[RBW] How to Determine the "Correct" Tire Pressure?

[Jan Heine]

One of the most common questions I get asked is what tire pressure is best 
for performance and comfort. After years of studying tire performance, the 
amazing answer is that tire pressure doesn't matter much... I wrote a piece 
on why that is the case, and what it means for every rider as they set up 
their bikes:

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/tire-pressure-take-home/

Enjoy!

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
www.bikequarterly.com

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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky to enjoy the weather

[Tony DeFilippo]

Thanks Ryan!  The Saluki got the duty Monday... Maybe the Bob Jackson tomorrow, 
I've been trying to keep the cycle going  now that they are all up and running 
simultaneously!

Tony

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Re: [RBW] 53cm Roadeo for sale. Orange color

[bo richardson]

oh, fun
i went to UK for library school and got my first
really good bicycle at 10th gear from Steve Bishop.
It was a Tanguy he may have built in Somerville Mass.

i am checking with a woman friend who may,
like 50% chance, want your roadeo.
not probably going to go that far to ride it first

thanks

bo

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[RBW] Re: Comments on Compass Crankset on an A. Homer Hilsen?

[stonehog]

I have the Compass cranks on two bikes - a Hilsen and a Toussaint.  Love 
them.  They are quite tight on the Q-factor, so if you are used to triple 
MTB cranks, these will feel narrow.  I believe I have a 107mm bottom 
bracket on the Hilsen.  The Toussaint has a 113mm.  As I use flats now 
exclusively, I am less sensitive to the narrow Q on these, but when I was 
using Frogs, I added a few washers to push them out a bit.  

The quality is as promised.  I have very little wear on the rings after 
several thousand miles on both bikes.  They are quite beautiful, as well, 
so if you are concerned with aesthetics, this is your crank :)  Let me know 
if you have any other questions.  

I have a few writeups with pics here:  

http://stonehog.com/2012/05/28/rene-herse-crank/
http://stonehog.com/2016/01/06/trail-riding/

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 1:04:29 PM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> I believe Brian who runs the blog Stone Hog has a set on a Hilsen. I think 
> he's pretty active on the list if you search his name and private reply to 
> one of his posts, I'm sure he'll respond with his experiences.
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 6:46:29 AM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote:
>>
>> Anyone using a Compass crankset on a Homer Hilsen? If so, what bottom 
>> bracket/spindle are you using? And what are your thoughts on the crankset 
>> itself. Feel free to email me if you'd rather comment privately. Thanks!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Curious Brooks damage

[Hugh Smitham]

I think that thought passed though others minds but you Jim voiced it :)
On Mar 9, 2016 8:02 PM, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:

> balls of steel?
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:
>
>>
>> 
>> I've been riding a Brooks B17 Special since I got my Atlantis, which was
>> about 1.5 years ago. I applied proofide when I bought it. Over time I've
>> developed this weird 'snake bite' pattern right above the metal nose piece.
>> I just emailed Brooks and they indicated it was 'in desperate and immediate
>> need of tensioning', which I find odd. The saddle still has the shape it
>> had when new. It's not sagging or a hammock like some very old and worn
>> saddles. I was under the impression tensioning these saddles unnecessarily
>> could lead to premature failure. 1.5 years seems pretty early. Anyone else
>> have this problem? I'm going to follow their advice, but thought it was
>> weird.
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Re: [RBW] Curious Brooks damage

[Jim Bronson]

balls of steel?

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:

>
> 
> I've been riding a Brooks B17 Special since I got my Atlantis, which was
> about 1.5 years ago. I applied proofide when I bought it. Over time I've
> developed this weird 'snake bite' pattern right above the metal nose piece.
> I just emailed Brooks and they indicated it was 'in desperate and immediate
> need of tensioning', which I find odd. The saddle still has the shape it
> had when new. It's not sagging or a hammock like some very old and worn
> saddles. I was under the impression tensioning these saddles unnecessarily
> could lead to premature failure. 1.5 years seems pretty early. Anyone else
> have this problem? I'm going to follow their advice, but thought it was
> weird.
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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky to enjoy the weather

[Ryan Thompson]

Great shots Tony.  I see you rode the Bomba today instead of the Saluki, 
looking good.  

Ryan

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:12:03 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> A truly excellent life decision!  I couldn't make the magic happen for 
> myself with an early departure but I did get some extra miles in before 
> work today... caught sunrise from the Key Bridge and then a delicious 
> Americano from Baked and Wired in Georgetown... it's hard to have a bad day 
> after that.  Ride home was pretty great too.
>
> Couple shots on the blog 
> - http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2016/03/spring-morning-extra-mileage.html 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky to enjoy the weather

[Tony DeFilippo]

A truly excellent life decision!  I couldn't make the magic happen for 
myself with an early departure but I did get some extra miles in before 
work today... caught sunrise from the Key Bridge and then a delicious 
Americano from Baked and Wired in Georgetown... it's hard to have a bad day 
after that.  Ride home was pretty great too.

Couple shots on the blog 
- http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2016/03/spring-morning-extra-mileage.html 










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[RBW] FS: 64cm Atlantis 2TT

[Michael Williams]

hey group,   Up for sale is a 64cm Atlantis,  2 top tubes,   ~ 18months young!  
 The bike is just a bit too big.  Asking $1550 for frame/ fork/  chris king 
headset+ packing/ shipping.   If at all interested,  message me off list 
please!   Thanks!  -Mike

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[RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Reid]

It looks to me as though the nose piece is at the wrong angle, probably 
from new. As have a lot of people on this list, I have seen some pretty 
well worn and abused Brooks saddles, but never any like that. I agree with 
the "warranty" comment above.

Reid


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Re: [RBW] 53cm Roadeo for sale. Orange color

[RJM]

I live in Paducah, Kentucky.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Legolas (PRICE REDUCED)

[Sean Hipkin]

Thx Bill!

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 12:26:39 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I've seen that bike in person and Sean's price is about half of what's 
> fair.  If this was my size it would have been over with a long time ago. 
>  If there's somebody out there that wants the frameset only, let me know 
> offlist what you want to pay for it.  If I like it, I'll buy the bike from 
> Sean, absorb the parts and ship you the frame + fork + headset. In his 
> years at Riv, Sean has been especially kind to me and my family, so I'd be 
> glad to do him a favor.   
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 11:08:14 AM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Somebody is going to get a he77 of a deal, one heck of a bike... the 
>> best color, too. 
>>
>> "Almost tempted" but, oh yeah... 
>> =- Joe Bunik 
>> Walnut Creek, CA 
>>
>> On 3/9/16, Leslie  wrote: 
>> > I was going to say, I'm running 40 MSO's on my canti-Rom, would've 
>> thought 
>> > a Legolas could handle it too 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:47:24 AM UTC-5, Sean Hipkin wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Oops my bad! They are 42's. You can fit a 33 with a fender 
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks for catching that 
>> >> 
>> >> Sean 
>> >> 
>> >> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:29:36 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> That is a beautiful bike! Sean, what size are the tires in the 
>> picture? 
>> >>> They look larger than 33mm. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> With abandon, 
>> >>> Patrick 
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:18:05 PM UTC-7, Sean Hipkin wrote: 
>>  
>>  It has a quill stem and clearance to fit 33mm tires well. 
>>  
>> >>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

[IanA]

Use plastic tankards, lads. Like they have in 
Scotland. 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10083843/Scottish-outrage-at-nanny-state-plan-to-ban-pint-glass-in-Highlands-pubs.html

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:26:55 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Thanks, Bill. We'll drink a glass together one day.
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
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>> Apology accepted.  Unnecessary 18th century duel cancelled.
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[RBW] Re: Anybody switched from 58 to 62 Hunq?

[Daniel Jackson]

The short of it is: the 58 is working very well. 

My body is a bit odd, I believe. I'm 6'3" with a 905 mm PBH. Shorter than 
average legs attached to a longer than average torso (or maybe my neck is 
just long). Initially, I thought this would mean that the top tube would 
fall short and I'd desperately hope for extra reach. But this has not been 
the case with the setup that I prefer: albastache bars on an 8 cm dirt 
drop; bars just below saddle height. I think this has to mean that my neck 
is long...

My recommendation for those on the cusp between sizes that want to buy new 
now or used: if you're running drops or an alternative bar with a bit more 
reach like the albastache, go with the 58; if you're running albatross, 
chocos, boscos, etc., go with the 62. 

But my real recommendation is: wait a couple more months for the new Hunq 
to come out. Rumor has it there will be a size 60 in the lineup with even 
greater tire clearances than the current iteration.

Hope this helps someone out there. 

Best,
D. 

