Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD
On 17 May 2012 09:10, Gary G. wrote: > How do you attach anything to this Listserv? Actually is it a Listserv or > an NNTP server? If you use gmame to read and post to this mailing list, I don't see any obvious way to attach files through their simple web interface. As Chris C. said, you can subscribe (using one of your email addresses). It may be better to use a separate email address (a throw-away-able account) other than your personal email accounts for friends and family. Several Rosegarden mailing lists are at: http://rosegardenmusic.com/support/lists/ this particular mailing list is the "User list". Once you subscribed to it with your email, any email addressed to rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net is a post to the mailing list. You can attach files to such emails if needed. Jimmy -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD
On 17 May 2012 09:10, Gary G. wrote: > How do you attach anything to this Listserv? Actually is it a Listserv or > an NNTP server? It's a mailing list, i.e. like a listserv though not actually running listserv software. http://rosegardenmusic.com/support/lists/ Gmane provides a web interface and NNTP interface for a number of mailing lists, including ours -- we don't particularly support or endorse them, but the interface can be useful for some. If you don't like Gmane, subscribe to the list directly via email instead. Subscription details can be found through the page above. Chris -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD
jimmy writes: > > > > Post and attach tar/zip copy of those files to this mailing list, so other people can help out, or learn by fumble-around on their own if they want. It's Rosegarden related, so it's not off-topic on this list. > > Jimmy How do you attach anything to this Listserv? Actually is it a Listserv or an NNTP server? The web interface has no attachment button and the faq mentions nothing about attachments. Also could you trim your word wrap to 80 chars please? The crappy gmane editor bitches about including your quotes until I fix them manually. Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD
> Gary G. wrote: > > Actually I just checked and that script is still included in > the current > rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under > /scripts/. > > Here are some instructions on how to use it: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102 > > If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't > changed since 2005 , > then the script should still work fine. > Here's getting it from the Rosegarden source-code repository: https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden/ https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden/scripts/ https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden/scripts/ins2rgd.pl I'm not a Perl guru, but can fumble around if need to. If you have problem running the script to convert certain .INS file(s), I can probably help take a look at a couple of those if I can find the time, first come first serve -- no guarrantee what-so-ever. But first, run the script if you can, capture the errors, and the resulting output file. Post and attach tar/zip copy of those files to this mailing list, so other people can help out, or learn by fumble-around on their own if they want. It's Rosegarden related, so it's not off-topic on this list. Jimmy -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Andy writes: > > >david wrote: > You should do a bug report on the bug reporting system of your distro (Ubuntu > / Debian) asking the distro packagers to include this script in the next > package update. > > The script is quite hidden as all other scripts in the /scripts/ directory in > the source code appear to be build or development related (of no use to normal > users), so I imagine the packagers never noticed this script. > > I will certainly include this script in the next update of my Redhat / Centos > / SL Rosegarden package. I run Kubuntu 12.04 with the KXstudio multimedia extensions and Rosegarden 11.11.42 from whatever repo KXstudio installed when it was installed. http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Main_Page While this is an excellent environment for sequencing MIDI, it becomes such a bastardized distro to maintain that I wouldn't have the first clue whom to approach with such a suggestion. My thinking is that the Rosegarden Developers should change the initial package so that the script is placed in ~/.local/share/rosegarden/library right alongside the RGD files with a README at compile time as a standard compile/make option. If any user is dealing with RGD issues, that would be the very first place they'd look and they wouldn't have to worry about root permissions if they are limited users on the system. Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
>david wrote: >> On 05/15/2012 09:31 PM, Gary G. wrote: >> The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs. >> 99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros. I can >> state categorically that there is no such script included with the >> *buntu distros out there. > > I use 11.11.42 installed from Debian Sid repository, and there's no such > script on my system, either. Sounds like the package maintainer isn't > including them, or maybe you need to have the -src package installed, too? > You should do a bug report on the bug reporting system of your distro (Ubuntu / Debian) asking the distro packagers to include this script in the next package update. The script is quite hidden as all other scripts in the /scripts/ directory in the source code appear to be build or development related (of no use to normal users), so I imagine the packagers never noticed this script. I will certainly include this script in the next update of my Redhat / Centos / SL Rosegarden package. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
