Re: [Repeater-Builder] 440 Repeater Project

2009-05-04 Thread Joe Montierth
How about KJ4LII? Should work OK. --- On Sun, 5/3/09, redleg_8 redle...@yahoo.com wrote: From: redleg_8 redle...@yahoo.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 440 Repeater Project To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 6:16 PM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex vs. Kenwood

2008-10-03 Thread Joe Montierth
Our club has 7 of the TK750 and two TK850 repeaters running on several different mountaintops, mostly medium RF intense. They have worked without any issues for a couple of years now. I don't know how they stack up against the vertex, but they seem well suited for what we are doing with them.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS highpass filter paper

2008-09-18 Thread Joe Montierth
Walter, that same chip could easily be built up on a small circuit board to give a 2175 notch, with a very sharp response. Could probably build one up for $20 or so. Joe --- On Thu, 9/18/08, ka1jfy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ka1jfy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS highpass filter paper

2008-09-18 Thread Joe Montierth
The filter we're talking about is sufficiently wide to accomodate any drift, and since the sampling is at a couple of hundred KHz, the filters are very simple. Joe --- On Thu, 9/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: air com

2008-09-16 Thread Joe Montierth
Apparently you've either been there or met Sid somewhere. Joe --- On Tue, 9/16/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: air com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 11:10 AM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS highpass filter paper

2008-09-14 Thread Joe Montierth
The best PL filter I ever saw was one I built out of a digital SCF design a couple of years ago. I realize that the paper is referencing commonly available products, but I wish someone would make this thing up for sale. Here is a link to the data sheet: http://www.mix-sig.com/Msi5data12.pdf

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS highpass filter paper

2008-09-14 Thread Joe Montierth
Don't know why that link won't open, I'll try it again without the http. www.mix-sig.com/Msi5data12.pdf --- On Sun, 9/14/08, Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS highpass filter paper To: Repeater-Builder

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-750 rptr.

2008-01-03 Thread Joe Montierth
Our club now owns six of the low split 750's and they work great. Wouldn't have anything else for the price. Joe --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, Although the K2 repeater is the obvious choice for covering the entire 2m band, the K1 version will probably tune down okay.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Transistor Switch

2007-12-06 Thread Joe Montierth
A TO220 PNP transistor configured as emitter follower will work for this. Tie the emitter of the new PNP to one fan terminal (the other goes to 12v), the collector to ground, and the base to the sinking point (open collector) of your controller. Any PNP transistor capable of an amp or more of

RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Receiver overload

2007-11-22 Thread Joe Montierth
An easy way to check for overload would be to install a HPF before the RX, this would greatly cut down the 104.9 signal. If you have a 2M/440 diplexer, like people use to split or combine antennas, that would probably work, at least for a test to prove or disprove this thought. Just connect

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF PA control line question

2007-11-18 Thread Joe Montierth
A couple of ideas: 1. Build a simple voltage regulator capable of the current you need for the controlled stage. I think about a couple of amps, but you could insert an ammeter and actually measure it. Set your radio to 1.5 watts and then set the voltage to whatever gives you the desired output.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Unknown VHF Repeater

2007-10-17 Thread Joe Montierth
Looks like a highband Motran repeater from about 1969 or so. All solid state, about 30 watts out. Something like C43MSY for a partial model number. What freq is it on now? Good RX, kinda of weird TX (by today's standard). Has three old style RF transistors in parallel to make the 30 watts out.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer isolation and receiver noise budget

2007-10-05 Thread Joe Montierth
I think you need to identify what your priorities for this project are. If it's not cost, then there are several ways to do this thing. It seems like your biggest concern might be physical size of the cavity package. If that is the case, what I would do would be to get a repeater pair in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New file uploaded to Repeater-Builder

2007-04-19 Thread Joe Montierth
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4/17/2007 22:57, you wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Repeater-Builder group. File: /dual_level_sq.pdf Uploaded by : skyislandpage [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] mc-3357 mc-3359 squelch circuit