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:35:23 PM UTC-5, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> What bar/stem combo are you going to run with your Hunqapillar?  I have a 
> 62 Hunq and run it with a bullmoose bar.  I have a 98.5cm PBH, I'm 6'2"ish 
> and the bike fits me like a glove.  If you are a 90cm PBH and are running a 
> bullmoose bar, a 58 will probably feel great.  If you a running an 
> Albatrose bar, you would be fine in the 62 as well.   Just my two cents.
>
> Keith
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 6:48:50 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> If so, what were your reasons, was it the right choice, and what is your 
>> PBH and height?
>>
>> Thanks folks. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] 53cm Roadeo for sale. Orange color

[bo richardson]

where is the bike located in physical geograhical space?

thanks

bo

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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Suntour Accushift Plus Shifters

[JohnS]

Shifters are sold.

JohnS


On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 9:11:58 PM UTC-5, JohnS wrote:

> For Sale: Suntour Accushift Plus Shifters, 7 speed or friction. I bought 
> these as a bike flee market years ago and never used them. Looks like they 
> weren’t used by the previous owner either. Shifters only, no cables nor 
> instructions. Asking $60 for the pair, free shipping within lower 48, 
> Paypal preferred. Please contact me off-list.
>
> Thank you,
> JohnS
>
> *Suntour Command Shifters* 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[René Sterental]

I used my P rack on both my Hunqapillar and my Atlantis and mounted via
the internal cable route an Edelux I headlight. It worked very well, and I
used it mostly with a basket for the Sackville ShopSacks. It is one of the
first steel (not black) racks they started doing and its held up very well.

Since I've now settled on the Campee front/rear racks for the Atlantis
which I like better, I'm going to sell my P rack and for now, keeping the
Edelux light installed in it.

I will be traveling on Saturday for two weeks, so the formal post will come
later, but if anyone is interested, please let me know off-list. Asking
$300 + shipping for the combo OBO.

René

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:

> Late to the party, but I will share a couple thoughts.  By all accounts
> the P rack is nice, but it is also as expensive as a custom porteur rack
> and the more adaptable a rack is, generally the more flexible and heavier
> it will be.  Depending on your goal and price point, there are a couple
> CETMA racks that are similar function and cheaper, if more crude (
> http://cetmacargo.com/pages/cetma-racks-info), and Wald has a giant
> rack-sket now (
> http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/front-baskets/257-ewalde28099s-multi-fit-front-rack/)
> that is way cheaper than anything similar.
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:03 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
>
>> I just needed one solid endorsement. Sent in my payment just now. For
>> those interested, current queue time is 6-8 weeks.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:07 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a P rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a
>>> large Wald basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small Berthoud
>>> panniers on it (paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with
>>> tent, sleeping bag and pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in all
>>> configurations. Pics of various iterations are on my Flickr stream.
>>>
>>> You didn't ask this question specifically, but I'll answer it anyway:
>>> the P rack is beautifully made and well thought out. It has light mounts,
>>> and provides for internal routing of wiring. Very solid and flexible
>>> mounting system. I love it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:17 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my
>>> Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had
>>> pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to
>>> go back on another back.
>>> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light,
>>> bulky items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order
>>> easily.
>>> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need
>>> to add a basket on top.
>>> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about
>>> folks using that rack with front panniers.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
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Re: [RBW] 53cm Roadeo for sale. Orange color

[Patrick Moore]

I'll be very interested to hear your riding impressions of the Legolas
compared to the Roadeo. I've owned a Ram and wanted a Roadeo, but I've
heard that the Roadeo is pretty darn close to feel and handling of the Ram,
but that the Legolas is the lightest and most "racy" bike of the lot.

I'd be interested in learning how its tubes compare with those of Ram and
Roadeo, and even more important, how it handles compared to the other 2.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:10 PM, RJM  wrote:

> Well, the wife said I can't get another bike without selling one and I
> want a Legolas bad, so to get the money and the permission for one I'm
> selling my lovely, beloved Roadeo. Here are the specs:
>
> 53cm Roadeo - Custom Orange color with cream headtube. (gorgeous, it
> really is. Made by Waterford)
> Quill stem with a 9cm Nitto lugged stem
>
> black Chris King headset
>
> Mark's bars 44cm (I think. these were one step up from the narrowest bars
> Riv sold. I don't see the Mark's bars on their site anymore, but they are
> kind of a classic bar shape but made light with fantastic Nitto aluminum).
>
> Full Shimano Ultegra 6800 drivetrain.
> cranks are 50/34 and 172.5
> cassette is Ultegra 6800 11x28 which works well for me in the steepish
> rolling hills I encounter.
> bottom bracket is 6800
>
> brakes are Tektro R539. The normal brake Riv specs with Roadeo builds.
>
> Seatpost is Nitto S83. Saddles and pedals are so personal so I'll sell the
> full build without them.
>
> Wheels are Rolf Vigor RS wheels. Surprisingly stiff for low spoke count
> wheels and they are lightweight.
>
>
> Now, I know that this is not the preferred build many here would like and
> I can use the parts on another bike, so *I can sell the frame by itself
> if you prefer that*. Frame, fork, Chris King headset for $1300.00 shipped
> to you. Full bike say $2600.00 shipped. That's better than half off on a
> new one.
>
> The bike is in excellent shape...never crashed and I keep it in the living
> room, so it doesn't really ever get wet unless I'm riding on it. The frame
> is only two years old and the only real blemish I can see, with the
> exception of some paint chipping at the dropouts where the wheel goes in,
> is a paint chip on the top tube. I put that in there when I originally
> built the bike (slipped with a wrench. It turned out to be a good thing
> because after that first paint chip I find I don't freak out and baby a
> bike too much). It just chipped the paint a little and isn't through the
> primer and hasn't rusted or anything.
>
> I'm currently at work and can't get pictures into Flick'r to save, but
> when I get home I will shoot some and put the link up here, and I will take
> a closeup of the paint chip. I have one picture that I will link to from my
> original build that I have. The bike is slightly different now with 25cm
> Continental 4000gp tires and the bar tape is cloth taped that is twined and
> shellacked a nice light brownish color.
>
> Any questions you can email me through here or just respond and I will
> check it asap. Thanks.
>
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[RBW] Re: 53cm Roadeo for sale. Orange color

[RJM]

https://flic.kr/s/aHskvVinvM

Here is a link to a Roadeo album I just made. These are quick cell phone 
pics so if you need better ones just ask. I tried to get a good shot of 
that paint chip in the top tube too. I also added the photo that Mark sent 
me of the frame right before Riv sent it to me just for fun. 

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 3:12:08 PM UTC-6, RJM wrote:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/n1ngDa
>
> Here is the flick'r link to the one picture.
>

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[RBW] Re: 53cm Roadeo for sale. Orange color

[RJM]

I just thought that is where they belonglol. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Legolas (PRICE REDUCED)

[Esteban]

I love love love this bike. Sean's OK too. 


On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:18:05 PM UTC-8, Sean Hipkin wrote:
>
> Hi folks! Looking to sell my beloved 62cm Legolas. 
>
> I would like to sell it as a complete bike + some extra tires, brake 
> levers ext.. for $2400 OBO. This price includes shipping. (peddles not 
> included) 
>
> PS: This Legolas was custom built by Mark Nobilette in 2014 so it is 
> slightly different than a "normal" Lego. It has a quill stem and clearance 
> to fit 33mm tires well. The frame has a few small blems in the paint from 
> riding primarily off road, but nothing bad. The Tan paint job and a little 
> dirt hides the blems well. 
>
> My PBH is 90. With the saddle on the seat post is set at around 78/79cm
>
> Email me if you would like more info. I also attached a photo of the bike 
> in it's latest form. 
>
> Some of the parts include:
>
> DT Hugi hubs
> Rear wheel (dyad rim)
> Front wheel (A23 rim) 
> nitto 100mm stem
> Dura-Ace "Shimano team" seat post, Fancy!
> Nitto noodle 46cm bars
> Shimano bar ends
> sugino compact double crank 
> I also have some extra cross tires and Sram levers I'll throw in
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
> Sean
>

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[RBW] Re: Comments on Compass Crankset on an A. Homer Hilsen?

[ted]

I am using a Compass/RH crankset with 30/46 rings on my AHH. The bottom 
bracket is a 108mm from White Industries.
Clearance between the small ring and the right chain stay is minimal but 
seems to be sufficient. I think the chainline I have is less than 
"standard", but I prefer having the big ring as close to the middle of the 
cassette as possible. 
Overall I am very pleased with the RH cranks. They have changed production 
to use a stronger alloy, and now offer 3 lengths (165, 171, and 177). I 
think they have also refined the crank bolts slightly (flat vs domed) since 
I bought my cranks.

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 3:46:29 AM UTC-8, Iron Rider wrote:
>
> Anyone using a Compass crankset on a Homer Hilsen? If so, what bottom 
> bracket/spindle are you using? And what are your thoughts on the crankset 
> itself. Feel free to email me if you'd rather comment privately. Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

[Bill Lindsay]

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:53:37 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Horses for courses!
>

Haha.  LITERALLY!  :-)

Anyway...I went by HQ again today, since I had overlooked a good fender 
solution.  I bought myself a set of B65 fenders, plus an extra stay-kit to 
do some additional fender work on other bikes, and a King Cage.  While I 
was there I saw several finished Appaloosas, waiting to be picked up. 
 Several people should be having some fun.   

