I agree. If you look at the BCD codes, there's EXACTLY enough spaces for 5
kHz channels between the wide and narrow band assignments for 50-54 MHz.
We use Daniel's exclusively in our low-band statewide radio system, and I
spoke with one of their engineers about this out at IWCE last March and he
On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:03 AM, James Adkins wrote:
I agree. If you look at the BCD codes, there's EXACTLY enough spaces for 5
kHz channels between the wide and narrow band assignments for 50-54 MHz.
We use Daniel's exclusively in our low-band statewide radio system, and I
spoke with
I've never had that experience with them, their tech support is top notch.
And their equipment is top notch, too. It's very expensive, though. Like
any company, you just have to find the right person to spill the beans
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote:
On
Hello to All,
This is my first attempt at working on a Motorola GR300 repeater. It is
using the GM300 radios and ZR310 controller. I have replaced the GM300
radios with wide band units and almost have it working. The original
repeater functioned fine. I replaced the receive radio and got
Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing
HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great
and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am
hearing of others that are also very interested.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike,
A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a
MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling
block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use
the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440
Hi Eric,
Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can
get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo.com
http://www.usedmototrbo.com/ site up here and there will be many other
digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the
There are at least a couple of easy ways you can do this.
First, you can program one wildcard output for RX PL DETECT and a second
wildcard output for RX CAR DET. Connect both of those to your external
controller and let it decide when or if both are necessary.
A second method would be to
Mike,
There's always going to be excitement about, and interest in, digital
systems. Please answer my question: How many Hams in your area have
purchased and are now using MotoTrbo radios?
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Re: Daniels Electronics MT-3 Lowband Radios on 6 meters?
Yes, it can be done...
Per one of my associates who works on MT-3 units all the
time... they can be moved out of band but the required
work is cumbersome. The six meter band plan (out here on
the left coast) appears to have two
The trick is spending a whole bunch of money with them, which the State
of California has done. You know the drill: Money talks, and BS walks...
On 2/14/2010 4:26 AM, Nate Duehr wrote:
On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:03 AM, James Adkins wrote:
I agree. If you look at the BCD codes, there's
Eric:
Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being
coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital
technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the
state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time
Hi Eric,
There are currently about 50 radios that have the ham systems programmed
into their radios. I would say that there will by the end of next month,
there should be 50 or so hams that have radios in the Colorado area. The
emails are flying around this area on how to acquire radios and
Did you try using the keys on the front of the radio as the TTP? I think
they still did that on that model and they don't have to be in a memory.
Joe M.
ka9qjg1 wrote:
I have an Old Kenwood TM-3530A 220 Radio I need to be able to send TT To work
on My Repeater Controller
The radio works
I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo
to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in
Vertex/Standard.
IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and
dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from
And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format.
Joe M.
Mark wrote:
I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers
MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have
ownership in Vertex/Standard.
IMHO, adding MotoTrbo
Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no
longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the
same box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and
put it in the dealer's price sheet last month.
my 2 cents
MCH wrote:
And
Mike,
In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10
amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO.
I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting
or are they leaving everything in the default setting?
Dan
KA8YPY
On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:24 AM, k7...@skybeam.com
AJ,
The obvious solution is to connect a commercial switching power supply-
definitely NOT a linear supply- across the AC source. Most Samlex, Astron,
and DuraComm switchers can work wonders in such an environment, where
conventional linear power supplies will surely fail. Don't use a larger
AJ wrote:
We've been given the opportunity to setup a remote receiver at the end
of local local cable television provider's plant on the hill to help
with coverage. Powering is the only issue we're running in to -
currently the only power available within 6 pole spans is the 90 V AC
Easy to breadboard at home: Grab a transformer with a 120V and 18V secondary.
Feed it with 90 volts AC, it should product somewhere around 16 volts AC on
the secondary. Filter and regulate as necesssary.
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, AJ aj.grant...@... wrote:
They've offered
Modify a junked cable line extender, remove all the RF stuff and keep
just the power supply section.
Doesn't a MASTR II ps automatically compensate for low line voltage? Mine does.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Glenn Little WB4UIV glennmaill...@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:29:56
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
The Vertex MotoTrbo product is just a re-badged and watered down Motorola
product and nothing more. No point re-inventing the wheel for the big M, and
also they need to compromise in the marketplace, without upsetting their
Motorola Sales/Dealers.
HYT will be the ones to watch as their gear is
Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4
Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are
more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with
interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity
that
This is such an interesting thread that I decided to bench-test my
hypothesis posted earlier. Using a DuraComm LP-14N switching power supply
set for 13.8 VDC output, a variable AC power source, and an electronic load,
I tested the power supply to see at what input voltage it would falter, at
Has anyone here used the Pion and Simon PSE508 series of controllers in a GE
Mastr II ?