On 05/15/2012 09:31 PM, Gary G. wrote: > Andy writes: > >> >> Gary G. wrote: >>> >>> It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been >>> developing such a script. >>> >>> A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this >>> problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl Somehow it seems the project >>> simply vanished or lost interest. >> >> Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current >> rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/. >> >> Here are some instructions on how to use it: >> >> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102 >> >> If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 , >> then the script should still work fine. >> >> Let us know how you get on with it. > > The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs. > 99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros. I can > state categorically that there is no such script included with the > *buntu distros out there. I use 11.11.42 installed from Debian Sid repository, and there's no such script on my system, either. Sounds like the package maintainer isn't including them, or maybe you need to have the -src package installed, too? -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Andy writes: > > Gary G. wrote: > > > > It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been > > developing such a script. > > > > A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this > > problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl Somehow it seems the project > > simply vanished or lost interest. > > Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current > rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/. > > Here are some instructions on how to use it: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102 > > If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 , > then the script should still work fine. > > Let us know how you get on with it. The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs. 99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros. I can state categorically that there is no such script included with the *buntu distros out there. The command line syntax is listed within the comments of the script itself. Anyway, neither here nor there, it seems to work ok with the program patches and controllers but seems to have trouble interpreting the combi patches on my Korg TR. It's not a perfect solution but at least it's a working one. I had to do some minor tweaking in the Rosegarden RGD editor but I did manage to at least get the program patches working. BTW, the Cakewalk/Sonar INS file is based on the MIDI standard and hasn't really changed in the past 20 years or so, Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Gary G. wrote: > > It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been > developing such a script. > > A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this > problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl Somehow it seems the project > simply vanished or lost interest. Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/. Here are some instructions on how to use it: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102 If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 , then the script should still work fine. Let us know how you get on with it. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Gary G. writes: > Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion > utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs? > Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of > MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering > thousands of parameters by hand. It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been developing such a script. A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl Somehow it seems the project simply vanished or lost interest. Here's one of the threads regarding this. http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5107 And here's the only working link I could find to any actual version of the script. http://www.koders.com/perl/fid0B8CD4AE74BB2A1553B928B4BBE8BC4C405E909B.aspx?s=none I've run a few tests and so far it doesn't seem to be producing the required output, however, I'll play around with it for a bit and see if I can get it to work. The comments mention some hard coded variables that may have to be changed to get it to work properly. Here's a few links I've found on the Cakewalk INS definitions format. http://www.raisedbar.net/InsDef.htm http://tse3.sourceforge.net/doc/InsFiles.html http://www.tweakheadz.com/how_to_build_a_cakewalk_ins_file.htm If any perl wizards out there want to take a look at the code and can point out any obvious errors or potential fixes for the script, then by all means please shout them out in here. At any rate, the perl code looks much simpler and easier to follow than the python txt2rgd.py script that seems to be the official solution these days. Once again, if there are any perl wizards out there who can help with this, the more the merrier... Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
D. Michael McIntyre writes: > > On Sunday, May 13, 2012, Gary G. wrote: > > > One thing I've already noticed is that... the txt2rgd.py script doesn't seem > > to call in any archivers... I'm sort of wondering if it even works as > > intended to begin with. > > Yes, Rosegarden can read these files whether they're compressed or not. > Compressed is standard, and the compression format used is gzip, not rar. Thanks for the filespec info Michael. That's a big help. And a Big Thanks for all the effort you put in to keep all of us musically inclined geeks happy. :) I'll send the modified script back to you guys as soon as I'm sure it does what it's supposed to do. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