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[RBW] MIESHA HAS LEFT RIVENDELL

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

New news to me.
I found out today Miesha has found other employment but has left Riv in 
good standing.
*WE WILL MISS YOU MIESHA! *
What a wonderful person.Best wishes to her.
Jon

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[RBW] Re: 53cm Roadeo for sale. Orange color

[Ryan Fleming]

You're not the only one who keeps Rivs in the living room and not the 
garage:) Nice bikeit'll make someone happy!

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 3:10:25 PM UTC-6, RJM wrote:
>
> Well, the wife said I can't get another bike without selling one and I 
> want a Legolas bad, so to get the money and the permission for one I'm 
> selling my lovely, beloved Roadeo. Here are the specs:
>
> 53cm Roadeo - Custom Orange color with cream headtube. (gorgeous, it 
> really is. Made by Waterford)
> Quill stem with a 9cm Nitto lugged stem
>
> black Chris King headset
>
> Mark's bars 44cm (I think. these were one step up from the narrowest bars 
> Riv sold. I don't see the Mark's bars on their site anymore, but they are 
> kind of a classic bar shape but made light with fantastic Nitto aluminum).
>
> Full Shimano Ultegra 6800 drivetrain. 
> cranks are 50/34 and 172.5
> cassette is Ultegra 6800 11x28 which works well for me in the steepish 
> rolling hills I encounter.
> bottom bracket is 6800
>
> brakes are Tektro R539. The normal brake Riv specs with Roadeo builds. 
>
> Seatpost is Nitto S83. Saddles and pedals are so personal so I'll sell the 
> full build without them.
>
> Wheels are Rolf Vigor RS wheels. Surprisingly stiff for low spoke count 
> wheels and they are lightweight.  
>
>
> Now, I know that this is not the preferred build many here would like and 
> I can use the parts on another bike, so *I can sell the frame by itself 
> if you prefer that*. Frame, fork, Chris King headset for $1300.00 shipped 
> to you. Full bike say $2600.00 shipped. That's better than half off on a 
> new one.
>
> The bike is in excellent shape...never crashed and I keep it in the living 
> room, so it doesn't really ever get wet unless I'm riding on it. The frame 
> is only two years old and the only real blemish I can see, with the 
> exception of some paint chipping at the dropouts where the wheel goes in, 
> is a paint chip on the top tube. I put that in there when I originally 
> built the bike (slipped with a wrench. It turned out to be a good thing 
> because after that first paint chip I find I don't freak out and baby a 
> bike too much). It just chipped the paint a little and isn't through the 
> primer and hasn't rusted or anything.
>
> I'm currently at work and can't get pictures into Flick'r to save, but 
> when I get home I will shoot some and put the link up here, and I will take 
> a closeup of the paint chip. I have one picture that I will link to from my 
> original build that I have. The bike is slightly different now with 25cm 
> Continental 4000gp tires and the bar tape is cloth taped that is twined and 
> shellacked a nice light brownish color.  
>
> Any questions you can email me through here or just respond and I will 
> check it asap. Thanks.
>

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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Matthew J]

P.S.  Not that it matters in this instance, but the CETMA Half Rack is also 
pannier compatible...

Indeed.  Cetma is also a versatile design. 

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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Matthew J]

I gave a custom porteur rack to someone on the list.  Always wondered 
whether he was able to get it to work on his bike.  With luck he sees this 
and chimes in. 

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[RBW] 53cm Roadeo for sale. Orange color

[RJM]

https://flic.kr/p/n1ngDa

Here is the flick'r link to the one picture.

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[RBW] 53cm Roadeo for sale. Orange color

[RJM]

Well, the wife said I can't get another bike without selling one and I want 
a Legolas bad, so to get the money and the permission for one I'm selling 
my lovely, beloved Roadeo. Here are the specs:

53cm Roadeo - Custom Orange color with cream headtube. (gorgeous, it really 
is. Made by Waterford)
Quill stem with a 9cm Nitto lugged stem

black Chris King headset

Mark's bars 44cm (I think. these were one step up from the narrowest bars 
Riv sold. I don't see the Mark's bars on their site anymore, but they are 
kind of a classic bar shape but made light with fantastic Nitto aluminum).

Full Shimano Ultegra 6800 drivetrain. 
cranks are 50/34 and 172.5
cassette is Ultegra 6800 11x28 which works well for me in the steepish 
rolling hills I encounter.
bottom bracket is 6800

brakes are Tektro R539. The normal brake Riv specs with Roadeo builds. 

Seatpost is Nitto S83. Saddles and pedals are so personal so I'll sell the 
full build without them.

Wheels are Rolf Vigor RS wheels. Surprisingly stiff for low spoke count 
wheels and they are lightweight.  


Now, I know that this is not the preferred build many here would like and I 
can use the parts on another bike, so *I can sell the frame by itself if 
you prefer that*. Frame, fork, Chris King headset for $1300.00 shipped to 
you. Full bike say $2600.00 shipped. That's better than half off on a new 
one.

The bike is in excellent shape...never crashed and I keep it in the living 
room, so it doesn't really ever get wet unless I'm riding on it. The frame 
is only two years old and the only real blemish I can see, with the 
exception of some paint chipping at the dropouts where the wheel goes in, 
is a paint chip on the top tube. I put that in there when I originally 
built the bike (slipped with a wrench. It turned out to be a good thing 
because after that first paint chip I find I don't freak out and baby a 
bike too much). It just chipped the paint a little and isn't through the 
primer and hasn't rusted or anything.

I'm currently at work and can't get pictures into Flick'r to save, but when 
I get home I will shoot some and put the link up here, and I will take a 
closeup of the paint chip. I have one picture that I will link to from my 
original build that I have. The bike is slightly different now with 25cm 
Continental 4000gp tires and the bar tape is cloth taped that is twined and 
shellacked a nice light brownish color.  

Any questions you can email me through here or just respond and I will 
check it asap. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Comments on Compass Crankset on an A. Homer Hilsen?

[Philip Kim]

I believe Brian who runs the blog Stone Hog has a set on a Hilsen. I think 
he's pretty active on the list if you search his name and private reply to 
one of his posts, I'm sure he'll respond with his experiences.

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 6:46:29 AM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote:
>
> Anyone using a Compass crankset on a Homer Hilsen? If so, what bottom 
> bracket/spindle are you using? And what are your thoughts on the crankset 
> itself. Feel free to email me if you'd rather comment privately. Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Legolas (PRICE REDUCED)

[Bill Lindsay]

I've seen that bike in person and Sean's price is about half of what's 
fair.  If this was my size it would have been over with a long time ago. 
 If there's somebody out there that wants the frameset only, let me know 
offlist what you want to pay for it.  If I like it, I'll buy the bike from 
Sean, absorb the parts and ship you the frame + fork + headset. In his 
years at Riv, Sean has been especially kind to me and my family, so I'd be 
glad to do him a favor.   

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 11:08:14 AM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Somebody is going to get a he77 of a deal, one heck of a bike... the 
> best color, too. 
>
> "Almost tempted" but, oh yeah... 
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
>
> On 3/9/16, Leslie  wrote: 
> > I was going to say, I'm running 40 MSO's on my canti-Rom, would've 
> thought 
> > a Legolas could handle it too 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:47:24 AM UTC-5, Sean Hipkin wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Oops my bad! They are 42's. You can fit a 33 with a fender 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for catching that 
> >> 
> >> Sean 
> >> 
> >> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:29:36 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> That is a beautiful bike! Sean, what size are the tires in the 
> picture? 
> >>> They look larger than 33mm. 
> >>> 
> >>> With abandon, 
> >>> Patrick 
> >>> 
> >>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:18:05 PM UTC-7, Sean Hipkin wrote: 
>  
>  It has a quill stem and clearance to fit 33mm tires well. 
>  
> >>> 
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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[David Banzer]

I did just see that the Cetma half rack will take panniers. Style just 
isn't for me.
David
Chicago