Is the 508-3 with 4 channels of CTCSS worth considering ?
73 John VE3AMZ
I have 71 Aliases in my codeplug for the 9 UHF boxes on the TRBO-6 IPSC Network
as of this morning. Seems like I add something everyday, and it's a bit of a
pain keeping for different plugs synced. It is a blast and I must echo Mike in
that the enthusiasm is very high in our growing group.
I have 2 in service now wIth 1 one the way. That thing is real plug-n-play.
Highly recommended.
- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun Feb 14 15:06:28 2010
My point was not to keep NCDN and P25, but rather to have one digital
voice format on the bands everyone can use as opposed to 27 formats.
Joe M.
Tom Parker wrote:
Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no
longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and
Yep been running one on our ARMY MARS repeater and working great.
Bought another as a spare.
David
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John J. Riddell
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
I carry a Trbo daily for work with analog amateur in it. I have installed
both standalone and IP connect repeaters at our sites. I can't find info on
Trbo-6. Are many amateur Trbo repeaters connected? I would love to put on
in place and connect it.
Glenn
W8AK
In a message dated
Word has it that later this year there will be P25 flash for the trbo radio
but will work on both from what I hear. My 2 cents as well.
Mike
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Parker
Sent: Sunday, February 14,
HYT will offer it at the IWCE this year and will get broshures and info for the
new web site.
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
6886 Sage Ave
Firestone, Co 80504
303-736-9693
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth
I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series
radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA
phase 2 P25 will be TDMA.
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Hi Mike,
Here in Colorado there has been an overwhelming interest especially in the
volunteers for served agencies like ARES and RACES. I do have to say that it
is very exciting and am very glad I swapped the analog repeater.
I think I can echo all repeater owners around the country that
Hi Glen,
Go to www.yahoo.com/groups and search for the MT-USA group and register
their. Mike WB6WUI will most likely email a welcome letter back to you and
you can get the information your looking for.
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
6886 Sage Ave
Firestone, Co 80504
303-736-9693
P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be
Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out
with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the
defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their
1st digital
Joe is right on the money... the front panel of the TM-3530
becomes a DMTF Pad in the Transmit Mode.
s.
MCH m...@... wrote:
Did you try using the keys on the front of the radio as the TTP? I think
they still did that on that model and they don't have to be in a memory.
Joe M.
Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does
not always mean it will be accepted as the de-facto standard,
Normally you'd want to think the above is true...
You should see the line of Borg (event attendees) waiting to
get into the IWCE Motorola Displays. Almost in-line pushing
Yes , I saw that and took off the Mic , Maybe the older Kenwood did not
supply the Voltage for that . But when I push the TT Pad on the Radio
I can hear the Tones coming out of the Int Speaker But not Mixing in with
the Audio out of the Transmitter . There is an adjustment to turn that
I have 8 new, in the box and sealed in plastic, F2PNM connectors for
sale. This is for the popular 3/8 Superflex cable that some use for
jumpers. $7 each or all 8 for $50, plus shipping. The boxes are
slightly shop-worn.
73, Joe, K1ike
I have a very broad band uhf antenna on a tower . I would like to run a
440 MHz machine and a 462 MHz machine off of the same antenna . Can I
use a notch type mobile duplexer to combine the 2 machines to 1 ant for
both TX and RX to notch the respective TX freqs after the duplexers
that are
AJ wrote:
We've been given the opportunity to setup a remote receiver at the end
of local local cable television provider's plant on the hill to help
with coverage. Powering is the only issue we're running in to -
currently the only power available within 6 pole spans is the 90 V AC
plant
Eric Lemmon wrote:
AJ,
The obvious solution is to connect a commercial switching power supply-
definitely NOT a linear supply- across the AC source. Most Samlex, Astron,
and DuraComm switchers can work wonders in such an environment, where
conventional linear power supplies will surely
Bet they didnt mention that the power amps they used on the project were not
theirs and that they suffered from self-regeneration oscillation, that took
three re-heats to correct... They used the Milcom successors whats their name..
I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be
TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air.
Joe M.
