Here's one, and forgive my continued warning. I promise you this is not
good old fashioned reverse psychology.
This style emerged because it's simple and it works. It got extinguished in
the late '80s or early '90s NOT because after a hundred or more years some
smart modern mechanic found a flaw t
nt, they seem indestructible, even after riding through
> streams and watching muddy water flow out upon emerging.
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Grant Petersen
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The final adjustment takes some skill and time and experience and feel,
>
"Rocks in the top of the engine" is a phantastik fraze---I just wish it
were more versatile so I could plug it in here and there during the day.
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> Doesn't it all depend on how many rocks are in the top of the engine? I'm
> top heavy just bec
It's one chain, just more links. Most chains come 114 or 116 links. The
60cm Cheviot has a 56cm chainstay (our longest) and typically uses 123
links...so, to be clear, eradicate all heads of visions of double chain
shenannigans. It is true that when you buy a boxe chains you have to buy
two of them
I can see how (I mean, clearly see how) it could sound like we're thru with
the AHH, but it's not so. Only the Japanese ones. Toyo has never made them
bigger than 58, anyway..and Wford has never made them smaller than 57. But
Wford has made many and will continue to (forseeble future, etc), and it
Related to "self-conscious" comments
Last weekend I was up on the mountain at the halfway up hangout spot where
most people (me too) usually sit and talk. I had my 58650B AHH with bags
front and rear, and my friend had his Bleriot. There were four or five other
riders there on normal bikes, and on
When I was growing up, WC was a poorish town you got to via a dirt road at
the bottom of Snake Hill. WC is a mix of old and new. It has one fancy
part--that downtown area.
There is a Tiffany, See's Candy, Nordstrom, Victoria's Secret---but they're
downtown, where rents are high. We're in an uninsu
brustow says:
"Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
Is Grant directly
poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned?"
Grant (that's me) says:
Nope, there's no deepness to the name, and that wouldn't be a direct,
anyway.
Not digging the name---I get that. It's not suave or cl
I think the 80 For Haiti should be a good ride, and ALL the loot goes to
Haiti. Anybody on this list who signs up: $20 credit on your account.
On top of that, I'll get the names of the Forum members who signed up, put
them on actual Post-Its, put those Post-Its in an actual hat, and draw out
four
Sorry--- I read a reference to it--from Aaron-- and I thought there'd been
some discussion I'd missed, and everybody knew. Here's the link:
http://www.adventurecorps.com/80/index.html
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Seems to be a problem because it has a name/acronym. All it means is that at
speeds less than about 6mph, if you turn the wheel enough and time it just
wrong with your pedal stroke, your shoe hits the fender or tire. It's one of
those things that sounds worse than it is. It cannot happen at faster
We've always used only our own lugs. There aren't any "St. James" lugs.
There was a Jill St. John, and there is a Henry James and there are Henry
James lugs, but there was never any collaboration there, and the 2000 model
custom has Riv lugs. May be older ones, but still Riv lugs. No biggie, but
n
It should be up today or tomorrow. The thing about geospreadsheets is...they
tend to mesmerize and confuse people, because they always leave out numbers
that are affected by other numbers, and if you read the included numbers and
compare them to geospreads of other bikes with the same numbers, but
Midpoint of headtube to midpoint of seat tube. Sorta mixte-like. (Jim
Thrill/Hiawatha said...)
Keven loves the 62 Betty/Yves, and rides it a lot, and rode it with weight,
and remarked how well it carried it, not what you'd expect from a mixte. But
the design like that works, and that lead to the d
It's a Sackville Medium, which by any standards is huge. He carries a tripod
and clothes & other things in it. He shoots with a Flip, although we
recently got something fancier for other things---like the headbadge shot,
with that focus-control--Nikon D5000? A DSLR, anyway, small and relatively
che
There's more to it than stem length. Width, height, tire weight and contact
patch (affected by volume and pressure). With all those independent
variables, it can drive you nuts or lead you on a search for a formula that
will confuse people by the millions, but it's not necessary. You "learn" a
bike
The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of
which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and
repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made
rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show.