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 1:55:02 PM UTC-6, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
> Yes, I had to send out my fork and front fender when I had my custom SS 
> porteur rack made years ago.  And if you anticipate changing bikes, the P 
> can adapt to the new one as well.  And if you find a porteur rack isn't for 
> you, a P will retain more of its value than a custom rack, although a 
> custom for a relatively common bike would probably also be pretty easy to 
> sell...
>
> Doug
>
> P.S.  Not that it matters in this instance, but the CETMA Half Rack is 
> also pannier compatible...
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:37 PM, David Banzer  > wrote:
>
>> I considered going custom, pricepoint would've been similar for a porteur 
>> rack with rails for panniers. The downside would be I'd need to send the 
>> builder my fork, then I'd be out my daily rider for a while. The P rack's 
>> ability to fit other bikes is a plus for me. If I ever get an itch to set 
>> up my Clem differently, the rack will easily fit a couple other bikes I 
>> have. If I'd gone custom, the rack most likely wouldn't fit another bike.
>> The goal was to have a porteur rack platform with front panniers. Price 
>> wise, Nitto 32f & Hub Area Rack would be more expensive and I wouldn't have 
>> the large platform.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 12:41:18 PM UTC-6, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>>
>>> Late to the party, but I will share a couple thoughts.  By all accounts 
>>> the P rack is nice, but it is also as expensive as a custom porteur rack 
>>> and the more adaptable a rack is, generally the more flexible and heavier 
>>> it will be.  Depending on your goal and price point, there are a couple 
>>> CETMA racks that are similar function and cheaper, if more crude (
>>> http://cetmacargo.com/pages/cetma-racks-info 
>>> ),
>>>  
>>> and Wald has a giant rack-sket now (
>>> http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/front-baskets/257-ewalde28099s-multi-fit-front-rack/)
>>>  
>>> that is way cheaper than anything similar.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:03 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>>
 I just needed one solid endorsement. Sent in my payment just now. For 
 those interested, current queue time is 6-8 weeks.
 David
 Chicago

 On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:07 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
>
> I have a P rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a 
> large Wald basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small 
> Berthoud 
> panniers on it (paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with 
> tent, sleeping bag and pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in 
> all 
> configurations. Pics of various iterations are on my Flickr stream. 
>
> You didn't ask this question specifically, but I'll answer it anyway: 
> the P rack is beautifully made and well thought out. It has light 
> mounts, 
> and provides for internal routing of wiring. Very solid and flexible 
> mounting system. I love it. 
>
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:17 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
>
> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my 
> Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had 
> pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to 
> go back on another back. 
> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, 
> bulky items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order 
> easily.
> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd 
> need to add a basket on top.
> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious 
> about folks using that rack with front panniers.
> David
> Chicago
>
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Re: [RBW] P Porteur rack

[Doug Van Cleve]

Neat bike.  The carbon fiber bar ends as "aero bars" kinda cracked me up
(because they're CF) but I bet they feel nice in the hand ;^)  Does that
blue one have wood rims?  If yes, how are they?  I have a custom front disc
fixie that I have idly considered doing wood rims on...

Doug

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner) <
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> This album shows the P rack in several configurations. I've also hung
> Berthoud mini panniers and Acorn tool rolls on the pannier rails, which it
> also handled with aplomb.
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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Doug Van Cleve]

Yes, I had to send out my fork and front fender when I had my custom SS
porteur rack made years ago.  And if you anticipate changing bikes, the P
can adapt to the new one as well.  And if you find a porteur rack isn't for
you, a P will retain more of its value than a custom rack, although a
custom for a relatively common bike would probably also be pretty easy to
sell...

Doug

P.S.  Not that it matters in this instance, but the CETMA Half Rack is also
pannier compatible...

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:37 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> I considered going custom, pricepoint would've been similar for a porteur
> rack with rails for panniers. The downside would be I'd need to send the
> builder my fork, then I'd be out my daily rider for a while. The P rack's
> ability to fit other bikes is a plus for me. If I ever get an itch to set
> up my Clem differently, the rack will easily fit a couple other bikes I
> have. If I'd gone custom, the rack most likely wouldn't fit another bike.
> The goal was to have a porteur rack platform with front panniers. Price
> wise, Nitto 32f & Hub Area Rack would be more expensive and I wouldn't have
> the large platform.
> David
> Chicago
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 12:41:18 PM UTC-6, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>
>> Late to the party, but I will share a couple thoughts.  By all accounts
>> the P rack is nice, but it is also as expensive as a custom porteur rack
>> and the more adaptable a rack is, generally the more flexible and heavier
>> it will be.  Depending on your goal and price point, there are a couple
>> CETMA racks that are similar function and cheaper, if more crude (
>> http://cetmacargo.com/pages/cetma-racks-info
>> ),
>> and Wald has a giant rack-sket now (
>> http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/front-baskets/257-ewalde28099s-multi-fit-front-rack/)
>> that is way cheaper than anything similar.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:03 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>
>>> I just needed one solid endorsement. Sent in my payment just now. For
>>> those interested, current queue time is 6-8 weeks.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:07 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:

 I have a P rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a
 large Wald basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small Berthoud
 panniers on it (paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with
 tent, sleeping bag and pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in all
 configurations. Pics of various iterations are on my Flickr stream.

 You didn't ask this question specifically, but I'll answer it anyway:
 the P rack is beautifully made and well thought out. It has light mounts,
 and provides for internal routing of wiring. Very solid and flexible
 mounting system. I love it.



 On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:17 AM, David Banzer  wrote:

 I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my
 Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had
 pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to
 go back on another back.
 What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light,
 bulky items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order
 easily.
 I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd
 need to add a basket on top.
 Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious
 about folks using that rack with front panniers.
 David
 Chicago


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Re: [RBW] P Porteur rack

[Jeff Lesperance]

Crank is White Industries
Rear hub is Rohloff
Tool rolls are Acorn

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> That is a very intriguing bike! -- very military looking, in a way, but in
> a *good* way. Did you have the parts custom painted black?
>
> And what is the single ring crank? For that matter, what is the rear multi
> gear hub -- Alfine? How do you find it off road?
>
> Lastly, I like the look of the two tool rolls or cylindrical bags on the
> front rack -- what are they?
>
> I have to say that I don't like double top tubes, but I'd jump at a
> Bombadil like that if it were offered me. (Wonder if C Matthews could put
> disk tabs on a Bombadil ...)
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)
>  wrote:
>
>> Tom Allingham shared the album Rivendell Bombadil with you from the
>> Flickr app! Check it out:
>> https://flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157624552118742
>>
>> This album shows the P rack in several configurations. I've also hung
>> Berthoud mini panniers and Acorn tool rolls on the pannier rails, which it
>> also handled with aplomb.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Doug Van Cleve]

Probably true, my wording wasn't as precise as it should have been.  A
custom rack that is all welded/brazed will be stronger and lighter than
anything similar that bolts together, assuming similar materials.  I was
just throwing out the CETMA and Wald as non-custom options that don't cost
as much as custom rack...

Doug

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Matthew J  wrote:

> Pass Stow is definitely lighter than the Cetma 5 rail.  Not familiar with
> the other Cetma racks
> ​.
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Re: [RBW] P Porteur rack

[Matthew J]

Crank is White Industries ENO.

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 11:42:58 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> That is a very intriguing bike! -- very military looking, in a way, but in 
> a *good* way. Did you have the parts custom painted black?
>
> And what is the single ring crank? For that matter, what is the rear multi 
> gear hub -- Alfine? How do you find it off road?
>
> Lastly, I like the look of the two tool rolls or cylindrical bags on the 
> front rack -- what are they?
>
> I have to say that I don't like double top tubes, but I'd jump at a 
> Bombadil like that if it were offered me. (Wonder if C Matthews could put 
> disk tabs on a Bombadil ...)
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner) 
>  wrote:
>
>> Tom Allingham shared the album Rivendell Bombadil with you from the 
>> Flickr app! Check it out:
>> https://flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157624552118742
>>
>> This album shows the P rack in several configurations. I've also hung 
>> Berthoud mini panniers and Acorn tool rolls on the pannier rails, which it 
>> also handled with aplomb.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Matthew J]

Pass Stow is definitely lighter than the Cetma 5 rail.  Not familiar with 
the other Cetma racks.  

