Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX

2005-05-23 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Mark A. Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep I even recall the Novice Class I had back in 1976 we were discussing the KC's , MC's to Khz. and Mhz. was on the exam probably. Then the material was probably out of date. The CPS to Hz was made in 1967. Almost 10 years before your Novice

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater-Builder antennas and other products

2005-05-13 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I've never been able to explain to people is: Why do the big Celwave, Sinclair, etc. StationMaster type antennas have only 5.2 dB gain? Actually, the 2-meter range ones are listed as typically having only 4.8 dB gain, after putting the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] dtmf, ctcss and pl decoding

2005-04-21 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Nick Papadonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, Is anyone aware of either hardware or software components to decode PL tone, DTMF and CTCSS? Open source software is preferred. I'm interested creating open source repeater controller software. Uncommon features may include,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Alert Monitor

2005-04-02 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Steve Helton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my understanding that you can NOT replay the weather alert message on an amateur repeater but rather can only use the monitor radio to activate a message indicating WEATHER ALERT - LISTEN TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO FOR MORE INFORMATION. We have

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena

2005-03-29 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- NØATH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite on topic - But I can send any one who would like it a picture of a Rohn 25 with the top neck twisted out of it because of such an antenna mounted on the top neck. Please mount these on one of the top legs or if center mounting, mount on a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Better RX with feedline partailly disconnected?

2005-03-21 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Michael Singewald N1PLH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, this is making me nuts. I have changed jumpers about 3 times thinking I have a cable problem but I am convinced it is not the cable. Here are the symptoms: 220 Hamtronics receiver (very old, no labeling on the board). Tunes

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good quality RG-8X ?

2005-03-13 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Al Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Group, My comments about RG-8X coax are based upon my limited exrperiance with it. I have never owned any or used any that I remember. The stuff that I have examined all seemed to have a very open weave to it. The only connector I know of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Line loss

2005-02-20 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- n2odw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to the group, I'm new to this group and also new at trying to build a repeater system. My main question is about line lost. Could anybody tell me how to figue out line loss out for the purpose my repeater application and for the use of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Starting out with a Mastr II

2005-01-28 Thread Ralph Mowery
- repeaters are expensive. Expect at the very least to spend $4-5k for a very simple building top site, more if you need to climb towers, etc. Actually, most of my money for a repeater goes into the controller, duplexer, feedline and antenna. The actual radio portion is only 15-20%

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Transistor Checking

2005-01-26 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just need a short memory replacement here please. I'm working on an Astron 35 amp power supply, hope to get it going again. I'm checking the transistors in the unit, and not sure if I remember correctly. On my vom, in the diode checking

Re: [Repeater-Builder] vertical antenna isolation

2005-01-12 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- ad5oj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am building a 2m amateur repeater with out a duplexer and am using vertical seperation instead. I have two 2m Handheld radios placed with seperate antennas on a tower instead of placing them at the bottom of the tower. I am having trouble

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Outlet for RG214/U

2004-12-29 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Chuck and Kevin. Found them on the net. Dang, $2.00 a foot, must be made of GOLD...Ah well, gotta have it. Here is anothere place. Just be sure to ghe the mill spec instead of the comercias grade. One is about # 1.88 per foot and the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Iso Tee Help again

2004-12-23 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I've brought this subject up before, but have lost all the emails about it. I need some help building an RF Coupler Iso-Tee to begin learning to adjust duplexers. Someone gave me some instructions on how to build one out of a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Did measurement of inductors change???

2004-12-23 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, what you posted is what I had always known. But now that I am looking in order books for Newark Allied, I can't even find anything listed for millihenries, only microhenries!!! For the Newark online catalog use 2200 u henries or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you should get it right. It has never been a first class Technicians license... Or ony class TECHNICIANS LICENSE. We who had to take the exams to get them knoww what they are/were. I still give exams for the General Radiotelephone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 600 - 10k ohm Interface

2004-12-12 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Kevin Natalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I need a simple interface for a 600 ohm output radio to a controller which accepts 10k ohm. This is a RX not TX. I don't want to make a circuit board if I don't need to. Any ideas? Just hang a resistor of about 600 ohms across

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Requiring CTCSS

2004-12-04 Thread Ralph Mowery
That's not meant to be an argument against using tone, just pointing out one of the problems. Two possible solutions are: 1) A common tone defeat code on DTMF which would allow a transient user to at least access the repeater long enough to hear the announcement (there are a couple

