Re: [RE-wrenches] Large transformer losses

2024-04-26 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Do you know the transformer impedance? On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:54 PM Jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi all. > > Anyone know what the tare loss and efficiency is of a 75 kw transformer? > And it would be run mostly at 1-10kw max. > > This one specifically. >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large transformer losses

2024-04-26 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi Jay I have gotten this type of information directly from Hammond, I would think from transformer to House line loss should be considered. From my Experiance, people go to 400 amp services mostly for circuit count. I have measured a few transformers in past but I don't know where data is now.

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120 Vac and 12Vdc mixed distribution system

2024-04-26 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I agree with John also. one of the better-performing off-grid houses I worked on used a 48 to 12-V Samlex converter. The 12-volt thick-walled refrigerator was about 4 amps at 12 volts. The lights, radio, and small TV drew very few amps each/ I also used an Outback 3648 inverter, which the

Re: [RE-wrenches] speaking of batteries

2024-04-23 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
If the batteries have a 10-year life, I don't think it would make much difference. LA batteries show an increase in internal resistance after a few recharges. Typically, the BMS in a Li battery will ensure at top balance all cells balance, If the batteries are being properly recharged. On Tue,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Clamping CTs Around Live Conductors - White Paper References and/or Anecdotal Information Requested

2024-03-08 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I have done it many times. YES terminate the secondary first. As an older CT is a step up the voltage transformer and can generate thousands of volts. Many of new type Cats are low voltage output and are safe to work with. On Fri, Mar 8, 2024, 10:46 AM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches <

Re: [RE-wrenches] EG4 Equipment

2024-02-17 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I used to be Lead AGM for Off-grid; I used the Pure Lead Thin Plate for an install 4 years ago from AltE, and it is still working fine. I believe the LiFe is the battery for off-grid and the trick is to find the correct BMS, On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 11:43 AM Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches <

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress

2024-02-15 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Is it similar to my problem with my Simplify batteries? Over time, the BMS did not allow all cells to charge the same. To correct this, I had to charge each battery separately, and after this, they stayed equivalent for more years. On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 7:50 AM Jay via RE-wrenches <

Re: [RE-wrenches] No payment for Sunpower warranty service vendor credits?

2024-02-13 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Advice, please; I was about to purchase a SunPower inverter. Have other people been having problems? I cannot reach their support line with my questions. As many of you know, I am a small contractor. I have noticed a reluctance of solar equipment suppliers, both Outback and Sol-Ark, who have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium batteries

2024-02-08 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
About 4 years ago I wrote about my failure of Simplify in service 3 years. after much delay, I took each unit to shop and charged each one on bench power supply, all returned to full function and are still working today off grid system. I agree with the comments they are tricky, MorningStar knows

Re: [RE-wrenches] Schneider Rapid shutdown with 2023 compliance

2024-01-01 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I had a some way similar experience I used fire raptor and added a relay to use Raptor signal to shutdown inverter. On Mon, Jan 1, 2024, 2:01 PM Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hello Wrenches, > > I need to retrofit a Schneider XW+ system with a rapid

Re: [RE-wrenches] Home grid stacked battery heating

2023-11-05 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Great site, Allan, but many facts still need to be included. Was there a discharge or charge going on? How much power was being drawn by the heaters? If this is for a standalone system, energy consumption is very important. What is the lower temperature cell discharge limit of Blue Planet?

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-27 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
You have had many good suggestions but note you are on border line power, at 2200 teet your power is down 10% note gen's are 80% of name plate, and you are asking for 7.2 kW from a Genny that with atmospheric correction is 7.2 kW On Fri, Oct 27, 2023, 8:27 AM Amos Post via RE-wrenches <

Re: [RE-wrenches] Well pump with Sol-Ark

2023-10-11 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I have off grid customers where I have them install 1/2 HP pump, also Franklin soft start seems to help, low cost but I do not know how it works, it has a start capacitor I think. On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 1:23 PM James Jarvis via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > On Wed, Oct

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator question

2023-09-25 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Generators are load responsive. They can not be back feed, one approach is to take heavy loads and have the inverter drop these loading heav load situations. bring these loads on line with a PLC On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:22 AM Chris Daum via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>

Re: [RE-wrenches] Franklin Home Power

2023-09-16 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
sorry for a dumb question but what is the voltage ranges of the Franklin? On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 4:26 PM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Enphase does generator support as well. Fortunately, I do not need that, > so maybe it opens up my options.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Power conditioner for Trace inverter