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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[David Banzer]

I considered going custom, pricepoint would've been similar for a porteur 
rack with rails for panniers. The downside would be I'd need to send the 
builder my fork, then I'd be out my daily rider for a while. The P rack's 
ability to fit other bikes is a plus for me. If I ever get an itch to set 
up my Clem differently, the rack will easily fit a couple other bikes I 
have. If I'd gone custom, the rack most likely wouldn't fit another bike.
The goal was to have a porteur rack platform with front panniers. Price 
wise, Nitto 32f & Hub Area Rack would be more expensive and I wouldn't have 
the large platform.
David
Chicago



On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 12:41:18 PM UTC-6, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
> Late to the party, but I will share a couple thoughts.  By all accounts 
> the P rack is nice, but it is also as expensive as a custom porteur rack 
> and the more adaptable a rack is, generally the more flexible and heavier 
> it will be.  Depending on your goal and price point, there are a couple 
> CETMA racks that are similar function and cheaper, if more crude (
> http://cetmacargo.com/pages/cetma-racks-info 
> ),
>  
> and Wald has a giant rack-sket now (
> http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/front-baskets/257-ewalde28099s-multi-fit-front-rack/)
>  
> that is way cheaper than anything similar.
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:03 AM, David Banzer  > wrote:
>
>> I just needed one solid endorsement. Sent in my payment just now. For 
>> those interested, current queue time is 6-8 weeks.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:07 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a P rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a 
>>> large Wald basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small Berthoud 
>>> panniers on it (paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with 
>>> tent, sleeping bag and pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in all 
>>> configurations. Pics of various iterations are on my Flickr stream. 
>>>
>>> You didn't ask this question specifically, but I'll answer it anyway: 
>>> the P rack is beautifully made and well thought out. It has light mounts, 
>>> and provides for internal routing of wiring. Very solid and flexible 
>>> mounting system. I love it. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:17 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my 
>>> Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had 
>>> pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to 
>>> go back on another back. 
>>> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, 
>>> bulky items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order 
>>> easily.
>>> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need 
>>> to add a basket on top.
>>> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about 
>>> folks using that rack with front panniers.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] FS/FT Tan Saddlesack Large new

[Chad]

$200 shipped OBO

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[RBW] Playing Hooky to enjoy the weather

[islaysteve]

Yes, the weather here is phenomenal today.  So glad that I got to ride!
Steve

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Re: [RBW] FS/FT Tan Saddlesack Large new

[Patrick Moore]

How much is it? I missed the first post.

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[RBW] FS/FT Tan Saddlesack Large new

[Chad]

I'm not necessarily firm on the price, but I believe it's in the ballpark.   
Please feel free to PM me an offer.

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[RBW] Re: FS NIB Paul Racer Centerpulls

[Chad]

I figured these would go fast, but I may have over priced them.  Feel free to 
PM me an offer!

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Legolas (PRICE REDUCED)

[Joe Bunik]

Somebody is going to get a he77 of a deal, one heck of a bike... the
best color, too.

"Almost tempted" but, oh yeah...
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 3/9/16, Leslie  wrote:
> I was going to say, I'm running 40 MSO's on my canti-Rom, would've thought
> a Legolas could handle it too
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:47:24 AM UTC-5, Sean Hipkin wrote:
>>
>> Oops my bad! They are 42's. You can fit a 33 with a fender
>>
>> Thanks for catching that
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:29:36 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> That is a beautiful bike! Sean, what size are the tires in the picture?
>>> They look larger than 33mm.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:18:05 PM UTC-7, Sean Hipkin wrote:

 It has a quill stem and clearance to fit 33mm tires well.

>>>
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Re: [RBW] Anyone tried the new Compass Bon Jon Pass tires?

[Chad]

Great!  And yes, if you don't mind taking a measurement that would be very 
helpful.  Looks like the Dyads are 4mm wider than the Aeroheads, so they should 
be skinnier on my rims.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Legolas (PRICE REDUCED)

[Leslie]

I was going to say, I'm running 40 MSO's on my canti-Rom, would've thought 
a Legolas could handle it too   



On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:47:24 AM UTC-5, Sean Hipkin wrote:
>
> Oops my bad! They are 42's. You can fit a 33 with a fender  
>
> Thanks for catching that
>
> Sean
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:29:36 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> That is a beautiful bike! Sean, what size are the tires in the picture? 
>> They look larger than 33mm.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:18:05 PM UTC-7, Sean Hipkin wrote:
>>>
>>> It has a quill stem and clearance to fit 33mm tires well. 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Doug Van Cleve]

Late to the party, but I will share a couple thoughts.  By all accounts the
P rack is nice, but it is also as expensive as a custom porteur rack and
the more adaptable a rack is, generally the more flexible and heavier it
will be.  Depending on your goal and price point, there are a couple CETMA
racks that are similar function and cheaper, if more crude (
http://cetmacargo.com/pages/cetma-racks-info), and Wald has a giant
rack-sket now (
http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/front-baskets/257-ewalde28099s-multi-fit-front-rack/)
that is way cheaper than anything similar.

Doug


On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:03 AM, David Banzer  wrote:

> I just needed one solid endorsement. Sent in my payment just now. For
> those interested, current queue time is 6-8 weeks.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:07 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
>>
>> I have a P rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a large
>> Wald basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small Berthoud
>> panniers on it (paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with
>> tent, sleeping bag and pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in all
>> configurations. Pics of various iterations are on my Flickr stream.
>>
>> You didn't ask this question specifically, but I'll answer it anyway: the
>> P rack is beautifully made and well thought out. It has light mounts, and
>> provides for internal routing of wiring. Very solid and flexible mounting
>> system. I love it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:17 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>
>> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my
>> Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had
>> pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to
>> go back on another back.
>> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, bulky
>> items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order easily.
>> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need
>> to add a basket on top.
>> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about
>> folks using that rack with front panniers.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Shimano 8-speed bar-ends, new condition

[Joe Bernard]

SOLD.

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[RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Hugh Smitham]

Hey Mark,

By the looks of the pictures you've shared I'd say it looks defective to my 
eye. I have the same saddle and have been riding it since 2013 and the 
leather at the nose has slipped to one side. I don't notice it or feel any 
adverse effect but it definitely looks funny. I'd go back to the retail 
outlet that sold it to you and get it warrantied. It shouldn't do that.

Cheers,

~Hugh

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 7:48:25 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
>
> 
> I've been riding a Brooks B17 Special since I got my Atlantis, which was 
> about 1.5 years ago. I applied proofide when I bought it. Over time I've 
> developed this weird 'snake bite' pattern right above the metal nose piece. 
> I just emailed Brooks and they indicated it was 'in desperate and immediate 
> need of tensioning', which I find odd. The saddle still has the shape it 
> had when new. It's not sagging or a hammock like some very old and worn 
> saddles. I was under the impression tensioning these saddles unnecessarily 
> could lead to premature failure. 1.5 years seems pretty early. Anyone else 
> have this problem? I'm going to follow their advice, but thought it was 
> weird.
>

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Re: [RBW] Anyone tried the new Compass Bon Jon Pass tires?

[René Sterental]

I'm running them on my Homer and love them. Significantly nicer and cushier
than the 32mm Cypress tires I had on before, and much nicer than the
original 35mm Schalbe Marathon Supremes I had originally. I'm running them
on Dyad rims now. If interested, I can measure their actual width when I
get home tonight.

René

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Chad  wrote:

> Or more specifically on a Roadeo.  They should fit, but in my experience a
> true width 35mm tire is a pretty tight in the chainstays on my particular
> Roadeo.  I'd like to give them a shot, but I hate expensive experiments!
> If they are like the other Compass tires I've tried, they should measure
> about 34mm on a skinny 14.4mm internal width Velocity Aerohead rim.  I'm
> not planning to run fenders.
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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky to enjoy the weather

[WETH]

They are both beautiful bikes!
Thanks for sharing the photos.
I am going to contact you off list with a few build questions.
Thanks,
Erl

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 12:52:51 PM UTC-5, Ryan Thompson wrote:
>
> Both are 60cm but the Chev's headtube is much longer. 
>
> Another pic. 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/EWgQmn
>
> Ryan
>
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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky to enjoy the weather

[Ryan Thompson]

Both are 60cm but the Chev's headtube is much longer. 

Another pic. 

https://flic.kr/p/EWgQmn

Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

[Ryan Fleming]

well...me I'm going with the Wi's...but you'll make someone happy with that 
hub...I'm sure. I think PW makes excellent products, my only sticking point 
was that price...rear WI cassette is at least $150 less...:)

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:54:22 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Yes...that is true, they likely will. Ask me how I know... (because I've 
> had to do it three times!!). On the plus side, I bought a Paul Rhub 
> yesterday. It's in the mail. I'm going to rebuild the wheel around that hub 
> instead and put the rebuilt Phil up for sale. I'm sure it'll make someone 
> real happy who lives in a warmer climate. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:52:29 AM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> That's a bit disappointing for such a pricey hub...however, form what 
>> I've heard /experienced from PW, I expect they will restore it to factory 
>> spec with minimal cost to you...except for shipping
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, unfortunately my hub is back to it's chirpy ways. I opened it up 
>>> to replace the lube and it looks like I've got a chipped pawl. Waiting to 
>>> hear back from PW. I think I'll send the hub in, get the pawls/ratchet 
>>> replaced so it's all brand new and factory spec'd and then sell it in good 
>>> conscience. It needs to go to a home further south. Too bad, it's such a 
>>> beautiful hub. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:43:25 PM UTC-6, Bill M. wrote:

 I love my silver WI hubs.  MUSA, light, pretty, smooth, reasonably 
 quiet (not silent, but nothing like a Chris King) and easy to service.  
 I'd 
 only be a little hesitant if heavy mud was a part of your riding, that 
 might make getting to the little setscrews to open the hub for service a 
 little harder.  My bikes stay pretty dry so I've never had a problem.