On Sunday, May 13, 2012, Gary G. wrote: > One thing I've already noticed is that... the txt2rgd.py script doesn't seem > to call in any archivers... I'm sort of wondering if it even works as > intended to begin with. Yes, Rosegarden can read these files whether they're compressed or not. Compressed is standard, and the compression format used is gzip, not rar. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Andy writes: > > btw, here's the tech spec for the Cakewalk INS Format: > > > > http://www.raisedbar.net/InsDef.htm > > Sounds like a good idea, I would do it in Perl if I was doing it, since I have > decent Perl knowledge and no Python knowledge and Perl is the perfect language > for text file manipulation, but right now I neither have the time nor the need > for a script like this (currently I don't even have the time to use Rosegarden > much. ). > > I think it would take more than an evening though, even to a seasoned script > writer. > > Good luck! > The thing is, there's an existing python script called txt2rgd.py that I can simply modify. Basically I won't even have to touch the I/O routines and simply have to change or add a few lines to the parser. With any luck I might have it working by next weekend. Barring any major snags in format. One thing I've already noticed is that RGD files are rar compressed and the txt2rgd.py script doesn't seem to call in any archivers, so I'm sort of wondering if it even works as intended to begin with. Anyway, lots of research ahead of me, so I'll post it up here once I have something working :) Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Gary G. wrote: > > So the more I look at this problem, the easier path seems to be simply > downloading a tutorial on python, spend a week learning the language, > and writing the utility myself. > > Figure with having to learn the API and system calls and researching > the file formats (I know sweet-f***-all about XML documents) I should > have something up and running within a week or two and fully debugged > and free to release under GNU license within a month at the outside. > > At least it'll be useful to everyone else who struggles along sequencing > $2000 synths with basic General MIDI patches. > > For a seasoned python or perl script writer this would be an evening's > work at most, but like I said, I haven't coded in 25 years, so if no one > else is willing to do it I guess I'll start printing up the necessary > research material and kludge something together when I have the time. > > Even with all that, it will STILL be easier than reformatting the crap > in a spreadsheet and make RGD creation in the future a pleasure rather > than having one's wisdom teeth extracted anally like it is today. :D > > Wish me luck and if anyone with more "skilz" than I gotz wants to take > this off my hands by all means feel free. I won't be insulted. :D > > btw, here's the tech spec for the Cakewalk INS Format: > > http://www.raisedbar.net/InsDef.htm Sounds like a good idea, I would do it in Perl if I was doing it, since I have decent Perl knowledge and no Python knowledge and Perl is the perfect language for text file manipulation, but right now I neither have the time nor the need for a script like this (currently I don't even have the time to use Rosegarden much. :-( ). I think it would take more than an evening though, even to a seasoned script writer. Good luck! -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Gary G. writes: > > david writes: > > > > > On 05/12/2012 11:56 AM, david wrote: > > > On 05/12/2012 11:04 AM, Gary G. wrote: > > >> Perhaps this would be better targeted to the developers' list but here's > > >> another thought on RGD files. > > >> > > >> Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion > > >> utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs? Or perhaps > > >> even one of the Rosegarden Developers could write an import utility to > > >> accomplish the same thing directly within the Rosegarden application > > >> itself? ...snip... > > >> Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of > > >> MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering > > >> thousands of parameters by hand. Honestly I'd think a simple perl or > > >> python script would be all that's necessary to make Rosegarden a > > >> thousand times more useful than it is even now. > > > > > > You mean something like the script mentioned here? > > > > > > http://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/documents/rgd-HOWTO.shtml ...snip... > I downloaded and ran txt2rgd.py shortly after I posted and tried it out > on a Cakewalk INS file that specifically targets my Korg TR. It barfed > out over 2400 errors!!! > > Now if I have to go in and reformat 2400 lines in order to create a viable > text file for the conversion that's really not going to save me a lot of > grunt work. And that's only for ONE synth! > > Now seriously, I'm a user, not a programmer nor a spreadsheet wizard. I > haven't touched a line of code since college over 25 years ago. > > Seeing as Cakewalk/Sonar INS files are ubiquitous, unchanged for over two > decades and as close as a standard as anyone can get to set out instrument > definitions, it strikes me as a long overdue and almost trivial > afterthought for any seasoned script programmer to write a 100 line or so > conversion utility. ...snip... > In fact, if nobody steps up to the plate on this and offers to write it, I > may just end up having to do it myself anyway. ...snip... So the more I look at this problem, the easier path seems to be simply downloading a tutorial on python, spend a week learning the language, and writing the utility myself. Figure with having to learn the API and system calls and researching the file formats (I know sweet-f***-all about XML documents) I should have something up and running within a week or two and fully debugged and free to release under GNU license within a month at the outside. At least it'll be useful to everyone else who struggles along sequencing $2000 synths with basic General MIDI patches. For a seasoned python or perl script writer this would be an evening's work at most, but like I said, I haven't coded in 25 years, so if no one else is willing to do it I guess I'll start printing up the necessary research material and kludge something together when I have the time. Even with all that, it will STILL be easier than reformatting the crap in a spreadsheet and make RGD creation in the future a pleasure rather than having one's wisdom teeth extracted anally like it is today. :D Wish me luck and if anyone with more "skilz" than I gotz wants to take this off my hands by all means feel free. I won't be insulted. :D btw, here's the tech spec for the Cakewalk INS Format: http://www.raisedbar.net/InsDef.htm Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