2023-09-09 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Power conditioner for Trace inverter

2023-09-08 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
New washing machines are small loads 400 Watts about. On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 2:27 PM Darryl Thayer wrote: > I once used a ferro-resonant transformer to clean up a sine wave. You > have to know the power. > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 1:59 PM Chris Daum via RE-wrenches < > re

Re: [RE-wrenches] Power conditioner for Trace inverter

2023-09-08 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I once used a ferro-resonant transformer to clean up a sine wave. You have to know the power. On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 1:59 PM Chris Daum via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi folks: > > > > I have a fellow with a Trace SW5548, purchased from us in 2001. It’s > been

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wind machines

2023-08-18 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I agree wit most of the comments. I have tested many VAWT none were any good. i had presented my study at the MIdwest Energy Fair, showing much higher trust on the turbine's and much lower performance. I just wanted to let you know that sume no performance at all. On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hawaiian Tie in

2023-08-08 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I need clarification; however, here is my interpretation for you. The utility feeds the meter and then the 100A breaker. Then you want this 100A breaker to feed the 220A bus panel. This 220A panel then supplies through a 100A breaker the house load. The solar also feeds the 220A panel. If the

Re: [RE-wrenches] 200a manual xfer switch w/ small aux contact : who makes it?

2023-07-26 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I have seen such equipment from generator suppliers, they will be reversing contactors, Look for reversing disconnecting switches I have used them from SQ D and Eaton, and GE. On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 5:26 PM Mick Abraham via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-22 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
How about a Morningstar relay driver? I have not done this exact thing before.but similar things. On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 4:05 PM jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > HI All, > > I wanted to revisit this thread for one reason. > > If you turn off the inverter at the

Re: [RE-wrenches] How to make PV Watts calculate solar on north facing roof

2023-07-19 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
t; > www.millersolar.com > > CA Lic. 773985 > > > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On > Behalf Of *Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2023 12:17 PM > *To:* newrewrenches > *Cc:* Darryl Thayer >

[RE-wrenches] How to make PV Watts calculate solar on north facing roof

2023-07-19 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Customer wants me to propose adding solar modules to north roof. I don't know how to get answer from PV Watts? ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium battery recommendation

2023-07-14 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I have one of four one alarm locked no tech support On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 2:11 PM Darryl Thayer wrote: > Yes the pytes are good price, I had problems and no tech support > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 1:51 PM Andrew Perkins via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>

Re: [RE-wrenches] High current dc combiner vibration

2023-07-01 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi you have the correct people on the job but get at the basics the forces causing the vibration is magnetic. You have to break the magnetic path. If it was electrical a simple cut in the enclosure. But it is magnetic which is much harder to stop. If the hum stops with the cover off replace the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Manufactured homes

2023-06-30 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
check with Iron Ridge as they have done for me On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 4:15 PM Bruce Erickson via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi California guys, > > We have a couple of leads that are manufactured homes, that have to be > permitted through the CA Housing and

Re: [RE-wrenches] LG Chem RESU10H Battery Question

2023-06-30 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi David I think although it is 450 volts out, the battery is actually moch lower voltage and has a buck boost charge controller. It bucks the voltage down to charge the battery and boost the voltage to serve the load. If you open the battery and rewire you will need a BMS, you can find on line

Re: [RE-wrenches] High current dc combiner vibration

2023-06-30 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Are we all thinking single phase? Another idea would be to use plastic enclosures in at least some way to break the magnetic path. This is a lot of current, and it will cause magnetic heating where the magnetic loop is complete. On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:19 AM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <

Re: [RE-wrenches] High current dc combiner vibration

2023-06-29 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi all, just a few comments, The inverter charger has a ripple on the DC. All have this; Outback is no exception. However, all wires should be run together, positive and negative same conduit and same hole, as the AC ripple magnetic effects cancel from both wires. Also, the circuit breaker has an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Iron Edison Lithium SOC drift

2023-06-29 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I have had similar problems with other equipment. fully the battery to top balance and then reset the SOC On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 7:04 AM Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > We have about 20 units out in service. > All of the batteries SOC readings

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium battery charge rate

2023-06-27 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi Jay and all, I belive Steve meant C/2 or C/3; just a typo. My oldest set of LiFe is almost 10 years? It has a fastest charge rate of C/0.2 because the 10 kWh is charged by 1.6 kW solar. These batteries are doing fine. I do not have a way of measuring the current capacity but On Mon, Jun