 Bill

 On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 1:45:49 PM UTC-8, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> yeah...I lied $515 on Riv site. But I like White industries because I 
> also have their ENO SS freewheel on my PX-10 and I love it...got it 
> because 
> the inexpensive SS freewheels  were noisy and felt sloppy and it seems 
> like 
> it's ready to survive the apocalypse. And I like nice hubs, and the WI's 
>  in silver will be pretty I think.  
>


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Re: [RBW] P Porteur rack

[Patrick Moore]

That is a very intriguing bike! -- very military looking, in a way, but in
a *good* way. Did you have the parts custom painted black?

And what is the single ring crank? For that matter, what is the rear multi
gear hub -- Alfine? How do you find it off road?

Lastly, I like the look of the two tool rolls or cylindrical bags on the
front rack -- what are they?

I have to say that I don't like double top tubes, but I'd jump at a
Bombadil like that if it were offered me. (Wonder if C Matthews could put
disk tabs on a Bombadil ...)

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner) <
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> Tom Allingham shared the album Rivendell Bombadil with you from the Flickr
> app! Check it out:
> https://flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157624552118742
>
> This album shows the P rack in several configurations. I've also hung
> Berthoud mini panniers and Acorn tool rolls on the pannier rails, which it
> also handled with aplomb.
>
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Matthew J]

> Same experience. They claimed it was delivered. They were unable to send 
me tracking number, and said they would refund. Didn't answer any follow up 
emails for a month as I never got the refund.
> Ultimately had to go through my bank. Fortunately, I saved all emails and 
documentation and had them on record that they would refund the amount. Was 
about a week and a half of back and forth 
> between my bank and I, but got it cleared.

Yeah. I was an idiot and did not save my e-mails.  Lesson learned big time!

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[RBW] Re: P Porteur rack

[Jack Doran]

Looks like a solid set up, Tom. I chatted a bit with Matt of Pass & Stow at 
this year's NAHBS. Very friendly guy who builds beautiful racks that by all 
accounts earn their keep!

By the way, I have admired on several occasions the SS Bombadil. I'm a big 
fan of 49d cranks and the color combo is terrific!

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[RBW] Re: Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[John Phillips]

Matt, Mr. P, also has a new 3-Rail front rack (about half the width of 
the porteur), and a new back rack in the works. He also said he has found a 
new, more durable powder-coat for the racks. 

I ordered a 3-Rail rack for myself a few days ago.

I've used my P porteur on my Hunq. Very nice, very strong, very useful by 
itself or with a basket, or with panniers.

John

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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Philip Kim]

Same experience. They claimed it was delivered. They were unable to send me 
tracking number, and said they would refund. Didn't answer any follow up 
emails for a month as I never got the refund. Ultimately had to go through 
my bank. Fortunately, I saved all emails and documentation and had them on 
record that they would refund the amount. Was about a week and a half of 
back and forth between my bank and I, but got it cleared.

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 11:08:40 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>
> Got here too late.  Very happy with my Pass Stow.  
>>
>>
> n.b.:  While the Freight Bag Dan mentions above looks nice, my experience 
> with the company is very bad.  I paid for one on line.  Bag never showed. 
>  All my e-mails were for naught.  I guess I could have sued, but being out 
> of state makes pressing a small claims case throwing good money after bad.
>
> The Swift Pelican I ultimately got works well.
>

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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky to enjoy the weather

[WETH]

Is that a 60cm or 55cm Cheviot?

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 11:54:43 AM UTC-5, Ryan Thompson wrote:
>
> The weather was so nice in DC that my wife and I decided to take the day 
> off and ride into the city.  
>
> Picture to prove it.  Our Cheviot and Betty Foy. 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/E7Cis7
>
> Ryan 
>
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[RBW] Anyone tried the new Compass Bon Jon Pass tires?

[Chad]

Or more specifically on a Roadeo.  They should fit, but in my experience a true 
width 35mm tire is a pretty tight in the chainstays on my particular Roadeo.  
I'd like to give them a shot, but I hate expensive experiments!  If they are 
like the other Compass tires I've tried, they should measure about 34mm on a 
skinny 14.4mm internal width Velocity Aerohead rim.  I'm not planning to run 
fenders.

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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky to enjoy the weather

[WETH]

Outstanding decision.  The weather today is lovely!  Enjoy!

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>
> The weather was so nice in DC that my wife and I decided to take the day 
> off and ride into the city.  
>
> Picture to prove it.  Our Cheviot and Betty Foy. 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/E7Cis7
>
> Ryan 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Comments on Compass Crankset on an A. Homer Hilsen?

[Brian Campbell]

I got a set from Electra's website when they were on a sale a couple of 
years back. I checked today and they do not seem to have them for sale any 
longer. I also got a set on ebay. The rings that come standard with the 
cranks were not very useful to me. I re-sold the unused chain rings on 
ebay. IIRC, I paid $75 for a NIB set from Electra and $60 for NIB set on 
ebay..

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 7:41:39 AM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Those are pretty. Where does one buy those?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

[Mark Reimer]

Yes...that is true, they likely will. Ask me how I know... (because I've 
had to do it three times!!). On the plus side, I bought a Paul Rhub 
yesterday. It's in the mail. I'm going to rebuild the wheel around that hub 
instead and put the rebuilt Phil up for sale. I'm sure it'll make someone 
real happy who lives in a warmer climate. 

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:52:29 AM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> That's a bit disappointing for such a pricey hub...however, form what I've 
> heard /experienced from PW, I expect they will restore it to factory spec 
> with minimal cost to you...except for shipping
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Well, unfortunately my hub is back to it's chirpy ways. I opened it up to 
>> replace the lube and it looks like I've got a chipped pawl. Waiting to hear 
>> back from PW. I think I'll send the hub in, get the pawls/ratchet replaced 
>> so it's all brand new and factory spec'd and then sell it in good 
>> conscience. It needs to go to a home further south. Too bad, it's such a 
>> beautiful hub. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:43:25 PM UTC-6, Bill M. wrote:
>>>
>>> I love my silver WI hubs.  MUSA, light, pretty, smooth, reasonably quiet 
>>> (not silent, but nothing like a Chris King) and easy to service.  I'd only 
>>> be a little hesitant if heavy mud was a part of your riding, that might 
>>> make getting to the little setscrews to open the hub for service a little 
>>> harder.  My bikes stay pretty dry so I've never had a problem.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 1:45:49 PM UTC-8, Ryan Fleming wrote:

 yeah...I lied $515 on Riv site. But I like White industries because I 
 also have their ENO SS freewheel on my PX-10 and I love it...got it 
 because 
 the inexpensive SS freewheels  were noisy and felt sloppy and it seems 
 like 
 it's ready to survive the apocalypse. And I like nice hubs, and the WI's 
  in silver will be pretty I think.  

>>>

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[RBW] Playing Hooky to enjoy the weather

[Ryan Thompson]

The weather was so nice in DC that my wife and I decided to take the day off 
and ride into the city.  

Picture to prove it.  Our Cheviot and Betty Foy. 

https://flic.kr/p/E7Cis7

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Re: [RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

[Ryan Fleming]

That's a bit disappointing for such a pricey hub...however, form what I've 
heard /experienced from PW, I expect they will restore it to factory spec 
with minimal cost to you...except for shipping

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Well, unfortunately my hub is back to it's chirpy ways. I opened it up to 
> replace the lube and it looks like I've got a chipped pawl. Waiting to hear 
> back from PW. I think I'll send the hub in, get the pawls/ratchet replaced 
> so it's all brand new and factory spec'd and then sell it in good 
> conscience. It needs to go to a home further south. Too bad, it's such a 
> beautiful hub. 
>
> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:43:25 PM UTC-6, Bill M. wrote:
>>
>> I love my silver WI hubs.  MUSA, light, pretty, smooth, reasonably quiet 
>> (not silent, but nothing like a Chris King) and easy to service.  I'd only 
>> be a little hesitant if heavy mud was a part of your riding, that might 
>> make getting to the little setscrews to open the hub for service a little 
>> harder.  My bikes stay pretty dry so I've never had a problem.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 1:45:49 PM UTC-8, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> yeah...I lied $515 on Riv site. But I like White industries because I 
>>> also have their ENO SS freewheel on my PX-10 and I love it...got it because 
>>> the inexpensive SS freewheels  were noisy and felt sloppy and it seems like 
>>> it's ready to survive the apocalypse. And I like nice hubs, and the WI's 
>>>  in silver will be pretty I think.  
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Mark Reimer]

Nope, not that I know of.

Check out these photos. They are from when I first bought the saddle, one 
year after (bright colour striped photo), and then one year more (present 
day).

You can see it's been a slow progressive thing. First starting out as some 
lighter spots, then turned tan (I thought it was just the dye wearing a bit 
quicker there), then starting to split. To my eye, the profile of the 
saddle never changed. Never sagged. Never got water logged and wasn't 
physically scraped or damaged. 