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: snide remarks (and using CTCSS)

2004-12-03 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Yes, I do think repeater building is about keeping up with the technology and building quality machines. Being a 40+ year veteran of commercial two way radio, I cannot comprehend someone not wanting to use 30 year old technology (as you put it.) As well, I can't comprehend someone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e

2004-11-19 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy all my repeater antennas from Cook Towers. They have them in stock in the Ham bands and discount to us Hams. Good luck and 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e

2004-11-19 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- rtoplus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ralph If Derwood hasn't contacted you yet, he will. I gave him the info via email yesterday. 73 Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892 I have not been contacted by Derwood yet, but he probably did not know I was off today and I

[Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e

2004-11-18 Thread Ralph Mowery
I have seen this discussed before but looked in the past messages and could not find it. Where are some places to buy the DB224 exposed 4 bay dipole antenna that will work in the 140 to 150 range for a ham repeater ? If this is not the best antenna for under $ 1000 then what other opinions are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static?

2004-11-17 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- na6df [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not repeater related so much, but I thought the great minds here might know... One of my corporate bosses, a ham, is having his bridgestone tires generate static while they are rolling, interfering with AM radio reception. I know somebody used

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: [Repeater-Builder}GROL

2004-10-22 Thread Ralph Mowery
Many, if you do not think bare minimums are enough. I hire broadcast engineers for my company. We look real closely at licenses and certifications. While the FCC no longer requires the GROL for domestic broadcast, it is a definite plus on a resume. It shows the person has a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] need help securing schematic for PS.

2004-10-03 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Richard MI Ranta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks! I am hoping that someone might be able to help us. Our Astron RS-35M power supply died, and we can't find the schematic. Our E-mail going to Astron is being returned!!! Go here and look under Astron.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question about running two repeaters with one basic controller

2004-09-11 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Steve Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Soneone correct me if I'm wrong, but another thing to look out for is the fact that this setup might be deemed to be a station in auxillary operation. In part 97 if one of the repeaters is on a pair under 222.5 MHz you cannot control the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: db comparisons

2004-08-29 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Charles Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry, Doubling the antenna height does not always increase the gain. It does help in most cases but if the antenna's are line of sight it makes little or no difference. Charles Miller WD5EEH It is well established if the antennas are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: db compariisons

2004-08-29 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Al Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the old standard was 6 db per S unit., but then there really never has been a real standard for S units that anyone has followed. I hate it when someone mentions dB and Sunits at the same time. There is no standard for s units to dB.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] db comparisons

2004-08-28 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that's what the book says. However, I'm talking about someone out in a mobile environment where you have many other factors in play, including ambient road noise. Most people are hard pressed to be able to notice a 6 dB change under those

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Error

2004-05-11 Thread Ralph Mowery
Last time I was at Costco, could buy Norton Internet Security for $50 something with a $15 mail-in rebate. Neil Ken Arck wrote: At 11:37 AM 5/10/2004 -0600, you wrote: For further details see the attachment. ---Personally I think anyone who's connected to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-28 Thread Ralph Mowery
In fact, you'll actually be exceeding limits because that +/-5 Khz is TOTAL deviation-including CTCSS/DCS/whatever! And since the spec for CTCSS/DCS is +/-500 to 800 hz, and the spec for LTR signalling is +/-1Khz, voice deviation cannot exceed +/-4.5 Khz (4Khz for LTR). And the equipment is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duty Cycle

2004-04-20 Thread Ralph Mowery
- Original Message - From: dy3lmk143_13mhz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duty Cycle Transmitter and amplifier manufacturers usually specifies a duty cycle (i.e. 50W 100% duty cycle) on their

Re: [Repeater-Builder] old pageboy tone elements

2004-04-20 Thread Ralph Mowery
Does anyone have any use for the tone elements like the old Motorola Pageboy used before I toss about 100 or so of them ? They are part number TLN 67098. They are from about 300 to 500 hz in frequency. I think the suffix behind the TLN is 4 digits... 6709or 6708 You are correct. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duty Cycle

2004-04-20 Thread Ralph Mowery
I'm assuming you are talking about a Ham radio installation? The BUSIEST repeater around here *might* get 10% use during an average day, and that estimation is probably high (2.4 hours a day?). So the repeater doesn't have to be 100% duty cycle? It all depends on how long the

[Repeater-Builder] old pageboy tone elements

2004-04-19 Thread Ralph Mowery
Does anyone have any use for the tone elements like the old Motorola Pageboy used before I toss about 100 or so of them ? They are part number TLN 67098. They are from about 300 to 500 hz in frequency. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925?