It
It prevents a load from the center wire of a canti- or centerpull brake,
mainly. Also helps locate the load on the platform, so it doesn't scoot
into or above the brake itself, so you can work on the brake on a loaded
bike. Often used as a lash-point, as someone pointed out. You can cut it off
(wo
> It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells
> frames are not designed for drop bars. With the long top tubes you
> need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach.
UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso.
The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about
Roadeo excepted, isn't the general philosophy behind Riv design to
stay away from impractical race standards?
As a matter of fact, the o-o-o-original idea with the 1.5-deg upslope, the
15mm top head lug extension, the longer steer tube, the longquill stems---
was to allow you to ride a smaller fr
Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius!
I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though.
Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike?
LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike.
There's only so much time, only so many lugs.
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texan sean says:
I am concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under
my feet.
2which I say: that's the *goal*! surface are maximillization.
Bullseye used to make pedals with a 4x5 or 4x6 piece of marinegrade plywood
mounted onto a pedal body. most comfortable pedal ever, b
It's easy for any rimmer to make 'em. Easier to make rims than tires, since
no new molds or bladders (tools) needed. It's just a matter of where you cut
the extrustion before rolling it. The roller tool that determines the radius
--- is dialinable. We've rec'd sample rims in odder-than-650B diamet
Steve P sez:
I would imagine the tubing is different - or, at least, a different
brand. I doubt the geometry would be changed.
He is right!
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^
> > should be able to get what you want.
> Nope. Rivendell adamantly refuses to build any of the sizes that have
> been discontinued.
...well, at least the size I asked about. Blindrobert, did Rivendell
say they would build you a 64?
Grant suggests: Some things are be
Saddle stuffing works great, preemptively or resurrectingly. I've healed
eight or nine saddles this way, and ... it's in the current RR, or the one
before. On a horse, you have the horse & blanket under the leather, so no
sag/stretch possible. On a bike saddle, nothing but air. Fill the air with
st
Manny said:
Rivendell's shoe contraption is quite smart! I laughed about it at
first but I can see myself using these on hikes or muddy bike rides.
I'm curious about the heel straping, and how it's connected.
THe first sample laces like a shoe. We'll go with something faster-easier-,
maybe one ey
Patrick in VT says...*
hose tires are pretty tacky when first
mounted - wouldn't be surprised if he picked up a bit glass and it*
In the '80s I and everybody I knew rode Avocet tires (slicks), and we all
agreed they looked like Almond Roca after the first many minutes. You had to
ride them in dir
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:21 -0700, Tony wrote:
> the cap. The bill has Atlantis with a superscript 2 at the end
> (squared).
> Please explain to this Hillborne owner.
Steve P said:
The first Atlantis was a Bridgestone touring bike.
*Steve wins big points for getting this right. Impressive!
G*
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Aero bars AND a suspension fork!
Signs of the pending apocalypse?
Cheers,
David
I scoot one-handed, and I tried resting on the grip, but I slip forward.
Mark rigged the rest for me; works great. Shocks came widda scoot. I'm
getting into this scooter thing. Don't be shocked if, a year and a hal
John Blish says:
Grant has mentioned several times that he found his KickBike convenient for
exercise and even occasional transportation during his time off the bike.
He mentioned yesterday that he is *now* "pitching that lifestyle." He ha
Grant Says: If I wrote "now" it was a mistake. Shouldn've
Well, now I know how Louis Vuitton feels (I've always been curious). I've
been know to have brain farts (and grain farts), but I'm thinking what lugs
are those? They aren't ours. We did use Henry James crowns for about 20
frames for a while there, till we got our own. The dropouts are raised in
bac
Nobody will know this, so I'll just tell you (to prevent speculation!).
The rule in this family is: The children don't spend money on the parents
for b'day, Christmas, etc. They have to make something. Both my daughters
like to draw and paint, and I see them in every stroke of their work, so the
d
ast Austin to Emmal Long Park (approx 60 miles round
> trip). No Rivendell's but two Grant Petersen Bridgestones.