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium battery charge rate

2023-06-26 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi Jay, Larry says is correct. My experience, with cells and there BMS is they need to get up to top balance voltage then the BMS will stop charging the full cells and bring the remainder of cells up to fill charge. My oldest set is about 6 years old, since I understood they have been fine On

Re: [RE-wrenches] Need detailed help with Pytee battery

2023-06-05 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
. > Good Luck, > Howie > Sun Catcher > 802-272-0004 > > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 1:08 PM Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> I have a Pytee battery that has gone into alarm. Won't come out. >> Pytee says

[RE-wrenches] Need detailed help with Pytee battery

2023-06-03 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I have a Pytee battery that has gone into alarm. Won't come out. Pytee says to connect the computer and diagnose. That is all they said. They do not answer emails asking for further advice. Does anyone know what to do? Sps to use? Address to use?

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress LFPs & ENVY 12kw inverter

2023-06-01 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello, just an onion of an old person. I have needed a lot of tech help, I find Sol-Ark the best tech, So I would go with experiance. On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 11:19 AM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I am sizing my first Fortress system,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Just getting old?

2023-05-17 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Was the inverter connected at the time of testing? If so I suspect the inverter is loading the solar array below Vmp On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:23 PM frenergy via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Wrenches, > > I've got a call from a customer that said their

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery balancers

2023-05-16 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi Jay, if this is the LA AGM thin plate, I tried to look into this a few years ago. Being AGM, they have a recombination feature; when overcharged, they recombine the H2 O2, thus self-balancing, just like the top balance in LiFe. The caution is not to charge too fast in absorb mode. I decided

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2023-05-13 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I have used Egauge in this situation many times. They even have revenue-grade Current Transformers.(CTs) Their tech support is good, I find even I can set them up easily. They use normal English in their documentation. On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:21 PM Larry Brown via RE-wrenches <

Re: [RE-wrenches] Old and new Radian

2023-05-10 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Sorry if this is nonsense, but your existing Radian is your "AC grid source," It can act as the paralleling. AC coupling source. I did this about 20 to 30 years ago, using FX inverters, not Radians, to power a large motor. Can your Radian Mate 3 run in grid zero? Or if not, one inverter runs all

Re: [RE-wrenches] problem using Radian on TOU metering

2023-05-03 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I am in Minnesota utility is Xcel energy On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:12 PM Jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Which utility has such low rates? > > SMUD? > > Jay > > > > On May 2, 2023, at 12:05 PM, Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches <

[RE-wrenches] problem using Radian on TOU metering

2023-05-02 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello, I apologize for perhaps a dumb question. I did go online to ask Outback twice, no answer.System Radian 8 kW and Mate3 with 2 each 1.5 kW solar arrays into 2 ea. MX60s. Battery 20 kWh LiFe open loop. The owner wants the lowest energy bill. The rates are; off-peak at 0.04/kWh and

Re: [RE-wrenches] active vs apparent power readings with solar

2023-04-29 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi all, if the micros are not producing power I would expect an extremely low power factor. The power factor of all inverters is low not in use. Make sure electrician is measuring during production. My measurements are extra low for micro inverters. On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 4:11 PM August Goers

Re: [RE-wrenches] active vs apparent power readings with solar

2023-04-28 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
This power factor is impossible, can he measure the apparent power then the real power separately devide the real by apparent to get power factor. I guess he has connections wrong, wrong leg of split phase. If the inverter is off, then possible, do you measure current off the inverter and DC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium upgrade when Magnasine goes to float too soon

2023-04-18 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello, I have had similar serious problems when working with old batteries. Their voltage rises rapidly when charging. The older batteries will lose in capacity and more so charging rate. Have the batteries been equalized periodically? If not, they will develop sulfur on the plates. The

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV and EMP

2023-03-10 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
It depends upon the pulse. It you are referring to a an EMP caused by a solar storm this is hard on large electrical grids. No problem on Solar equipment. The voltage current is Ndf/dt number of turns times rate of change of flux, the grid can collapse but if you disconnect from grid (multimode

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters

2023-03-08 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello the answer is yes. On a job several years ago to finish I worked after dark. It was a full moon, and a street light was nearby I got bit from a 500 Voc module string. I am sure I did not have 500 V but it only takes 20 ma. To be deadly. I did not get my volt ohm meter out but I should