2004-04-18 Thread Ralph Mowery
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925? There are two machines on the same tower on these frequencies with one antenna about 20 feet directly over the other. Each machine is putting out about 30 - 50 watts. Each machine plays fine by itself, but as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Reproduction

2004-04-13 Thread Ralph Mowery
Again, I think you're off base with your supposition. You want us to believe that PM is why we Pre-emp FM. That's simply not the case. This is not supported by anything I have ever seen or read, only by you. Not that I really care but look at this as to why PM was used for the FM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater control

2004-04-10 Thread Ralph Mowery
I'm not that familiar with the rules for repeaters on being able to shut them down (off). We have a 2 meter repeater that can be shut it down by a phone line. This gets very expensive after years though. Is it legal to just have a UHF ham receiver set up to shut off the repeater? YOu can

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater control

2004-04-10 Thread Ralph Mowery
- Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater control Alan, Yes. Part 97 Rules require that the Control Operator be able to shut down a repeater in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Reproduction

2004-04-09 Thread Ralph Mowery
My opinion here I study the exciter circuitry and determine for myself whether it is FM or PM ... Neil - WA6KLA That is one point that I was trying to make. It is difficult if not impossiable to tell if a transmitter is FM or PM while receiving a signal over the air. The only way

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Reproduction

2004-04-08 Thread Ralph Mowery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not call it what it is FM and PM ? Yup, I agree! Because if you ask John Q. Ham what his radio is, he will say FM regardless of whether it is really PM or not. Joe M. If you ask mr.john q ham , he won't know if it is am, fm,pm or ssb comming out

RE: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Ralph Mowery
The voltage at the tap point is about 7 volts, when keyed it drops to about .5 volts, just not enough to get it to key the controller. I looked for other sources in the radio, nothing would drop to zero volts. Try putting a small silicon diode or two in series with the wire. That should

RE: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Ralph Mowery
which I know works on my CSI Phone patch, connect (start) with a 10K resistor, the part I am lost at is the ground. When you say a pull down resistor, is this any different than a standard 1/2 watt resistor? I appreciate the input here, glad that someone is willing to help. You will see

RE: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown)

2004-03-21 Thread Ralph Mowery
-Original Message- From: ac0y5 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown) What does this toy look like? If itis what used to ba a King I may be able to help. I know how to program the

[Repeater-Builder]

2004-03-19 Thread Ralph Mowery
Does anyone have any info on a RELM Model LMV2548B ? This is a VHF transceiver. Google turns up almost nothing. Mostly interested in reprogramming in a few new frequencies. What program and interface is needed to reprogram it ? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Voltage in an Mpro Ge deskmate

2004-03-16 Thread Ralph Mowery
is it possible to actually read 1662 volts AC on a 600 volt digital meter by putting ground lead of meter on chassis , and the red one on pin 1 then pin 9 in the ET-60 TX strip , this doesnt seem possible to me bit i double checked my house current and it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexers using C02 bottles ?

2004-03-15 Thread Ralph Mowery
Has anyone ever tried this??? -Original Message- From: Chuck Kelsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:57 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexers using C02 bottles ? Use 'em. And fire extinguishers for 2 meters

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TX-RX Duplexer Tuning

2004-03-15 Thread Ralph Mowery
Come on now guys.show me a bloke who tuned his FIRST set of cavities with a QRP tx, a long bit of coax, a tunable rx with a vhf converter, and a second hand scope and I will show you some who could end up as a real engineer, understanding what he is doing. Remember...the Titanic was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shorten Tail SQ. on older Repeaters

2004-01-31 Thread Ralph Mowery
- Original Message - From: kf4vgx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:22 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shorten Tail SQ. on older Repeaters Send me those leftovers lol ! Yes I will have to look again i think the variable is set

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Z-Matcher adjustment

2004-01-27 Thread Ralph Mowery
Couldn't agree with you more. The important point is that you can't insert an SWR meter or wattmeter in the line to make adjustments and then take it out. The GE Z-match gives you the directional coupler which gives you a Why can't you take the swr meter out ? The Z-matcher is after the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Z-Matcher adjustment