>
> >
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Sch Mara Supreme 35s. Coly How! or the 40s. The 41s can measure anywhere btw
36 and 40, dpndn on the rim. On Keven's Open Pros: 36. On Synergy rims.
about 40. Wider rims make wider tires. More so than I used to believe even
200 days ago.
G
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
You can measure the chainstay width, inside-2-inside, at the point where the
tire passes, then figure howevermany millimeters you're comfortable with for
clearance (four is a fine minimum-and the Japanese standard, Times 2 that's
8.). Then do the negative arithmetic, and blammo--there's your max ti
Hey, for all of y'all know, I ride eleven speeds in my private time, and one
of those "carbon truss" bikes, and am a secret test rider for Shimano's 2012
parts, and I dress in the full kit so nobody will recognize me.
Grant "Don't 'grant-centric' me" Petersen
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Joe B
RIght, usually it's the left foot on a twelve-o'clock pedal, the bike
leaning right with the top tube on the right hamstring, and the right foot
on the ground.
Howowowowowowever...the CPSC requires that the bike clear the crotch by an
inch. "Crotch" to a modern male who wears his belt nine inches
And actual reach to the bars is probably, I would say, more important than
the physical measurement of the top tube itself. In RR41 or 40 (it's been a
while), there was a story 'bout this. In a nutshell: All else about he frame
being the same--same seattube angle, same head tube angle, same top tub
I agree with all...but happen to have micro-knowledge about some
particulars. The Grip King pedal has the best clearance of any pedal
we sell...was designed to win and does. Much of this is obvioius, but
here it is all at once: Pedal clearance is only a function of
how far the pedal sticks out (rel
We here are all fans of Surly and regularly (if not constantly) refer
people to them, when ours are clearly out of range. I've often said, at
least to myself, that a high compliment to any bike, even tho it doesn't
sound like a compliment, is that it's Not Dumb. Surlys are not dumb. That
is huge i
About the influence thing, with practical bikes, and so on: I'm not dumb
enough or falsely humble enough to deny that Rivendell has had influence,
but to put it on ME gives me too much credit. As some have pointed out,
lots of what we're doing with bikes has been done before in some
form--bigg
Many of the issues brought up here are addressed (I address them) in the
book. Not to say that my addressing them carves them into even limestone,
but the book can speak for itself and me, and I'd hate for somebody to hear
"ketosis" or "diabetes" and assume that I'm wacky on either of those.
I t
Humans are omnivores, of course. I hesitate to say THIS, but if we evolved
from apes, and it's understandable that we'd have some ape-like
features--like a sideways-moving jaw, and eyeballs in front.
Right now and for the last 200,000 years, our digestive system looks more
like a dog's than an
I started the blog mostly because it's an author's respo to assist the pub
in selling the books. It's not like--now I wrote it, now you sell it.
Not wanting to rewrite every entry, I starting doing stuff that i don't do
in the book--like photo food. It's easy, I do it at home as I'm making the
stu
Tiny thing, petty I'm sure, but "Waterford Atlantis" sort of hands off our
hand in the bike to Waterford. We're happy and proud that Wford builds some
models for us, but the things that make an Atlantis an Atlantis all came
from us...so "USA-built Atlantis" goes down much easier here.
On Frida
The long mystery bikes (we sold ten) of a few years ago got me/us going on
LW (long wheelbase) bikes. The ride is really good, but they don't fit in
boxes well, for shipping. The dreamy ride of those bikes lead to longer
chainstays on other bikes, and ultimately (well, maybe not ULTIMATELY) we
I've got no Cranial connections, but I know who does.
I like the new "9/8" designation(<---we can pronounce it "design-ation"),
but we're sticking with the old standard 8/8, for the record.
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Joe Bunik wrote:
> You're not grip-sniffing alone on this one, Sam
Super neat and thanks, Michael. I love this stuff...as you've supposed.
I'll finish reading it tonite. Thank you, really, for sending..
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> A while back the Riv Reader published an article challenging the benefits
> of ultra endurance events.