2007-04-17 Thread Joe Montierth
A few years ago I designed a dual level squelch circuit that could be a replacement for the Micor type carrier squelch. I built a couple of the prototypes and put them into service, and they worked very well, you really couldn't tell them from the real thing. They were designed around readily

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DC Power Supply Test Load

2007-03-05 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I wonder how in the World did I get a Ham Radio Lic , 25 Yrs ago , Anyway here is what I need Help on I bought a 40 Amp Power Adjustable Power supply with Volt and Amp Meters , I would like to make something to test it Before putting it on a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS Dual Junction isolators High Band

2007-02-22 Thread Joe Montierth
I am interested, sent you a PM. --- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 4 pcs Antenna Specialists (remember them?) ACJ-2401 J2 dual junction isolators. They don't like to tune down to the ham bands so not of use to me. They came from a VHF tx combiner. Pictures upon request (or they

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Barry C' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the ASPB602 is four stacked dipoles, just like the DB224. My point again is that resonance is NOT a requirement for an effective and efficient antenna. The wider frequency coverage for this antenna is likely because the dipoles are

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-15 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Barry C' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laryn Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:04:02 - ---

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2

2007-01-24 Thread Joe Montierth
There is a place in the programming where you can make the TA audio flat. I will try to find where it is in the programming, and let you know here. Joe --- Yahoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the TA remains hot but I need flat audio. I can call Kenwood tomorrow but was hoping to finish this

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Battery backup

2007-01-09 Thread Joe Montierth
The simplest way is just to get the IOTA supply and float it across the battery. Thats it, nothing else needed. Get an IOTA big enough to power whatever you have, and still have some left over for charging. You don't need (or want) diodes, resistors, or relays. It shouldn't be that easy, but in

[Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today

2006-12-15 Thread Joe Montierth
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today

2006-12-15 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Dave Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date? New rules will

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

2006-12-14 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Mike Perryman wrote: I have no idea about a tube version... but I have a Micor 75W solid state PA for 800 if you are interested lemme know.. Not really. What I'm thinking is that a tube-type PA would have less noise

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two CTCSS Tones out of One TX

2006-04-22 Thread Joe Montierth
Hi All, I am wanting to use one TX from our repeater site, to link to two link RX's, these are on opposite sides of the repeater. I was thinking about having two different CTCSS tones, one for each, and then having the TX generate the two tones together. This way I can use

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MIcor P.A. Woes.

2006-02-19 Thread Joe Montierth
--- John Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to the group. My friend and I have a 75 Micor station on UHF that I was trying to resurrect to donate to a young local ham that has a UHF machine that needs to be replaced. The station in question was already in the ham bands, 444.xxx

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gurus?

2006-01-18 Thread Joe Montierth
Because of the frequency band, and the size of the antennas, the spacing may have to be several wavelenghts. Remember at this frequency a wavelength is about 4 inches, and spacing is measured center to center. I think you would be better off just getting a panel antenna with 12 dBi of gain and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MICOR the meaning of it.....

2006-01-04 Thread Joe Montierth
Then MOTRAC must stand for More Old Tubes, Reeds, And Crap :) Joe --- Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was recently introduced to a Gentleman by the name of Robert Swoger, K9WVY. Bob was in the original MICOR Mobile design team from 1969 on. He was at Motorola from 1965 until

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two-Tone Sequential Coding Standard

2005-12-05 Thread Joe Montierth
The frequency stamped on the tone has nothing to do with the tolerence range of it. PL tones are stamped to .1 Hz, but will generally work +- 1% or so, and are spaced at 3-4% intervals. This is probably a similiar tolerence, given the fact that PL and 2 tone come from the same era and started by

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two Tone Sequential Paging

2005-11-27 Thread Joe Montierth
Pretty loose, I'd say about +- 1% would still work. Thats about all the tolerance they could get with mass produced reeds. Even more might work, but they definately don't have to be dead on. Joe --- dallasreact112 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does anybody in group know the frequncy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Id'er programming

