[RBW] Re: Brooks Swallow saddle for sale

2013-11-12 Thread Tom M
Bumped down to $110 shipped. --Tom On Saturday, November 9, 2013 1:39:37 PM UTC-5, Tom M wrote: Black Brooks Swallow saddle, purchased April 2012. No more than 1000 miles on it. Has had Proofide applied. Lots of miles left. $140 shipped CONUS. Tom Milani Alexandria, VA

Re: [RBW] Need dirt road riding tips...

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
You're all set! There's a bit of a learning curve, but not a huge one. Absorb the terrain with your knees and elbows, keeping them bent. Smooth as butter. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
I don't commute, but I do ride at those temps. 20˚F is right on the edge of needing a full on jacket for me. Depending on wind, Im fine with wool long johns, a cotton wind shirt (work shirt from RIv), and their Wooly Warm Sargent's sweater (with gloves, hat, socks, shoes). At 20˚F, the roads

Re: [RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

2013-11-12 Thread Tim Gavin
I commute about 8.5 miles, but the coldest I've ridden so far is about 45˚F (it's 12˚F now). I plan on working my way down to 35˚F, and then maybe 25˚F. Technique: Hunched over aero riding position keeps more of your body out of the cold wind. Gear: I got some Cannondale slice winter gloves

[RBW] Re: Need dirt road riding tips...

2013-11-12 Thread Tim Gavin
Make sure your lights and other accessories are firmly attached. Bumps like to jar things loose, and you may not hear the sad clatter, clatter, clatter of your light bouncing in dirt/grass like you would on the road. Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Stunning Betty Foy at LBS

2013-11-12 Thread Cecily Walker
They really are gorgeous in person. I've not seen a photo yet that does the bike justice. My heart does a little dance whenever I see mine. On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:05:53 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote: Wow, what a beautiful bike. Surprised to see another Riv at the local bike shop. Curtis

Re: [RBW] Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

2013-11-12 Thread Patrick Moore
For many years I commuted 30-to-32 miles rt, often increasing the miles to 35 or 40, and most of this was done on a fixed gear on a route with some 7 miles of mostly gradual climbing inbound and inevitably a strong westerly homebound. Ages 42 to 53. I remember asking Gary only 9,000 miles -- it

Re: [RBW] Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

2013-11-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Whoops, sorry, he was on the iBoblist. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I remember asking Gary only 9,000 miles -- it was a bad year Blakely, formerly of this list, about this, ... -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer

Re: [RBW] Need dirt road riding tips...

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/11/2013 11:19 PM, Michael wrote: You Riv-folks seem to be into off road riding a lot so I figured I'd ask. There is a section of a commute-route I am pondering that takes me along what looks like an abandoned dirt road made and used by construction crews for their big vehicles. It cuts

[RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

2013-11-12 Thread Matt Beebe
I have bicycle commuted about 16-17 miles one way for the past several years.I think you have to find what works for you by trial and error, but I've found the following things work really well for me (for New England winter): -Use wool undergarments, next to skin is crucial, merino wool

[RBW] Re: Need dirt road riding tips...

2013-11-12 Thread blakcloud
If you feel you are going to get bucked off from hitting bumps or ruts, raise your butt off the seat, squeeze the seat or top tube between your legs (not tightly), and loosen your arms a tad to absorb the road shock and what ever the front end may do. I use this technique even in the city going

[RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

2013-11-12 Thread Matthew J
Hands, feet and ears need a lot of attention. 180s work for my ears. Many models fit easily under the helmet.. Lobster claw gloves are great when it gets real cold. Alpaca socks are comfortable and very warm. If you can afford it, Schoeller fabric jackets:

Re: [RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

2013-11-12 Thread Bill Gibson
Those days are over for me for now, but I know that a light, breathable Balaclava goes a long way. See: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ac20.hthttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ac20.htm m I also use an old synthetic fleece one from Patagucci. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Matthew J

[RBW] Re: Need dirt road riding tips...

2013-11-12 Thread Tony McG
I prefer to pedal in a higher gear on dirt/gravel than I do on pavement; not quite mashing, but definitely not spinning. Hang on to the handlebars tightly, but keep your elbows and shoulders loose to absorb the bumps. Beware of wet grass because I have had my rear wheel pass me when I

[RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?