On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:28:57 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>
> Seeing that last photo
> Ever turn the bike upside down, resting on the bars and saddle?   
> Rub points for storage or vehicle transport?
> Or wear something with a crotch zipper?   
>
> That looks like mechanical wear to me...
> Scott
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Mark Reimer  > wrote:
>
>> One more photo...
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:21:31 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Yikes!
>>>
>>> Nope, never been soaked or anything like that. I'll take your 
>>> recommendation of inspecting the nose piece. This is how my saddle has 
>>> looked since I got it - the nose shape I mean. It was slowly getting 
>>> lighter at that spot, but only very recently did the grain change. That's 
>>> what got me thinking hey this isn't just a wear pattern, this is actually 
>>> damaged. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:18:26 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:

 it really looks like it's about to tear through there - any chance it's 
 been soaked through and ridden wet?  
 I bought my first select last year, and I don't think I'll ever buy 
 anything different.  It's the only Brooks that I've been totally happy 
 with 
 the rate that it's stretching - i.e, negligible.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Scott Henry]

Seeing that last photo
Ever turn the bike upside down, resting on the bars and saddle?
Rub points for storage or vehicle transport?
Or wear something with a crotch zipper?

That looks like mechanical wear to me...
Scott

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:

> One more photo...
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:21:31 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Yikes!
>>
>> Nope, never been soaked or anything like that. I'll take your
>> recommendation of inspecting the nose piece. This is how my saddle has
>> looked since I got it - the nose shape I mean. It was slowly getting
>> lighter at that spot, but only very recently did the grain change. That's
>> what got me thinking hey this isn't just a wear pattern, this is actually
>> damaged.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:18:26 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>
>>> it really looks like it's about to tear through there - any chance it's
>>> been soaked through and ridden wet?
>>> I bought my first select last year, and I don't think I'll ever buy
>>> anything different.  It's the only Brooks that I've been totally happy with
>>> the rate that it's stretching - i.e, negligible.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Mark Reimer]

One more photo...




On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:21:31 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Yikes!
>
> Nope, never been soaked or anything like that. I'll take your 
> recommendation of inspecting the nose piece. This is how my saddle has 
> looked since I got it - the nose shape I mean. It was slowly getting 
> lighter at that spot, but only very recently did the grain change. That's 
> what got me thinking hey this isn't just a wear pattern, this is actually 
> damaged. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:18:26 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> it really looks like it's about to tear through there - any chance it's 
>> been soaked through and ridden wet?  
>> I bought my first select last year, and I don't think I'll ever buy 
>> anything different.  It's the only Brooks that I've been totally happy with 
>> the rate that it's stretching - i.e, negligible.  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[David Banzer]

Thanks for all that replied. My Clem has cantilever brakes (built it up 
from a frameset) so there shouldn't be any interference mounting to center 
hole. Looks like I could use the mounting slots to use a couple struts and 
utilize the top fork mounts. I'll try the rack mount as it is first of 
course.
I'll be making my own bags, panniers and a low profile porteur bag of some 
sort. I'll have time to figure that out. I also added a rear Tubus Vega 
rack, so Clem will be able to haul quite a bit once the front rack arrives.
David
Chicago

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:08:40 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
>
> Got here too late.  Very happy with my Pass Stow.  
>>
>>
> n.b.:  While the Freight Bag Dan mentions above looks nice, my experience 
> with the company is very bad.  I paid for one on line.  Bag never showed. 
>  All my e-mails were for naught.  I guess I could have sued, but being out 
> of state makes pressing a small claims case throwing good money after bad.
>
> The Swift Pelican I ultimately got works well.
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[RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Mark Reimer]

Yikes!

Nope, never been soaked or anything like that. I'll take your 
recommendation of inspecting the nose piece. This is how my saddle has 
looked since I got it - the nose shape I mean. It was slowly getting 
lighter at that spot, but only very recently did the grain change. That's 
what got me thinking hey this isn't just a wear pattern, this is actually 
damaged. 

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:18:26 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> it really looks like it's about to tear through there - any chance it's 
> been soaked through and ridden wet?  
> I bought my first select last year, and I don't think I'll ever buy 
> anything different.  It's the only Brooks that I've been totally happy with 
> the rate that it's stretching - i.e, negligible.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Ron Mc]

it really looks like it's about to tear through there - any chance it's 
been soaked through and ridden wet?  
I bought my first select last year, and I don't think I'll ever buy 
anything different.  It's the only Brooks that I've been totally happy with 
the rate that it's stretching - i.e, negligible.  

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[RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[David Banzer]

The side pic shows it better. Looks worse than the first photo. While it's 
not sagging, there is a shift in the direction of the leather, and that 
area is starting to wear through. The leather at the nose is angling up, 
while after the nose piece, it becomes horizontal. The leather looks worn 
and dried out in that area. Is there wear on the underside?
What I would do is de-tension the saddle completely, move the nose piece 
around where it clamps to the rails. It can get stuck in a position, which 
would start deforming the leather. Give the leather a solid treatment on 
the underside, then on the raw exposed leather on the top. Then re-tension, 
while trying to keep the nose piece as horizontal as possible.
David
Chicago


On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:59:00 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
>
> 
> Yeah, very true. I guess I'm just a bit confused because when you look at 
> it from the side, it doesn't really have much sag at all. Particularly 
> compared to my other brooks and others I've seen. I know the special is a 
> more supple leather, perhaps it's more delicate? 
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:30 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> it does kind of look like the leather is bending around the nose bridge - 
>> it's the exact shape of it
>>
>> 
>> http://www.pedallingabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/IMG_3909.jpg
>>
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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Matthew J]

Got here too late.  Very happy with my Pass Stow.  
>
>
n.b.:  While the Freight Bag Dan mentions above looks nice, my experience 
with the company is very bad.  I paid for one on line.  Bag never showed. 
 All my e-mails were for naught.  I guess I could have sued, but being out 
of state makes pressing a small claims case throwing good money after bad.

The Swift Pelican I ultimately got works well.

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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[David Banzer]

I just needed one solid endorsement. Sent in my payment just now. For those 
interested, current queue time is 6-8 weeks.
David
Chicago

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:07 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
>
> I have a P rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a large 
> Wald basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small Berthoud 
> panniers on it (paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with 
> tent, sleeping bag and pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in all 
> configurations. Pics of various iterations are on my Flickr stream. 
>
> You didn't ask this question specifically, but I'll answer it anyway: the 
> P rack is beautifully made and well thought out. It has light mounts, and 
> provides for internal routing of wiring. Very solid and flexible mounting 
> system. I love it. 
>
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:17 AM, David Banzer  
> wrote:
>
> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my 
> Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had 
> pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to 
> go back on another back. 
> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, bulky 
> items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order easily.
> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need 
> to add a basket on top.
> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about 
> folks using that rack with front panniers.
> David
> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Dan McNamara]

HI David. I have a Pass & Stow on my Cheviot. I have used it with a Freight 
Porteur bag, front panniers, a Wald basket and combos of those. Keeping the 
load low helps with wheel flop. If I fill up the Porteur bag the front gets a 
mind of its own. 

The internal path for dyno wiring keeps things pretty tidy. 

My only issue was clearing the side pull brake up front - you might want to 
check the clearance for the straddle wire on the v-brakes. You could probably 
flip the mounting plate for the fork crown attachment upside down to improve 
the situation but he is happy to work on custom solutions for mounting. 

Let me know is you want more info / pics. 

Dan

- Marin 



> On Mar 9, 2016, at 7:17 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
> 
> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my Clem. 
> While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had pretty good 
> success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to go back on 
> another back. 
> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, bulky 
> items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order easily.
> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need to 
> add a basket on top.
> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about 
> folks using that rack with front panniers.
> David
> Chicago
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[RBW] Re: Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Brad]

You might want to check out the Haulin Colin rack also. The price is 
similar to the Pass & Stow, but it uses the mid-fork braze-ons. I have one 
on my Soma GR and I'm planning on adding a lowrider rack for touring this 
summer.

But the Pass & Stow is pretty slick (I didn't realize it had the internal 
routing for lighting wires) and would give you lots of options carrying 
stuff.

I also use a Nitto 32F with a basket on my Quickbeam and it works really 
well. 

Now that I've finished typing this, I realize that I'm not helping at all. 
Maybe just buy one of each!

Brad
Queens

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:17:33 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my 
> Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had 
> pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to 
> go back on another back. 
> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, bulky 
> items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order easily.
> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need 
> to add a basket on top.
> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about 
> folks using that rack with front panniers.
> David
> Chicago
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[RBW] P Porteur rack

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Tom Allingham shared the album Rivendell Bombadil with you from the Flickr app! 
Check it out:
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This album shows the P rack in several configurations. I've also hung 
Berthoud mini panniers and Acorn tool rolls on the pannier rails, which it also 
handled with aplomb.