2004-01-27 Thread Ralph Mowery
Because the meter and its cable's electrical length will change the tuning. You can read it at the antenna port of the duplexer if youre using one. This has already been covered in previous posts. 73,Lee I must be dense . From what I understand you have the transmitter (no tuning in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fuses on power cords

2004-01-08 Thread Ralph Mowery
My bet would be that the black wire fuse is there for positive ground vehicles, a vestige of times past. In that case, the black (negative) wire is hot, and you would need the fuse there. Bob U. AA6BT That is one reason, but the other is for the times you go directly to the battery with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fuses on power cords

2004-01-07 Thread Ralph Mowery
I'm caught in the middle of a couple of feuding technical experts on a probably trivial issue. Some Mobile radio power cords are fused on only the positive line. Others are fused on both lines. One's logic is you only need one fuse. The other maintains their communications shop lost all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater TVI Problem

2004-01-02 Thread Ralph Mowery
Rg-11 right to a box or set top equipment sounds good , but the weight of the coax will no doubt cause damage to VCR and televison F-connector inputs when they snap off due to the size and weight. Use quad shielded RG-6 and with the f-connectors installed correctly, will result in no RFI

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater TVI Problem

2004-01-01 Thread Ralph Mowery
My 2 meter link on my repeater is causing TVI. This happens only on cable ch 18 on Charter Cable here in Yakima, WA. Any one have any ideas? This is only on the houses, say with-in 1/2 mile. Sounds like the cable chanel 18 is using frequencies in the 2 meter band. Have everyone that is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diamond X-500 for repeater use?

2003-12-23 Thread Ralph Mowery
i compared it to a telex hy-gain 8 element vertically polarized of course... I dont remember the exact model number but it was the one with the delta match coax stub. I have probalby the same antenna up horizontal that I use for ssb on the low end of 2 meters. Don't remember the name either

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diamond X-500 for repeater use?

2003-12-22 Thread Ralph Mowery
I have 3 diamond hnaX510's and consistantly can reach about 75-100 miles in every direction with the antenna about 30 foot to the bottom of it, (roof mounted) I compared it to a 8 element beam and it was almost the same signal strength as the beam except it worked in all directions. Sounds

Re: [Repeater-Builder] + OR -45° or circular polarization

2003-12-21 Thread Ralph Mowery
I have seen cross polarized antennas used to receive links around a large city airport area, the theory is if the path is not consistent there is a larger capture area available. This will be an interesting one to follow, I think the coupling loss will become more like -7 to -9 db as it is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Repeater Preamp

2003-12-06 Thread Ralph Mowery
That's a hard question to answer. Some preselectors are based upon the physical package used for mobile duplexers, and may work just fine- but they are not flexible. I prefer to use an 8 inch bandpass cavity that I can tune for almost any selectivity and insertion loss that I want. If

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crystal alignment (how accurate is accurate)

2003-12-05 Thread Ralph Mowery
It never fails - pose a simple question, and you get a series of overly complicated answers involving expensive equipment. To calibrate a local frequency standard, one needs a short wave rx with an s meter (mechanical type), and a means of balancing the local standard signal level with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Passive repeaters

2003-12-04 Thread Ralph Mowery
I would say the repeater system preformance is not nearly as good at it could/should be. For the most part 9 miles should be a cake walk on a well done VHF system as long as the portables have min 4 watt output. I would first turn my attention back to the repeater and antenna system.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Stuff.....

2003-12-03 Thread Ralph Mowery
And Spectrum sucks-that's why they don't make repeaters any more. Spectrum doesn't? One of the locals here just bought one ... groan. -- Jim Neil - WA6KLA Here is a link to where you can find the new ones. As if anyone would want one. http://www.spectrumcoms.com/#Repeaters

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify an high Split master Pa ??

2003-11-25 Thread Ralph Mowery
hi, i install a pa on a Master 2 repeater Low Split Vhf of 105 watts output, i have try to balance de pa and when we begin to tune the 2 potentiometer for the matching of impedance of the natenna we hear a tone FROM the transmit audio of the Master 2. The duplexer ,6 cans Dodge is in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Static / desense problems

2003-11-12 Thread Ralph Mowery
Why do you believe that double shielded cable is necessary for an antenna run? What are you trying to keep the signal out of? Inter-cabling within the cabinet needs to be double shielded to prevent interaction between the TX and RX portions, but once those signals are merged at the

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