2013-11-12 Thread Shoji Takahashi
crazy bike-handling skills! On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:10:14 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: I feel exhausted! If I was looking to purchase a used Carbon Pinarello I certainly would not want his :-) ~Hugh On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:26:08 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: My mild mannered math

Re: [RBW] Re: Need dirt road riding tips...

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2013 10:09 AM, Tony McG wrote: I prefer to pedal in a higher gear on dirt/gravel than I do on pavement; not quite mashing, but definitely not spinning. More weight on pedals == less weight on saddle, and easier to transition into a full post Hang on to the handlebars tightly, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

2013-11-12 Thread Tim Whalen
In addition to the above: Studded tires keep you upright even on unseen black ice. I have Nokians that I like a lot. Wind protection for all sensitive parts. Patagonia used to sell a windproof brief that worked great. I've used vapor barrier socks on my feet and neoprene overshoes for really

Re: [RBW] Flash San Diego Riv Ride Report

2013-11-12 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Very sorry to have missed this ride in my back yard; I was doing stuff with my kids. Anybody up for another San Diego area ride this Sunday, the 17th? - David G in Carmel Valley, San Diego On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:01 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: It happened again another

[RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Jim Cloud
I just looked at the Soma fabrications website and the frame section. The fact that Mike Kone of Rene Herse/Boulder BIkes is a co-designer for this frame is definitely a good indication. Mike has been around the randonneur scene for years, and his own developments at Boulder Bicycle have

[RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Jim Cloud
Something else to consider for the current production run of the Soma Randonneur frame set is this caveat from their website: *NOTE: First production has a error with the fork's crown race interface. It fits JIS(27.0) 1 threaded headsets, not the more popular ISO (26.4mm). If you think you are

[RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Tony McG
From the ReneHersestore: *Please allow about 10 days for your frame to ship - we are just catching up on prepping them.* Also - there is discussion about the fork's crown race diameter. When you purchase the frame from us we machine down the crown race so it is the typical 26.4 seat

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2013 12:04 PM, Tony McG wrote: From the ReneHersestore: *Please allow about 10 days for your frame to ship - we are just catching up on prepping them. * Also - there is discussion about the fork's crown race diameter. When you purchase the frame from us we machine down the crown

[RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread NickBull
I am in the process of building one up. Shorter chainstays should make the frame more responsive, which is a plus for randonneuring. And since this frame is designed for front-loading, there's no reason to have long chainstays for pannier clearance. There is certainly plenty of room in the

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread cyclotourist
I think it looks like a great bike. Wouldn't mind setting one up as a townie/porteur. Plus it would keep me in the bike a month club! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:07 AM, NickBull nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote: I am in the

[RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Garth
If it's what you* really want*, great ... if not ... let it pass. I'd gladly pay whatever extra to get what I really want, then nickel and dime myself with what I do not . The 65 is more like a 60 or 61 ...lol with a 33.5 standover. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2013 12:07 PM, NickBull wrote: I am in the process of building one up. Shorter chainstays should make the frame more responsive, which is a plus for randonneuring. And since this frame is designed for front-loading, there's no reason to have long chainstays for pannier clearance.

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?

2013-11-12 Thread cyclotourist
At the 2:18 mark it looks like he has some decent sized tires on there. Not 23mm!!! Anybody know the link to that guy that was doing trials on an old beat up mixte? I was looking for that but can't find it. That is a great one as well. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. -

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Jim Bronson
That is great, Nick! What are you planning on using it for? Send some pics when you're done! On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM, NickBull nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote: I am in the process of building one up. Shorter chainstays should make the frame more responsive, which is a plus for

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Henry
I wouldn't think those tires are 23mm, but they look like a 28mm, certainly not much larger, those are some wide rims though. I really liked the Wheel of Death clip, someday I want to try that. Really though the clip (and many others like it) are showcasing the skills of the rider and not the

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Jim Bronson
Why do you say it's more like a 60 or 61? Don't really care about standover to tell you the truth, just want a comfortable, well balanced ride. To give some idea of where I am with another bike, I am 6'7 and my Burley tandem is a 23/21. Not exactly ideal, but it works out pretty good in

Re: [RBW] Re: So this is how a bicycle is made

2013-11-12 Thread cyclotourist
I would like to see a video showing a contemporary Taiwanese factory. It would be interesting to compare and contrast to two of them. I presume they wouldn't hand dip the frames in enamel... :) Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Tony McG
us would be the Rene Herse Store On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:06:49 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/12/2013 12:04 PM, Tony McG wrote: From the ReneHersestore: *Please allow about 10 days for your frame to ship - we are just catching up on prepping them. * Also - there

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?

