maintain a stock of the bags that they
sell, too many suppliers would just be a headache for the Rivendell
operations.  I do think that the availability of the current Rivendell
bags in additional colors (especially an olive green or khaki) would
be a nice idea.

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

On Nov 7, 10:42 pm, Eric  wrote:
> I've watched with great anticipation some great older Riv bags on
> eBay.
>
> Recently, this handlebar bag fetched more than $200
>
> Found 
> here:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320611490808&ssPag...
>
> Another Baggins style saddle bag fetched close to $180 on eBay. So
> obviously there is a demand for well designed bags, as the way Acorn
> bags are in stock for what seems like seconds. And I'm a more recent
> Riv aficionado so I missed out on buying 'em.
>
> Anyways, why doesn't Riv reissue these bags?

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[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

[rperks]

In the case of that particular bag, I think they see the newer BarSack
as an improvement and progress.  That is likely the view on many of
the designs.  They have said that about their frames in the past as
well.  While a couple of the bags fetch good money on ebay, it is hard
for us to look from the outside and know if they were great sellers to
start with, or if the newer offerings are selling far better than the
old ones did.  What we do know is that they like to make improvements
and leave some of the old designs behind.

Some of the designs while functional were never very consistent
dimensionally.  I love Hobo bags, but an inch here or there makes it a
pretty different bag, and I am not sure there were ever two the same.
I think this combined with some general supply chain issues is why we
see so few of these and have yet to see Smythe bags in a while.

Maybe there will be something new in the works, the stuff they have
coming out of RI is very well made, just not oll of the "classic"
designs of the past.  Maybe a new company will fill in on the
percieved demand?

Rob
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On Nov 7, 9:42 pm, Eric  wrote:
> I've watched with great anticipation some great older Riv bags on
> eBay.
>
> Recently, this handlebar bag fetched more than $200
>
> Found 
> here:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320611490808&ssPag...
>
> Another Baggins style saddle bag fetched close to $180 on eBay. So
> obviously there is a demand for well designed bags, as the way Acorn
> bags are in stock for what seems like seconds. And I'm a more recent
> Riv aficionado so I missed out on buying 'em.
>
> Anyways, why doesn't Riv reissue these bags?

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[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

[MKahrl]

They have.

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-barsack/20-208

It was a long wait.  The original bag was expensive and even more
expensive with a purchase of the required rack and maybe RBW felt that
handlebar bag needs were being adequately met by Berthoud.  I own a
lot of Baggins and Nigel Smyth bags but I like the quality and design
of the Sackvilles even better.




On Nov 8, 12:42 am, Eric  wrote:
> I've watched with great anticipation some great older Riv bags on
> eBay.
>
> Recently, this handlebar bag fetched more than $200
>
> Found 
> here:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320611490808&ssPag...
>
> Another Baggins style saddle bag fetched close to $180 on eBay. So
> obviously there is a demand for well designed bags, as the way Acorn
> bags are in stock for what seems like seconds. And I'm a more recent
> Riv aficionado so I missed out on buying 'em.
>
> Anyways, why doesn't Riv reissue these bags?

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[RBW] Re: wanted Rear derailer

[Garth]

I bought a couple of Deore LX M581 RD's recently, all silver ones.
These models are from a couple of years ago.
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/RD309A01-Shimano+Lx+M581+Rear+Derailleur.aspx?sc=FRGL

The problem with the good looking vintage RD's is the lack of
capacity. I have one of these that I thought would be great for my
Bombadil, but I exceeded it's capacity.
http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=3F73F16C-1A7E-46C5-AB73-F21755E71B08&Enum=108&AbsPos=37

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[RBW] Re: Another Roadworthy Simpleone('er two)

[A D]

Great build.

Your Rodeo is simply gorgeous too.  It must be fun deciding which bike
to take out for the day.




On Nov 7, 5:53 am, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Bunch,
>
> Jumped on the 60cm Simpleone a couple weeks ago.  Had to sell my Quickbeam a 
> couple years ago and really miss it.  This will be my main winter bike and it 
> will get very mucked up.  Wanted to get some pix before I fender up.
>
> Had the Phil rear hub w/ a 7speed re-done by Rich at Riv.  Kevens idea for 
> the 2 speed option.  When I had my QB I did not change gears much.  But a 
> slightly smaller gear for those times when going against the wind on my way 
> home from one of our many brewerys here in Fort Collins could come in handy.  
> Gotta wait for a headbadge.
>
> 60cm frame
>
> Sugino douple 40/38
>
> Phil rear hub no flip flop w/White 17/19 freewheel
>
> Suntour xc9000 front hub
>
> MA3 rims
>
> Nitto 8cm dirtdrop w/ mustache bars
>
> Nitto touring cages
>
> Nitto rear rack
>
> Old beat up Little Joe bag & burrito wrap
>
> Panaracer tourgard 35m tires
>
> Gripking pedals
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/d_nawrocki/sets/72157625331583032/
>
> Dave Nawrocki
> Fort Collins, CO
>
> Dave Nawrocki
> Fort Collins, CO

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[RBW] Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?

[Eric]

I've watched with great anticipation some great older Riv bags on
eBay.

Recently, this handlebar bag fetched more than $200

Found here: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320611490808&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Another Baggins style saddle bag fetched close to $180 on eBay. So
obviously there is a demand for well designed bags, as the way Acorn
bags are in stock for what seems like seconds. And I'm a more recent
Riv aficionado so I missed out on buying 'em.

Anyways, why doesn't Riv reissue these bags?

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[RBW] Re: wanted Rear derailer

[DavidPBest]

I just went through this outfitting a new Atlantis.  Finding a silver
RD that will go up to 34T is a challenge.  Yes, the one Riv sells
(Shimano RD-M770-SGS) meets the capacity, but it's the Low Normal
version, it only comes with a black tensioner (go figure).   The
Shimano RD-M772-SGS (Top Normal) is as silver as they get in the
current lineup (at least that I could find).  Even this one has some
black on it:  http://tinyurl.com/2wasf4q  This RD is about $80
(mailorder) or $100+ at LBS.

There is a previous model that will probably work for you - the RD-
M761-SGS:  http://velospec.ru/components/shimano/rdm761sgs
One of these RD-M761-SGS is for sale NOS on eBay for $65:
http://tinyurl.com/32u2745

Hope this helps.

David

On Nov 7, 12:49 pm, ejg  wrote:
> Hi folks
> I'm looking for a rear derailer that can handle an 8 speed cassette
> with 34 teeth.
> The one Riv sells is black and I'm trying to avoid black components.
> Something older and in nice condition would be good as it will be
> going on a 1971 Raleigh.
> I'd buy something new or new/used if it didn't look too techy.  I'm
> using the new VO 50.4 Grand Cru crankset and a Suntour Superbe Pro
> front derailer.
>
> If anyone has anything or suggestions that'd be swell
>
> Thanks
> EJG

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