Re: [RE-wrenches] Low Frequency transformer off-grid inverter options

2023-01-14 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello i have an XW Pro that starts a 2 HP induction motor reliably, i noticed th scope indicates battery voltage current issue, be sure your batteries can supply the starting surge. I recently installed a new set of batteries. Some not all Li can surge. On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 5:13 PM bob--- via

Re: [RE-wrenches] Utility transformer limitations

2022-12-26 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
o or > two if you are just over the limit. Even better, maybe they would allow you > set an export limit on the micros you have installed. > > > > I had a recent situation where a 40kW DC system had exceeded a utility > transformer by only 2kW AC, so a simple redesign avoided an $8k inv

Re: [RE-wrenches] Utility transformer limitations

2022-12-25 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
It is common practice for the utility to overload the transformer a lot for the potential load. They expect no one will use their service at maximum, furthermore, they expect non coincidence of loads. Look at the transformer most have a label as to the kW or the unit, and the utility should give

Re: [RE-wrenches] XW Grid Support or?

2022-12-25 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Assuming this is a zero instantaneous no export, not on the daily or monthly. I have installed a few XW, and XW PRO inverters, however, I have never done an instantaneous no export project on the entire service. The problem is the load. Ideally you want to monitor the service entrance and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum MS4024 grief

2022-12-18 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi, happy holidays to all. Of course it sounds like a dual bonding situation. Inverter generators are normally floating neutral, rotating generators are normally neutral bonded internally in the generator. The GFCI detects a neutral current on the ground wire. If the generator is bonded

Re: [RE-wrenches] solar lease questions

2022-12-17 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi all, not enough information. Does her grid allow export? Does she have a period of poor sun? What is her daily or monthly consumption? Is there an AC or DC limit on connected solar power? Will her AHJ or Utility allow line side tap? The system seems to be poorly designed. Power Walls are AC

Re: [RE-wrenches] BACKUP system revival

2022-12-17 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello and happy holidays. About 10 years ago, I had a similar problem with a similar customer who wanted a similar problem solved. The Generac auto transfer switch needed a 12 volt source. When the grid went down the generac transfer switch disconnected and waited about 10 to 15 seconds then

Re: [RE-wrenches] Frequency converter?

2022-10-06 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi Chris, this a Darryl kluge approach. Get a 50 Hz battery charger, a LiFePO battery. And a off grid inverter. 20 kW is tough, maybe a 15 kW inverter woild surfice. The battery plus battery chsrger should be sized to handle 300 amps 48 volts. 15 kW / 50 volts= 300 A. If the battery can handle

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase String Breaker Heating Up

2022-08-04 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello, breakers are thermal-magnetic the current heats the breaker; if the current is high enough for long enough, a solder pot inside melts; this current and excessive heat causes other breakers to open Are you sure the string current is less than 80% of the breaker rating and the wire

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery disconnect solution

2022-05-09 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I want to comment, maybe without value. The breaker you mention is called a "shunt trip" breaker. This is common type breaker in the electrical industry. The MN breaker has a 24 volt solenoid that trips the breaker. Shunt Trip breakers have the solenoid voltage for the system voltage. BUT the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Schneider XW MPPT 80/600 rapid shut down

2022-04-19 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Yes but how do you trigger fire raptor except by the fire raptor switch? It will take care of by manual control but what about 690.11? On Tue, Apr 19, 2022, 5:06 PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > You may want to look at fire raptor as a RSD option. >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Schneider XW MPPT 80/600 rapid shut down

2022-04-19 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I understand the complete Tigo line and any sun-spec MLPE will work, however, it also requires the RSD box from Schneider I don't have experience with any other than the firestop tigo On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 11:42 AM jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > HI All > >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k

2022-04-17 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
fety issue here, but I also don't see how the NEC allows the > conductor to be sized for anything less than 200A. > > Jason > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 11:29 AM Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> The tap r

Re: [RE-wrenches] Is There an "Off-grid" (i.e. constant voltage) Version of Microinverters?

2022-04-17 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
r > > Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D. > President, California Solar Engineering > 1107 Fair Oaks Blvd Ste. 351 > South Pasadena, CA 91030 > (323) 839-6108 > > On 04/16/2022 3:59 PM Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > > y

Re: [RE-wrenches] Is There an "Off-grid" (i.e. constant voltage) Version of Microinverters?