We want to get Clems complete, but cash flow never allows that these days,
so when they come (late '15?) they'll be available as framesets. There's
clearance for 55 with fender. Whenever we hit out target clearance, there's
always complaints (from us here, too!) that "well, too bad it won't fit
so far, 59...but that'll fit to pbh 95
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Kieran J wrote:
> Amazing idea!
>
> Grant, what's the biggest size Clems'll come in? Apologies if this has
> already been answered elsewhere.
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Thursday, November
http://www.whitesboots.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=444
Whites Smokejumper Boots have high heels, and I always thought they looked
like old granny gunshooter boots..and a few years ago I was at a trade
show, stopped at the Whites booth, and I asked the guy there hey, why th
I've changed my thoughts on handlebar height and toe clips...but I think
I'm on more solid ground now. I see that MB-3 in the spread and ... it's
begging for Bosco bars, and to be stripped of its toe clips! That was from
24 years ago, I think. I'll stand by the rest of it! G
On Sunday, February
Joe, you have a lot of equity to burn thru before murder comes to mine, so
no worries there. There are lots of bikes with disc brakes, and I know I
run the small considerable risk of being accused of being stubborn or
hurting Rivendell or being a dinosaur and all that, but I just love the
high visi
"...before murder comes to MIND..."
Let's not start a thread with "murder" in it, OK?
On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 9:52 PM, Grant Petersen wrote:
> Joe, you have a lot of equity to burn thru before murder comes to mine, so
> no worries there. There are lots of bikes
Nobody knows nuttin' yet. Well, not exactly nobody, and "nuttin'" is an
exagerration, but it's fun to say, and it's my birth-month, so I get to.
This is true: We (here at RBW) are having a fun time with it, and are
taking every detail seriously.
On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Drw wrote:
> So
Theoretically easier to adjust with the tools you're likely to have with
you on a trail, but a few weeks ago I took a poll at work, and it revealed
that in more than 100 years of cumulative riding on dirt and roads, nobody
has ever had a threaded headset come loose. It can happen, but probably
won'
OK...I know there's no killing a thread, at least not without
repercussions, but I'm not going to fee it anymore. At its best, developing
a bike is fun, and this bike is pure that for me and the others here. It
will NOT meet expectations, it'll barely miss the mark for most people
reading this, the
Bless you, Jeremy! Where were you 20 minutes ago?
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Jeremy Till wrote:
> I think, respectfully, that maybe we should give this thread a rest, at
> least until further details of the bike are confirmed, as we're going in
> circles. It was pointed out 6 pages ago t
We're thinking of stuff about price. To be CLEM-like would mean all TIG,
and that's--obviously--easier and still strong and all, but the first run
will be mostly lug + fillet. We're considering some all- tig (minus seat
lug) and may go half like that. Not sure..
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:10 AM, D
The Troll is a super nice bike---a FINE alternative to the now fully
explained one we're going to have, Bob. (And has discs!)
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Bob K. wrote:
> The more I hear about this bike, the more I like it. I almost wish I
> didn’t love my Surly Troll so much, as this checks
The "secret" to properly snugging a threaded headset is to use two wrenches
(in the case of a non-Rinko style). The spanner kind goes on the cup flats,
and it's really helpful to use the Stein-type (now also made by Park)
that's chunky and grabs around about 230 degrees and cannot slip. You
lightly
A century of threaded headsets and 25 years of threadless suggest they both
work fine. The rest is preference and defense.
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Virgil Staphbeard
wrote:
> Also, the addition of a decaleur or cable hanger in the stack adds to the
> loosening potential ,provided they do
aside from whatever real or imagined benefits there are to riders, the
benefits of carbon and threadless to manufacturers are real and as concrete
as concrete. Threadless forks eliminate a HUGE ongoing hassle and storage
problem of stocking replacements for different sized frames. The fact that
it
You can still get Hite-Rites to fit 26.6 to 27.2 frames. $45 or so, Tommy
Breeze (Joe's son) sells them--I think on eBay.
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why wouldn't a dropper post work on a mixte frame?
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
> O
it may be. you've used a HiteRite?
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Belopsky wrote:
> a good dropper is better.