david writes: > > On 05/12/2012 11:56 AM, david wrote: > > On 05/12/2012 11:04 AM, Gary G. wrote: > >> Perhaps this would be better targeted to the developers' list but here's > >> another thought on RGD files. > >> > >> Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion > >> utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs? Or perhaps > >> even one of the Rosegarden Developers could write an import utility to > >> accomplish the same thing directly within the Rosegarden application > >> itself? > >> > >> While IANAL and have no idea if the INS format is proprietary or not, > >> FOSS is full of reverse engineered document viewers and converters which > >> seem to coexist beautifully with their non free counterparts. > >> > >> Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of > >> MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering > >> thousands of parameters by hand. Honestly I'd think a simple perl or > >> python script would be all that's necessary to make Rosegarden a > >> thousand times more useful than it is even now. > > > > You mean something like the script mentioned here? > > > > http://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/documents/rgd-HOWTO.shtml > > Oh, sorry, that's not the script, it's a how to that mentions a script > that converts properly-formatting plain text or CVS files into RGD. > I downloaded and ran txt2rgd.py shortly after I posted and tried it out on a Cakewalk INS file that specifically targets my Korg TR. It barfed out over 2400 errors!!! Now if I have to go in and reformat 2400 lines in order to create a viable text file for the conversion that's really not going to save me a lot of grunt work. And that's only for ONE synth! Now seriously, I'm a user, not a programmer nor a spreadsheet wizard. I haven't touched a line of code since college over 25 years ago. Seeing as Cakewalk/Sonar INS files are ubiquitous, unchanged for over two decades and as close as a standard as anyone can get to set out instrument definitions, it strikes me as a long overdue and almost trivial afterthought for any seasoned script programmer to write a 100 line or so conversion utility. Hell, the last code I wrote was in Turbo Pascal and even I could kludge together something that could do the job if I had all the parameters handy. In fact, if nobody steps up to the plate on this and offers to write it, I may just end up having to do it myself anyway. Lord knows it's a hell of a lot easier than transcribing the Bible in Calligraphy, which is what the conventional wisdom seems to dictate is the only way to create a viable RGD file. Just something to ponder... Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
On 05/12/2012 11:56 AM, david wrote: > On 05/12/2012 11:04 AM, Gary G. wrote: >> Perhaps this would be better targeted to the developers' list but here's >> another thought on RGD files. >> >> Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion >> utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs? Or perhaps >> even one of the Rosegarden Developers could write an import utility to >> accomplish the same thing directly within the Rosegarden application >> itself? >> >> While IANAL and have no idea if the INS format is proprietary or not, >> FOSS is full of reverse engineered document viewers and converters which >> seem to coexist beautifully with their non free counterparts. >> >> Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of >> MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering >> thousands of parameters by hand. Honestly I'd think a simple perl or >> python script would be all that's necessary to make Rosegarden a >> thousand times more useful than it is even now. > > You mean something like the script mentioned here? > > http://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/documents/rgd-HOWTO.shtml Oh, sorry, that's not the script, it's a how to that mentions a script that converts properly-formatting plain text or CVS files into RGD. -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
On 05/12/2012 11:04 AM, Gary G. wrote: > Perhaps this would be better targeted to the developers' list but here's > another thought on RGD files. > > Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion > utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs? Or perhaps > even one of the Rosegarden Developers could write an import utility to > accomplish the same thing directly within the Rosegarden application > itself? > > While IANAL and have no idea if the INS format is proprietary or not, > FOSS is full of reverse engineered document viewers and converters which > seem to coexist beautifully with their non free counterparts. > > Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of > MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering > thousands of parameters by hand. Honestly I'd think a simple perl or > python script would be all that's necessary to make Rosegarden a > thousand times more useful than it is even now. You mean something like the script mentioned here? http://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/documents/rgd-HOWTO.shtml -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