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[RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Mark Reimer]

Yeah, very true. I guess I'm just a bit confused because when you look at 
it from the side, it doesn't really have much sag at all. Particularly 
compared to my other brooks and others I've seen. I know the special is a 
more supple leather, perhaps it's more delicate? 

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:30 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> it does kind of look like the leather is bending around the nose bridge - 
> it's the exact shape of it
>
> 
> http://www.pedallingabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/IMG_3909.jpg
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[RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[David Banzer]

No experience with that type of wear, but the worn area looks like it lines 
up with the edge of the nose-piece. Does the leather change shape in this 
area as well? Maybe a side pic would help. I know when I ride in the 
winter, my saddle feels not as comfortable as in warmer temps. 'Brittle' 
isn't an accurate term, but it's the best I can think of. So, maybe weather 
related?
IMO, tensioning a saddle doesn't necessarily wear it out faster if it's 
done only when needed and doesn't tighten the leather back to its original 
hardness. 
Definitely add some leather treatment on the top spots. Check the underside 
for wear. Maybe it's a good time to give the underside a full treatment as 
well.
David
Chicago

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:48:25 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
>
> 
> I've been riding a Brooks B17 Special since I got my Atlantis, which was 
> about 1.5 years ago. I applied proofide when I bought it. Over time I've 
> developed this weird 'snake bite' pattern right above the metal nose piece. 
> I just emailed Brooks and they indicated it was 'in desperate and immediate 
> need of tensioning', which I find odd. The saddle still has the shape it 
> had when new. It's not sagging or a hammock like some very old and worn 
> saddles. I was under the impression tensioning these saddles unnecessarily 
> could lead to premature failure. 1.5 years seems pretty early. Anyone else 
> have this problem? I'm going to follow their advice, but thought it was 
> weird.
>

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Re: [RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

I have a P rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a large Wald 
basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small Berthoud panniers on it 
(paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with tent, sleeping bag and 
pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in all configurations. Pics of 
various iterations are on my Flickr stream.

You didn't ask this question specifically, but I'll answer it anyway: the P 
rack is beautifully made and well thought out. It has light mounts, and 
provides for internal routing of wiring. Very solid and flexible mounting 
system. I love it.



On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:17 AM, David Banzer 
> wrote:

I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my Clem. 
While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had pretty good 
success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to go back on 
another back.
What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, bulky items 
on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order easily.
I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need to add 
a basket on top.
Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about folks 
using that rack with front panniers.
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Ron Mc]

it does kind of look like the leather is bending around the nose bridge - 
it's the exact shape of it


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[RBW] Curious Brooks damage

[Mark Reimer]

I've been riding a Brooks B17 Special since I got my Atlantis, which was 
about 1.5 years ago. I applied proofide when I bought it. Over time I've 
developed this weird 'snake bite' pattern right above the metal nose piece. 
I just emailed Brooks and they indicated it was 'in desperate and immediate 
need of tensioning', which I find odd. The saddle still has the shape it 
had when new. It's not sagging or a hammock like some very old and worn 
saddles. I was under the impression tensioning these saddles unnecessarily 
could lead to premature failure. 1.5 years seems pretty early. Anyone else 
have this problem? I'm going to follow their advice, but thought it was 
weird.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Legolas (PRICE REDUCED)

[Sean Hipkin]

Oops my bad! They are 42's. You can fit a 33 with a fender  

Thanks for catching that

Sean

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:29:36 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> That is a beautiful bike! Sean, what size are the tires in the picture? 
> They look larger than 33mm.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:18:05 PM UTC-7, Sean Hipkin wrote:
>>
>> It has a quill stem and clearance to fit 33mm tires well. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: IQ-X Headlight

[Lungimsam]

I had the cateye reflex auto light and it would not come on as early as i would 
have liked in overcast weather.

The manual version works great though.

Both can be seen from the side, too.

I hopefully will get around to wiring up my spanninga rear light one day. That 
way it will just run all the time when riding. Lately ive been running my 
edeluxe ii with switch on all the time. Fun to hop on and ride and never have 
to switch anyhing  on and just know they are always on.

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Re: [RBW] Re: IQ-X Headlight

[Anton Tutter]

I have several B Senso-enabled headlights and they never switch off with 
oncoming traffic. The sensors are in the rear and sense ambient light. The 
light from car headlights is probably too focused to register with the 
sensor.

Anton

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 10:58:11 AM UTC-5, William! wrote:
>
> I’ve been using another B Senso light (the Eyc T) for a few years and 
> have never had an issue with it switching off when it shouldn’t. The 
> daytime brightness seems to be quite reasonable, and most of the beam at 
> night is focused where it should be (on the path in front of me). I’ve 
> never had drivers or other riders complain about the light’s brightness.
>
> The one complaint I have had is when the bike is at *very *low speeds 
> (often when I am walking with the bike), the light blinks. It’s not 
> particularly garish compared to many blinky lights, but the fact that it is 
> always on is annoying and has led to some awkward situations. I’d prefer if 
> it didn’t blink at low speeds, or at least not during the daytime.
>
> Best,
> William
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 6:38 AM Eric Norris  
> wrote:
>
>> Haven't tried it, but I think it would take more than an oncoming car to 
>> make it switch. The manual says the light waits a few seconds before 
>> switching when conditions change, to keep the output from fluctuating too 
>> much.
>>
>> --Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com 
>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 6:07 AM, David Banzer  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious about the senso-only mode. Does it work well? My concern 
>> would be oncoming traffic lights making the IQ think that there's 
>> sufficient light and switch to daytime lights. Maybe I'm overthinking this 
>> one.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 8:33:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>
>>> My report thus far on the IQ-X headlight:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2016/03/busch-and-muller-iq-x-headlight.html
>>>  
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
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>>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
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[RBW] Re: Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[Zed Martinez]

Not a direct answer to the Pass & Stow specifically, but I use the Surly 
Nice Rack on the front of my Clem with a couple front panniers and an Acorn 
rando bag resting on top. I'm trying like one of Grant's bikes and just 
living with all those on the bike. It seems to handle weight in the 
panniers fine. I haven't had an excuse to haul a folding end table on it 
yet like I did on the predecessor, so, I don't know how it handles weird 
weight higher on the platform, but it did fine on a beer run with a six 
pack in each pannier last night, at any rate. So long as I keep the weight 
split evenly it seems to ride fine.

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:17:33 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my 
> Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had 
> pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to 
> go back on another back. 
> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, bulky 
> items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order easily.
> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need 
> to add a basket on top.
> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about 
> folks using that rack with front panniers.
> David
> Chicago
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto Big Back Rack - Large

[René Sterental]

I'm selling mine. Can you contact me off list?

René

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016, Mike Goldsworthy  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I'm looking to buy a used Nitto Big Back Rack - large. If anyone has one
> they're considering getting rid of, hit me up.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
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[RBW] Pass & Stow Porteur Rack Experiences.

[David Banzer]

I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my Clem. 
While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had pretty 
good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to go back 
on another back. 
What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, bulky 
items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order easily.
I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need to 
add a basket on top.
Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about 
folks using that rack with front panniers.
David
Chicago

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[RBW] WTB- WTT Big Apples

[clyde canter]

Hello ,

Wanted:  (2) Schwalbe Big Apples in the 26 x 2.21 ish range...Not sure what
they are called but I want the lighter...NON belted ones...color,
reflectiveness unimportant ...lightly used is fine

I have to trade/ barter:

(2) Schwlabe  Road Cruiser (HS377) 700 x 40c   Brown Reflex  wire
bead...lightly worn

(2) Schwalbe Marathons  26 x 1.75...these are older versions, they are wire
bead with
  dyno strips and are reflective...lightly worn

Let's make a deal.


Clyde Canter

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[RBW] Re: Comments on Compass Crankset on an A. Homer Hilsen?

[Ron Mc]

Another good-looking T/A alternative are the Sun XCD cranks, which also 
have a slight flare for clearing wide chain stays.  

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[RBW] Re: Comments on Compass Crankset on an A. Homer Hilsen?

[Belopsky]

Those are pretty. Where does one buy those?

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[RBW] Re: Comments on Compass Crankset on an A. Homer Hilsen?

[Brian Campbell]

This does not answer the question directly but I use a less expensive 
alternative: Electra Ticino (made by FSA) w/ Velo Orange 46/30 rings. On my 
AHH, I am using a 110mm bottom bracket. I don't know how the Compass cranks 
are shaped but the Electra allow you to use almost any front derailleur, as 
the arms are shaped and do not interfere with the front derailleur. 

I did the PA Rando 200k back in October (lots of hills) and the combo with 
a 10 speed rear (11-32), Dura Ace downtube shifters and everything was fine.

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[RBW] Comments on Compass Crankset on an A. Homer Hilsen?

[Iron Rider]

Anyone using a Compass crankset on a Homer Hilsen? If so, what bottom 
bracket/spindle are you using? And what are your thoughts on the crankset 
itself. Feel free to email me if you'd rather comment privately. Thanks!

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