>
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SML 27.5
XL 29
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Steven Sweedler
wrote:
>
> Has the wheel size been announced, 650 B for smaller frames and 700C for
> larger, or is 26” (559) a possiblilty? Steve
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 7:28 PM Grant Petersen
> wrote:
>
>>
It honestly wasn't intended as the kind of thing that requires thick skin,
and I'll be careful not to say things that do. Sorry!
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:40 PM, masmojo wrote:
> Grant, Mr. Masmojo has very thick skin; pick all you want.
> I agree with everything you said there pretty much.
> I
The YouTube style of riding has upped the requirements for bike and fork
testing, but the tests still aren't super reflective of how and why things
break in real life. ALL carbon frames and forks pass the tests, and yet
they continue to fail, because of the brittle nature of it and the
unpredictabi
It's squished, tho.
tire compat: it isn't designed for 3.0. just 2.8. In fact, most sub tires
are 2.6. I am pretty sure there are no trails in this part of NorCal that
require or are more fun or safer on a tire bigger than 2.3, at least at the
speeds I ride. the bike seems to fit a 3.0 fine, but t
Not film. Pal Sean's iPhone, about 22 hours ago. He rode the 51, I was on
the 56.
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Ryan Merrill wrote:
> Were those pictures shot on film?
>
> Nice thumbie shot!
>
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Damn. Well, maybe we can sneak it in the new catalog. No attributions, tho.
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
> If you are selling both the original and the new version Atlantis you
> could call the new version the “Longboard Atlantis”. Very Riv and very
> California.
>
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>
Some of these questions or just unclear-confusing-redundancy things, like
why both the JoeAppa and Atla will be made clearer in the catalog.
On another note, this time about the Rivendell - David Lance Goines poster:
DLG used the same printing device (press?) for almost 50 years, and it was
about
If at first you don't succeed, etc. It's an ongoing challenge, no doubt,
but always a worthy one.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:43 PM, John Hawrylak
wrote:
> Grant's theme of "duplication" was stated about 5 to 6 years ago, but I
> did not notice a large reduction.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
It's not up to me, but I wish the subject titles like "Frustrated by Riv's
lack of inventory" wouldn't stay alive for weeks. It may have made sense in
the original post, and it's no up to me to change the rules of posting or
threading or whatever, but tour inventory level right now is at the past
5
About the Banana Sack, just an opinion :
1. Sway is often an unnecessary concern. There is a difference between an
"on the bike" problem and an "in the head theoretical" one.
2. Security is good. The least secure mount, ironically, is the original
intended mount, on the saddle loops. Then the Bs
at this point, two ways to get a catalog
1. order something
2. call and ask
in a week or so we'll have it online, for those who prefer a screen!
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> I haven't, but then I told Riv to keep my donation, so perhaps they took
> me off the list.
It's hard core low carb and has stuff about ketosis.
Probably not surprisingly and sometimes maybe maddeningly, in its
hardcoreness it gives tough scores to some of our favorite foods than, in a
softer core world, are considered healthy. But what is tolerable before
your pancreas is shot is unhealt
Now it makes more sense. I SEE our mechs chasing der hanger threads, maybe
just figured if they saw a particularly "clean" one they might skip it.
I'll find out the deal anyway, but might not "report my findings" here on
le Forume.. just because...it'll be taken care of or already is, whatever.
On
Originally I had "testicals," (in that use it was referring to men), then
that became the proper spelling, "testicles," then Kim (the woman on the
cover of the '94 Bstone cat), was helping with proofing and judgment calls,
said to go with yoo-hoo, which I'd never heard of. In my circle, we call
'em
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 5:20 AM, ctifusion wrote:
> Thanks for the info Grant. I can understand Nitto's position. I have a lot
> of miles on those bars in road and "gravel" conditions and I don't get any
> sense that they are weak or dangerous.
>
> Also, not sure what the deleted message said but
I want a Noodle-moose too, Chris!
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Christopher Murray <
chrispmurra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I will pre-order any noodle-moose bars!!!
>
> Chris
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It'll be a first look at our three-top tube bike!