2022-04-17 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
ident, California Solar Engineering >> 1107 Fair Oaks Blvd Ste. 351 >> South Pasadena, CA 91030 >> (323) 839-6108 >> >> On 04/16/2022 3:59 PM Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches < >> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >> >> >> yes, there are t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k

2022-04-17 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
gt; off-grid scenario with a generator and smart load, we would now need to >> integrate an AC disconnect for generator input (grid) and either a fused >> disconnect or loads panel for any smart load output. With the 12K unit, the >> integrated breakers help cut down on BOS and install ti

Re: [RE-wrenches] Is There an "Off-grid" (i.e. constant voltage) Version of Microinverters?

2022-04-16 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
yes, there are three versions of the cybo inverter, the one that I a most familiar with produced a 60 HZ AC signal; the voltage did not exceed 120 volts or 240 volts. The voltage out times the current out was equal to the voltage in times current in. This allowed me to operate a resistance load,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k

2022-04-16 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello, The overcurrent device is to protect the conductors. you can put any size wire, but you must protect with the overcurrent device. REmember in solar equipment; you may have more than one supply source. The DC best example is solar modules connected in parallel, on On Fri, Apr 15,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark install

2022-04-14 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hi, Ron, Yes, you must be careful of the MPPT inputs. You state Sol-Ark has an 18 amp max input, meaning you can not have more than 1 string supplying an MPPT if your 60 cell modules are 10 amps Isc. You state Sol-Ark has a maximum voltage per MPPT of 500 volts, this voltage is *not Voc x number

Re: [RE-wrenches] Water Pumping 24/7

2022-04-01 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
ad, Atascadero, CA 93422 > > 805-438-5600 > > www.millersolar.com > > CA Lic. 773985 > > > > > > *From:* Wesley Kennedy [mailto:hathaso...@yahoo.com] > *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2022 9:58 AM > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Cc:* William Miller; Darryl Thayer > *Subject:*

Re: [RE-wrenches] Water Pumping 24/7

2022-03-27 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello, Sorry to be so late but I have been overloaded. Just a note on physics of lifting water. The calculation indicates if you pump 1 gallon per minute up 300 feet it required a water hp of 5 HP Use this base number and good pumps are about 70% efficient. If the flow rate is not 1 GPM adjust

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wires between arrays

2022-03-22 Thread Darryl Thayer
Once in my life i had an inspector concerned about strain relief, i used a GBC on each end of the pipe, it surficed. I think i could have used a bell mouth connector. On Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 3:43 PM Dave Tedeyan wrote: > Hi All, > > I have an inspector giving me a hard time about wire management

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium battery in non cycling use

2022-02-23 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Jay I am not sure what non-cycling use is, I have mentioned before in my experience where a cell in the string can become lower in charge and the string loses capacity in discharge because the BMS shuts off the complete battery when the troubled cell reaches low voltage cut out. To prevent

Re: [RE-wrenches] Autotransformer for Single Phase Motor Headache

2022-01-31 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi i have a single phase motor at a old install that i replaced about 8 years ago. Would it help if i made some starting load surge measurments? On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 11:52 PM Darryl Thayer wrote: > Hi Chris, In the past, I was able to start a 5 hp pump motor using a VFD. > ,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Autotransformer for Single Phase Motor Headache

2022-01-28 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Chris, In the past, I was able to start a 5 hp pump motor using a VFD. , I can not remember the make, of the VFD but I think it was an ABB 7.5 or 10 HP connected to a single-phase motor. I started it on two Outback 3548s (or maybe 3024s). Now for the tricky part, I have done this several

Re: [RE-wrenches] Well siphon?

2022-01-27 Thread Darryl Thayer
Yes, but if the rise is greater than about 30 feet (25 feet even) the water head is greater than atmospheric and the water will draw a vacuum in the pipe. These numbers depend upon the location (elevation) and temperature of the water. for example at 15,000 feet the atmosphere is about 1/2 or sea

Re: [RE-wrenches] Transmitting 15kW 3600ft Off Grid.

