Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-11 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 12:18, Russell Gold wrote: > Is there currently a policy for how long files are kept in the > repository? It seems to me that old versions are not kept very long at > ibiblio, if there are newer versions available. I am not sure if you are talking about the Transit clien

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-11 Thread Russell Gold
Is there currently a policy for how long files are kept in the repository? It seems to me that old versions are not kept very long at ibiblio, if there are newer versions available.

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-07 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 06 January 2005 09:21, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > How do you get around the problem that it is very difficult to get a > url handler installed? Does this library work only when it is > installed into the system class path? That is corrrect. The "issue" is in the java.net.URL handling, wh

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-07 Thread Leo Simons
Hi gang, On 05-01-2005 09:39, "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What relationship does the repository list have with Maven? > What relationship does Maven have with the repository list? > > Ass Brett Porter has written, and I agree: > " > 1) Maven PMC takes ownership for getting t

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-07 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 06 January 2005 18:57, Leo Simons wrote: > Maven has support, ant will have support, magic (from the DPML guys) has > support, several ant-based scripts are around that provide support. Any > tool that can HTTP GET can trivially be made to get files from the > repository. For example I

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-07 Thread Dain Sundstrom
How do you get around the problem that it is very difficult to get a url handler installed? Does this library work only when it is installed into the system class path? -dain -- Dain Sundstrom Chief Architect Gluecode Software 310.536.8355, ext. 26 On Jan 5, 2005, at 1:21 AM, Niclas Hedhman wro

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-06 Thread Steve Loughran
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:21:03 +0800, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 16:39, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > The Depot project SVN > > is still there, ready to be used if/when needed by the Maven project. > > From the Magic project we have spun off what we call

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-06 Thread Steve Loughran
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 06:43:34 +1100, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:24:13 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is Maven willing to provide suitable support for Ant to use it? I just want > > to make sure that this is not the Maven repository, but is

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 16:39, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > The Depot project SVN > is still there, ready to be used if/when needed by the Maven project. >From the Magic project we have spun off what we call Transit, which provides a simple, flexible and powerful solution to artifact manageme

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Brett Porter
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:24:13 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is Maven willing to provide suitable support for Ant to use it? I just want > to make sure that this is not the Maven repository, but is THE repository. > Tool-agnostic. Yes - I've already discussed this and Steve and

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Brett Porter
> Why not something like: > > ... > > > > > > In Maven 1.0, there is a maven.repo.remote property that allows you to select what repositories to search on a per-project basis. Maven 1.1 wil

RE: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> IMO we should [make] the Maven artifact handling better > and used by all Apache and non-Apache projects. Is Maven willing to provide suitable support for Ant to use it? I just want to make sure that this is not the Maven repository, but is THE repository. Tool-agnostic. --- Noel

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Russell Gold
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:13:16 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mean, instead of: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not something l

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Russell Gold wrote: On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:04:17 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I kinda disagree. Eclipse 'forces' you to enter the http of the repository from which you can get a plugin, and AFAIK it has not become (yet?) unwieldy. Plugins are not the same as dependencies.

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Russell Gold
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:04:17 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I kinda disagree. Eclipse 'forces' you to enter the http of the > repository from which you can get a plugin, and AFAIK it has not become > (yet?) unwieldy. Plugins are not the same as dependencies. Each user selec

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Tim O'Brien wrote: From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... This is something that is already present in the JJar[1] project. Wouldn't it suffice to just tell the system in what repository to look for to get a certain artifact? Sure, you could do this, but then you get into the pr

RE: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Tim O'Brien
> -Original Message- > From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Maven and [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Tim O'Brien wrote: > > What about having an XML description of the contents of a > repository

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Brett Porter wrote: ... What interests me WRT repository is that it's possible for Ant users to install an antlib that makes Wagon usable in Ant, and for Eclipse and Netbeans users to be able to integrate it nicely in their artifact stuff. Depot had an Eclipse pluin BTW. Can you elaborate on how it

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Tim O'Brien wrote: What about having an XML description of the contents of a repository? Such a description could serve multiple purposes, it could be used to enumerate known mirrors, it could be used to segment the "namespace" - say we reach some agreement with Sun and all sun artifacts fall in

RE: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Tim O'Brien
What about having an XML description of the contents of a repository? Such a description could serve multiple purposes, it could be used to enumerate known mirrors, it could be used to segment the "namespace" - say we reach some agreement with Sun and all sun artifacts fall into a namespace of s

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Loughran
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 23:42:30 +1100, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JAR signing needs retrofitting to existing files, but has > > the advantage that JVMs integrate with it and you can do other tricks > > (like put http://ibiblio.org.../artifact.jar on the classpath with > > security turn

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Brett Porter
> I'll be the Ant rep. Great, thanks. > I am co-author of the (still stabilising) Ant task; it'd yeah, I've got to 50 mail threads sitting flagged in gmail to read one day, as this is about the extent of what I know about it :) (after you introduced it to repository@ last year) > 1. security.

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Steve Loughran
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:39:28 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) Henk, myself (Maven PMC), Mark Diggory (if available), representative > from interested Apache projects PMC (most likely someone from Ant) get > together to sort out exactly what we think needs doing (we can use

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Brett Porter
putting repository@ back on the list - gmail tends to drop lists unless you reply to all (hope this is what you intended). > Seems a reasonable first step. However it seems a little fragile if a > project changes artifact names or splits an existing artifact. e.g. if > commons-jelly splits into je

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Brett Porter
> Take the commons-jelly/ directories on ibiblio and place them in a > similar structure as an example. org/apache/commons/jelly/commons-jelly/1.0/commons-jelly-1.0.jar[.md5|.asc], etc org/apache/commons/jelly/commons-jelly-tags-ant/1.0/commons-jelly-1.0.jar org/apache/commons/jelly/commons-jelly

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Dion Gillard
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:14:27 +1100, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Firstly, can I check who is still actively involved here other than > Nicola, Mark and myself? I'm lurking. > http://docs.codehaus.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=8003 > From what I remember, it takes into acc

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Brett Porter
> Ant is adding a task so that providers can plug into it, and Wagon can > continue to be used in Ant. Absolutely - all I meant was that Wagon maintaining its own Ant task was probably not necessary given that. Wagon can plugin in to that. > If we splinter implementations, the repository effort w

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Brett Porter wrote: ... Wagon's scope is really only transport though - uploading and downloading through a variety of providers with a common Java API (there was also an Ant task at one point - though since Ant have developed their own there is little point in updating the wagon one). I disagree h

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Brett Porter
Hi, Firstly, can I check who is still actively involved here other than Nicola, Mark and myself? Continuing on what was started in this thread: > I'd add that to use a common repository, there needs an implementation > for all projects to use. It's easy, correct and resonable to think that > it

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Brett Porter wrote: > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Ass Brett Porter has written, and I agree: I hope the extra s was a slip up :) Sorry :-/ -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) -

Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 05 January 2005 16:39, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: The Depot project SVN is still there, ready to be used if/when needed by the Maven project. From the Magic project we have spun off what we call Transit, which provides a simple, flexible and powerful solution to