2005-11-22 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does any one have the proceedure for programming the GLB ID chips.. I believe its just a 2713. I have the programmer but need help with the code. Dave N3CNJ The GLB ID'er used a 2716 eprom. The way it was programmed was to start at address 0 and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Solar Panel Question

2005-11-12 Thread Joe Montierth
If the panels are isolated by a diode, it shouldn't matter if they are different makes/models/sizes etc. as long as their open circuit output voltages are somewhat above that required by the regulator. The simplest VR for a panel would be a high power zener diode (or equivalent). The zener would

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Combining questions

2005-08-04 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Alright, educate me on this a little bit. I know of a few sights with ham repeaters, but they are combined with commercial stuff. How is that done? I mean, I know they use combiners, but do they really make some antennas that are tuned

Re: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Switched Power Supply and Noise?

2005-07-19 Thread Joe Montierth
Dave's points are good, I'd like to point out a couple of other things. We have used Astron supplies for years, and overall have been happy with them. There are some drawbacks, mainly the analog design is very wasteful of power, and the units get very warm (hot). I have done some measurements,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Switched Power Supply and Noise?

2005-07-19 Thread Joe Montierth
The easiest way to tell would be to measure the AC current draw in idle. Then measure the DC current draw in idle. You can get a pretty close watt figure by multiplying the amps times the voltage (115v) on the input side, and doing the same thing on the DC side. The difference between the two is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Switched Power Supply and Noise?

2005-07-19 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did this at a friend house and we ended up with about 20 plugged into a half-dozen power strips and totalling about 2 and a half amps of AC... He's got 112-114v of AC at his house so using 113 we get 255.2w ... divide by 1000 and times

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Joe Montierth
http://www.jars.net/ This shows a picture of the car, and the text of the law. From what I read, the car doesn't meet the criterion because it has no lights. Also, the use of the car must be with the intent to impersonate a police officer. I don't know what this guy was doing when he was stopped

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor (mobile) spur

2005-07-02 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul 910 Kc is twice the 455 Kc IF. Possibly there is a clue here. Motorola had problems with spurs in the Metrum VHF ham transceiver. It also used one crystal for both transmit and receive. I guess that this is a good data point as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF/UHF Mobile Question

2005-06-30 Thread Joe Montierth
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Can a VHF Micor mobile use an UHF Micor RX'er in a direct swap out? Or to say it a different way, I want an UHF RX'er in a VHF Micor. They appear to be a direct swap out, but are there any pitfalls? They both use their own channel elements,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] best radios for 2 meter repeater

2005-05-27 Thread Joe Montierth
We have been using the TKR-750's for a couple of years with good results. They are rated at 50 watts intermittant, or 25 continuous. We run ours at about 30 watts with no problems, not quite the 40 you were asking for, but close. Joe --- BOB UNICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea yet me know how it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] IOTA Switched Power Supply and Noise?

2005-05-25 Thread Joe Montierth
I have one of the 75 amp supplies working at a remote site. We have not seen any noise from the unit, but our equipment is all VHF and UHF, haven't checked it down in HF, but at UHF we have seen no problems. We have 20 UHF RX's and 6 VHF and have not seen any degradation. These IOTA's run much

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re DB224

2005-05-25 Thread Joe Montierth
--- wa9ba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We put a DB 224 up after loosing 2 Diamond 510 antennas and a station master to lightning about 5 years ago. One of the advantages of a four-bay dipole antenna over a fiberglass vertical of similar gain is that the vertical bandwidth is remarkably

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 4 identical UHF receiver's in the 430 Mhz Range

2005-05-16 Thread Joe Montierth
--- DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about speaking FCC rules, but Auxilliary use (Link Radios) is only allowed above 222.5 MHz. I think you missed the point of the UHF to lo-band downconverter. The lo-band radios would only be used as IF and demod. Joe Yahoo! Mail