2022-01-10 Thread Darryl Thayer
Yes, i agree, with others, DC has lower losses when at higher voltage, when i was involved with similar project, we took transformer cost plus wire cost did some simulations, (added wire and transformer for different configurations) and selected lowest cost. On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 5:34 AM Foxfire

Re: [RE-wrenches] Conext MPPT60-150 controller and LFP batteries

2021-12-10 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Chris, I have used the above configuration with success. Here are some background ideas. I have done some simpliphi installs however I am old and these are five to 7 years ago. The Simpliphi's I installed had a top balance BMS. (When one of the cells reaches full charge voltage, the BMS

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large lithium chargers

2021-12-02 Thread Darryl Thayer
Jay I am confused as usual, what are the loads? AC or DC? How are you charging the battery from the generator or how is the battery powering the loads? What is the desired current or the size of the generator? sorry if this I dumb question On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 2:23 PM Jay wrote: > I got

Re: [RE-wrenches] Harris lithium battery as drop-in replacement for Outback RE2200 AGM?

2021-11-04 Thread Darryl Thayer
forgive me I am not the brightest bulb. But if you are replacing the Outback 2200 RE with 2100 AH and about 1100 AH usable, or @ 51V then 56 kWh with Lithium, 62 kWh, Do you have the charging capacity to charge at 280 amps? This is to allow full use of the solar array. One of the things I have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Is Solark UL 9540 Certified?

2021-07-20 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi all, my experiance, is a Lead Acid battery is acceptable under 480 Storage Batteries. 480 is the older article and Lead Acid has been used with great success particularly under 48 volts with no outside disconnect required. 480.7(A) On Tue, Jul 20, 2021, 2:37 PM Eric Smiley wrote: > Sol-Ark

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-19 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Jay, here are my guesses: 1) Customer is using all the power (3.5 is not a large array) 2) Per William Miller, the batteries are shot. 3) combination of 1 &2 4) Bulk voltage is too high, daily trying to go to bulk voltage drives the batteries to the grave. Float voltage is too high, acting as

Re: [RE-wrenches] seeking 3ph battery based/backed inverters and experiences

2021-04-20 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hello all, When I have done a small 3-phase I have used Outback GVFX 3548 up to 32 kW (120/208) my largest was about 45 kW it worked for 12 years, then was replaced when the owner wanted to go larger. I made a 3-phase design using Solark but SolArk did not understand 3-phase and could not

Re: [RE-wrenches] Powerwall 2 AC PV regulation

2021-04-18 Thread Darryl Thayer
Regarding 3 Power Walls PWs, more solar modules, and inverters. I hope this is helpful, I am always going to first principles. You did not mention what the customer expectations are. I see three common possibilities, 1) For backup power, in which case you need generation control, such as the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Powerwall 2 AC PV regulation

2021-04-17 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hello, I hope this helps. I have very little PW experience, the one i was involved in had a 1741 transfer switch with grid monitoring on the mains. When the grid failed the switch would disconnect from the Grid and connect the PW to the panel or sub-panel. The PW charges from the AC source when

Re: [RE-wrenches] Pool heating solutions

2021-04-06 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Chris, It is about 30 or 40 years since I installed solar pool heating. 0) a pool cover is the best heat source, should be easy on and off 1) use an ECM pool pump, big cost savings. As the pump will run a lot. It will quickly pay for itself 2) I liked the 4 foot, 3 foot? wide headers and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solectria PVI 15 issue

2021-03-30 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi, could it be a soft grid issue? Where if you put power into the grid, it changes voltages? Measure the grid voltage using a recording meter like an Egauge, use the one (1) second scale (10 minutes regestar). Sorry if this is of no help. On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 5:58 PM Tump wrote: > Folks I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Tesla Powerwall

2021-02-04 Thread Darryl Thayer
Here is my two cents worth. the PW is "grid following" and so is the sunny boy when the grid is up. When the grid fails the PW becomes grid forming, bi-directional, inverter charger with frequency shift to control charging. The newer SBs will accept frequency shifts and be controlled. So yes it

Re: [RE-wrenches] Load imbalance issues with SolArk?