2013-11-12 Thread tarik saleh
David, mixte flipping: http://velocanoose.blogspot.com/2012/02/mixte-flipping.html Tarik On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: At the 2:18 mark it looks like he has some decent sized tires on there. Not 23mm!!! Anybody know the link to that guy that

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Garth
They've simply made the seat tube overly long, but the top of the head tube itself is well lower than the top of the ST. If you like lower bars, that'll be great. If you want higher bars without lots of spacers or extenders , not so great. Back to using a long quill adapter on a brand new

[RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
If you don't mind the loss associated with reselling it if it doesn't work out, then go for it! Like you, I have a complete 650B build kit laying around, so I could set one up for myself for under $600 total, and I love doing builds, so for me the risk would be tiny. It sounds like you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2013 02:08 PM, Garth wrote: They've simply made the seat tube overly long, but the top of the head tube itself is well lower than the top of the ST. If you like lower bars, that'll be great. If you want higher bars without lots of spacers or extenders , not so great. That does

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?

2013-11-12 Thread cyclotourist
Yes, that's the one! Proving you don't need a carbon firbre road bike to be awesome! Thank you internets! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: David, mixte flipping:

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Garth
Pretty clear by any stretch of the imagination ...lol. . Much taller than average ST height and* taller than the top of the Head Tube*. (I'm not referring to the top of the uncut steering tube) On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:26:00 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/12/2013 02:08 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2013 02:34 PM, Garth wrote: Pretty clear by any stretch of the imagination ...lol. . Much taller than average ST height and_taller than the top of the Head Tube_. (I'm not referring to the top of the uncut steering tube) That is hardly a cut-down head tube. In fact, it's a rather

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Garth
Steve ...I'm not going to continue because this could go on endlessly point-counter point-etc-etc.. This is matter of *perspective*, and I have mine, you yours, and we simply cannot see the same thing the same way no matter how many words or drawings. The orignal question was what's not to

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?

2013-11-12 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Yes, I remember seeing that one, too. I cringe when the frame crumples after the first [high!] jump/drop, and love how he then welds in a diagatube. Shouldn't the rider be wearing a helmet? :) On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:30:11 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's the one!

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?

2013-11-12 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Here's some more information about him: http://www.tribalzine.com/?Mickael-Dupont-a-crazy-street Here's what he said about that bike: There were three main difficulties; the handling of the bike (none at all), the lack of strength - I went through ten rear rims, four front rims, four handlebars

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Jim Bronson
It's a threaded quill on the Soma, so no spacers. I have one of those 225mm Nittos sitting around. If that's not long enough to make the handlebars level with the seat, then the bike is not acceptable. That's what I'm trying to work out in my mind. I will wait to talk to Boulder Cycles before

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Daniel
Jim, I'm 5 inches shorter than you and have a 61cm GR, which I choose over the 63cm trying to avoid a too-long reach. In hindsight, a 63cm would've been a better fit for me. I have more seatpost and stem showing than I think the style police would allow and I think I still want my saddle higher.

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Garth
Jim some Riv frames are assembled with spacers in a threaded headset stack to get some extra bar height with a traditional -17 degree stem. They've done this a long time, especially with the frames prior to the 6 degree sloping TT. The 64 Sam would suit you great. Also being tall, I've

[RBW] FS in Seattle: 62cm Soma Double Cross, pretty Riv-ish

2013-11-12 Thread Scot Brooks
Hi everyone, I'm selling my bike through the shop I work at to fund some more stuff for my Sam H. It's got some Riv boxes ticked, including a 34-34 reasonable low gear, high drop bars, Jim Thill built Delgado Cross/LX wheels, Marathon Racers, Deore RD, and some other good stuff. If you're

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?