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MSY

2005-05-15 Thread Joe Montierth
Our club just removed from service an MSY station. It is minus the tube PA, so is probably only 10 watts or so. RX and TX were working fine when removed, currently on 447.825 TX, 442.825RX. We were running it on external power, so no idea if the PS is working, but it's there. Was using external

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor mobile transmitter

2005-05-11 Thread Joe Montierth
I have not done this on a 420 Micor, but I have on a 450 Micor, which is essentially the same. As Neil pointed out, all the interstage coupling is done at 50 ohms, so you only need to decide how much power you need, and modify accordingly. The controlled stage will put out 2 to 7 watts, if you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6dB - 10W attenuator

2005-05-10 Thread Joe Montierth
http://www.tessco.com/products/getProductInfo.do?sku=12628 Joe --- n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK... I'm needing one of these animals. Of course, I'd prefer to have one out of the box as opposed to trying to fabricate one out of a number of feet of coax, both for esthetics as well

Re: [Repeater-Builder] I need to take 5 volts to 8 volts, and one have a schematic

2005-05-03 Thread Joe Montierth
--- w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if anyone has a simple diagram to build a small circuit from 5 volts to about 8 volts. Was told I could use an opto isolator, but am not familiar with them. I'm getting ready to interface the Kenwood TM- V7 radios to the RVS-8 voter, am told it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] I need to take 5 volts to 8 volts, and one have a schematic

2005-05-03 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But this begs another question: why does the RVS-8 require such a high COS voltage? I don't think I own a radio that supplies that much voltage on COS, nor have a ever used a controller that required 8 volts of COS voltage. Bob NO6B The

RE: [Repeater-Builder] voting receivers with simulcast transmitters

2005-05-03 Thread Joe Montierth
The killer on these simulcast systems is in the overlap areas. If the transmitters are only a few miles apart, you could see some real problems, since most everywhere is an overlap area. A rule of thumb is that a simulcast system will never sound as good as a non-simulcast system in the overlap

Re: [Repeater-Builder] astron rs50

2005-04-08 Thread Joe Montierth
Yes, that will work just fine. Make sure you put in fuses, and set the current limit down somewhat if you are feeding a big battery bank. Joe --- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on the repeater builder website there is a mod for the astron rs35 where you go into it and cut a trace then

Re: [Repeater-Builder] astron rs50

2005-04-08 Thread Joe Montierth
500 AH would be large. --- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you consider large??? I have 3 25ah gel cells - Original Message - From: Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder

Re: [Repeater-Builder] astron rs50

2005-04-08 Thread Joe Montierth
Whatever you got. .25 watt or bigger is OK. Joe --- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what wattage 1k pot to parallel r4 - Original Message - From: Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Astron parts

2005-03-31 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Jeff Corkren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the best place (other than Astron) to purchase 2N3771 pass transistors for a Astron power supply ? Anybody had luck using subs ? If so what part number ? Thanks ! Jeff Corkren/W5PPB Raymond, Mississippi Go here and search for 2N3771 :

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola welded rod yagis

2005-03-29 Thread Joe Montierth
Check this out and see if it is the antenna you're referring to: http://www.rfsworld.com/RFSGlobal/datasheet.asp?PN=688S%2D1FAM=BaseStationAntennas IIRC, years ago, PD made the antennas for Motorola. I know this unit looks just like a Mot antenna I have. Joe --- wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] want to trade 450 Vertex for a lo-band vertex

2005-03-23 Thread Joe Montierth
--- na6df [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If any one is interested, I could use a 42-50 mhz vertex. Older ftl- 1011 is OK, 4 channels plenty. For swap I have a nice condition Vertex VX-2000 with bracket, mic, power cord in good shape. Would also consider a radius or maxtrac, as long as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: portable/mobile GMRS repeater antenna

2005-03-12 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Laryn Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Al Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always thought good quality RG-8X was an oxymoron. use good quality RG-8X type cable for Al, K9SI Right Al, an oxymoron especially when used

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: portable/mobile GMRS repeater antenna