2021-02-03 Thread Darryl Thayer
Nick, Larry has it correct, the 4kW autotransformer (PSX 240) will use both of the 120-volt legs of the inverter. It has two winding each able to handle one leg to neutral, but able to transfer power from one leg to the other. You can have 8000 Watts on either leg, one at a time, continuously,

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator tripping GFCI

2020-12-19 Thread Darryl Thayer
The way a GFCI operates is by comparing the line current and the neutral current inside the device. If some of the neutral current is returning through a ground circuit instead of the neutral the imbalance will trip the device. The generator neutral and the inverter neutral must have a common

Re: [RE-wrenches] Modifying a plumbing vent

2020-08-30 Thread Darryl Thayer
I think the earlier code required a 45 degree slope for any vent above ceiling, attic space On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 6:07 PM Jerry Shafer wrote: > I have relocated roof vents several times, just have to make sure they > comply, no P traps, flat or downward trends. Fasten correctly to the >

Re: [RE-wrenches] lithium battery question

2020-08-25 Thread Darryl Thayer
They are like LA batteries and have a cycle count affect lifetime and like LA batteries the life cycle depend upon DOD per cycle. They also have a calendar life. It is generally accepted that LIFE batteries have 5000 deep cycles and 10,000 equivalent cycles if they are shallow, slow discharge and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Best Battery

2020-08-09 Thread Darryl Thayer
Kilovault Pl AGM for backup power, i am replacing C 15 year old backup power batteries now much cheaper when cycling is infrequent. By the way most AGM need cycling. On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 3:10 PM Ken Schaal wrote: > Any thoughts on Kilovault that Morningstar is teaming up with? > Time for me

Re: [RE-wrenches] Small scale Maximisers/Optimisers.....

2020-08-03 Thread Darryl Thayer
The linear current booster is capable of increasing current on say motor start-up, once the motor is started, its current needs dropdown. A battery has high current capability, so I would not expect any advantage in an LCB. If the LCB is of the buck-boost type you may be able to run a 24-volt

Re: [RE-wrenches] dual rated 600/1000v cable for HV battery application

2020-08-01 Thread Darryl Thayer
Also my supplier has XHHW rated at 1000 volts On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 9:18 PM Darryl Thayer wrote: > I would not worry as 1000 volt AC has a 1400 volt peak, voltage, > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 10:33 AM Kirk Herander wrote: > >> I need to spec battery cable for a nominal 850 vdc

Re: [RE-wrenches] dual rated 600/1000v cable for HV battery application

2020-08-01 Thread Darryl Thayer
I would not worry as 1000 volt AC has a 1400 volt peak, voltage, On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 10:33 AM Kirk Herander wrote: > I need to spec battery cable for a nominal 850 vdc LFP bank. Several > brands of power cable list their rating at a dual 600/1000v. it is my > understanding that to be listed in

Re: [RE-wrenches] protecting wire below 8'

2020-07-17 Thread Darryl Thayer
Yes but see Article100.1 for the definition of accessible and readily accessible, to access you need a ladder. implies I think where the 8-foot idea come from I think this is poor writing, but it is accepted to be beyond reach On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 11:02 AM AE Solar wrote: > Kirk, > Not sure

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging a Bolt with an SW

2020-06-07 Thread Darryl Thayer
ad, more steps, therefor cleaner so maybe at > lower charge rate it’s not clean enough. > > As to your issue it could be power factor Being really poor. > Can you tell us what inverter, yea 5 years ago is a long time. > > > > Jay > > Peltz power. > > > > >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging a Bolt with an SW

2020-06-07 Thread Darryl Thayer
I think you said it well, about 5 years ago I tried to charge a car from an off-grid system. I did not record my events but the inverter had twice the power of the level two charger, yet the inverter would get hot and trip out. I was told a ferroresonant transformer may help, and it might be

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase intermittent breaker trippjng

2020-06-03 Thread Darryl Thayer
In my experiance if the combiner is in the sun breakers will be hot breakers are a thermal device and should be kept at room temperature. Try substituting the HCAC type breaker for the stanard breaker On Thu, May 21, 2020, 8:57 AM Jason Szumlanski < ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote: >

Re: [RE-wrenches] How much Li battery?

2020-05-24 Thread Darryl Thayer
I have spoken with a li battery researcher. Do not charge over 85% of battery full charge voltage and they will last over 25 years. But go above or below bottom and trouble On Sun, May 24, 2020, 10:27 AM Jay wrote: > One question I have for those more versed than me in lithium is, I’m under >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown Compliance

2020-04-29 Thread Darryl Thayer
my two cents worth, 690.11 says turn off from all arcs, that means serial and parallel that means module lwevel shutdown ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Paralleling CC

2020-04-24 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Jay, as I see it there are two problems with parallel. One is the burnout of the FET in one of the controllers, and the other is the "not knowing what the other is doing. The burn out is caused by the capacitors in one CC supplying a surge current to the other CC. I tried this and it seemed

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