On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG
> Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again
> Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again
> Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLA
A trifecta, or a triple threat to our continued existence? We'll see..
we're working on a spider web frame.
On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:12 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> That will make folks do a double-take.
>
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:1
I second the let's not let this one become one of those ones (and of
course, Just Riding)...
I don't want "Grant's Blahg" to become the thing that people read to get
riled, but I also don't want to have to edit myself too much. I'm a lefty,
and that won't always come across strongly because most of
There's a new BLAHG up, and it'll be up thru the weekend. On the surface it
may seem to be adding fuel to the fire, etc., but if you wade thru the
whole thing (as I have!), I don't think you'll find too much controversy in
it.
Grant "Possibly Incredibly Naive" Petersen
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:14
If I get the last spot on the committe and can't make it to a meeting,
Phillip gets my spot. If Phillip and I are running against one another, I'd
vote for Phillip.
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’d like to be on the monetary committee.
We are united, independent, and dependent. I love Patrick, who isn't gay,
as much as I love my brother-in-law who is.
I feel bad for my role in the bickering, but not for saying what I said.
I'm sad that good people are growling over it, but happy to see so many
nice comments, too. Everybody's got
Note to non-deacon Patrick: Your size is a mixte!
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> *That's *what I had in mind. Thanks.
>
> Non-diaconal-Patrick, who damn' well won't buy a 59, in ABQ, NM.
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Grant Petersen
&g
No, I meant 610mm. World records.
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Peter Adler wrote:
> 610mm = 61cm = 24" and change. You mean 61mm, yes?
>
> Peter Adler
> who bought a set of those @100mm cruiser Tektro DP sidepulls at a
> warehouse sale a few years back, decided that the mechanical advantage
No, it's a prototype, something we'll be trying out and maybe do to a
biggish roadish frame next year. I'm surprised nobody's said anything. It's
fne, though!
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Ray Varella wrote:
> No one has mentioned the diversion attachment,
> Grant, is that the illegitimate lov
Back from my short playdate...
Going out again soon, but thanks for the correction on the PBH which
should've been SH, or the other way around. It's fixed now.
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> Thanks for this. What is the sta -- does anyone know? It looks like a 57
> wo
The Silver2 shifters--many of you know this--are anatomically nearly
identical to the SunTours from '82. We tried to improve where we could, but
there wasn't much opportunity. The clamp is more versatile, fits more
diameters. The rotation method no longer used the holes, but goes with
florets on th
I'm with Ryan. We've ridden a lot of bikes, lots of variations, and we live
surrounded by roads and trails no more than 15 minutes by bike away. It's
not DP-Rocky Mtn style, but as BL and JW and other locals will attest, it's
hard to beat. More important, we ride them. I admittedly don't have the
c
It's like Mark said--you can wheelie, but the bike makes you have to try,
which is good. I regularly ride my Chev and 59 Clem on the skinniest,
twistiest, slightly illegal singletrack with a 180 turn and can still make
it. The whole idea is to improve the ride, to discourage endos and
wheelies, and
The point which I flopped in making is that a bike that "performs" at the
fringes can certainly handle the middle, but not necessarily the other way
around. I should have been more clear.
Grant
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:01 PM, John Phillips wrote:
> Grant wrote,
>
> "We've ridden a lot of bikes
th these parting words: As good as the earlier Atlantis bikes are, the
newie tops 'em, but the difference is subtle, and the bar and wheel choice
have far more influence on a bike's spiritedness than the chainstays.
OK!
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Grant Petersen wrote:
> The p
NITTO sez the wider bars mean the stem wll brake first, and they'd rather
the bar breaks first. We asked. We lead the way w ith 46cm, then 48cm. We
asked for (and got a prototype of) a 51cm, but that turned out to be a
stem-braker. It's cool that other makers do it, but we're sticking with
ultra-co
I hope every time I say something ambiguous it doesn't make somebody shove
his or her head up there. I'd feel even worse. I'm not NITTO spokesman,
just a customer, but I've been there 20 times or more (usually when I
worked at Bstone) and I know the deal there, and before NITTO'd come up
with a lis
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