2005-03-11 Thread Joe Montierth
Something you might look at would be one of the lightweight fiberglass base station antennas made by Antennex, Maxrad, etc. These only weigh about 4 or 5 pounds, you could also get several 6ft sections of telescopic aluminum tubing to support it, much less weight and size than the TV masting. For

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-08 Thread Joe Montierth
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1st off that was not a put down! I will not blow my on horn but I can say if it works for you then use it. BUT! It is not how antenna physics work. Just think how much better a system will work when we do not try to change the laws and rules of antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-08 Thread Joe Montierth
happen. Mike K1EG - Original Message - From: Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1st off that was not a put

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PART 95 Type Accepted (putting me to sleep)

2005-03-05 Thread Joe Montierth
--- skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would hope Kevin would let the discussion continue, as it is of VITAL importance to anyone putting a non-ham repeater on the air. ..zzz..! Sorry, I was snoring. skipp :-) Thats the way I am

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can you hear 3db?

2005-02-11 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mch wrote: Actually, 3 dB is the point at which you can first notice a change in the signal. As far as whether it is worth it is up to the individual. If a signal is 'fine', lowering it 3dB should not make it unusable. The change should be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] simple tone decoder

2005-01-12 Thread Joe Montierth
There is probably no easier and cheaper way to do it than a 567 chip. This will give you a logic low, or pull to ground when it decodes. If you are having a hard time making it work, double check your circuit layout, make sure the device is good, etc. The 567 is easy to align and fun to play

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memories...1959 Chrysler Saratoga Police special,426 Hemi,push button automatic w/mechanical overdrive lever.Motorola tube radio on 37mhz,Speedo went to 160,certified. BIG gas tank...lousy mileage! Engine still lives in buddys rail dragster... I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Outlet for RG214/U

2004-12-30 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might have the number wrong, but refereing to LMR-400, we've done been down that road, but the RG-400, isn't that one just as close to RG-214/U? Mathew No, no, no. Not even close. RG-214/U and LMR-400 are two entirely different

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-30 Thread Joe Montierth
Here's what you can do if both radios are transformerless and have a single hot side and a ground side. This will not work if both speaker leads are hot, this will only work if the speaker amp goes through a big capacitor then to the speaker, the other side grounded: Wire the hot side of each

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moto GM300 - Deviation Control vs Limiting

2004-12-27 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last shop I worked for supplied 50-60 or more TK350's to a local mfg plant, using MII's and later TKR-820's, with one RCA 1000 rptr for a while. There was never any problem like you're describing. But looking at my book, you're right. Tone is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moto GM300 - Deviation Control vs Limiting

2004-12-26 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like the GM300's design, which mixes in the PL modulation after the voice audio limiter, thereby eliminating one of the major causes of repeater talk-off due to CTCSS tone compression. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY I think all the radio

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moto GM300 - Deviation Control vs Limiting

2004-12-25 Thread Joe Montierth
--- mbloom0947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Moto GM300 has a software programmable deviation level with the software setting from 0 to 55 on an arbitrary scale. I thought that by lowering the deviation level I would see limiting in the deviation level given the same microphone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Did measurement of inductors change???

2004-12-24 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JOHN MACKEY wrote: ... snip ... sort of like when capacitor measurements changed from uuF to pF) 35-40 years ago? I was doing this search late last night. Today, a little more fresh, I'll go back to work look at

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Did measurement of inductors change???

2004-12-23 Thread Joe Montierth
--- JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to build a filter and it requires I have a few chokes of 2.2 mH value. So I look in the Newark Allied catalogs and all the chokes I am seeing are labeled µH (a u with a tail on the left) rather than mH Was I asleep for a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager tr

2004-12-22 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on...someone please say it...Most all radios built for FM use on commertial and or amature bands are designed for a MAXIMUM of +-5Kc deviation, period! Most receivers are built for +-7.5 Kc band width. What is to be gained from running

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager tr

2004-12-22 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This post is about as relavent as the others. RELEVANT YOU IDIOT! __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com Yahoo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2865