2013-11-12 Thread cyclotourist
Nobody said it would be easy to be an internet sensation! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote: Here's some more information about him:

[RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Brent
I was looking forward to the Soma as well but decided to go with a Rawland Stag because of the lighter tubing spec and a much nicer bend in the fork. The Soma Grand Randonneur is stouter in it's build which is fine as Soma wanted that feature but I am on the light side and wanted something

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Tom Harrop
Jim, I'm late to this, but as a data point: I have a PBH of 100 cm I would not expect to get the bars anywhere near high enough with that Soma frame and a Tallux stem. High enough for me means at least saddle height or higher. To illustrate: I have a 66 cm Peugeot frame with a level top tube.

[RBW] Pre-Repainting Tasks?

2013-11-12 Thread Kieran J
Hey peeps, I'm thinking about having my orange Ram repainted, and am wondering a couple of things: - How is the headbadge affixed? Is it held on with adhesive? Can i used the old heat+dental floss to get it off? Or is it riveted on or some such? - Does Riv supply replacement decal kits for

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2013 03:08 PM, Garth wrote: Steve ...I'm not going to continue because this could go on endlessly point-counter point-etc-etc.. This is matter of *perspective*, and I have mine, you yours, and we simply cannot see the same thing the same way no matter how many words or drawings. No,

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Garth
Steve I say this with light heart You're missing the point I made. It's not that it does not have a liberal HT extension. The point I made was that relative to the ST top , the frame appears to have *less *ST-HT differential height , making it's no better, if not worse than a

[RBW] Re: Pre-Repainting Tasks?

2013-11-12 Thread blakcloud
From the Riv site on repainting http://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=103 I don't know about the Ram but I know the Betty Foy headbadge was mailed to me after I got the bike and it used two sided adhesive tape of some sort. Are you getting Velocolour to repaint your bike? I am thinking of

[RBW] Pikes Peak Day Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
I was blessed enough to be doing well enough to get out and away from the construction noise again today! left at first loaming (5:30am) and got spectacular views of sunrise as I LCGed my way up the rim of Ute Pass to the skirts of Pikes Peak. Took a grand meandering route from the NE side to

[RBW] Re: Pre-Repainting Tasks?

2013-11-12 Thread hsmitham
Hi Kieran, I'm having my Atlantis repainted and a thin but strong wire is used to remove the head badge, your painter should both take it off and adhere it back on the head tube with an adhesive. I called Riv and for a mere $11 postage incl they sent me new decals I figure they have Ram ones

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2013 05:13 PM, Garth wrote: Steve I say this with light heart You're missing the point I made. It's not that it does not have a liberal HT extension. The point I made was that relative to the ST top , the frame appears to have *less *ST-HT differential height , making

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Evan Baird
The seat post clamp is further from the cluster because there's less chance of heat distortion at the clamping point. We've seen issues in the past with integrated binders that didn't clamp down properly as a result of this. If you have adequate standover it shouldn't have an affect your

[RBW] Re: Pre-Repainting Tasks?

2013-11-12 Thread Kieran J
@blakcloud Thanks, I didn't notice that page of theirs. Shoulda looked harder. Yeah, Velocolour is my top (and the obvious) choice. Will probably stick with the contrasting white or cream head tube, and solid colour everything else. Choosing a colour will be tough.. @Hugh My Ram is *sans

[RBW] Re: Skipping only in high gears.

2013-11-12 Thread Michael Hechmer
Whenever I buy a new cassette I like to buy an extra outer cog, since these are the ones that wear out first. It seems to extend the life of a cassette considerably. A while back I bought a couple of extra 9 spd 12 tooth cogs because I began to doubt shimanos commitment to 9spd. I have

Re: [RBW] Re: Skipping only in high gears.

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/12/2013 06:22 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: Whenever I buy a new cassette I like to buy an extra outer cog, since these are the ones that wear out first. They do??? For the past 11 years I've been using custom 13-30 9-speed cassettes, made from 12-27s by removing the 12 and 13, adding a

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Tom Harrop
Guys, Sorry to stick my oar in but it seems to me that the question is how the seat tube (frame size) is measured. If it's measured all the way to the top of the seat tube where the seatpost clamp is, then the HT extension will be (roughly!!!) cancelled out by the seat tube extension, and the

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Day Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Michael
Thanks, Patrick. What were the temps like today? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Day Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Not bad at all. 20˚F starting out, still 20˚F at the higher elevation at 8am, but 45˚F by the time the ride was done. Minimal wind to speak of, so that helps, and clear sunny skies, so I was in a t-shirt for the last couple hours. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:06:50