Dan Blasberg wrote:
P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be
Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes
The plan as I have it is to merge P25 and Trbo into a Tetra Product, for
release in 2012, at which time Turbo will be discontinued and abandoned as its
not true 6.25kc and wont comply with the new 2.5kc standard that all will have
to start adhering to. Trbo takes up 12.5kc though it provides 2
Well-there are several companies which are making 12.5 KHz conversion kits for
Mastr II's and other radios, where are not type accepted for commercial service
but can be used for ham service, the big issue to me is that the commercial
community has years to prepare for 12.5 Hz narrow banding
Kevin,
Not to worry. The great advantage of a switching power supply is that it
will operate on any AC or DC input, of any frequency or waveform. A linear
power supply, in stark contrast, must be designed for the particular input
voltage, frequency, and waveshape. The CATV power supplies are
Why should the hams change at all? What is the driving force to make this
change in amateur radio? More repeaters, more users??... Even in the major
metro areas with all the supposedly available 2 meter pairs spoken for you can
go for days without hearing anything on these machines other than
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, j.cherry377 j.cherry...@... wrote:
...My question is when will the 440 and 2m bands start talking about making a
unified 6.25 kc divisible bandplan and apply it nationwide? They will have to do
it so might as well get started talking about it. I know that
The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete.
And yes, there are several TDMA TYPE 2 systems up and working, but
none are certified PHASE 2 P25 systems.
I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a
statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2
A nationwide bandplan? LOL!!! Good one! ROFLMAO
It couldn't be done with just NBFM. What makes you think it can be done
with the new mix of modes and bandwidths that will be the flavor of the
week?
Seriously, the minority of hams have NB equipment and don't care to change.
The solution will
Why would anyone have to start talking about a 6.25 Bandplan?
Since naroowbanding does not apply to amateur radio, what makes you
think any of the equipment manufacturers will make narrowband specific
equipment?
Yes, FMN is an option on some amateur rigs, but not all. And with the
narrow
Most coordinators are already trying to convert a part of their band plan to
accommodate digital technology. The FDMA 6.25khz equipment is a good system,
however I cant see a ham group buy into the NXDN system to get 2 channels. I
think that it will be some time before the ham bands go all the way
Hi Dan,
Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that now, ha
ha.
I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using color code
1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would be neat if there
were a web site that compiled all the systems
You said Ethernet for links...
Take a peak at the Ubiquity Networks AirGrid line - 24 and 27 dBi parabolic
dish systems that integrate the 2.4 5.8 GHz radios in to the feedhorn
assembly...
We have a set of demo units (smaller 16 dBi 2.4 GHz units) setup right now,
hacked to use the ham portion
Dan, there will be a time when we cant get a wide band commercial repeater
that we use for our beloved 25khz analog repeaters anymore. Here in under 2
years when the FCC requires all manufactures to stop building wideband
equipment and everyone in the commercial band to be at a 12.5khz emission.
AJ do you have a link you can forward.
We are working on a 3.4-3.5ghz broadband PTP system and going to build our
own broadband ham network here in Colorado. I will have John keep the web
site up to date on the progress. www.rmham.org http://www.rmham.org/
Thanks,
Mike Mullarkey
We use many ham and commercial repeaters using the same antennas, but
require the proper filtering. A mobile duplexer is not sutable for what you
are trying to do here. You can get a transmit combiner Hybrid or cavity for
the transmitters and use a receiver multicoupler that has a dual window one
Mike,
I see your point for the commercial side, but how many amateur groups
are going upgrade firmware on a repeater after it is up and working?
How many are going to upgrade firmware on a machine that doesn't need
it before they put it into operation?
But there is plenty of non software
Mike,
Thanks for the info, next time I am through your neck of the woods on
my way to visit family, i will load up your machine in the HT.
Dan
KA8YPY
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:00 AM, k7...@skybeam.com k7...@skybeam.com
wrote:
Hi Dan,
Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to
I see your point, however most hams get their equipment surplus and that
will be happening for some time to come. I was just pointing out a possible
snafu that could arise and thought many may need to know.
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
6886 Sage Ave
Firestone, Co 80504
303-736-9693
Sounds good well look for you on the air. By that time you may want to look
at the web site to see if there are any more on line. www.rmham.org
http://www.rmham.org/
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
6886 Sage Ave
Firestone, Co 80504
303-736-9693
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From:
I dont think TRBO will be going anywhere anytime soon, as its archature is
like a phase 2 type system.
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
6886 Sage Ave
Firestone, Co 80504
303-736-9693
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Thanks Mike.
Bookmarked.
Dan
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:53 AM, k7...@skybeam.com k7...@skybeam.com
wrote:
Sounds good well look for you on the air. By that time you may want
to look at the web site to see if there are any more on line. www.rmham.org
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
6886 Sage Ave
On Feb 14, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Tom Parker wrote:
Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no
longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same
box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in
the dealer's
On Feb 14, 2010, at 3:23 PM, k7...@skybeam.com k7...@skybeam.com wrote:
Here in Colorado there has been an overwhelming interest especially in the
volunteers for served agencies like ARES and RACES. I do have to say that it
is very exciting and am very glad I swapped the analog repeater.
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