2004-12-22 Thread Joe Montierth
It's not the 600 KHz that is the problem. The problem is that the paging transmitters are spaced the same as the TX/RX spacing on 2M, thus creating the possiblity of a third-order mix. Here is what is happening, mathematically: 146.94 + 152.24 - 152.84 = 146.34 When all the transmitters are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2865

2004-12-22 Thread Joe Montierth
--- mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's mixing in the receiver or transmitter, notching one of the offending signals may help (such as a notch cavity on 152.240 or 152.840 MHz). Of course, it could be mixing in a number of other places, too. Joe M. The first place to look is to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciter in duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread Joe Montierth
The frequency stability of any transmitter is only as good as it's reference oscillator (be that a PLL or a multiplied crystal)- dividing or multiplying the frequency will not change that constant (in PPM). It doesn't matter if you use a 100KHz, 1MHz, 10MHz or 100MHz reference frequency, if they

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MASTR II mobile conversion question

2004-12-18 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the finger printing software out now, yes, by looking at the display or printed data, the individual radio can be identified. I do not mean that they can tell the difference between a MICOR and a MASTR. That is easy. They can

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MASTR II mobile conversion question

2004-12-16 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathew Quaife wrote: I generally don't get involved in online dicussions such as this, but I will have to concur on what Russ said, as I personally called the FCC field office about this matter about five months ago, and what I was told is that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?

2004-12-05 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Gregg R. Lengling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using tones below 60 Hz usually doesn't work for 2 reasons. #1 reason is that the transmitter will not reproduce that low of a tone without distortion and overdrivingand the receiver audio won't recover it. #2 the lower the frequency the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OK, back to a tech question?

2004-12-03 Thread Joe Montierth
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We all know what carrier squelch is so I won't go there. CTCSS (Private line) is also well known. Now most newer ham gear has DCS CTCSS. My question is about DPL, is this compatabile with DCS? If so will DCS do inverted code like DPL? Lastly

Re: [Repeater-Builder] T1507 Duplexer - Bandpass Only Vs. Bp-Br

2004-11-04 Thread Joe Montierth
55 dB should be adequate isolation for a repeater, unless you are running a high gain pre-amp and/or high power. These duplexers are better in most ways than the BP/BR type because they provide better isolation at most frequencies further removed from the TX/RX. A small spur on your TX that is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod problem?

2004-10-03 Thread Joe Montierth
The isolator might fix the problem. The second harmonic of the 146.7 is 293.4. If you subtract 147.3, it comes up right on your input, 146.1.(Classic 2A-B intermod) Same thing is going on with the other freqs. Could also be mixing in your RX, or about any other non-linear spot between the two

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 external controller hookup

2004-09-30 Thread Joe Montierth
I have hooked up several TK-750, which I think are the same audio-wise as the 850. The TD and RD ports are flat audio (discriminator and modulator type), and the TA and RA ports are emphasised (mike and speaker type audio). The TA and RA are HP filtered to eliminate PL. Choose whichever one

Re: [Repeater-Builder] BIG battery Astron current limit

2004-09-27 Thread Joe Montierth
of additional comments presented by Joe Montierth One, the 10K resistor can be 1/4 watt or even 1/8 watt, the 1/2 watt is overkill. There is not much voltage across it to generate any heat. Two, depending on the size battery it is attached to, you might want

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control

2004-09-21 Thread Joe Montierth
97.213 and 97.201 213 tells how stations can be remotely controlled (telcommand), and that if done by radio, you must use an auxilliary station. 201 tells what an aux station is, and the freqs that they can use. Joe --- wa9ba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At a recent meeting buying or building a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 UHF receivers, one antenna

2004-09-06 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Kevin Berlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the weekend, I added a second UHF control receiver at one of the sites I take care of. The control RX antenna is up about 150ft. Previous to adding the new RX, I could easily access the first RX about 25 miles out. Since adding the second