Re: [RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

2013-11-12 Thread Eric Platt
For 20's my usual gear is a heavier wool top with a Marmot wind jacket. Not much ventillation. But it works in blocking the wind and cold. Otherwise, it's very variable. Sometimes wool not so tights under MUSA pants. Other times, just the pants. If it's warmish for winter, then maybe an old

[RBW] I Love Autumn Bike Rides

2013-11-12 Thread Mojo
This was a quick little ride after work until dark this week.http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/10828931806/Its a trail here in Grand Junction between the Colorado River and the Colorado National Monument. It became just a delightful ride with lovely light and a descent in the dark. --

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

2013-11-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
There are names for both of these measurements and their position in space is not ambiguous. You don't need to rotate photographs or draw lines on anything. You do need to look at the numbers and trust that Boulder is publishing accurate numbers. I do trust them, but it never hurts to

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Day Ride

2013-11-12 Thread WETH
Beautiful photos. You look particularly content enjoying the cigar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: I Love Autumn Bike Rides

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great shot! I am glad to hear they have a connector trail to Colorado National Monument. Doing a tour from there down through other canyon country to the south is on my list -- I'm (foolishly?) hopeful the roads are remote enough I won't have my trip ended by a motorcycle. With abandon,

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Day Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Yeah, I didn't buy enough organic pipe tobaccie to keep them in business, so it's organic cigars for me now. You are right, contentment is the perfect word for a smoke in a remote and quiet and sunny mountain meadow with a view. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, November 12, 2013

[RBW] Re: I Love Autumn Bike Rides

2013-11-12 Thread Michael
Beautiful! What happened to the original fork? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 700C wheels

2013-11-12 Thread Trevor saxton
Hi Tim I have some brand new wheels with a cassette installed, tiagara hubs open sport rim, never ridden. Not fancy but will do the trick, email me if interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
A friend is planning on coming on the flash ride on Pikes Peak and was wondering whether to bring his MTB or road bike (33 mm tires aka 27 x 1.75). I helpfully replied, “What are those? I just ride.” He laughed and replied “No. Seriously. Which one?” I don’t know the condition of the most

[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
The strength of the scent will determine the distance. Grin. There were some amazing pine, vanilla and loamy scents on today's ride. Curious to smell what is in store for a post snow ride (snow likely Friday). With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:34:19 PM UTC-7, hsmitham

[RBW] Re: I Love Autumn Bike Rides

2013-11-12 Thread Mojo
Tom Matchakhttp://tommatchakcycles.blogspot.com/2007/03/frame-neutral-replacement-fork.htmlbuilt a low-trail replacement, and the front rack. I could not match the custom copper paint, no matter how hard I tried. On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 6:26:32 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Beautiful!

[RBW] Re: How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Your best bet is to describe the terrain and let him decide. The what bike/tire for dirt debate is almost as subjective as saddles: One person's fun ride can make another person feel in over their head. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 6:04:33 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick

[RBW] Re: How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
That's the thing, he's new to multitudinous terrain riding, so he has no reference point. Since my Hunqapillar runs 50 mm tires, I don't either. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:34:41 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Your best bet is to describe the terrain and let him

Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Not seeing any posts by any other Southeastern Coloradins? Other than you I haven't seen many on the Bunch perhaps they're waiting for fair weather ;-) Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: The strength of the scent will determine the

[RBW] Re: How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-12 Thread Brian Campbell
I would then tell him to bring the mountain bike. Right tool for the job. Even if it is a bit overkill, better to have too much capability than not enough. On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:42:39 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: That's the thing, he's new to multitudinous terrain riding, so he

Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
No worries, Hugh. So far there are two of us and we'll enjoy the ride! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:53:29 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Not seeing any posts by any other Southeastern Coloradins? Other than you I haven't seen many on the Bunch perhaps they're waiting for

[RBW] Re: How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Brian. That's precisely my fall back response, but I was wondering if there is a general rule of 30 mm or 35 mm or ??? being the low end of ridable on fire roads. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:04:14 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: I would then tell him to

Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Day Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Robert Barr
And everyday is a wonder! On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Yeah, I didn't buy enough organic pipe tobaccie to keep them in business, so it's organic cigars for me now. You are right, contentment is the perfect word for a smoke in a remote and quiet

Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Deacon who is the other someone from the Group? Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: No worries, Hugh. So far there are two of us and we'll enjoy the ride! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:53:29 PM UTC-7, hsmitham

[RBW] Favorite Catalogue Quote Post

2013-11-12 Thread Pondero
Here's (one of) mine... Darkens with exposure to methane. - page 24 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Day Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Mojo
Sounds great Patrick, thanks for sharing. But I think Ute Pass is on the Great Divide route in Summit County :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Mojo
Wish I could join you, but I have to work through the weekend. Saturday may be the last good mountain ride day of the year. The storm system passing through on Sunday was looking more impressive, producing significant mountain snows. On Monday, November 11, 2013 5:55:01 PM UTC-7, Deacon

Re: [RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Steve isn't from the group. But he's this guy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9980990853/in/set-72157635975329866 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:15:27 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Deacon who is the other someone from the Group? Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM,

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Day Ride

2013-11-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Indeed. But I didn't ride that far. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:18:56 PM UTC-7, Mojo wrote: Sounds great Patrick, thanks for sharing. But I think Ute Pass is on the Great Divide route in Summit County :-) -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-12 Thread hsmitham
Good advice from Brian. Better to be initially over prepared than under. The more he rides mixed terrain the better he'll be able to assess the equipment to terrain factor. ~Hugh On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:12:16 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks, Brian. That's precisely my fall

[RBW] Re: Favorite Catalogue Quote Post

2013-11-12 Thread dougP
Page 29: If you ever see these pieces of your Silver lever, it probably means you took apart something that was never intended to be taken apart. No, we don't have the spare itzy-bitzies. dougP On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:18:31 PM UTC-8, Pondero wrote: Here's (one of) mine... Darkens

[RBW] Re: How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-12 Thread oldmangabe
Patrick, If neither of you are confident on the terrain conditions, and he is not confident handling a road bike in the dirt then I would agree and say the mtn bike is the better choice. As to your question as to what is a general rule of thumb for fire road riding, I have two answers. Again

Re: [RBW] Re: How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-12 Thread cyclotourist
As long as it's (mostly) hardpack, 33mm is fine. Rear tire may spin out on steep climbs though, even on hardpack. If you're not sure of the condition, the MTB is a better bet. On 11/12/13, oldmangabe oldmang...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, If neither of you are confident on the terrain

Re: [RBW] Re: I Love Autumn Bike Rides

2013-11-12 Thread cyclotourist
I do like that bike, with whatever fork it has on it! On 11/12/13, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Tom Matchakhttp://tommatchakcycles.blogspot.com/2007/03/frame-neutral-replacement-fork.htmlbuilt a low-trail replacement, and the front rack. I could not match the custom copper paint, no matter

[RBW] S24O to Pt. Reyes Friday the 23rd

2013-11-12 Thread BSWP
If'n any others want to join, I have a campsite reserved at Sky Camp in Point Reyes, going to ride there from Embarcadero BART on Friday the 23rd. The site is roomy, or others could reserve their own. Might be cold, could well be wet, but if it's clear it has great views of the seashore and the

[RBW] Re: How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-12 Thread john
If your friend is riding Jack Brown's not to worry! I love these tires! The best I've ridden regardless of width. They are fantastic on the dirt, fantastic on the pavement. 33.3 do me better than fine on fire roads here in Oregon. I'm ever aware of the fat tire craze in these parts (the

[RBW] OT: What would YOU do?

2013-11-12 Thread Shawn Granton
Hello friends, I figured I'd ask the great braintrust that is the Riv list for a little assistance. Today I took a peek at Portland's bike section on Craigslist, as I am wont to do from time to time. And I noticed this ad: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/4188282827.html *BROOKS LEATHER

[RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?

2013-11-12 Thread Michael
That is amazing bike handling skill. Makes you wonder how many hours/years it took and all the tumbles he took in the process to get that good. I can only just barely pop my front wheel off the ground a coupla inches. Makes you want to buy a beater Riv you can learn on. -- You received

Re: [RBW] OT: What would YOU do?

2013-11-12 Thread Aaron Young
Shawn, Nice saddle. I would definitely ask more than $50 for it. :^) I think you can flag it. And it would be easy enough to have a few others do the same. That would get it removed from CL at least. I know for certain that this kind of thing (stealing someone else's photos) is not allowed