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor squelch chip

2004-08-02 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Steve Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does anyone have design specifics (especially with regard to the high pass filter corner frequency, and passband-to-stopband attenuation of the high pass filter) of the M7716 Micor Squelch chip? Since the M7716 chip is no longer

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Omnidirectional antenna into 2m band

2004-07-23 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer Industrial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee, when did unity become equal to -0- ??? (Unity Gain - A gain of one. That is, the signal is output from a circuit at the same level at which it entered.) From ;

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Repeater Info Wanted

2004-07-12 Thread Joe Montierth
There is no separate certification issued under part 90 or 95 for a repeater. A radio is certified for a certain service (part 90 or 95 or both). This radio can be used as a mobile, base, repeater, portable, etc, providing it meets the criterion for that application in it's particular service.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Repeater Info Wanted

2004-07-12 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An air conditioned room is nice but the radio must type accepted for the 0.00025% tolerance and so indicated on it's label. Neil No, the rules only require that you maintain your transmitter within 2.5 PPM, there is no rule that you must

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Repeater Info Wanted

2004-07-12 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are wrong,it is illegal. Doesnt mean all those people were right,that doesnt make it legal. They just havent been caught yet... Please cite the FCC rule that would make this illegal, I have read and re-read the rules for years now, and have yet to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Repeater Info Wanted

2004-07-12 Thread Joe Montierth
If anyone wants to continue this topic, you can bring it over to a BBS that I moderate, dealing with GMRS. http://www.popularwireless.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi Go down to the GMRS forum and start a topic about repeater requirements or whatever. There are lots of licensed, seasoned operators on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-12 Thread Joe Montierth
- Original Message - From: Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts Ideas --- Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Niel, actually I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Joe Montierth
--- w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need some input on this, what others think. I am trying to pull all the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the transmitter. I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp to the repeater. What are some thoughts on this. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: UHF MICOR 12W PA Deck

2004-06-09 Thread Joe Montierth
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe - thanks for the info. This particular MICOR UHF Repeater I just picked up came without a PA deck at all (someone else beat me to it), so since I was looking for one, I decided to try to find a lower power one than the usual 75 watt ones

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: UHF MICOR 12W PA Deck

2004-06-09 Thread Joe Montierth
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a MICOR UHF Repeater/Base Station 12-Watt 450-470 MHz PA Deck, Motorola # TLE1683A. I have one of the 2-watt versions of this PA, which is just about identical except that there is an attenuator that drops the output power from

Re: [Repeater-Builder] SQ-1000 vs RLC-MOT Squelch

2004-06-04 Thread Joe Montierth
Have you ever measured the short squelch tail length of your circuit? I think the Micor squelch is around 2-3 milliseconds, while the Mastr II/modified MVP short squelch measures around 6 milliseconds. I believe the SQ-1000 is spec'd for 20 milliseconds release time with a full

Re: [Repeater-Builder] SQ-1000 vs RLC-MOT Squelch

2004-06-03 Thread Joe Montierth
Scott Zimmerman and I have been working on an analogue replica of the Micor Squelch for some time (several years). Since the Micor Squelch chip is still available we haven't spent any serious time perfecting it. Some day the Micor Squelch chip will be hard to come by, and we'll

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sharing a receive site

2004-06-01 Thread Joe Montierth
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all -- I am on the technical committee of an amateur repeater club. A club in the next county has approached us to ask about sharing one of our 2m receive sites with them. It's a commercial site and we are there at the pleasure of the owner, who is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FBI Release: Suspect Photos- REQUEST Assistance

2004-05-28 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Micheal Salem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Montierth wrote: What I would like to know is what law or rule is being broken by taping conversations heard on non-telephone type channels? Anyone have a citation, or is this just urban legend? I know it used

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FBI Release: Suspect Photos- REQUEST Assistance

2004-05-28 Thread Joe Montierth
Here's another link to a court case where a federal judge determined that it would not be illegal to divulge the contents of most radio transmissions. In part it reads thusly: Chapter 119 generally prohibits the interception of any oral or electronic communication, which, by definition, includes

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